You probably own a smartphone
and
unless you're a self obsessed prick take a few pictures only once every couple of weeks and probably browse the internet in those rare situations a laptop is not around but that's pretty much it
My question for you is why have people fallen for the smartphone trap when you don't even use half the features it provides or use it so rarely that it's not worth it?
<- Why not go back to these strictly functional devices and reclaim those hours lost staring into social media and do something productive?
>>54355227
Everything is a meme.
I reguarly use smartphone's advanced features.
Even dumbphones today have social media apps.
>>54355227
Yes, everything popular will die
Do you still use the Commodore 64? no
See that super popular computer was just a meme
Just like this website
And you're current computer
Tried doing that, really missed having a QWERTY keyboard and notes with online sync.
>>54355227
I take about 40 pictures a week for work. Otherwise I agree with you.
>everybody uses a phone the same way I do
fuck outta here. You even posted a stock picture. Post a picture of your own phone.
>>54355736
I have a smartphone too if that's what you're trying to say so I'm guilty of it myself
>>54355841
Yes. Why not try a dumbphone yourself before trying to convince other people to do so?
>>54355227
browsing internet on these was a nightmare even back when they were popular
just try to access any website with one of these now and see how that works out
>Are smartphones a meme?
No.
>>54355860
I had one back in the days they were all you could get but then I got caught in the smartphone hype and recently realized I'm throwing away hundreds of moneys every 1-2 year for overkill devices.
Not trying to convince anyone of anything. Just trying to start some debate.
I'm going to stick with my Galaxy S5 for as long as it lasts and then I'll get a 2 digits cheap dumbphone and enjoy the extra money
>>54355972
Start a thread the 4chan equivalent of click bait
>Give me one good reason to get a smartphone instead of a flip phone
>protip: you can't
I'm going the opposite direction, I believed SP were a meme and now I'm trying to get into them
I have a smartphone because when you go to conferences, or are just on travel in general anymore, fucking EVERYTHING assumes you have one. It's stupid as fuck, but nothing I can do.
I use a smartphone because it provides one thing dumbphones can't, a 4G hotspot. This is the one reason I keep coming back to a smartphone. I would love to go full on dumbphone or no phone at all but having the Internet everywhere is just too damned good
Give me a dumb phone that has whatsapp and is under 70€
As of now smartphones are a way better deal
>>54355972
>recently realized I'm throwing away hundreds of moneys every 1-2 year for overkill devices.
It baffles me how people think it's anywhere near worth it to spend like 500 or even 800 euros on a phone.
>>54355227
I prefer it to discreetly shitpost all day at work.
I can get a second hand smartphone for the price of a dumbphone. Once I gut it out with root a bit and grab a custom rom it'll have comparable battery life and an OS that has a hundred times more support and app variety. Is it "just werks"? No. But it's set up just the way I want it.
>>54355227
yes, they are just status symbols now that serve no purpose except being mobile facebook terminals.
Also on screen keyboards are complete shit, Unless you have little girl fingers it's damn near impossible to type without making tons of errors.
Im ready for it to end, I'm looking into pic related, It's 9 bucks at best buy.
>>54358664
Those buttons are smaller than a decent on screen keyboard
>>54358690
They're also easier to press and harder to press the wrong one.
>>54358690
the point of physical keys is that you can touch them and not type, it adds prcesion
not that they are larger or smaller
>>54355227
I need the wifi hotspot of my phone. I would honestly go back to a dumbphone if i could keep that.
>>54355227
Smartphones are very useful and do whatever they are advertised to do (taking phone calls, listening to music, browsing the web, using countless applications, use text messaging etc wherever you go).
Did they bring amazing wealth, comfort and happiness into our lives? Not really. In fact, I feel that they are just yet another burden to carry. Wherever you go, some cunt can call you, text you, e-mail you, it never fucking leaves you alone. Personally, I feel that having a smartphone actually worsens my life. I would throw it away, but unfortunately, society doesn't work that way.
>>54355227
I don't need a smartphone because I'm not a normie.
>>54358721
>>54358701
It doesnt matter unless you have teenage level eye-hand coordination
>>54355227
I take a minimum of 1 picture a day, I browse the internet countless times a day from my phone, I play games on my phone to pass the time during boring activites. All of that is certainly worth the 100 to 300 I pay every 3 to 6 years.
>>54358755
it matters if your fingers are bigger than a 3 year olds...
