Apple, as a tech company, has progressed the industry more than any other business.
Why all the hate?
Lolno the only thing "innovative" they really did were the original Mac and the iPhone....then everyone else pefected them. Apples a joke. Horrible closed down OSes, overpriced hardware etc
>>54298843
>Apple, as a meme company, has regressed the industry more than any other business.
Fixed.
>>54298843
heh
>>54298865
It's time to Make Apple Great Again!
>>54298843
Mostly because they are one of the corporations introducing big money into the industry.
>inb4 BUT MICROSOFT-
one of.
one of many, but still one of them.
Are you kidding? They drove it backwards by turning focus from computers as a tool for work to computers as toys that should be locked down and controlled by the company that sold them.
>BUT THEY POPULARIZED HIGH DPI SCREENS XD
and thin laptops with planned obsolescence!
>>54298843
Le sour grapes.
>>54298860
Neither iPhone nor Mac were original, just a better version from what people had before. And it's still the same way.
>Horrible closed down OSes
Who cares about MUH OPEN SORES, iOS and OSX both do their jobs better than any other OS. Sure they don't support as much hardware and clearly not meant for neckbeards who rice their pcs but why would a normal person care about that?
>overpriced hardware
iMacs are the most affordable all in ones with decent screens, iPhone SE is dirt cheap while 6s is priced like any other flagship, Macbooks are priced pretty competitively. What would be the overpriced hardware you talk about?
>>54298843
Blind hatred and misinfo
>>54298860
Prime example of the misinfo. iOS is pretty locked down but OS X is not.
>>54299032
>iOS and OSX both do their jobs better than any other OS
>>54299013
>thin laptops
Thank fuck, now you can travel with a laptop without even noticing it and don't look like a sperg when using it.
> planned obsolescence
Proof? Not being able to repair it got nothing to do with planned obsolescence, good look repairing your desktop monitor.
Fucking love my rMBP, idk why there's so much hate for the brand.
It might have to do with most of the people who use it thinking they are so much better by having it, kinda how PC users are smug to console users.
>>54299032
>thousands of dollars for a piece of shit laptop that thermal throttles under normal use.
It's almost like the screen isn't the only thing that matters.
>>54299088
>I'm too stupid to fix a monitor so I shouldn't have a chance to fix a computer either
>>54299108
> thermal throttles under normal use
Pretty mediocre shitposting and you forgot to add 800Mhz !!!11 to make it look more credible.
>>54299117
So how many people actually can fix their monitors? Say replacing the LED driver ICs? In what scenario would it be a better investment of time and money than just buying a new one?
>>54299181
No clue but regardless just because one thing is difficult to repair doesn't mean it's okay to make other easily repairable things unrepairable.
Apple is good at stealing ideas and then marketing them well
I think a lot of it is misinformation. I used to hate Apple with a passion as well. I think that their mobile products are the best out there, since you almost never have to troubleshoot or do anything with them, even if it means trading variety for stability and ease of use.
I hear alot about how they have planned obsolescence, but I actually think that Macbooks have the longest lifespan of any laptop you can get today. I always see plenty of macbooks from 2011 still in use with the newest OSX on there without any problems at all and I hardly see a regular laptop that can get that much use. I think the one thing that gets me is how Apple consistently gets flack about yearly hardware releases, when all other flagship phone makers do exactly that, and even have them at the same prices, with lower quality build quality and materials! You can still upgrade an iphone 4s from 2011 or so to the newest iOS and I doubt there's any phonemaker out there except maybe the Nexus devices that are officially support that long.
tldr they're alright.
>>54299133
Let's see your core temps then, I know my 2015 MemeBook at work gets up 90C just from web browsing.
>>54299224
>other easily repairable things
That approach with laptops lead to huge desktop-like bricks, and even these days you would get a much smaller laptop with longer battery life by soldering everything on a board. It's simply a better way to make a product. We're even ignoring the costs.
The choice is a more portable machine with longer battery life vs repairability, it'd would be silly to go for the latter, as seen by phone manufacturers too. Laptops are simply evolving.
One could argue about the repairability of their iMacs but all-in-ones are generally a bitch to repair either way.
>>54299290
And actually improving on them, as seen with touch ID or finally a pen with tilt on a mainstream device.
>>54299338
Got any specific website in mind? Test length? Any other methodology I should keep in mind?
Sounds like fun.
>>54299290
>Apple is good at stealing ideas and then marketing them well
Far, far better at this than Microsoft ever was.
And Microsoft had Apple to steal from.
The only form of marketing MS knew was lockin.
>>54299388
Browsing Newegg's site should get it nice and toasty. Should only take 5 minutes or so.
>>54299339
>That approach with laptops lead to huge desktop-like bricks
Yeah 15 years ago. Now you can have both.
>you would get a much smaller laptop
You get a thinner one, but muh thinness is a fucking meme. Depth is the least important factor in a laptop's portability regarding size. The important ones are width and height, and Apple's got larger bezels than they did over a decade ago.
>with longer battery
A slightly thicker serviceable laptop also means more battery.
>It's simply a better way to make a product
Yeah, nah.
>The choice is a more portable machine with longer battery life vs repairability
Tell me anon, how do soldered components magically make the battery last longer?
