>People wonder why OS X is so popular for programmers and developers nowadays
>Company covers the cost of the machine so price is irrelevant
>Good build quality and trackpad, keyboard is average
>16:10 panels show more lines of code on the screen
>UNIX that just works, gets out the way and allows you to be productive instead of having to play sysadmin everyday to make sure the OS doesn't break
More like fake as fuck CS degree "programmers" who's favorite language is Java.
Tech illiteracy makes me cringe. I've never known a single person who knows how to program embedded systems that uses a mac.
>>54321218
A mac with osx is a BSD with drivers and hardware made for each other. Instead of mucking about tweaking drivers, you just open a terminal and start fucking programming already.
>>54321340
>program embedded systems
All that shit is typically Windows based.
>>54321218
>16:10 panels show more lines of code on the screen
How do retards still fall for this meme? Learn some basic math.
>>54321218
>mfw that screen is 1152x768
>>54321218
>good trackpad
Trackpoints are superior
>>54323354
>A number of ergonomic studies to compare trackpoint and touchpad performance have been performed.[12][13] Most studies find that touchpad is slightly faster; one study found that "the touchpad was operated 15% faster than the trackpoint".[14] Another study found that average object selection time was faster with a touchpad, 1.7 seconds compared to 2.2 seconds with a trackpoint, and object manipulation took 6.2 seconds with a touchpad, on average, against 8.1 seconds with trackpoint.[15]
>>54321218
Can you stop shilling thread?not just Mac shit but windows too.
>>54321218
>price-comparison-website
>check notebooks
>check 16:10
>check backlit keyboard
result: http://skinflint.co.uk/?cat=nb&xf=1200_16%3A10~69_beleuchtete+Tastatur#xf_top
That's why Apple is #1.
>>54323367
So what? That's not true for everyone and I still prefer a trackpoint because I think it's much more comfortable to use.
OS X is like the best of windows and unix-like
it's the best for designers as well
it has a lot of proprietary software
while it can also run 99% of linux & bsd like programs
why do people even hate on it, when it's the best OS since at least 2002?
and locked down argument is just wrong - you can even install x11 and a tiling WM on os x, and since 2006 it can be run on regular computers
>not just installing some distro on your mac
best of both worlds desu
>>54323296
> All that shit is typically Windows based.
true, mostly. but there are serious industry-relevant open source toolchains, e.g. Linaro toolchain.
>>54323367
Trackpad are quicker when you hand is already on them. For me it's the ability for my hands to always remain on the home row that makes be prefer them to trackpads. I quite frequently miss them on muh desktop.
>>54323399
>why do people even hate on it
Blind hatred and misinformation
OS X will be deprecated when Ubuntu on Windows gets released officially. People will be much less tolerant to shitty versions like Yosemite and planned obsolescence once there's a viable alternative out.
>>54325259
but anyone doing real work is going to be plugging the machine into a real external display and use a normal keyboard and mouse.
i have an x220 and a 2011 macbook and the macbooks trackpad shits all over the x220 stupid nub, it works fine but then you get drifting and other stupid shit and its just a pain in the ass to use
>>54325316
>but anyone doing real work is going to be plugging the machine into a real external display and use a normal keyboard and mouse.
Why? That's what your desktop is for.
>>54323367
DELETE THIS
>>54323354
As someone who used ThinkPads for years and then bought a rMBP; Apple Trackpads paired with OS X are far more capable and accurate than any trackpoint.
What I don't understand is how a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or 5th gen apple device can still be as expensive as they were when they were released years ago.
>>54325371
You can buy 2011 Macbooks for a few hundred dollars. Sure they're more expensive than most other 2011 laptops, even high end ones, but it sure as hell isn't the $1500-$2000 it was back in 2011. Even the 2011 17" MBPs which were in the $2500-$3000 range are 'only' $1000 these days.
> 5k display
> xbone-grade GPU
okay
>>54325510
>implying that's not fine for not gaymen
>>54321218
The real reason homosex is so popular is that it has a unix-like system with justwerks(tm) semantics.
>>54325530
>homosex
lel so funny xDDD
>>54325558
>>>/reddit/
>>54323398
>makes an opinion-based blanket statement about trackpoint being superior like it's an objective fact of the universe
>informed post showing that if you want to go into the statistical, objective terrain you're gonna be proved wrong
>"B-b-but fuck you I do what I want"
The hypocrisy, cherry picking, autism and cognitive dissonance is almost thick enough to taste on /g/
>>54325329
because using a small 15" display regardless of the resolution is inefficient. i wouldnt expect people here to have real world experience in the first place
>>54321218
It's only 'popular' because it is required to develop iPhone apps.