>>54355227
God, what a faggot. I use my smartphone literally all the time. It holds my schedule and I keep track of most of my finances from it. It's also an internet connection for my laptop when I'm not near trusted WiFi. Fuck off OP you pretentious prick.
>>54355504
A lot of dumb phones don't have Wi-Fi though and mobile data can be costly so that's a huge catch for some people
>>54358840
some do you just have to look for them.
>>54358745
>I would throw it away, but unfortunately, society doesn't work that way.
But it does, you're just a facebook-addicted pussy. I don't carry a smartphone, never had any problems with it.
here's a good keyboard i have been using for android, still not as good as physical but it's way better than the standard keyboards.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.bigbuttons&hl=en
>>54358785
I can type 60 wpm on on screen keyboard which is fast enough for anything you can possibly do on a phone. Maybe your fingers are too fat.
>>54358888
You sound like you don't have a job, my basement dwelling friend.
And I don't even have a facebook account.
>>54358938
>muh jobs
lots of people don't have jobs now days so deal with it, I checked the unemployment numbers for last month and they are rising despite the supposed "job growth" lol, it's a joke, They are literally hiding it so they don't freak people out.
I fired off 10 applications last week and haven't heard a thing.
>>54358807
> hold schedule on smartphone
> tracks finances on smartphone
and I'm the pretentious prick
Who the fuck are you, Obama?
>>54358938
Are you saying I need a smartphone to get a job?
>>54355227
>probably browse the internet in those rare situations a laptop is not around but that's pretty much it
I use the internet on my phone every single day. Multiple times a day. Mostly for streaming music, but also for other things i need to do on the go. I fucking despise touch screens, but having a constant internet access point with GPS features is just too handy to give up on. Or maybe rather, I could live without it but it would be a very serious step backwards.
>>54355227
i use my phone for almost every task. the vast majority of people actually don't appreciate their smartphone. they just like to hold it in their hands and flip through their homescreen pages like retards after they checked their facebook news feed. because they don't know what to do besides that! they can't use a smartphone because they're not smart. but they still want the most recent phones out there. so they're actually providing funds to further push technology, which is good for us.
>>54359120
Beleive it or not alot of dumb phones have gps. My flip phone from 3years ago has it
>>54359018
I am saying that some jobs simply require you to carry one with you. It's expected. If I told them that I don't want to use it any longer because it makes me feel uneasy, they would simply replace me with someone whose ideals are not interfering with work.
>>54359195
Dumbphones from a few years ago have GPS, 3G etc, but the dumbphones you can buy now usually don't, it's weird. I have the feeling that manufacturers have actually dumbed down dumbphones even further to force people to buy smartphones.
Btw, the GPS in dumbphones used to be fucking horrible. Took >five minutes until a signal was picked up.
>>54359203
Have you considered that you have a shit job?
>>54355227
I don't have a smartphone - the meme wasn't convincing.
>>54355227
>MOM THEY WONT STOP USING THINGS I DONT LIKE
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54359248
No, I have considered that life is about making compromises at some point. It doesn't kill me to use a smartphone. I'm making pretty good money and I still have time to shitpost all day erryday, so that's alright. Most of the time my job is fun as well.
I'd really like a phone which has iMessage and WhatsApp with a T9 keyboard and fairly small screen. I'd want it to be a high quality piece of hardware though.
My smartphone got me a girlfriend for the first time in my life so it's a pretty decent meme
>you don't even use half the features it provides
Spewing pure excrement of a thread onto a shitty technology board from a PC
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHMMMMMMM
It's a fucking computer on your pocket, how in hell could it be a meme? It's a dream come true
>>54355227
i browse at work, play games on it, and take pictures of dogs on the street pretty much every day, also i would still be a virgin if it werent for tinder. Im ok with smartphones.
>>54355227
Is that a Nokia for ants?
>>54355227
Best of both worlds: dumbed-down smartphone.
I have owned only ONE(1) smartphone, the Moto G 1st edition.
Then proceeded to flash a FOSS rom, disable bluetooth, disable wifi, disable mobile plans, reduce brightness to a minimum, only use it for calls, messages and the occasional photos.
I get 1 week of battery with light use but can still browse the internet IF I really needed to. I generally don't.
I'm neither a luddite nor a addicted retard. Fight me.
