What does /g/ think?
Compared to a GTX 970 (3.5 lel), would it be a major upgrade?
What about the DX12 results, would it still suck vs Polaris?
It's faster than TITAN X/980 Ti so yeah, it's a pretty major upgrade over 970 but have to see the reviews first.
>>54431784
The show didn't really say anything about DX12 if I recall.
I'd say just wait for the benchmarks come in. You're already waiting a month for it, might as well give it a few weeks after that.
>>54431864
too low goym for that m8 r8 8/8
but still, should be big?
btw, what was that about it being faster than a TITAN X, 'cause some retard youtubers keep using it for either 1070 or 1080, which one was it truly for?
>>54431898
Jen-Hsun said it was faster than TITAN X at the launch event
>>54431898
>too low goym for that m8 r8 8/8
don't ever quote me again you brain-dead imbecilic redditor
>>54431914
Wot the fok did ye just say 2 me m8? i dropped out of newcastle primary skool im the sickest bloke ull ever meet & ive nicked ova 300 chocolate globbernaughts frum tha corner shop. im trained in street fitin' & im the strongest foker in tha entire newcastle gym. yer nothin to me but a cheeky lil bellend w/ a fit mum & fakebling. ill waste u and smash a fokin bottle oer yer head bruv, i swer 2 christ. ya think u can fokin run ya gabber at me whilst sittin on yer arse behind a lil screen? think again wanka. im callin me homeboys rite now preparin for a proper scrap. A roomble thatll make ur nan sore jus hearin about it. yer a waste bruv. me crew be all over tha place & ill beat ya to a proper fokin pulp with me fists wanka. if i aint satisfied w/ that ill borrow me m8s cricket paddle & see if that gets u the fok out o' newcastle ya daft kunt. if ye had seen this bloody fokin mess commin ye might a' kept ya gabber from runnin. but it seems yea stupid lil twat, innit? ima ****e fury & ull drown in it m8. ur ina proper mess knob.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRxoWkSDhVc&t=208
Waiting for the MSI & EVGA Ti versions.
>>54431969
ty mate
>>54431976
waiting for the gigabyte g1 edition, pretty happy with the 970 edition of it :D
Not worth it, not even using gddr5x. Wait for Polaris 10 and decide as it will likely be as good if not better at a lower price point. If this is the case buying AMD is the way to go if you don't like continuous proprietary nvidia shits taken into your waiting mouth.
All things being equal performance wise, buying AMD means supporting open standards and open source Linux drivers for new cards, external Thunderbolt drivers and more
>>54432350
linux drivers/thunderbolt/amd ... but I don't need taht shit?
from what I read, AMD openly said they aren't competing with 10xx so why wait?
if waiting, I would, but just for the dx12 benchmarks
Hardware wise i don't think Async Compute is a problem anymore since they were just showing off Doom 4 running at over 100fps on a 1080, so that means DX12/Vulkan should be fine
AMD might still win in DX12 though, their drivers just seem to be better for DX12 funny enough
>>54432350
lol what a massive meme. amd are done.
who /gtx1070sli/ here?
>>54432381
When did they say that mang
>>54432791
ill pasta a based anon from the other thread:
"AMD said Polaris is mainstream, because they want to increase the market for VR (supposedly) and that a high-end product wouldn't do that.
>I don't think Nvidia is going to do anything to increase the TAM, because according to everything we've seen around Pascal, it's a high-end part. I don't know what the price is gonna be, but let's say it's as low as £500/$600 and as high as £800/$1000. That price range is not going to expand the TAM for VR. We're going on the record right now to say Polaris will expand the TAM. Full stop.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/04/amd-polaris-will-be-a-mainstream-gpu/
They didn't specifically say anything about 1070 and 1080, because those weren't announced at that time, but at this point it's essentially certain that they will not compete with the 1080 at least. 1070 maybe since that's $380 and I believe they mentioned a $300-something price point too, but we don't know. It's incredibly disappointing to me, especially since I own a 4K FreeSync monitor."
