This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
http://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ
Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
Previous thread:
>>54326436
Post the dream grails. We'll never own one, but that doesn't stop us from dreaming.
I might be onto a Seiko Bell-Matic.
It has a mechanical alarm function.
What can you guys can tell me about this movement? Is it reliable? Is it worth it?
>>54358592
Buy a fake. Pic related.
My Midas vintage french watch, it's 34 mm so it fits on my tiny bitch wrists.
>>54358698
As per usual with older Seikos, as long as it isn't from the Phipines,India,Malasiya,Thailand and etc it should be fine.
Though the 4006 movement is among the most complex vintage Seiko's you could find, it would take a very skilled watchmaker a lot of time to properly service the movement if it needs one.
Ideally if you can score it sub~200$ shipped it's a good deal.
>>54358772
The seller is selling it together with another 4 vintage watches for 250€.
I'm trying to get it for 60€ alone.
>>54358764
NOS from the 1960's that works like a charm (for now). 17 jewels french ETA clone I think.
I'm getting a black leather band for it so I can wear it as a dress watch.
>>54358741
God that's ugly.
Shitty grail.
>>54358791
derp
>>54358786
Probably a good deal, any other older Seikos watches in that pile? Or anything else interesting?
>>54358764
>>54358791
>>54358805
Fellow Midas brother.
Mine is a hell of a lot older, plus your's might be a Jeambrun movement based instead of an older Swiss Ebuche clone.
>>54358694
>>54358844
Not really, the Bell-Matic is the only one interesting, and it seems to be in exceptional state, considering its age. Check the picture in the forst comment.
>>54358741
They are beautiful aren't they?
>>54358694
>>54358844
I saw your watch and decided to buy one myself since they were cheap and I needed a small classic.
I have to rip mine open to look at the giblets before I know for sure.
>>54358741
>>54358885
>>54358863
Fair enough, can't argue with that price.
Shame it's the one with integrated bracelet. You're gonna have to get T-bars and cutoff straps to fit for it.
>>54358916
I still haven't gotten to properly regulating mine, last time i checked it was running well but way out of adjustment.
Likely gonna get myself some NOS old Canadian leather strap for it.
>>54358962
The movements are almost identical.
>>54358694
It has to be a Lange.
>>54358916
That's a nice dial colour.
>>54359000
There is some similarity, but yours is based on the FE 233 movement family.
Mine might be as well, but i haven't found any clues.
>>54358694
I don't even know how much they cost, but theres only one dealer in the US.
>>54358694
This and the snow frake.
>implying people in /wt/ know a stylish watch
Now this, is what I call style :^)
>>54359498
>>54359498
>>54359549
How does the Swiss industry allow Invicta to exist?
>>54358741
>>54358885
>>54359498
>>54359549
At this point am just wondering what do the people look like who wear these watches? I imagine them to be very confused looking creatures.
>>54359629
I'm guessing they're not white.
>>54359695
>eastern
You mean East-Asia, right? Because here in East-Europe youths wear plastic Casios, G-Shocks/G-Shock-style chinkshit or 50mm PVD black chink disasters.
Watches and drinks boys.
Post'em.
Landeron 248.
>>54360300
Yours or just posting?
Is it odd to wear a watch and a fitness tracker on at the same time? And if so what about wearing them on different wrists? I worry about purchasing one since I still want to wear my mechanical watch but I don't want to look like a fucking idiot with a fitness tracker too.
>>54360402
I'd probably wear them on different wrists.
>>54360375
>>54360475
Neat.
Is regulated and properly running?
Luminox Recon Pointman 8821.KM
>>54360475
Man I'm awesome.
>>54360533
It is, but the power reserve is total shit because the mainspring is broken somewhere.
I'll have to take it to someone for repairs/servicing.
And the crown is not original. Carefully hidden by the paper though.
>>54360555
Nah, you're cancer.
>>54360562
Finding an original crown would be impossible, I'd get a decently fitting goldplated replacement.
Mainsprings specifically for them are pretty cheap, like 15euros a pop.