>>54359433
50 rupees have been credited to your account.
i like having a computer in my pocket.
dumbphones aren't a (basically) full fledged computer.
>>54359497
> actually a good idea
I can't
You win
>>54355227
My grandfather has this phone.
My question is this: Let's assum. I do take a picture once a week, and browse the internet outside only in the doctor's waiting room. What is inherently wrong in taking a better picture once a week, or in having a better internet browsing experience in the waiting room?
I could live with a dumbphone, but I'd just have shittier photos, then.
>>54359497
I had the 2nd gen but it was a pos. Poor battery life buggy. Finally the battery overheated and became swollen. Non removable too so had to throw the phone away. Ill never buy a motorolla again.
>>54359557
Moto G 1st gen was made in the US (at least designed) but after that Motorola was bought by... Lenovo.
>>54358888
I don't even use facebook you faggot. I'm not going to throw away my smartphone and start carrying around a GPS, a PMP, a dumb phone, etc. when I can just carry around a single device that does all of that.
currently have this for whenever. dont need a cell phone at all, gonna go on a trip so im going to use the daily plan on it, after that it will go back in the drawer.
one of the great advantages of dumb phones over smartphones is battery power, no smartphone can ever compete, while smartphone functions are nice, do you really need to be online 24/7?
>inb4 work requires me to
if your job requires you to not just have a cell phone, it has to be a smartphone because of whatever messaging app or so they can track you, then that is a fucked up job, you shouldn't have to put up with that kind of stress after you clock out.
It's pretty much a pocket tablet you can use everywhere where you have wifi or if you have a data plan. And yeah, since it has so many features you can occasionally listen to some music, shoot some video, take a picture, take or make a phone call, get messages.
It's comfy to have it all in a pocketable device even tho you might not use each feature intensively every day..
So, are they overrated? Yeah. Are they useful? Yup.
I have a smartphone so I can see what you dumbasses are bickering about in my down time at work, such as now.
>>54355227
Stop carrying a multool around. Phone only phone. Internet only tablet. Carry a calculator around incase you need a calculator. Bring a camera that only takes pictures. Bring your credit cards. Bring an mp3 player if you want music. Bring a TomTom if you need gps. Bring a mobile Hotspot if you need mobile internet.
Or I could bring my smartphone.
>>54358981
I am
>>54359615
Not to mention the hilariously expensive data plans. $50+ per month for like 5 measly gigs lol.
I can eat 5 gigs in a day on my PC.
And wifi? Who cared about that? If you have to stay tethered to wifi you don't have much of a mobile phone...
Smartphone are a joke.
>>54359728
I pay $50/m for unlimted LTE on T-Mobile get fucked retard.
>>54358562
See >>54355227 and >>54359615
I think there's a lot of things I'd end up missing if I got rid of my smart phone, despite the fact that I keep saying I don't want one. Auto-photo sync, browsing lewd pictures on the shitter at work, customization, and more than anything, GPS connected via bluetooth to my car stereo.
>>54359738
I pay 10 for cable internet for my PC with unlimited data. Why would I pay twice as much for phone internet?
>>54355972
>recently realized I'm throwing away hundreds of moneys every 1-2 year for overkill devices.
You can get by with budget phones, fucktard. Personally I'm using a HTC 626s that I got for like 100 bucks and it's smooth and does everything I need. There really isn't much reason to buy the newest flagship every year unless you're a hardcore enthusiast or a retard.
>>54359728
That is another of the big reasons why I quit having a phone, my job doesn't require it, I am home when I'm not at work most of the time. Even at $35 a month, that was money being thrown away.
Do you really need to fidget with your phone every spare second you have?
Still the best smartphone, even in this day and age. Let's not even start on the superb build quality. Anyone who owned one will agree.
>>54359763
For when you leave the house. Believe it or not, some people do such things on a regular basis!
>>54355972
Well that's your problem, stop spending money on phones you don't need. Like the gs7/g5/s6+/etc and buy a fucking phone that will do what you want. People buy those cheap 100-200 dollar phones because they've realized it's pointless to buy such overpriced phones.
The lg volt might've been up your alley.
>>54359823
i still have myne, i use it once in a while, but my battery is fucked
>>54359823
It's just a shame that symbian sucks ass. And yes, I've written programs for it.