>>54325586
Yes but my point is that the only time you should be on a lapotp is when you don't have a mouse, keyboard, and monitor available to you.
>>54325586
>No one ever has to do work anywhere but at home on their desktop computer
>>54325611
You transport your laptop to work on the go and plug it in to work at a workstation with better facilities. You don't want to log into the workstation because you want to keep your data and progress.
>>54323367
IBM BTFO
>>54325584
The study is obviously flawed. It doesn't take into account the time it takes for your hand to move from the home row to the trackpad and back again. This would easier make a trackpoint faster.
>>54325627
The majority of people don't program at Starbucks™ while drinking their Mocha Latte® on their Macbook Pro™.
>>54325584
>I am right because muh statistics
A lot of people prefer a trackpoint. Just because some statistics say that touchpads are somehow faster use (which I disagree with) doesn't mean it's better for everyone.
>>54325644
Of course they didn't. You realize the times given are how long it took from the start of moving the cursor to the end, right? It doesn't involve travel time to the trackpad or from the homerow, it's simply how long it took participants to manipulate GUI elements using both a trackpad and touchpad.
>>54325688
So if you're traveling and you have a 13 hour flight ahead of you the best use of your time is to not have a laptop because you should only be doing work on a "proper" desktop computer? Let me guess, you're still a teenager.
>>54325713
>just because reality is not aligned with my opinion doesn't mean my opinion is not fact!
>>54325713
A lot of people prefer an AMD cpu. Just because some statistics say that Intel cpus are somehow faster use (which I disagree with) doesn't mean it's better for everyone.
>>54325741
The study is inherently flawed then. The main attraction to the trackpoint is cutting down the transition time.
>because every developer routinely travels across country
>>54325747
I'm not saying it's a fact that trackpoints are superior (well I kinda did but I don't think it is), I'm saying it comes down to personal preferance.
>>54325815
Again, they weren't looking for transition times. This was a test showing how fast you can manipulate a GUI with a trackpoint vs a trackpad. For all you know people could spend 500ms switching to the trackpad only to save multiple seconds navigating through excel and outlook's GUI before ever going back to the homerow to type. Or perhaps they're using photoshop in which case the homerow isn't even relevant. The study can't be flawed if that's not what it was studying in the first place.
>>because every developer routinely travels across country
Many professionals do. It's funny how you think the only people who use a computer for work are programmers.
>>54325350
Dumb anime poster
>>54325765
That's a bad comparison. You don't use a CPU for some kind of input.
There could be people who prefer the Apple Magic Mouse over any other mouse even though most people probably agree that it's awful.
>>54325918
Any calculation of efficiency has to take into account the transition time. With a programmer usage case, where you are only briefly using the cursor, the transition time would almost surely negate any object manipulation efficiency.
The number of professionals who travel for sustained periods of time is negligible. Even those usage cases would be limited to answering emails or videoconferencing. Nobody is developing software or video editing on a plane with any serious frequency. To thing this number is serious enough to justify an entire line of computers is ridiculous.
>>54325259
>this is the year of linux on desktop, I swear
>>54325954
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>>54321218
>got new programming
>have to use mac or linux, and macs are provided
>mfw I've been using Windows my whole life and never realized how shit it was comparatively for dev speed and tools
>>54321218
The GUI argument is irrelevant thanks to GNOME 3.
>>54326122
>gnome 3
>a hybrid between tablet and desktop who fails in both fields
>based on that horrible vaporwave turd called X.org
>>54321218
It's called Mac OS, it's a minority using OS X.
>>54326185
Are you saying that there's people still using PPC macs?
How they do that?
>>54321218
OSX isn't popular for programmers why does this meme keep getting pushed around?
>>54325510
back off with your gaymen shit, retard.
>>54326203
Maybe try leaving your mum's basement sometime, Timmy.
>>54326203
>source: me
>>54326203
k
>>54326202
Nobody uses PPC Macs anymore.
Apple changed the name to MacOS.
>>54326166
You've been taking /g/ memes too seriously buddy
>>54326025
>Any calculation of efficiency has to take into account the transition time.
Why? Because you said so?
>With a programmer usage case, where you are only briefly using the cursor, the transition time would almost surely negate any object manipulation efficiency.
If they were studying how trackpoints vs trackpads affect programming efficiency then why did they focus on GUI manipulation? You keep trying to push this premise that the study SHOULD be about something it wasn't even designed to research. The study is what it is; Trackpads are measurably faster than trackpoints on average in GUI manipulation tasks. That implies nothing about transitioning from the homerow to the pointing device or too much about what field of work you are using your computer in.