>>54432350
>open standards and open source Linux drivers
open source they said.
open standards they said.
so I got a 390.
it's been unusable for more than six months: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=91880
fuck amd. never again.
some math for those wondering fps differences between different performance percentage increase.
example if the 10X0 is X% faster than the 980ti you would get:....
10%:
60 vs 54
65 vs 58
70 vs 63
75 vs 67
80 vs 72
85 vs 76
90 vs 81
95 vs 85
100 vs 90
105 vs 94
110 vs 99
115 vs 103
120 vs 108
125 vs 112
130 vs 117
135 vs 121
140 vs 126
145 vs 130
150 vs 135
155 vs 139
160 vs 144
165 vs 148
15%:
60 vs 51
65 vs 55
70 vs 60
75 vs 64
80 vs 68
85 vs 72
90 vs 77
95 vs 81
100 vs 85
105 vs 89
110 vs 94
115 vs 98
120 vs 102
125 vs 106
130 vs 111
135 vs 115
140 vs 119
145 vs 123
150 vs 128
155 vs 132
160 vs 136
165 vs 140
20%:
60 vs 48
65 vs 52
70 vs 56
75 vs 60
80 vs 64
85 vs 68
90 vs 72
95 vs 76
100 vs 80
105 vs 84
110 vs 88
115 vs 92
120 vs 96
125 vs 100
130 vs 104
135 vs 108
140 vs 112
145 vs 116
150 vs 120
155 vs 124
160 vs 128
165 vs 132
25%:
60 vs 45
65 vs 48
70 vs 52
75 vs 56
80 vs 60
85 vs 64
90 vs 68
95 vs 71
100 vs 75
105 vs 79
110 vs 83
115 vs 86
120 vs 90
125 vs 94
130 vs 98
135 vs 101
140 vs 105
145 vs 109
150 vs 113
155 vs 116
160 vs 120
165 vs 124
>>54432831
using anything other than intel integrated gpu in linux
>>54432909
because my cpu doesn't have that.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1968975/gen-intel-930-built-graphics.html
>>54432791
>>54432823
Too bad Nvidia just exactly did that, AMD once again showing bad hindsight.
If you want VR the 1080 is the perfect card for you, and for budget the incoming 1060 is going to work too, all the VR goodies from Pascal will also be available for budget cards.
>>54432909
i915 isn't flawless either.
>>54432831
never forget
the 390 is trash
>>54433056
a mate got the 380 and is pretty happy with it
then again he's kinda poor and doesn't have high expectations from his hardware :/
>>54433056
makes me sad. I really wish amd didn't suck so bad, because nvidia is a bunch of assholes.
>>54433056
>tfw AMD is so shit that you're even willing to buy into the 3.5 memevidya
>>54433056
>tfw got a 390 NITRO super cheap and it runs smooth as butter
>>54432350
>Wait for Polaris 10 and decide as it will likely be as good if not better at a lower price point
Do people really believe this?
the price point makes it worth it desu
rip AMD
>tfw 970 cuck
So like many others I have a 970 and a 1080p screen
Would it be way overkill to get a 1070 and keep my old monitor?
>>54432831
why the fuck are you even bothering with a gpu on linux?
>>54433529
in the same boat..
tho thinking about a 1080p 144Hz Gsync monitor
>>54433529
yes. Unless you sell your 970 and keep a good chunk of the price you paid.
>>54433576
I'm either thinking of going 144hz or 1440p
Still think Gsync is too pricey
>>54431784
>>54433607
there's a cheap AOC model that's getting good reviews, look it up..
yes, unknown company, but it only makes monitors and has a good rate so far
what about SLI with 970x2 or 980x2?
Is the microstutter still occurring?
goddamn
>>54433701
SLI support is trash, if you can have equal performance with a single card don't bother with SLI.