>>54360648
>literally being angry at how awesome I am
My daily driver.
My dream is a Omega speed master chronograph.
>>54360846
I'm sorry.
>>54360747
Nah m8 you're the cancer of /wt/.
>>54360846
>tag huehue
>two tone
Absolutely haram.
>>54360747
>literally being angry
That's not how language works. Stick to shitposting, at least you can't mess that up
>>54360846
Thats a nice watch anon, are you happy with it?
Well /wt/, what are you going to do now that Omega finally ruined the Planet Ocean too?
>>54361203
>Dat misaligned bezel
>>54361231
Here's the old one for comparison. The biggest sin imo was changing the font for the hour numerals.
>>54361231
I wish that was the only thing wrong with it.
>>54361295
It doesn't look very different.
>>54361356
>hour numeral font
>inner circle on the bezel is now dashed to mark seconds
>that horrible orange rubber 15min insert on the bezel
>seconds markings on the dial are now connected by a concentric line
>[ZrO2] (who the fuck cares)
>depth rating is now colored
The are the ones I could notice right away.
>>54361295
Looks aside, it still has the regular issue with the timebomb co-axial movement.
>>54361450
Yeah, very small details. Certainly not enough to scream "ruined".
>>54361450
I'd definitely want to see them side-by-side and not a pre-rendered closeup. I bet even you wouldn't even what the big deal is
>>54361482
No, it's definitely ruined. I think their 12-6-9 Seamaster designs have been in a slow steady decline for quite a while now.
>>54361513
The two biggest problems are the 6-9-12 font and that 15min timer. They're honestly TAG-tier.
what are you /g/entlemen wearing today?
>>54361533
>>54361533
>>54360150
Shitty camera so I'll just describe.
Brecon Gin, with bitter lemon and lime cordial, and lemonade to top it off, and wearing my Orient Marshall.
>>54361573
please take a picture anyway, I'll excuse your camera.
>>54360475
>MADE IN GERMANY
>MADE IN GERMANY
>MADE IN GERMANY
>MADE IN GERMANY
>MADE IN GERMANY
![piO7ESt[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/f7HhqUZ.jpg "piO7ESt[1].jpg")
>>54361584
>>54361649
Sweet glass
>>54361670
It's useful for measuring out.
You see the big bone next to the ass?
Top of the bottom rib is for the gin.
Top of that same bone is then cordial.
Then to the big bone near the top of the glass for lemonade.
Whats a good place to get a fake rolex?
>>54361747
AliExpress, just enter the Bagel lottery and hope for a not shit movement.
>>54361747
>fake Rolex
>>54361462
What's the problem with the co-axial? The fact than when the time arrives for a service people are going to shell kilo-bucks for it?
>>54361591
S P E I D E L
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>>54361835
Yup.
Basically, it's an almost run of the mill ETA 2892-A2 modified to house their coaxial escapement instead of a regular Swiss escapement.
It offers no real advantage over their regular escapement and can only be serviced by Jewmega at their specified servicing centers, which house the surgical-like machinery needed to put the exact amount of oil over the escapement. Too little and the movement will eat itself away, too much and it won't function properly.
Somewhat of narrowed down version of the story.
>>54361958
Just like the Springgu Duraibu.
>>54361835
The problem with co-axial that it doesn't work. It's a time bomb set to blow up the escapement if you don't send it back for a regular service/defuse to Omega, who needed to develop special tools and procedures just so service them. Plus it offers no real advantage.
To sum it up under different conditions the Swiss lever escapement tends to work rather than not. The Jewmega co-axial is the opposite, it has very tight tolerances for manufacturing, oiling, calibrating, whatnot.
>>54362013
spring drive has "improvements" over a normal escapement though.
>>54362013
Somewhat.
Grorius springu draibu does offer a unique in-house movement, the 2892 isn't in-house nor is it uncommon.
>>54362047
>>54362070
>>54362083
I was only referencing the kilo-buck service because of the exclusivity of the movement.
The Spring Drive is a marvel of technology in my opinion.