>>54359825
yes but you are paying over twice as much for the same service...
and why do i need to be connected to the social media grid 24/7 anyway? Belive it or not when i leave the house i don't feel the need to report in to twitter or facebook my every action, I don't need to take pictures of my food when i go to restaurants, i don't need to plaster my face all over desperate edating websites.
>>54360206
Maybe you don't need it. Cool. keep on not paying for it. Other people have uses for it. I hit up pawn shops and thrift stores often, it's nice to not have to make a trip home to price check shit. Hell in a month's time the money I save in gas practically pays for the mobile data.
I also love skating out to the middle of nowhere with a netbook or UMPC and have a beautiful view and fresh air to do what I'd normally be cooped up inside for.
>>54355227
>in those rare situations a laptop is not around
I don't carry a laptop with me. It stays at home. I use my phone for web browsing on the go.
>>54355227
> few pictures only once every couple of weeks
So? Instead of having a phone I carry around all the time being able to do it, you suggest to buy a $200 camera that can't do anything else and needs to be carrying around for situations where I expect to make pictures?
>browse the internet in those rare situations a laptop is not around
When I want to check IM messages or news after waking up, grabbing the phone is just more comfortable than standing up and getting the laptop. Also the whole "on the run" thing.
Additionally there is simply listening to music, which can be done by another shitty device and actual phone functions. There is also calendar and notes functionality.
Oh and porn.
So why not just getting a smartphone instead of camera, mp3 player, mp4 player, a notebook, pen, calendar and a dumbphone that can't even replace it properly and are barely cheaper?
>reclaim those hours lost staring into social media and do something productive?
If you don't have any self control, giving up functionality won't help you and you'll find other ways to waste time.
>>54358664
>100-800 bucks devices
>status symbol
How's life in India, mate?
>tfw phone is most used object i own
>Use it for games
>Use it for internet
>Use it for reading
>Use it for videos
>Use it for music
>All while using it as an actual phone as well
Very few things about this phone would drive me to use a laptop. Its so much easier to browse most sites, and i can do it from virtually anywhere at any time.
I dont even partake in social media or picture taking, smartphones are just too handy. They'll never die out, they'll just become more like actual computers, with better physical add-on support for things like keyboards or controllers.
>>54360596
>Use it for reading
Oh, forgot that too.
Although why would you play games on it, WHY?
>>54355227
posted these before but... yeah. Not everyone uses a smartphone. Fuck that, I got a list of shit to do and fucking off on a phone ain't part of that list.
>>54360614
Its great for emulators. Have you tried playing DS games on it? Shits comfy and acts like an actual phone game but with a hell of a lot more care put into them.
Also, there's a handful of actually good mobile games. Nothing fantastic, and it gets buried in shit, but they're still good.
>>54360640
Unless you have a physical keyboard or joypad, these games are pretty much unplayable.
>>54358860
I know, but they're not that common
>>54360651
Games like Phoenix Wright, any turn-based RPG, etc (practically any non-action game) is perfectly playable with touch controls.
Lots of ds games can be played with nothing but the touch screen of the emulator.
Should also make mention that whipping out a smartphone to play Pokemon is a lot better received in public than whipping out a ds lite or 3ds.
>>54360614
There are games that work well on a touchscreen, 2048 for example.
>>54360693
Pokemon is for faggots and 90s dweebs.
>>54355227
Unlike you I go outside, so laptop isn't with me 24/7. Smartphone and maybe a tablet if I'm going hiking.
>>54360693
>Should also make mention that whipping out a smartphone to play Pokemon is a lot better received in public than whipping out a ds lite or 3ds.
Heaven forbid random strangers look down on me!
Seriously, who is this fucking self conscious?
>>54355227
in 3rd world countries cellphone plans are usually pre paid. whatsapp allows you to call for free.
other than that, poor people love showing their co-workers porn videos and woman they add on facebook
>>54355227
>strictly functional
Nigga, I work in retail taking care of RMAs and shit. These fuckers die like flies and are the highest RMAed phones I have ever dealt with. That's only counting the RMAs. I've had several people tell me they don't bother returning theirs because it costs fuck all / it's not worth the time spend doing it.
Just get a fucking Moto G and have it until you need to switch in 7 years.
>>54360722
Im both. Suck it.
>>54360750
Convenience aside, people do make comments. Don't care, but I'd rather not set myself up.
Don't make me post the comics.
>>54360778
>poor people love showing their co-workers porn videos and woman they add on facebook
Now I remember the time from working in retail.