>>54433607
If the 1070 benches nearly as well as the 980Ti, I'm getting the latter on the cheap for 1080p/144Hz. So yeah, /waitfag/ here.
>>54433056
Are you trying to make it a meme? You posted screenshot of someone else`s speccy and that`s it. You think you fooling anyone, kid? Stop spamming this shit, no one is going to believe you.
>>54433169
Pascal is just Maxwell + FP64.
Polaris is a new architecture and in 14nm, which is smaller than the 16nm in Pascal.
>>54433954
>implying Pascal isn't a new architecture
Anon pls
>>54433793
He posted a speccy with the time and date specifically for someone calling him a bullshitter in the original thread. I was following the whole thing.
>>54433793
>>54433954
You have been awarded 2 AMD good boy points!
kys fucking retards.
>>54434031
I was in that thread, doesn't matter - AMD is dead again this year anyway.
>>54433982
You can change date in paint, proves nothing. Shoulda make screenshot or photo with 4chan in the background. Also his taskbar had shitload of crappy apps in it. He could actually get some stuttering in games though but only because his OS is bloated with shit and ruined.
>>54434070
Why do you care so much if AMD is dead or not? Just buy your shitvidia card and shut your mouth.
>>54431784
Its a good holdover card till the 1080ti or Vega comes out.
Im considering selling my 980ti, buying the 1070 with no drop in performance and then selling the 1070 to get the true flagship.
Theoretically I could do this and end up spending very little for consistent upgrades.
>>54434154
If you're going to upgrade, fucking upgrade
No sense in going to all that effort to move sideways with very little gain. A 980ti will still be plenty powerful for years to come
When will the Maxwell cards drop price.
>nvidia keeps price tag on Titan X
>>54434178
Its as much about upgrading as it is about saving money.
If i wait too long, the 980ti will drop most its value.
>>54431898
Jen-Hsun said that both the 1070 and 1080 are faster than the Titan X, he also said that 1080 was faster than 980 SLI which itself is faster than Titan X by a decent amount.
>>54432718
>meme
>who sli
>people actually want AMD to go bankrupt so nvidia and intel are the only people making computer shit anymore
enjoy your 2000 dollar cpus and GPUs that underperform when that happens.
>>54434240
>TITAN X
Its a fucking meme. If Jen-Hsun said that 1080 is 20% faster than 980Ti no one would give a shit. BUT ITS FASTER THAN TITAN! TITAN IS MOST POWERFULL VIDEOCARD EVAR.
Seems like a good time to ask, what vender makes the best version of cards? Planning to buy a 1070 this summer if it's as good as I hope it is.
I have an MSI right now, not sure if I should stick with them or get something else.
>>54434266
true dat mayne, most likely will happen
but amd really sucks tho
>>54434266
Those are mostly shitposters and retards from /v/. Do not pay attention to them.
anyone made the joke of AMD's fuck ups due to female CEO?
>>54434266
I want AMD to do well because competition, but they keep fucking up
>>54434286
plenty happy with my Gigabyte G1 Edition 970, coool cooling, clocked as fuck straight out of the box..
people with the MSI version returned their cards the first week.
hearing EVGA is beast as well but I hate the looks of their cards/coolers
>>54431944
Check'd 'n kek'd
>>54434302
>female
Have you seen 'her'?
>>54434266
I really hope Zen is a good competitor to Skylake/Kaby Lake, and pray to God that Polaris/Vega just murder's Pascal, there needs to be competition.
>>54434317
ty bruv much love based anon
>tfw I didn't wait for Pascal
Just end my life fampai
>>54434332
Holy fuck she looks like a friend of mine.
>>54434344
Why?
>>54434355
I was too eager to buy my PC so I bought a 390 back in january.
Should have waited for what I can see.
>>54434407
You don`t miss much in terms of performance, m8. 390 is a great card.