>>54362070
Maybe, but if you look at it from the quartz end it's a lot of over-complications for a trivial improvement (true smooth sweep seconds hand).
Probably the one PRACTICAL advantage of the Spring Drive is that it's a autoquartz that works, since the power generated is stored in a mainspring instead of a shitty capacitor.
Got some new straps in the mail today.
>>54362261
Desktop threads are circlejerking garbage, I don't see what the problem is. Come discuss watches with us!
>>54362314
>diarrhea in the making
>>54362317
Personally would have gone with a white strap for the Seiko.
>>54362317
Digging that 7A38,.
areonly the bezel and pushers goldplated or the entire case?
>>54362334
It's never given me the shits before, so I doubt I've cocked it up too badly after 3-4 (maybe 5) glasses of gin.
>>54362378
Only the bezel and pushers.
Still looking for either a full gold one or a silver one with a black dial.
>>54359641
>implying
dat machining
>>54358903
Fucking MGS5 making it impossible to get one.
At least the world time casio has kinda the same look
ok /g/, a springbar broke on my SARB017, and it fell off my wrist while walking in a corridor. It was about 1.3 m to the floor, and it landed face down.
It's still running fine, and hasn't gone fast or slow in the last 6 hrs. It sounds like it is rattling more than it was, but that might just be me imagining it. How fucked am I? Any thing I can do?
>>54362902
You're an idiot.
>>54363021
Get it's checked at watchamaker if you don't know better yourself, and grab an extra 20mm springbars while you're there.
>>54363071
Got spare bars, it's already back on wrist. No watchmaker nearby, anything I can listen or looks for myself? It's ticking along fine.
>>54363193
So if you look thru the caseback, what's moving when you hear the rattle? Just the weight?
>>54363021
>Not having a g shock for daily wear
You can drop that shit off a cliff and not worry
>>54363021
Man you got DIASHOCK 23 JEWELS 20 BAR
You have fucking nothing at all to worry about.
>>54359331
The rose gold one tho
>>54360150
>Imperial
>4.7%
Why is this allowed?
>>54363438
I'm not sure i follow.
>>54363458
It's piss water.
>>54363485
Arguably.
I like the local 8.8 and 9.6% craft a lot more.
>>54363458
"Imperial" is traditionally used to denote extra bold and high alcohol versions of a style of beer. It originates from English brewers making high alcohol stouts to ship to the Russian Imperial court in the 1800s.
Calling a beer an "imperial red" with 4.7% alcohol is showing total ignorance of brewing convention. It would be like a random watchmaker putting "chronometer" on the dial without testing the watches.
Basically, it's pretty embarrassing really.
So /wt/, I've finally convinced my girlfriend that Seiko is love, and she's planning to ditch her two fashion watches (one Michael Kors and another ungodly faux-chronograph from Target). It's now up to me to find a replacement, but the problem is I know absolutely nothing about women's watches.
Should I bother trying to get a specific girl watch, or should I just look for a Seiko 5 with a cutesy dial colour? Or is there anything else good in the 38mm and under range?
>>54363571
hf famalam
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Seiko-Matic-Lady-Press-Matic-Automatic-17-Jewels-2517-0211-Waterproof-Bj-1970-/291754904815?hash=item43edf28cef:g:BToAAOSwpzdWscy3
Otherwise there is are a lot of Ladies Seiko 5 variants.
>>54363571
>>54363667
Has any girl in the history of the world ever worn an SNK without being forced to do so by their watch autist boyfriends?
>>54361166
It keeps deadly time , good heft, and looks good, no matter what occasion. It was a gift, and for a starter, I like it.
>>54361547
Oh that is a sexy sweep.
>>54363596
Nice watch, but I'm probably going to avoid vintage due to the waterproofing issue. If I was to go that route, I'd just give her a 36mm Penisquartz and be done with it.
>>54363667
I like the SNK809 / SNK807, they are too small for my wrists but probably perfect for hers. Not sure if the field watch aesthetic works though.
>>54364013
Then just type ladies Seiko on ebay and pic whatever looks best.
>>54363417
>I's almost like they turned the Subaru WRX into a watch.