I have an LG G3 with a prepaid no-data $0.10/min call plan, I rarely make cell calls because I live in an area with very poor coverage. Primary use is for health-related apps: AliveCor - to monitor my heart for AFib and MapMyRun to record my workouts including data from a BT-connected HR strap. For privacy reasons I don't backup the phone or sync it and I dont link with or use any identifying social apps on the phone - it is a walled off from my regular email, contacts, etc.. .
I have very real concerns about discrimination at work and I take precautions to avoid any reference to my personal health issues on my work issued iPhone 5s.
>>54355227
>send/received 50+ text messages a day
>receive pictures from the field that I must be able to call out and give advice on
>send/receive 20+ emails a day
>must take quality photos and send to employees
>remote desktop access to view job aids
>read marvel unlimited
>online shopping for supplies or personal
>tinder
>porn
>not looking like an autist in social situations when whipping out a borderline useless flip phone then trying to explain to everyone why the most popular and versatile modern electronic devices are actually somehow inferior to a less useful and functional basic phone.
>>54358664
I can type very quickly with an OSKB. Took some time to get to where I'm at now but same with typing on a reg KB. Any mistakes or errors I make are typically corrected with autocorrect.
And I'm 30 years old.
That whole "im too old" or "the keys are too hard to hit accurately" excuses is bullshit.
If you put some time to it you can make OSKB's work for you very efficiently.
>>54355227
I don't have a computer so I use my smartphone for everything.
>>54359361
>falling for the girlfriend meme
>>54359361
how?
>I like your phone, Anon, let's fuck
>>54355227
Bro you're not gonna get any pussy with that phone.
>>54355227
I dont own laptop.
>>54355227
I'll gladly buy and use any phone that can play .ogg files and make good photos. This two features are everything that i need except sms/calling in a mobile phone.
>>54360527
>laptop
>stays at home
Lol you dodged one meme and fell for another why not just get a desktop anon?
>>54355227
Desu familia, I want a GPS navigation in my smartphone, wifi hotspot option (for my laptop), nice email client (when i'm in my company), good camera and ability to open attachments from emails like pdf or docx files. Also internet access is needed because of gps navigation.
Dumbphone can't provide this.
Also I don't have a social life. Try harder.
>>54362734
>Also internet access is needed because of gps navigation.
what? even my tablet doesn't need internet access for gps
>i dont use social media cause i have no friends, be sad for me pls :(
fuck off
>>54362799
I need it, no the tablet.
I want to know which street is currently closed and which route is currently the fastest one. Also information about traffic jams is extremely useful.
>>54355227
Unless you have cash to burn for japanese flip phones, the old tactile phones suck in call quality compared to smart phones. Upgraded to a smart burner in 2014 and the sound quality blew the fuck out the quality of my flip phone.
So yeah, go ahead and call smart phones a meme. Even though they perform their main purpose better than most tactile phones (making phone calls)
I used to get by without smartphone justfine until february 2016 and i am 26. But i wanted something to take snaps conveniently anywhere so i got Lumia 520 for 30€ and its very convenient.
I have maps in there so i sold my garmin gps for 70, having a camera is very handy, notes are handy and whenever there is wifi i can shitpost or check my bus etc.
Getting a smartphone doesnt mean you have to be on fb 24/7 or pay hundreds of shekels. Dont fall for /g/'s expensive riced phones. Asses your needs rationally and smartphone can end up being a better value than dumbphone.
Dumb phones are hipster memery as well. Protip bunch of faggots: nobody is forcing you to keep your smartphone screen on with all the features including 4g and gps on all day. I have a Nexus 5 which I use as a dumbphone and lasts more than twice in standby (the same use youd give to a dumbphone) than any dumbphone because if fucking has more than twice the battery capacity.
As to why I have a smartphone that I use as a dumbphone, well im not a poorfag neet whose entire savings are gone when I buy a product, I can afford it and the features like gps and pretty much having a computer in your pocket can come really handy at times. Im not dumb enough to get cucked into a monthly plan either.
>>54355227
If you want a dumbphone you can get a Lumia for 30 bucks which is a fully functioning smart phone.
It works perfectly fine as a dumphone.
>>54359728
>Not to mention the hilariously expensive data plans. $50+ per month for like 5 measly gigs lol.
>I can eat 5 gigs in a day on my PC.
I can use 10GB in a few minutes while downloading my latest waifu show. Pic related.