>>54434437
>shit drivers
>insane power consumption
>stupidly high temps
>"great card"
>>54434437
I know, I'm quite happy with it, but I'm fairly sure its price is going to drop significantly.
>>54434457
Just get a trip so i can filter you already.
>>54433970
It's not. And that's why Huang didn't even mention any new feature in the Pascal architecture during the presentation.
Because truth is, Pascal is merely a Maxwell die shrink. Just like Ivy Bridge or Broadwell.
>>54434497
Source
>>54431866
They said its going to have real async instead of the predicted emulated one what the Maxwell has
Honestly Im more excited for the 1060 series. If that shit reaches the 980 performance, Im going to be happy
>>54434497
So what makes you think Polaris won't just be a die shrink of Fury?
>>54434535
i have to get ride of my 970 before they announce 1060 otherwise price will drop SOO MUCH if you are right xD
>>54434580
Not him but...
Well, its a completly different architecture since its uses GDDR5(x?)
>>54434457
Here we go again
>>shit drivers
Nvidia has been making shitty drivers all year
>>insane power consumption
300w is not insane
>>stupidly high temps
A few degrees higher than the 970
>>54434605
The x60 series usually released a half year after high end
Is there going to be a 1060? Or anything Pascal for ~$250 or less in the next couple months? Sorry, I've been really out of the loop.
>>54434643
Eventually, but not for a while
>>54434643
nothing official announced yet bruv
here's a shitty chart to give you a guesstimate on the level of performance boost one would expect if "Y" is "%" increase over "X."
so if the memewell 980 ti gets 75 fps in the division then the 1070 would get 86ish if it was 10% faster.
>>54434471
since the 390 and 970 are similar in performance, and the 980 ti was on average ~~~50%~~~ faster than the 970, then the 1080 would be about 70% faster. the 1070 would be about ~~60%~~ faster if it's 10% faster than the 980 ti that many are claiming (nvidia has only stated the performance level of the 1080, not the 1070 yet).
lets say you get 60 fps in the witcher 3 then the 1070 would get ~~96 fps~~ while the 1080 would get ~~102 fps~~ a difference of 36 - 42 fps.
>>54434580
It isn't just a simple die shrink. It's loaded with some new functionality on-die to help it through heavy tessellation workloads, traditionally the achilles heel of AMD GPUs versus Nvidia.
>>54434638
>300w is not insane
It really isn't by enthusiast standards but these newfags probably weren't even around in the 7990/Thermi days.
>>54434680
> then the 1070 would get 86ish if it was 10% faster
>86ish
82ish*
Im new to gaymen, whats the founders edition? Does it make sense to spend extra for a founder's card or should I just get a regular edition?
>mfw I was always AMD cuz muh Perfomance/$
>This blows AMD out of the water
Im sorry AMD, I appricated the effor.... But I waited too long...
>tfw this will prob kill AMD and Nvidia will have no competition... There for no need for effort of innovation
>>54434723
Most likely a better binned chip. We don't know yet
>>54434723
can clock more, custom plate too
>>54434664
So if I'm looking for something in that range Polaris will probably be the better option? I know I could buy a just outdated card for cheaper now, but the better power efficiency and long driver support from the day I buy it make buying mid range cards from the latest generation more attractive to me.
>>54434733
A little boost over previous flagship and a little price reduction will kill AMD? Okey buddy. Bye-bye.
>>54434751
With the Pascal launch we'll probably hear from AMD sooner rather than later, so yeah keep an eye out
>>54434734
He won't even know what that means.
>>54434733
Let's wait until we see what these actually sell for when they hit the shelves. Those currytech shipping manifest rumor mills postulated that Pascal cards will be in such limited supply at first that they might as well be vaporware throughout the summer of 2016 and when a few do turn up, the Neweggs of the world may jack the prices up through the roof. Supply and demand and all that. If Polaris 10 is actually on shelves at $300 delivering "near" 980ti performance while the 1070 and 1080 are just out of stock everywhere, AMD may sell a shitload of them.