>The number of professionals who travel for sustained periods of time is negligible.
Do you have a citation for that? If it's so negligible then why is there a market for business laptops? Why do many businesses buy expensive laptops for their employees to use? Clearly there are people and companies who believe many people do work while traveling in some form.
>Even those usage cases would be limited to answering emails or videoconferencing.
Both of those things are considered work.
>Nobody is developing software or video editing on a plane with any serious frequency.
Your point being?
>To thing this number is serious enough to justify an entire line of computers is ridiculous.
The people in control of manufacturing computers seem to think there's enough of a market there to justify building entire lines of computers to fill this niche, and there is clearly enough money in that niche for said companies to keep these lines alive. I really don't see what you're getting at here.
>>54326203
non-productive basement programmers might be using arch but someone who actually does some work uses/wants macbook.
>>54326235
But Apple still doesn't make that official.
Hope they abandon all the OS9 and PPC legacy if they rename OSX macOS.
>>54326259
No real programmers are using linux either.
The majority of programming is done in windows you know the fucking OS with the largest market share. I swear /g/ is full of some of the most retarded people.
>>54326288
geez we are not in 1990, people want/tend to use newer technology to be more productive. Visual studio is not a monopoly anymore while there is CLion. You now have billions of commercial alternatives in macos.
>>54326203
>>54326253
Most business class computers have trackpoints and shitty screens. Only the fringe has a real need for doing "real work" on a laptop. The main need for business laptops is so people can work at home and bring the files with them, a dock with a connected high resolution screen is the logical option.
>>54326288
Linux actually runs on more computers. In any case, Linux is better equipped to develop on. Just because a program might run on Windows doesn't mean that it has to be developed on Windows.
>>54326319
>newer technology on a mac
Yeah no
>>54326361
>Unix development
The meme continues
>>54326231
What's an old photo of Linus running Fedora got to do with programmers using OS X?
>>54326202
>>54326235
There are still people using PowerPC Macs, I've got a few that see daily use, and I'm not the only one.
>>54326435
They use them with their respective OSX or they use some PPC linux flavor?
>>54326468
Both. I run 10.5.8 and 10.4.11 on a few machines and OpenBSD on others.
>>54323274
Notice how no one replies to the most poignant argument because all the apple hatred is from people too poor to afford a mac or so stupid that they can only regurgitate ignorant arguments they read on /g/.
>>54321218
> Sends other UNIX boxes to /dev/null
Say what you will about Apple but that's a good fucking tagline
>>54326493
Cool.
Sometimes I'm thinking on grab a powerbook just for the Uni. Good know that's feasible.
>>54323455
Or maybe because they've tried it and realize it's not as good as its fanboys claim it to be?
>>54326557
Some poeple actually have legitimate reasons, but mostly it's blind hatred and misinfo.
>>54326530
Windows 10 runs objectively better than osx on new Macbooks.
It's 2016, literally every OS is turn-key.
>>54326602
Unfortunately, it means you'd be running Windows 10
>>54326557
That doesn't make one to automagically hate some OS or Brand.
Except inmature people, obviously.
>>54321218
>tfw OS X will never look lickable again
>>54326611
>b-but windows
Go away. Your shitty meme company has 4 computer lines and it can't even optimize it's OS for those.
>>54321218
What the fuck are MacBooks used to program for?
Webdev and iPhones? What else?
>>54326585
In my case, my complaint is that OS X doesn't confirm monitor resolution changes. So if you change a resolution and your monitor doesn't support it, the screen will simply go black instead of doing it the way Windows does it, which is asking the user to confirm if their monitor supports the new resolution. Not sure this is the case with the new OS X versions.
>>54326689
Still would be running Windows 10 lmao
>>54326711
>blind hatred and misinfo
>>54321218
>>16:10 panels show more lines of code on the screen
last I checked 1600x900 was objectively superior to the 1440x900 that the macbook pro runs at.
>>54326659
>lickable
>>54326696
>my complaint is that OS X doesn't confirm monitor resolution changes
Because it doesn't allow you to change to unsupported resolutions.
>>54326231
that is still not OS X lol...
>>54326734
>blind dick-riding
>>54326781
That's still a Macbook Air.
Running Fedora.
Neckbeards who idolatre Torvalds believe he runs Arch in a Thinkpad.
Based Donald Knuth uses OSX too.