>Those fucking angles.
Vertigo/10
>>54363571
I bought my girlfriend pic related. I thought the dial seemed the most feminine. She likes it a lot. It's an SNKL36
>>54364436
Nice chapter ring alignment.
>>54364676
Thanks, I thought it was going to be worse.
What's a good gamer watch?
>>54364854
Any G-Shock, it's a great way to protect your virginity.
>trying to align gear train pivots when replacing the bridge
>>54364854
>>54364636
You and your gf have really bad taste.
>>54365336
Try it with soft plastic pivots into unjeweled holes.
>>54358694
My dream here. Maybe if I'm rich and famous director... For now. A pebble will do.
>>54365476
Trash. Just look at how far the date window is from the edge of the dial, it clearly has a small movement in an oversized case.
>>54365476
BR BR
>>54365476
Could have picked a more tasteful offering from them DESU.
I'd like to thank the anon for listing me that lord matic that I'm about to buy. Hit me up and I'll buy you a beer
>>54363417
>>54364088
>>54359331
These are $140,000 USD
![ldufourf02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jqCt1H7.jpg "ldufourf02[1].jpg")
>>54358694
>Post the dream grails.
It's simple:
The Simplicity by Philippe Dufour.
A bit more than ten years ago, when this watch was available, I wasn't wealthy enough to order one at the proper time. Now that has become a series long delivered, examples of it -any- are really scarce and even though are reaching impossible prices always sells in a second, often before I even notice the sale.
Last one sold for a bit shy of 200k USD, just a month ago.
>pic sadly related
>That gorgeous guilloché
>>54358805
>>54358844
Looking sharp Midas Brothers.
>>54358847
Nice but, a grail? why?
>>54358885
>>54359498
>>54364787
Ahhh, FUck!
>kill it with fire
>>54358903
Cool but, still digital nope
>>54359169
>It has to be a Lange.
My nigga
>>54359387
>MFW one of my watches is other anon's grail.
Good taste m8.
>>54360150
cheers
>>54360475
kek Yes he is.
>>54360555
A man's greatness can be measured by his enemies, Nineballs. -DP
>>54360747
Contain your cunt m8.
>>54360846
Go for the Speedy already dude!! You won't regreat it.
>>54361203
>>54361231
>>54361295
>>54361450
>>54361529
Chill dude. You can now buy the original with a better price.
>>54361547
nice
>>54363021
Seems like taking it to a watchmaker is your only option.
>>54363417
isthisbait?.jpg
>>54363859
SOLID NO
>>54365354
this
>>54365336
It's really hard. Whe I had to do it at JLC Master Class I almost cried when eveything was aligned and screws ready to be tighten except one tiny, unforgiving shaft.
>>54365476
You should dream bigger
>and better
http://www.shortlist.com/style/accessories/best-watches-on-film#gallery-1
>>54366909
no1curr
>>54366909
staph
>>54358537
fooking noobs
stop giving him (You)s fucking retards
>>54366909
lawyer do you have pics of your master clas?
>>54367527
I can't bring myself to spend $100 on a g-shock. it seems wasteful when a terrorist is 1/10 of the price
The folks in my town.
>>54368201
Barf. Even have an 'alot' in there.
>>54368201
>>54363209
Haven't taken caseback off yet. will do and have a look.
>>54358694
>>54370531
>former overseas chrono was god-tier
>new overseas is dog-tier and more expensive
>retards don't realize this
JUST
U
S
T
>>54366909
>but, a grail? why?
Why not? There are a lot of watches out there that I like but the Carrera is the one that I can't get out of my head because for me the design is flawless. It's minimal without compromising function and yet it's not boring. High-end watch brands are nice and all but they have such a high price that since I never will be a millionaire I am not even bothering to persue then so I can't call them a grail. Plus they are often dressy and I am a casual guy. I think the Carrera goes with pretty much every outfit.
>>54366342
Is that all?
>>54366589
Material?
>>54370785
Not the intended recipient, but i can understand that reasoning, i like to try and collect watches up to about $500 (second hand) but beyond that it is sometimes diminishing returns or hype and wank and you have to weigh up what you get for the money.