I'm being very optimistic about the dates here, but let's say it will take 2 weeks for nonreference cards to show up - how long would it take for them to reach the shithole Philippines?
>>54434763
>The 1080 is fasted than a 980 SLI.
>The 970 faster as a titan X
>AMD 80% new cards are usually rebrands
Okkay buddy bye
>>54434809
Such a great time to be alive.
If all of these turn out to be true tho :D
>>54434079
Dude it was real. Stop defending fucking amd like they're your child. It wasn't edited or anything. I still have the original screenshot of his specs and I'll post it again if you're so desperate to check if it's a fake or not.
Also the email that was emailing him about his game not being redeemable is also real because I've redeemed games via amd and that email was the same one.
>>54434809
What the fuck were you trying to say? That made no sense.
>>54434826
I mean. If I was selling cars, I would not lie about "Its 2x thr speed of the previous generation"
But I get you. I mean even for me its really hard to believe that Nvidia gonna release a $370 better-than-titanx card, but well see. I mean, If you see the DX12 benchmarks the 390x and the Curries are on the same level usually
>>54434830
>AMD SUCKS
>I HATE AMD
>I WANT AMD TO DIE ALREADY
>DO NOT BUY AMD
I don't even need to defend a company from blatant shitposting.
>It wasn't edited or anything
Believe whatever you want son.
>>54434843
The 1070 faster than the TitanX, sorry my bad. Its like new years eve and you need to remember that its 2016
>>54434809
How the things you listed are relevant to what i said? Its already known that 1080 is around 20% faster than 980Ti. That`s fucking nothing. Price drop is good but who knows how much it will cost in real life like >>54434785 said.
>>54434873
Yeah I figured that much but the part about AMD's new cards being rebrands isn't going to happen. They only have 2 new cards coming out and they aren't rebrands. The one worth mentioning will compete with the 1070.
i'll wait for the 1060ti and poolaris before deciding whether i should upgrade or not, i already have the 3.5 meme card so it needs to be substantial and affordable
>>54434902
How is that already known? So far all the info we got is the Nvidia presentation.
>>54434871
Then why do you care? He has the right to tell everyone his experience. If this was some nvidia kiddy you'd be agreeing with him 100% and calling nvidia shit. Yet because it's someone calling amd shit it's not real and just some guy shitposting and making fake screenshots according to you.
These fucking double standards.
>>54434952
Your`e probably that guy itself.
> If this was some nvidia kiddy you'd be agreeing with him 100% and calling nvidia shit
Nice projection, cuck.
>>54435012
Why are you so buttblasted? Go and take that buyers remorse out on r/AMD.
Dumb ayymdrone can't even accept the hard truth from one of his own.
I`m so fucking tired of my GTX970. It sucks dicks massively. My friend has 390 and every game ive seen him playing runs like butter. Are they already gimping my card??? Or is it because nvidia sucks in DX12? Never again i will buy AyyNvidia card. Polaris cant come soon enough.
>>54435085
Low quality shitposting, kiddo. Stay mad or step up your game.
>>54435114
>being this mad
KEK
>>54433056
>>54433056
>>54433056
>>54433056
>>54433056
>>54433056
>>54435090
Get a 1070, Polaris is shaping up to be a massive disappointment. Again.
>>54435148
This
>>>/toy/
>>>/underage/
>>54435148
No. I`v had enough. FUCK NVIDIA. They still dont have async shaders in fucking 2016!
>>54435090
Lol. Same.
>>54434580
Because Raja Koduri has already explained all the changes.
>>54435012
>>54435187
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you can't even samefag properly. atleast get your fucking apostrophe the right way round.
>>54434861
they legally can claim the 1070 is faster than a stock 980 ti / titan x (stock for stock it was at most 5% difference between the two) if its 1% faster.
lets go off of what we do know from what nvidia has stated.