>>54326801
>blind shit-eating
>>54326758
OS X simply changes the resolution to whatever you selected whether or not your monitor supports it. If your monitor doesn't support it, you'll get a black screen forever. In order to fix the problem, you either do a factory reset or get an Apple brand monitor. I find this unacceptable.
I find that most people who really hate OSX have never used it, or have tried it once and because they were used to something else didn't instantly click with it.
I'm neutral between OSs, I think they all have advantages and disadvantages.
Hatred is frankly retarded; I'm guessing its coming from the 14 year olds/30 year old virgins.
>>54326748
You checked wrong.
>>54326817
He hasn't used an Air in a while, last I checked he was using a Pixel
>>54326831
>still blindly dick-riding
lel
>>54326855
>You checked wrong.
are you actually retarded? or just pretending?
>>54326864
>having a latent scat fetish while funding Tim Cock's exotic dildo collection
>>54321218
>being forced to develop on a laptop
what a life working a shithole I guess that won't even buy you dedicated monitors of your size liking for your desk.
>>54326850
No people don't like OSX because it's bad.
>>54326920
You obviously don't make frequent cross country flights during which your company forces you to develop.
>>54326850
Do you need to try the Holocaust in order to know that it's bad?
>>54326869
Extra horizontal pixels are useless unless all you do is watch movies.
>>54326841
Looks like it only displays resolutions that work or else I'd have the same list of options for both displays, would I not?
>>54326973
it's really useful if you have two things up at the same time
which odds are you are going to do if you're programming
>>54325522
>>54326216
Not even him but I have a 5k imac at work, god forbid you set a higher scale for the interface (I just wanted to make better use of the 5k) that everything ui related starts stuttering like mad. Mission control takes like 1 sec to render.
>>54326219
>>54326221
>>54326231
>>54326259
>>54326361
most used OS in the world is still windows by a large margin right?
that automatically means most developers in the world use windows, its juts common sense.
now you can link this guy or that guy that once said he uses OSX but thats still the minority.
>>54326973
>Looks like it only displays resolutions that work or else I'd have the same list of options for both displays, would I not?
Is it an Apple branded monitor that you have? In that case it will always display compatible resolutions. For all other monitors, it'll show every resolution.
>>54327037
>SCEI Monitor
>>54326954
You're right, my company doesn't fly their programmers out across the country on a weekly basis to attend the latest JS convention for top web devs like yours does ;^)
>>54327021
You can't interpolate developer usage by looking at general population usage. Also, Linux runs on far many computers than Windows.
>>54321218
I am a developer that uses OS X currently, to throw in my two cents I am not sure I will stay there much longer. Is the platform good? It has a lot of good elements which is the reason I have bought 4 macbooks over the years, however the OS is getting less stable each release and it is gaining features nobody actually cares about that are making the OS worse, and some long standing gripes of mine have seen really no progress towards being resolved. HFS+ is awful. El Capitan finally 'stabilized'. I deal with apps that freeze and having to remove their application support folder repeatedly to just get them to launch nowadays. The graphics stack is severely lagged behind even Linux now. Getting pretty frustrated with it all and might jump back to Ubuntu. The only reason I started using OS X in the first place was that it was a stable out of box unix experience with fantastic graphics and a wonderful portfolio of commercial/proprietary softwares that worked natively, but those pluses are either diminishing or not as significant against the minuses that are starting to emerge...
>>54327075
Okay, I missed that, but that doesn't disprove my original point. OS X is fucktarded operating system for allowing you to change to incompatible resolutions for non-Apple monitors. Yours being an exceptional case.
>>54327142
Yeah it sucks, my 2 issues with OSX are:
Computer goes to sleep while using Dolphin emulator.
No timer for returning to previous resolution, you need to boot into safe mode right?
>>54326973
>Extra horizontal pixels are useless unless all you do is watch movies.
Found someone whose editor does not support split views!
>>54321218
>get to work
>plug laptop into external monitor
fuck your 16:10
>>54327373
>not being able to transition into digital nomad mode at a moment's notice
It's like you're a cow in a cattle chute.
>>54327485
I could at any moment's notice, but why would I want to? If you're traveling around constantly then your role in the development of software at your company is probably minimal compared to others who are dedicated to it.
>>54326927
>source: me
>>54327574
>versatility is bad
>>54327321
Wrong
> people always asking me 'why is os x shit'
> people always complain to me 'wow why so expensive'
> people are constantly saying ' mac os x for hipster faggots '
wat do, /g/
>>54325713
>>54325845
You know there's another internet community who thinks numbers, statistical tendencies, facts and general logic are only to be considered if they align with your beliefs and to be discarded otherwise.
I think it's called something like tumblr.