But hey if i had $10million i might have a 20k watch XD
It's 3 AM and I have a lab report due in like 3 hours but I can't stop looking at watches
Help
>>54371466
Here m8.
Can any of you tell me what decade this type of case back layout was used for citizen watches?
>>54371668
Show watch, plus innards.
Would be easier with the details about the movement.
>>54371668
Looks like about 1700
>>54371688
Haven't got a case back opener, but here it is, hand one only, I've had a look and the serial number only indicates what year of the decade it was made in not the actual decade, it looks exactly the same to a few models made in the 60's but they didn't use the phrase water resistant then
Any one want the dank mesh bracelet it came with?
>>54371735
>>54371668
Well, seems to be made in 68.
>>54371777
How sure are you? I was looking at an article saying that early citizens such as ones from the 60's didn't use the phrase water resistant, they used para something
Anyway, appreciate your help so much
>>54371825
I've seen a 1964 dated Citizen's with the parawater inscriptions.
Incidentally, googled what's on the caseback and seen examples like yours from the 60's. First number in the caseback was 8 so 68. Surprisingly easy famalamas.
>it's a wrist fedora thread
>>>/fa/ggots
>>54371847
Really? I googled it as well, didn't come up with much besides one other one the same where someone claims it was from the 60's. Yeah the older ones used para, mine uses the phrase water resistance on the back. Anyway, could you tell me anything about its value? It's in mint condition, even a ball park figure
>>54363571
I got my girlfriend the right one in pic related. And she loves it, and for some reason she cant stop winding it... shes fucking hooked on it...
Looked at Seikos as well before buying, but eventually I found that Orient makes some better looking women watches.
>>54371979
Whoops,not the right one, got her the left one.
>>54371902
No idea.
>>54371994
Cheers anyway bruh
>>54372021
bruh
I really want to buy this thing, any tips?
Inb4 no chance
>>54372284
go to your nearest rolex AD and buy it
>>54365384
Thanks.
>>54368201
>>54368201
wow
>>54361203
>>54361295
The PO was the only high end watch I ever wanted to buy, and what my family was planning to get me on my ( very late ) university graduation, but now I might ask for a sinn chrono or something, it's really frustrating because I live near the ocean and surf or swim year round and hate non waterproof watches
>>54368201
>>54363571
Seiko 5 watches are not very rugged in my experience. I'd just get a standard quartz watch. Cheaper and it keeps better time. :)
>>54373297
Why not ask for a Rolex Submariner, a Sinn diver or the (not yet absolutely ruined as of 2016) Omega Seamaster Professional.
>>54364787
Looks good anon.
>>54374284
I actually don't mind the submariner, but the sea of homages and fakes kind of kill it for me
Not too interested in the sinn divers or the seamaster, maybe an aqua terra would be nice though
Keeping pretty good time.
>>54374486
I'm curious what drugs convinced someone that slapping two Miyota 8215's in one case and charging seven-hundred plus shekels for it was a good idea.
I'm more curious what drugs would compel someone to buy such an abomination.
>at least they learned enough from the Mountain Jews to slap decorated rotors on it and call it good.
Is there even any steel Casio terrorist at this point?
Seems they're all painted resin now. Got a 1200 because it looks great, but now the paint is starting to wear off, and it'll soon look like shit. Even those advertised as being steel actually have painted resin inserts.
I'm starting to think it'd be easier to just make my own.
Hello today I recieved my timex expedition but im having trouble setting date, cant manage to put the crown in the middle any tips?
>>54376192
Nvm I did it. Also this is quite loud.
>>54371979
These look unusually decent for women's watches. I would definitely get the left one over the right, being Asian she has really tiny wrists so even a 38mm is pushing it. Speaking of which, when the fuck did it suddenly become fashionable for women's watches to get into the 40mm and 42mm sizes? They look disgusting on feminine wrists.