>1080 is 20 - 25% faster than a 980 ti
>possibly 30% in certain instances like 4k due to the faster memory of gddr5x 10gbps vs the 7gbps of gddr5 and 8gb of jew ram instead of 6gb
lets go with the middle here.
if the 1080 is 25% faster than a 980 ti, and the 1070 is faster than a 980 ti, and going off historically that the "70" series card, let it be the 6800gt vs 6800 ultra from 2004 or the 970 vs the 980 of 2014, has always been around 10 - 20% slower than the "80" series card. if the 1070 is 10% slower than the 1080, then that would place the 1070 around 15% faster than the 980 ti. if its 15% slower than the 1080, 10% faster. if its 20% slower then 5% faster.
it all comes down where nvidia wants to place the 1070 at.
last two generations there was about a 20% gap between the "70" and the "80." 780 vs 780 ti and 970 vs the 980. the 600 series was the last where the gap was small with an average of 10% with the 670 vs 680.
>>54431784
I'm also thinking about upgrading from a 970
The price value is so good that I completely forget I have zero need to upgrade
>>54435225
You should give him a lesson ;)
Well I guess titan x should be dropping in price soon so I can 4 way sli bitches ;)
Integrated GPU user here. Should i wait for Polaris or jump onto 970 meme?
>>54435300
>3.5 meme
>good at anything
Wait for polaris for sure.
>>54435300
Wait for Polaris. 1070 could turn out to be just another 970.
At least Polaris is bringing new things to the table and it will be more power efficient anyway.
I'm interested in the price/perf/watt on the 1060 compared to Polaris.
>>54435300
If you want the best performance/price ratio then wait for Polaris.
>>54431784
I'm looking forward to picking up a 980 on the cheap soon.
1070 for WQHD or 1080 to futureproof for a while?
970 runs newest games like a pig at 1440p
>>54436766
1070 should be adequate for a while if Nvidia's projections are remotely true.
>>54435223
when's the release date for polaris?? Why the fuck do they release after NVIDIA
>>54437511
AMD is dragging their ass with new releases.
Hopefully Nvidia lit a fire under them and we'll hear from them sooner rather than later
>>54437511
"Probably Computex" and they've always been terrible at marketing.
>>54437569
I don't get why they don't just set a firm date, even if it's just a paper launch. You'd think this would help with building hype. Fucking AMD.
>>54431784
When's the 1060 coming out?
I just want a card that will play Battlefield 1 maxed out at 1080p and 60fps.
>>54437885
AMD has built hype over and over again and delivered disappointment each time
>>54434266
it's a fucking worthless curry company that cannot for the LITERAL life of it get it's shit together, nothing of value was lost
In these threads
>Predictions
>Hypothesis
>Hyperbole
>Memes
>Name calling and disck waving
Just wait for the cards to get benchmarked as most of these threads are just plucking at straws.
>>54438073
You're no fun
>>54438041
This. People say AMD should stay around to give Nvidia and Intel competition, but there is no competition. It's the illusion of competition. The duopoly is more dangerous because nobody bats an eye, as they say.
Let AMD fold and the free market run its course. It'll be better for us in the long run. We won't get fucked too hard in the mean time, since antitrust watchdogs will keep an eye on Intel/Nvidia.
>Speculating before confirmed legit reviews
/g/, every fucking time you're talking about figures MONTHS before release. Settle your expectations the fuck down.
There's no games on PC worth using it on. Sad truth. Multiplats have been consistently rubbish since 2008. Unless people only buy these for e cred.
>>54438122
>new games are bad meme
>After the 3.5 fiasco the people still fell for the NVIDIA meme.
Ayyyyyyy
>>54435148
>Polaris is shaping up to be a massive disappointment
says who???