It's not about the amount of data you transfer, it is about having a constant internet connection everywhere you go. It makes streaming music make sense because you have a PMP that is constantly connected to the internet when you are out and about.
>>54363653
Maki is so cute, pure and innocent :3
This thread is a meme.
"internet user" is a meme
most of us aren't the customer
we are the data, the product
and the advertisers are the customer
we trade our privacy for "free" services
training us to be consumer sheep
cheap smartphones are the cheapest way
to bring advertising to everyone
>>54358664
>Also on screen keyboards are complete shit, Unless you have little girl fingers it's damn near impossible to type without making tons of errors.
Thats true only if your a autist
I remember when GSMArena was just one big text menu of phones with specs and finding something with WiFi was expensive as fuck
>>54355227
I take dozens of photos a day, and none are of me. Because, there's like the rest of the world and stuff in it.
>>54355227
I need a smartphone because I develop for it
>>54359742
These arent avaliable anywhere brand new and are not supported
>>54355227
featureless phones are ok but that one sucks big time! the back is so shinny and polished it will slide off any place you put it given the slightest inclination. you would think it locks and unlocks the keyboard like previous nokias, but it doesnt, no typematic speed adjustment, "menu d-pad" thin as a hair very easy to miss and click on the middle button, etc.
>>54355227
I'd like to go back to feature phones if only I can find one with 4g, wifi tethering, decent browser (at least on the level of desktop browsers 10-12 years ago) and GPS. I don't need facebooks, twitters or any apps. Unfortunately, I've never seen anything like that
>>54355227
>VOIP calls
>call forwarding from the office
>Live updates on weather and traffic
>Google Maps
>Live updates of my sales floor
Yeah, no. I have a ligitamate job that this Smart Phone (Nexus 6 btw) makes alot easier. I dont have to jump up and run inside everytime I need something.
ITT OP is a NEET that just wanted to shitpost
2/10 for making me reply.
>>54361045
>it is a walled off from my regular email, contacts, etc.. .
has anyone abandoned email, in the sense that most of your personal messages are done with facebook?
if not facebook, what other app has replaced email? (linkedin?)
>>54365826
Not sure if you mean personal or business since you mention linkedin. For business, EVERYONE uses email. For personal, most people use facebook but everyone still at least has an email for signing up to services.
>>54355227
I'd buy a dumbphone if it had wifi hotspot. literally the only thing i'd need, i could use a tablet for anything i want apps for.
find me a feature phone with a reddit app and I'll switch.
Funny enough, the last person I saw using a dumbphone was in 2012.. he was this fat otaku asking his mom to come pick him up from the book store since he had reading manga there for like 3 hours without buying anything. Truly inspirational.
>>54365975
>For business, EVERYONE uses email. For personal, most people use facebook but everyone still at least has an email for signing up to services.
Health Care (business) has to use 'secure' messaging. The solutions usually go beyond the intention of HIPAA rules and make it near impossible to use. HIPAA intent is to limit the way businesses or entities can access a patients PHI (protected health information), but they often mis-apply HIPPA rules and restrict patient and family communication because that is what provider's legal advise.
I get a lot of shit from LinkedIn. All most all of it from strangers, and I suspect bots.
Yeah, email is for signing up for stuff.
>>54359728
Well that's only a problem if you live in America.
>>54362170
Yeah because that's totally how it works
>ooh anon is that the new iPhone? bby you got me drippin wet now, get over here so I can hop on
>>54355227
When I used a smart phone I used it for shitposting, emulators, email, and other things more specific to my non /g/ related interests that I won't get into. I ditched it due to government spying, vulnerabilities such as Stagefright and patches not getting sent out to fix them, the device being locked down so I couldn't put an alternate OS on it, depending on a touchscreen for everything being a mistake, and Android being a bloated piece of shit that uses more RAM than my Linux install + browser + email client on the netbook that I replaced it with. Now I'm looking at getting something to do some of the things my cell phone did without any of the issues that I had with it as even though the smart phones I've seen are terrible implementations of pocket size computers, I still desire to own what I consider to be a good implementation even if I have to build one my damn self.
>>54366272
uh, no it's not
>>54355227
Say what you want about "apps," meme startup kiddies trying to make everything an app, and the shitpile that is the IoT but fuck me if while it isn't really secure, having my bank and credit card balances whenever I need them is pretty fucking aces. That and being able to check if the LIRR is fucked again. Oh and my email too.