>>54374273
I've actually destroyed two Seiko 5s; one was an SNX809 and one was the old 36mm predecessor. Fucked em good just going cycling on shitty, potholed city streets. I believe they both had a 7S26 Revision B. I imagine the C revision would be more reliable to begin with, and my girlfriend is not exactly outdoorsy so I imagine there would not be much opportunity to wreck the automatic movement. I'd rather get something unique (by normalfag standards) rather than just any other piece of shit quartz.
>>54375991
It's not just an insert, aside from the case back and bracelet the whole thing is fucking plastic. It's a shame though, I'd definitely pay like $100 to get a steel case one, the watch is really cool looking.
>>54376276
Well this one is indeed full resin, I was refering to other models which actually have some steel as part of the case.
But there are so few. I'm sure Casio would get sold out in hours if they made classic models with steel cases.
>>54376226
Pic for muh familia
Vodka vs. sake. Who wins?
>>54376513
Both, along with some Swiss chocolate and French wine.
>>54376550
>Not eating Belgian chocolate and drinking Spanish wine
>>54376612
>Spanish Wine
I would rather drink the Golani pisswater they make over here.
Belgian chocolate is dope though.
>>54376655
It seemed like my Amphibia was going to come early as it arrived in New York a few days after it shipped. But over night it was sent to a sorting facility in Lancaster , PA and is currently out for delivery. I live in Long Island. I am really starting to hate USPS.
>>54376909
you should have raided the facility when you found out it was in new york.
>>54376970
I was trying not to baby sit a package for once. So when I finally gave in it was too late.
>>54376378
Is it as loud as the Weekender? I want a quartz.
is this good deal?
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/seiko-sea-urchin-snzf-watch?utm_placement=4&referer=NUWP22&mode=guest_open&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Automated%20Daily%20Promotional%202016-05-04&utm_term=Daily%20Promotional
>>54377023
Idk about weekender. It is louder than my old casio quartz which was mostly unhearable.
What is the model of this watch?
>>54372284
>tips
Trade money for it
>>54377123
Seiko snz g15.
>>54372284
Do you really need
>ROLEX
>OYSTER PERPETUAL
>SUPERLATIVE CHRONOMETER
>OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED
>COSMOGRAPH
>DAYTONA
>SWISS MADE
>>54377199
Thank you.
>>54377023
It's the same movement.
>>54377063
Kind of. The usual price isn't much higher, and this watch isn't considered crazy good value usually.
It's not a "true" diver if that matters to you.
For that price, you could also get an Orient Ray.
My friend bought DW watch. Where can I buy a fake one to show him how he fucked up?
>>54377386
Aliexpress always has a few fakes out there.
They used to sell factory leftovers for less than 20$ a while back.
>>54377386
Alliexpress.
I got one for 3€ and it keeps time surprisingly well.
Why there's no full steel version of the F91W with a high quality bracelet?
Is people at Casio afraid of money?
>>54377515
muh g shock
>>54372284
Get the 116506 instead.
>>54375628
YOU HAVE TO BE BRAVE ANON.
ARE YOU SOME KIND OF PANSY? THEN BUY DIESEL YOU FAGGOT
>>54376233
The B revision of the 7s26 was notoriously shitty. All problems were resolved with the C revision, and weren't even there in the A revision to begin with
>>54376655
>implying spanish and portuguese wines are not some of the best in the world
>>54377457
Got a link by any chance?
>>54375628
>I'm curious what drugs convinced someone that slapping two Miyota 8215's in one case and charging seven-hundred plus shekels for it was a good idea.
S W I S S M A D E
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>>54377811
>>54377736
http://es.aliexpress.com/item/Protecting-Baby-Safety-Security-Lock-for-Sliding-Door-Lock-Latch-Sliding-Window-Lock-Child-Safety-Lock/32659170136.html?s=p
Not the one I got but similar.
Just google "Alliexpress Daniel Wellington" and find something that looks decently priced, since sales usually get taken down.
>>54377827
Your face when those are real diamonds and this is an actual high-price luxury brand rather than a Diesel competitor.
>>54377853
We have to go deeper...