>>54323367
You mean for people who hunt and peck. If you know how to touch type and type most of the time because you aren't using a gimped GUI, trackpoint is a lot faster.
>>54326960
Those are obviously two comparable things.
Dear god /g/tardation at its finest.
>>54326231
You know Linus doesn't program anymore, right? He mostly answers emails and yells at other people for being retarded.
>>54326361
MACTARD STATUS:
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>tfw I have a MBP and an X220 in front of me right now
>tfw I'm always using the X220 because it's more comfy
Whoever thought it was a good idea to build the case out of fucking aluminum is retarded.
The keyboard sucks, and the laptop itself is either burning hot or freezing cold. Enjoy having your palms freeze off when you want to look up something quickly in the middle of the night.
>>54327808
That study's conclusion is misleading as it doesn't factor in the time it takes to transition from the home row and back. This is the main benefit of the trackpoint. It also doesn't reveal how much practice the participants had with the trackpoint, which has a steeper learning curve.
If anything, glossing over studies and pulling out convenient statistics is the behavior of tumblr.
>>54321218
> "it just werks"
on ubuntu you can literally type "sudo apt-get install [obscure programmer shit]" and it will get it for you
>>54326361
>>54327958
I can't believe you fags take the time to make these things.
>>54327994
But then you'll update one day and X will stop working. OSX doesn't have that problem.
Or what about when you need word for something?
What about photoshop?
That's what people mean when they say OSX "just werks".
>>54321218
>first day of internship
>handed macbook pro and thunderbolt display
>never used OS X before but w/e
>after 2 weeks realized windows was ass
>never used windows again except for muh gayums
>started using linux
>only use linux and OS X now
>>54328073
>Lying on an anonymous image board just to be contrarian
>>54328083
Not him, but I'm the same way.
>used Windows from 8yo to 23yo
>finally got into programming job 1 month and a bit ago
>they provided macs
>thought it was a meme
>pretended that I didn't look down on it
>use it for a few days to a week
>fell in love
>want to trade both my windows laptops in for my own mac or 2
1 month later, and I'm getting all the tools I need on windows to simulate the OS X dev experience before I buy my one, which I'll be able to afford next month
>>54328159
>samefagging on an anonymous image board just to be contrarian
>>54328204
>samefagging
The other guys uses Linux as well. I've tried Ubuntu, and though I can see the appeal, with little time, I prefer just OS X. Believe what you want though, my blog post is over.
>>54326817
He no longer uses a macbook air. He uses a Sony Vaio now.
>>54328328
A Sony Vaio or a Vaio?
>>54328204
Not the guy above, but why are you so worried about it?
I used windows on my personal machines from 1991 (win 3.0) to 2009. I still use win 7/10 at work.
I'll never buy another Windows machine for myself. I'd love to get a thinkpad, but I'd put some Linux distro on it. Why bother when I can get a solid machine with a BSD already installed, and a good quality of available software.
i've used a macbook for 3 years and i'm really happy with it. it's kind of funny when people who haven't spent more than a few hours using one (if any time at all) tell me i shouldn't like using it. it's even funnier when they still use windows
>>54321218
>mactards wonder why no one takes them seriously when all they ever do is blog about their facebook machines when real people just use their machines
>>54328083
Surely everyone who likes what you don't like is pretending
>>54328073
>after 2 weeks realized windows was ass
well, duh
>>54328083
That's one of the most believable posts I've ever seen on /g/
>>54321218
>trackpad impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel themselves has admitted it's utter shit now and has trashed the design to go back to copying 90's era laptops with solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>relies on pressure sensitive gimmick bullshit
>if you press too lightly or too hard it does something completely different than what you intended
>ultra shit tier zero travel chiclet keyboard
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>even XXXTREME GAMER cancer like razer blade with 4X the CPU/GPU power and 70WHr battery matches it in battery life in same tasks
>gets BTFO by 55WHr Yoga 2 in battery life in same tasks
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been in a laptop not designed by the world's thinnest and lightest gay hipsters
>overheats at the slightest task because abysmal crippled cooling system
>throttles to 800mhz because of chronic overheating problems
>retina meme supposedly for "pros" have have <70% aRGB
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
>macshit is good
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>>54321218
>>allows you to be productive instead of having to play sysadmin everyday to make sure the OS doesn't break
>mactards admit they're so incompetent they break their system every day if let out of their mactoddler playpen
>wonders why they're treated like the technology illiterate morons they are
>>54328649
>every person who uses an OS is exactly the same
>>54328618
>Look Mom I posted it again!
>>54328827
Look Mom I defended Apel again!