Plus I got my S4 for $160, pay only an extra $10/month on my phone bill for 1gb of data I have yet to go over, and I have no reason to upgrade. I do like working with and using my smartphone, and it's always there in an emergency.
>Who needs to be online 24/7?
Some jobs require it, honestly, most likely normal people jobs that don't need a whole lot of security. For instance, the different facets of insurance need to be online on-the-go constantly to stay competitive during the day.
>>54363619
This. Actual dumbphones or 'smart' dumbphones aren't even that cheap.
>>54365475
Just get a smartphone and delete the apps...
>>54366543
Where do you live? I've lived in the UK, France and Ireland and mobile phone prices have always been dirt cheap. I'm currently with RED by sfr and I pay 15 euros a month for unlimited text/calls and 5 gigabytes of LTE and unlimited at lower speeds.
It's not even the best deal, I'm sure I could get a better one.
>>54363619
>>54366591
One of the best parts about dumbphones is that they're not generic glass slates.
How would I play Love Live if I didn't have a smartphone?
>>54366786
iPod touch
>>54366638
>Just get a smartphone and delete the apps...
but I don't like glass slabs and smart flip phones are all shit. I'd get BB priv but it's too fuckhuge
>>54363619
I have a Lumia 640 too.
>>54366821
Get a BlackBerry Q10 or a Classic
>>54359193
I agree. Reading books while listening to music on public transport is a good example I suppose. (or when in some waiting room).
>>54366638
>Just get a smartphone and delete the apps...
Cheaper android phones have less than 1G of ram available. I've seen phones run out of memory and become useless in less than one year because when built-in apps get updates, the rom version gets replaced with a ram version. By the time half the apps in your phone get updates your memory is exhausted. BUILT-IN TIME-BOMB OBSOLESCENCE.
in many cases you can't really delete the manufacturer or carrier bloatware without rooting the phone, and if you're going to that, you should get a phone that can run cyanogenmod.
I tried cyanogenmod but my apps that use GPS and bluetooth-LE stopped working.
>>54366932
>I've seen phones run out of memory and become useless in less than one year
I wasn't aware that RAM could wear out like that.
>>54366919
Also, could someone provide a list of medium-tier non-flagship phones? I don't wanna waste lots of money on a new phone yet I am sick of the small screen of my current one. (I use it for reading)
>>54365201
That's just.. magnificent. Exactly my thoughts but couldn't say it better myself.
>>54366961
Ask /spg/ and /csg/
You probably want a Moto G, a ZTE Warp Elite if on Boost Mobile, or a Xiaomi Redmi 3 or Redmi Note 3
>>54366932
Perhaps you could think a little and disable automatic updates, then outright disable the playstore.
Most apps cant be removed, you're right, but all of them can be disabled.
>>54366960
>I wasn't aware that RAM could wear out like that.
say the factory fresh phone has 1.5Gb rom that is 80% full and 100% of 1Gb ram free
app updates and app data, e.g. updated google and non-google apps are downloaded, and due to some android restrictions, some of them have to go into ram and not the external SDcard
eventually the 1G ram fills up with updated apps, and if you try to delete those apps, android will try to automatically download them again
>>54366960
But he´s right in a way, compare app sizes both of the app itself and of it running and you´ll see how much obcsenely obese they´ve gotten. My dad´s shit galaxy is starting to run out of internal space because apparently you need 50MB to run a picture viewer and 120MB for FB chat. Same with ram, especially the Play Services that is a fucking batter/data/ram/space eater.
>>54355227
A phone without wi-fi, 3g and bluetooth is decent - as long as it's solid and has long battery life.
Then you can buy a cheap portable camera and have everything you need for 1/10 of what a smartphone costs.
>>54355868
it's still shit desu.
>>54365201
>>54366982
Thanks to the USA's
Best Government that Money Can Buy
lobbyists are writing bills for congress to sponsor that would make creating an alias email or facebook (or similar) account illegal. The supposed reason is to stop bullying, but the motivation is increase the accuracy of advertising and of course eliminate anonymous criticism of business (or government.)
>>54367067
A-are you retarded or something? Flash storage =/= RAM. Only portable devices where the RAM was actually used for storage were old Palm PDAs and Pocket PC PDAs.
>>54358639
This...
you can buy a iphone 4s for the price of a dumbphone right now.