>>54358885
This is the first time I've ever had a watch make me laugh until I cried. Cheers!
>>54377827
>>54358764
w2c?
Is there a reliable method to track a mechanical watch's deviation on a daily basis?
>>54378034
Ebay.
If you can find one floating about.
>>54378070
see >>54375592
>>54378093
What's that model called?
>>54378160
I doubt there is a particular model.
It's a vintage French watch, and not a lot of information available.
Searh Midas on eBay, Etsy or whatever you can find.
>>54378191
Damn.
>>54377602
>that price
Haha, no. You'd have to be straight retarded to cough up that much for a fucking watch.
>>54378288
You could buy pic related if you can find it on /f29/, somewhat similar.
>>54365476
BR?
BR?
HUEHEUHEUHEUEHUEHEUHEU
>>54376276
The GW-56XX G-Shocks have a metal case covered with a protective resin bezel.
>>54377386
They look identical for like £5. They are Timex loud though.
>>54378350
Not really desu.
>>54378350
> being a poorfag
betta start capitalising
>>54378355
Hopefully he won't wear it on his hand.
>>54378529
Yes really you giant faggot. If you spend $20,000+ to tell what time of day it is, you're retarded.
>>54378615
Your ignorance doesn't make me a faggot, stain.
It may interest you to learn that some watches gain value over time. Sometimes a LOT of value. A few weeks back, one of the namefags was posting links to vintage Daytonas that had sold for prices well into the six figure range at auction. I've seen vintage VCs go for half a million dollars.
>>54358537
I've got a budget of £2000 whats the best automatic watch i can get for my money?
> not overcomplicated
> without a ceramic bezel
> dial less than 40mm
> not bothered weather it's swiss or not
>>54378615
the only reason your making a big fuss about someones spending habbits is becuase your jelous. Face it faggot.
>>54378701
>>54378694
I want to spend $20,000 on a watch like I want a new anus installed in my face.
>>54378722
nobody cares about your opinion go winge somewhere else
>>54378735
You clearly do. You're responding after all. I'll stay right here.
>>54378701
You have a lot of options and there is no clear "best". What sort of watch would you like? Sporty, casual, dressy?
You *might* be able to squeeze a Grand Seiko into that budget. It would take some serious hunting, but a Spring Drive would be a clear "best" at that price point.
>>54378722
You seem to already have at least one installed there, so I can understand your reluctance.
>>54378816
Yeah, I store all my not-for-a-fucking-watch money in there.
>>54378859
Speaking of 50 years from now imagine how much text will be on a rolex dial then based on current trends
>>54377842
>that link
what
>>54377876
>it's the same time everywhere around the world
nice press picture
>>54378816
It has to be new, i don't really like the idea of a used watch.
To asnwer the first question that would be casual.
What are your opinions on Tudor?
>>54379060
Tudor makes good watches. The Heritage line (Black Bay and Chrono in particular) and the Pelagos are great.
>>54379060
Tudor is a brand for people who want to keep up with the Joneses but can't afford Rolex. They make very nice watches that somehow completely avoid having any independent identity or style of their own. I've always found it a bit depressing.
>>54379199
One could argue they have a few unique designs to them, like the Heritage blue chronograph and the Heritage Ranger.
Also counting the fact that if i'm going to get a higher-middle end (Or however would you call that pricerange) Swiss watch it will more than likely be a Heritage Ranger.
>>54379237
They have definitely improved in recent years.
>>54378963
I had to check myself to see if I made any fuck up but it is the actual link.
Fucking chinks.
>>54379199
>somehow completely avoid having any independent identity or style of their own
????
>>54379199
Rolex has plenty of offerings that won't immediately break the bank.
Do any of you use Nato straps on this Seiko?
The fact the the buckles are shinny but the watch case isn't triggers my autism.
I guess I could go with PVD Nato.
Anyway, I'm also open to suggestions on strap colors, black is good but I don't want to go always with that.
Also thanks for making me fall for this meme.
>>54379285
:D
TUDOR
GENEVE
ROTOR SELF-WINDING
500m:1640ft
SWISS MEME