>>54326231
It's Fedora, you dumb fuck.
>>54327103
This nigger knows his shit. As an old geezer who has used every computer and OS known to man, OSX is a fucking cancer. It is old as fuck and filled with a shit-ton of bugs. It gets worse with every release. Apple clearly died along with The Steve and is now just a walking corpse. Pity that MS let a shit-skin take over and run Windows into the shitter. Loonix is probably the only OS left worth half-a-fuck and in all honesty it blows dead mice.
>>54329038
>Loonix is probably the only OS left worth half-a-fuck and in all honesty it blows dead mice.
There's always OpenBSD anon
>>54329038
>As an old geezer who has used every computer and OS known to man,
More than likely at a hobbyist's level.
>>54328054
that hasn't happened to me ever
> what is libreoffice writer
> what is gimp
>>54329491
> implying Gimp and Libreoffice are anywhere close to competing with Photoshop and Microsoft Office
>>54329491
That's all good for the average non-babyducked, non-indoctrinated person, but that's less than 1% of 0.001% of the population.
>>54327958
>Oh look three relevant people who don't know how computers work don't use mac
>1 retard uses it as a terminal since he's too braindead to install linux by itself
>the other 2 idiots use some horrible OS that was so bad it didn't make it out of AT&T's Bell Labs
Wow
you really got me m8.
Mac is more than just an OS too, it's the combination of OS, Software, Hardware, and Friendliness all packed together to give the best experience.
It's why even IBM is moving to Macs over shitpads.
>>54321218
>having to play sysadmin everyday to make sure the OS doesn't break
>look mom, i am tech illiterate
>>54330018
>having to build you own installer in order to get the driver for a wifi card because some commie, birdfucking, toejam eating, neckbeard thinks it's against his ideals to have drivers makes you tech-literate.
Get a job, kid.
>>54330120
>mactoddler thinks a 2 minute task is voodoo black magic
Go back to Facebook, mactoddler.
>>54330200
>too stupid to know that i've done it
>thinks it's ok.
>thinks it's being tech literate and not some raving lunatics idealism.
You can't stay in mommy's basement all your life. you will have to learn to pay for your own food someday.
>>54330230
>mactoddler throwing a tantrum to defend his toddler toys
Go back to Facebook kid, this place isn't for you.
>>54321218
on my computer f5 if for changing context, not waiting<m-x begging> for some remote host to send me an update
>>54330120
>all people who aren't as tech illiterate as i don't have a job
How does it feel to know that it's the exact opposite of what you read on iSuckdicks blogs, macfag?
You gonna go cry on tumblr now? While you're at it, best regards to Brianna Wu. Maybe he can install his wi-fi card in 15 rather than 25 minutes if you help him.
>>54325259
Lets just ignore the fact that OSX is in every way cosier to use to quite a lot of people.
>>54325688
But plenty of people have to travel while working. A lot of work gets done in airports senpai.
>>54330324
So get a chinkpads
>>54330273
don't we all owe a personal debt of gratitude to Steve Jobs. After all, M$ et()
>>54326088
>TOOLS
Operative word. There's stuff I use in OSX that thee is no alternatives to on windows OR linux.
I could still get work done without them, but on OSX it gets done faster, simple.
>>54330348
Lel I had a chinkpad. Good machines.
Now I have a MBP.
It's a better machine.
>wey
>>54330303
Looks like I hit a nerve with the 12yo gamergator.
So I was right about the joblessness, right?
>>54330293
afk while my steamed rice '<{0}>might</{0}>'.format() be burning
>people seriously buy those slabs of aluminium and don't compain about the sharp edges
>that shitty trackpad that doesn't let you click at the top
>that shitty keyboard and nonstandard layout
>that crappy hardware
I just don't get it
where can i get an osx iso? im trying to build a hackintosh.
>>54330429
and one day even agnostics will be free
>>54330447
Ask someone on Grindr
>>54330447
install niresh in VMware and create an el capitan unibeast USB from there
>>54330429
They're very durable, don't have any sharp edges, are pretty much standard in terms of keyboard layout and you can click anywhere on the track pad. You don't even have to click it in. You can just tap on it to click like with every other laptop. It's like you've never even used a macbook
>>54330398
Actually 23, studying and working.
But go on telling yourself that people who actually aren't too stupid for tech are jobless.
>>>/facebook/
>>54330486
can i use virtualbox?
>>54330517
Dunno, niresh mavericks didn't work for me so I tried it in VMWare
>>54330534
doesn't vmware cost money though?