>>54438266
>Fury X is going to be an overclocker's dream
>Fury X is going to destroy Nvidia with HBM and a new chip
>Rebrands of rebrands for all the rest of their lineup
Are amd holding a reveal event
If so when is it
>>54438135
Most of them aren't terribly well optimized and devs are forced to focus on platform optimization before desktops.
The contrary is very far and few between, remember the controversy surrounding that one game where devs said 'only PC gets 60+ FPS'.
>>54437955
Judging by the already leaked benchmarks, definitely before Battlefield releases.
PS4 Neo GPU likely being Polaris makes me worried a 1080 won't be enough for multiplats after you take the low level api and console specific optimizations into consideration.
ITT
>AMD no drivers meme
>comparing radeonsi to nvidias closed-source driver, not nouveau
in my box (upgraded from 560ti to 390 half a year ago)
>radeonsi is shit, but fglrx runs flawless (incompatible with GNOME, but who gives a shit)
>windows radeon driver improves performance with every release, nvidia one just kept adding bugs
in a friends box
>latest nvidia driver grinds to a halt with more than one game running, only solution is to downgrade
>>54438484
>low level api
aka DX12
>>54432905
but this method only applies if the fps is a constant, which it won't be
>>54438537
A huge improvement but it's no console sdk.
>>54438484
>he's back for more
Go back to bed.
does it finally get close to to the OpenCL performance of AMD cards from 2013?
>>54431784
>Maxwell 16nm
It will still be useless in DX12
Just get a 1080 or a 490
>>54431784
Hyperthetically if the 1070 beats the 490x and its only $50 more i am going to get it
How long will it take for aftermarket versions?
>>54438682
Most likely had launch
900 series had exclusive third party cards before the stock coolers were made available
>>54438698
why do people want stock coolers besides SLI?
GDDR5X should see minimum FPS performance penalties in lower resolutions. To double the clock they also doubled the latencies.
Processing response times rely heavily on data access times, and it has been shown that for instance 1333mhz ddr3 at 7ns timings has a better minimum fps across the board than 1866 at 10ns.
The flipside is that higher bandwidth ram is in fact better for maximum fps.
This is one true instance where a PC part can be equated to a car part:
A vehicles exhaust/airflow system tuned for back pressue (analogous to lower clock, but faster cycle response ram) can make better low end power, but tuned for less restrictive flow (analogous to higher clock, but slower response ram) can make more top end power.
>>54438778
Water blocks, cheaper price
>>54431969
I hope those guys yelling shit out like it's a sporting event are paid to do it for their sake
>>54438813
Yeah how embarrassing that must be for them.
>>54438796
why dont cards just ship with a waterblock option?
>>54438784
so GDDR5X is crap in say 1080p ?
>>54438840
>why dont cards just ship with a waterblock option?
Cost of manufacturing
Water loop components are expensive
>>54431912
he said it beat 980s in sli too. i dont buy that.
>>54438878
probably would, on a game that has no SLI drivers :D
>>54438851
>take chunk of aluminum
>mill it out to form a waterblock
>bundle with card for 50$ more
Some of the coolers nowadays are pretty pricey... A ton of copper, vapour chambers, fans, fancy shrouds....
>>54438926
>implying the time used to mill that chunk of aluminum into a waterblock isn't worth $50
Try to get a small machine shop to mill you that waterblock for less than a hunnid, I dare you.
>>54438840
>so GDDR5X is crap in, say, 1080p?
Before we get ahead of ourselves let's remember that these new cards, new chips, on this new process node are going to be considerably more capable than everything before.
In absolute terms all of these new cards will outperform on every metric, in every game, compared to the cards they are replacing (in price bracket)
What I'm pointing out is that there are drawbacks to certain things.
If there were a similar Maxwell card to the 1080 (2560 shader cores, and for simplicity sake assume the 1080 and this similar maxwell both have the same clock speed) it's probable that the 1080 would have lower frames per second than this equivalent card on low resolutions, sometimes in cases where the program is CPU bound, and sometimes in cases where the programming is not optimal and causes a lot of unnecessary data shuffling from the cores to RAM and back.