>>54355227
>all of the people in this thread who fell for the cell phone meme
Here's your reminder that if you own a cell phone then you might as well let the government install a telescreen in your home.
>the NSA actively collects bulk metadata on cell phone connections to cell towers and stores it for months at a time in their FASCIA database, allowing them to look you up in their database and see a map of your travel habbits, they also now give all other 3 letter agencies access to this data
>in all cell phones with only a couple exceptions (such as the Blackphone and Neo900) the baseband processor, which controls the cell phone's connection to the cell tower, has complete access to the phone's main CPU and RAM, allowing complete backdoor access to your cell phone with simple exploits which are easy for the governemnt to develop because they can request the baseband firmware from companies for a security audit
>police departments regularly deploy stingrays for tracking cell phones and their owners
>>54367238
Not USA citizen.
In my country shops sell sim cards without any form of ID or any link to your real identity - my dumb phone can only be tracked via triangulation since it has no feature - and nothing except antenna, and even then it would not be precise and the phone would have to be ON and they would have to target me... that means I would have to do something illegal and make it obvious that that number is mine.
>>54367145
>A-are you retarded or something?
probably not as retarded as you think
I was trying to make things easy for people who look at specs on phonescoop or gsmarena and see things like
Memory
32 GB internal storage, raw hardware
23 GB internal storage, available to user
3 GB RAM
Here's a pro-tip: instead of just calling the 'retard' card, why don't you go ahead explain memory addressing and allocation for Android for everyone's benefit.
ive been a lifelong dumbphone user until literally today when I bought my first smartphone, so far I really like it. being able to use the internet from anywhere, gps so i can explore and find places to eat when i'm in a new town, taking pictures and sharing them with friends. I dunno I am liking it. i don't think i needed an s7 though, probably should've went for a cheap phone.
>>54367238
all this shit and its almost never stopped a crime or terrorist attack
>>54367323
>Not USA citizen.
Or one of the other 5 Eyes countries?
>and make it obvious that that number is mine.
Such as calling the people you are known to associate with. Look up the NSA's SKYNET program in Pakistan where they used the same metadata to decide targets for drone strikes. They can a lot with just the metadata on cell phone connections to towers.
>>54367386
That's a rather long post when the single word "yes" would have worked just as well.
>>54367440
Not in one of other 5 eyes countries either.
If I done something illegal I would not talk with family or people I know - but right now I do not hide from anyone and I only speak with two people over my phone.
>>54366778
It's just aesthetic at that point, you are getting a dumbphone so it can match your EDC
>>54355227
for me it's all about the podcasts, i used to have to sit on my ass to listen to them or put them on my mp3 player but now it's all in one, i just have a shitty tracfone (yeah, fuck you too) and do everything over wifi
>>54366173
Sounds like a pain in the arse. Could they use hardened email so that it's not so proprietary?
>>54367833
hardened I mean set up with proper TLS and authentication, maybe encrypted emails
>>54367833
>>54367847
Decisions are made by Directors who go with large consulting firms, e.g. Deloitte, Mckesson. Funny to see IBM now pushing Apple hardware.
>>54367238
In most places in the USA you can go into a Kmart, Target, Walmart, or big grocery store and buy a prepaid phone. You can also buy refill cards. If you pay cash the transaction is anonymous.
Such phones are useful for many legal reasons. Shelters give these phones to people fleeing dangerous home situations. They might be reassuring to whistle-blowers who fear retaliation from their employer.
They're also useful to criminals, and when used for this purpose they're called burner phones. The US government wants to make them illegal.
google this:
Pre-Paid Mobile Device Security Gap Act of 2016
>>54368064
>b-but burner phones
Unless you really know what you're doing they won't help and might even attract more attention if you're regularly changing burner phones and don't know what you're doing. Look up the NSA's SKYNET program to see how much they can do.
>if you change phones without overlapping their usage you out yourself
>if you call the same numbers on each burner you own you out yourself
>if you call people who would otherwise be associated with you you out yourself
>if your phone is on at your house you likely outed yourself
Only thing that law would do is make it easier for local police departments who don't have the resources of the NSA to tie burner phones to people, though it would likely have the negative effect of pushing people who use burner phones to alternative forms of communication that are more secure and easier to not screw up than burner phones.
But OP, I don't use a smartphone.
>>54367664
Fuck off faggot