>>54330553
http://appnee.com/10-vmware-workstation-pro-12-x-universal-license-keys-for-win-lin/
>>54330553
>>doesn't vmware cost money though?
>mactoddler tech literacy level
>>54330561
appriciate it m8
I don't understand the hate. I can't stand using Windows 10 anymore and only use it out of necessity. OS X has its share of minor annoyances but the overall everyday experience is great.
>>54330563
>>>doesn't vmware cost money though?
>>mactoddler tech literacy level
We all use Parallels.
You probably haven't heard of it.
>>54330358
>>54330646
Agreed. Grew up on Windows, spited OS X because everyone else did, could not help but love it after a few weeks. Reminder not to fall for memes
>>54330513
>He thinks OS/driver installs are tech
Sorry kid, that hasn't been tech for the last 15 years.
With that attitude you'll end up wearing a blue shirt with the word "geek" on it.
>>54330751
>>He thinks OS/driver installs are tech
Everything is and has been for the last 15 years.
But i don't expect you to know since this isn't something you'd typically read on tumblr or facebook. Does your Tripple caramell strawberry frappucino mocca latte taste good while shilling here from your iPaidtoomuch?
>>54330563
sorry hitler
>>54330689
I work at Parallels.
Feels good making mad dosh off morons who buy useless appleshit and realize they need a real OS to get actual work done.
>>54330915
>and realize they need a real OS to get actual work done.
OS X has most of the necessary *nix tools though, even if they are a little behind
>>54330915
That's some good shitposting. 7/10
>>54330957
>but muh UNIX stuff
You can get that on every OS on the market now and OSX lacks a lot of software outside media creation.
You will end up using a VM to get said software and at that point you might as well use Linux.
>>54327814
Numbers please.
>>54331038
I've never used a VM, and it's what we use at my programming job
What said software?
>>54330957
>a decade out of date
>a little behind
The only reason I've seen real developers use macbooks for is for writing crossplatform software because cross compiling for OSX is a bitch, and even then use linux in a vm at fullscreen.
>>54331062
CAE software comes to mind, no, Autocad is good only for basic stuff.
Legacy software.
Office features like VBA and Access.
Visual Studio.
>>54330915
#BTFO
B
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>maccucks will keep buying parallels because installing a different OS is far too advanced for them
>>54331163
You are the worst kind of troll.
And by worst I mean piss-weak.
>>54331152
>Legacy software.
Useless
>Office features like VBA and Access.
Useless as well
>Visual Studio.
Inferior to JetBrains products
>>54331212
>Buttmad OSX user.
>>54331234
>Legacy software is useless
>Excel Macross and Access/MSQL is useless
>Jetbrain's IDEs are industry standard and has the same support as VS
Get a job, dad won't pay for starbucks much longer.
>>54321218
>Good trackpad
When will this meme die?
Clicking and dragging is a fucking nightmare on that piece of shit without a dedicated clicking button. Whenever I'm using mine I have to immediately find a mouse, which takes up half of the USB ports because for some reason there's only 2.
I get so fucking frustrated whenever I'm using the thing, it's like it's trying to go against me every step of the way.
>>54325640
at IBM we have a partnership with Apple and almost every developer has a 3,000 dollar macbook to work on. Its way comfier than the chinkbook
>>54331461
>Clicking and dragging
Why would a dedicated facebook machine need that? It's all 'bout that scrolling with two fingers they copied from synaptics famalam.
>>54331295
All meme responses
>>54330838
Found the PFY lackey that does OS/Driver installs.
>>54331461
>Implying you've actually used one
Yeah, no. This is easily used by tons of people that are dumber than you purport yourself to be.
>>54330915
OS X is a real OS, they use Parallels to run programs made by retarded developers who don't support real operating systems.
>>54330487
if you can afford a macbook, what reason do you have not to buy one other than, "my boss, who is literally a mindless drone, forces me to use windows all-the-time"
>>54321218
I really don't understand this meme
OSX uses ANCIENT versions of the pathetic BSD utils (fuck off retards, the GNU implementations are objectively better) and it's a pain in the ass to install any of them not pre-installed. Also it uses an old as fuck version of bash that they only bothered to update way back when shell shock happened, and have fun trying to use a different shell.
Not to mention being jewed massively on hardware prices and using the faggot UI
Fuck off with your shilling
>>54332374
I can afford one but it's not the best available so that would be my reason.
>>54331869
>OS X is a real OS
Nice meme.
>>54332399
>It isn't
Nice meme
>>54332399
HOLY SHIT CALL THE COPS IT HAS ICON MAGNIFICATION
In all seriousness though you can turn it off if you find it that upsetting. Hell you can just hide the dock and forget it exists.