The RAM and GPU simply has to wait longer on the 1080 to talk back and forth than on the theoretical card, even though the memory speed/bandwidth would technically be higher on the 1080.
The 1080 would be able to transfer more data internally per frame, per batch, per what ever processing, while the theoretical card though not able to transfer as much would not have to wait as long.
In the 1080's case this means that when there is a lot of data which needs to move around and is an advantage when there is a lot of work to be done (maximum FPS when not CPU bound i.e. higher res or heavy assets)
In the theoretical card's case this means that when processing clusters hit a stall and need to get data from VRAM instead of l2$, and is an advantage in response time (minimum FPS)
>>54439302
Sorry,
>probable that the 1080 would have lower frames per second than this equivalent card
lower MINIMUM frames per second
So... Would a i5 4460 pair well with the 1070?
>>54434332
>Taiwanese born
Confirmed for ladyboy, xir
>>54435085
Seriously, I used to be an AMD fan boy and when the FX 8130 and 7970-OC hit the shelves I got a setup, it took a year-18 months before AMD unfunded their drivers and BIOS.
NEVER AGAIN FUCK YOU AMD WORST $600 COMBO EVER.
Bought a used i5-6400 setup last week, CPU outperforms my old AMD shitbox, and it's only 4-core 2.7GHz.
Has an old as duck R9 280 in it and scores meh on benches at 1080p, games meh at 1080p, but better than nothing.
Whole thing was $500, getting a GTX 1080 card after MSI makes a non-reference edition.
Every single one of my friends who's made an nVidia (nJewdia) rig with Intel CPU has been essentially problem free till the next Gen cards release and their nerf'd to the dirt with drivers.
Who cares, their shot worked out the box for almost 3 years at a time
>>54437561
Hopefully after they unfuck their drivers before releasing for once
>>54433954
by the way, the numbers "16nm" and "14nm" when it comes to semiconductor business don't actually relate directly to feature size anymore. They're just names for the technology nodes, and different companies can have different naming schemes. In this case, nvidia's 16nm process and amd's 14nm process are probably on effectively identical scales.
>>54433104
I have 380 as well and it's great for what we paid.
>>54439915
> we paid
You mean your mom paid most of it and you spent 10$ grandma gave you for your birthday.
>still no freesync support
those greedy goblins won't get my money
How long before a 1080ti is released? How much more will it cost and how much more performance?
I know it's all speculation but would appreciate input. Hopefully these cards aren't just more powerful when applied to VR.
>>54433104
>>54439915
>R9 380
best $420 NZD i ever spent whould do it again /10
R9 380 4GB here no really problems outside farcry 4 and then then the bug is fixed now.
thinking of 1080p freesync 1ms since i've seen 3 in secondhand shops
>>54440131
>american
no disrespect but not everyone lives in your country go back and do some economy classed please.
>>54431969
maximum cringe
the paid shills screaming aren't helping
>>54433056
I got a 390 in January (or end of Dec, don't really remember) and the thing is a beast. OC'd it a bit, running every game I throw at it really smoothly (of course not on very highest settings, but turn down all placebo and this card is awesome).
So because one anecdote shows it did not work for someone every 390 is automatically shit?
I hope you are not allowed to vote. Fucking 12yearolds
>>54439559
change a 7970- oc with a 280 (7950)....
>54438544
What are average frames per second for 400$, Alex
>>54432909
Too bad HDMI output is broken for skylake until 4.6
Can't wait to buy a 1050/1060 since it will probably be the only one not bottlenecked by my fx 6300 @ 4.3Ghz. Or maybe an R9 480.
>>54434926
for all you know there might not even be a TI version of the 1060
>>54442578
Sold the AMD box a year ago, just bought a used PC a week ago
>>54442578
I went to console for awhile while I mentally recovered