>>54332384
What? so you any have one computer then... other than your phone, car, router, etc
what exactly do you spend your discretionary income on then?
>>54330915
>Implying I bought Parallels
>Implying I didn't just pirated it off mac-torrents
>>54332431
Actually I have 1 HTPC/server, 1 Audio Engineering PC, 1 Gaming PC at home and 1 Gaming PC at work, and 1 Ultrabook (RBS) and that's just what's active and in use.
>>54332461
I choose to eat dogfood because ignorance is an anathema, whether it is my own, or otherwise
>>54332461
>1 Gaming PC at work
>>54331461
turn on 3 finger drag. i don't click the trackpad on mine at all
>>54332577
>"work"
It's the place he hides when his mom has Steve over. Steve is such an a-hole, I swear.
>>54332534
What the fuck does this autistic sentence mean?
>>54332577
Haha yeah it's basically just a 750 or something in a regular workstation that allows me to play everything on medium settings in my spare time. The industry I'm in can have some days where there is a lot of downtime.
>progamming
Unless you're a Pajeet, you're quite literally wasting your time.
>>54332635
No it's work like at my job. Also I have my own house with my wife and my mom is single and lives with my sjw sister who's worthless.
>>54332637
which industry? i like downtime
>>54326166
You mean vaporware. Also that's not even what vaporware means. Vaporware describes pretty much any other Linux display server
>>54332696
I'm going to guess he's a blue collar skilled tradesman in a union shop living in the rustbelt.
"Downtime" means production is running.
>>54332696
It really depends on where you end up but trucking/freight. Some places have no downtime and other places have a lot sometimes both at the same place just depends on what you're doing.
>>54326283
>>54326202
What year are you guys from?
>>54332714
Heh I am in the midwest but no I work in the city by an airport and don't do anything trade related.
>>54332637
human lives are actually worth more than the valuation that the floor function of our current economic system is capable of producing for them
>>54331246
>that posture
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>54332760
to put it another way, un-necessary ignorance hurts everybody
>>54332760
a decade ago, people might have called it "the economic potential of the long tail" or something similar
>>54331862
We're talking about work though, not normies. I use it for Logic Pro and dragging and dropping notes is a painful experience. The effort required to "click" with the touchpad increases the closer it gets to the keyboard, meaning clicking something and dragging it downwards requires slamming my thumb down till it hurts. Since I'm also pressing down really hard, the friction makes it only even more difficult. I do my coding on my other computer thankfully but I imagine I'd have the same issue whenever I want to select sections of code.
>>54333079
You sound like a girl
I use it for programming at work. They're pretty much provided to everyone at the company, not just programmers
>>54321340
i can program an arduino, therefore your argument is invalid.
>>54321218
>/dev/null.
They placed a (dot . ) in a file path. Are they retarded. My systems says fuck off retarded apple engineers.
>>54333121
Not everyone is a savage like you. End your sentences properly
>>54333121
It's called the English language, prajeet.
>>54332382
brew and macports would like a word with you.
>>54321218
>People wonder why OS X is so popular for programmers and developers nowadays
i work as a software engineer i never see programmers or software engineers writing code in macs.
>>54333182
Software engineer here. Everyone in every department uses macs here.
In any case, if you visit Google/Facebook/etc, you will see professionals using it
>>54333198
And IBM.
http://www.jamfsoftware.com/blog/mac-ibm-zero-to-30000-in-6-months/
>>54333136
Perhaps you could contemplate a human creating structured sentences using statements.
If you are unsure about what that implies it is simple.
Rhetorical questions, invalid fact statement, and finally an opinionated statement of me explaining how my system has said fuck off.
It is rather easy to understand if you were to think of them are broken statements. They explained a piece of the story that no other cunts even said.
I also suggest that you guys get a job. Being unemployed while Indians earn more then you is rather said.
>Fuck off to woman studies
>>54323367
>people used to touchpads are faster on touchpads
No way!
>>54333217
>If you are unsure about what that implies it is simple.
Use commas, you fucking retard
>>54321218
Only if you are iOS/Mac App Store developers you stay in OSX, but unix features are useless for average dev (fsck -y, sudo period monthly,etc).
And nobody make iOS/Mac Store exclusive software anymore, when Android-Win10 have 97% of marketshare
>>54333245
Nah.
I would rather do statements.
>periods conclude a statement.
Why the fuck should I respect you cunts by creating error checked sentences. I mean most of you are NEETs that sit on your fat asses and complaining about operating systems.
Fuck respecting unemployed trash.