>but all-in-ones are generally a bitch to repair either way.
My 2008 iMac's been quite easy to service, there was no reason for Apple to change it.
>>54299463
Well, this was boring.
>>54299463
>>54299680
Very boring.
Passively cooled 2015 Memebook by the way.
>ITT: Applel sheep vs. Freeturds
Yes, I have a 2006 MacBook Pro that still works. Planned obsolescence is bullshit. If Apple wanted to force everyone to buy the latest products, they would only give out iOS updates for a year. Instead, you get 3-4 years of security fixes and support for your favorite applications. People love to complain about their devices slowing down. That's because each update sacrifices a little bit of speed and battery for better security and useful features. In my opinion this is much better than allowing a carrier to sit around with their thumbs up their butts daydreaming while people are vulnerable shit like stagefright. Android sucks for the average user. They don't care about ricing and they like one click solutions. Very few people on /g/ seem to understand this.
>>54299680
>>54299699
lol, just sitting on 2 different web pages won't do it. Bonus points if your Memebook is on a wooden table instead of glass.
>>54299739
Oh look it's the glass desks suck meme
>>54299524
>but muh thinness is a fucking meme
For you. It's pretty nice to have a good looking a laptop, specially once you drop over 1000 on it.
Though sure, from purely functionality POV you're correct.
>A slightly thicker serviceable laptop also means more battery.
Or you could get a thinner one with same battery life, by giving up serviceability.
>Yeah, nah.
It sure is for me, and for the tons of people who buy them.
>how do soldered components magically make the battery last longer?
They take less space, giving you more room for bigger battery, which makes it last longer.
>there was no reason for Apple to change it.
Customer demand for thinner devices. Besides, it also obviously saves them costs.
>>54299739
Hey, I was scrolling myself to death. Could try something like 60fps jewtube, because web browsing just won't do or any other task you suggest. Does your memebook run windows?
(Also had 30+ tabs open in my main browser, 2 Libre Office documents and muh iTunes, not like it makes a difference)
Also wooden desk here ... glass is too damn annoying to clean.
>>54298843
Because they are overpriced and they take advantage of their consumers.
But we can see now that they're a dying company, no company can be that large without having a huge fall..
They just released their quarterly and they've taken a huge loss. plus one of their biggest investors pulled out pushing APPL to go down 9% in a day. Its going to be a long time before they push out of 94 dollar range.
>>54298843
no that was the porn industry.
if it werent for them wed be 20 years behind in webrelated technologies like htlm5 and storage related technologies like hard drives.
you can literally thank ron jeremy for internet porn. even if he is a filthy kike.
>>54299834
The guy did it because he is afraid of Chinks taking control of the market, which would affect any other tech company.
Also he said himself that the Apple stock is hugely undervalued.
>>54299818
>It's pretty nice to have a good looking a laptop, specially once you drop over 1000 on it.
I agree
>Or you could get a thinner one with same battery life, by giving up serviceability.
>They take less space, giving you more room for bigger battery, which makes it last longer.
Or I could have serviceability and battery life. It’s not like we can only have extremes, laptops exist between paper thin and brick thickness.
>Customer demand for thinner devices.
No such thing.
>it also obviously saves them costs.
No shit
>>54299834
>They just released their quarterly and they've taken a huge loss.
Yes, 6% is HUGE.
The numbers were in line with Apple's guidance from 3 months ago.
Anyone who took notice of that guidance could have made a cool 6% by shorting Apple.
The recent quarter didn't measure up to the Best Ever quarter. Wow.
>>54299880
>Or I could have serviceability and battery life.
Like what? I don't recall any high resolution screen laptop that matches rMBP battery life without being thicker, and it's still on fucking Broadwell.
Whether "thicker" is the same as "brick" obviously depends on your preferences.
>No such thing.
There are sale figures, any other premium laptop brand is taking hard. Of course Macbooks got other benefits but having a nice, thin design is definitely a factor that positively affects their sales.
Besides, companies invest in market research, if repairability would be a huge factor, they would make more laptops that you can repair and upgrade. As an example from phone market, Samsung brought micro SD back because many their customers wanted it back.
>>54300029
>Like what? I don't recall any high resolution screen laptop that matches rMBP battery life without being thicker, and it's still on fucking Broadwell.
Wouldn't know, I've been out of the laptop game for a few years. I'm content with my Latitude XT2. All I'm saying is that serviceability and being a brick are mutually inclusive.
>>54300103
*are not
>>54300103
Well, as I said, it depends on your perception too. 5-6 years ago I'd call the rMBP thin and slick, these days I'd say it's big, given much slimmer and smaller alternatives. So something like a Latitude XT2 would be an absolute brick for me now.
A much worse development would be the killing of 16:10 I'd say. Not being able to repair a laptop once it's needed (which isn't that often from personal experience) is one thing, being stuck with 16:9 meme because of muh movies ... that's pretty bad.
>>54300627
The Latitude XT2 is not a brick. This is not an opinion, it's a fact. Bricks are far thicker.
>A much worse development would be the killing of 16:10 I'd say
That and 4:3 I can agree with. The push for thin widescreen laptops is one of the stupidest fucking trends I've ever seen.
>>54299714
>average user iToddler who's afraid of 2+ button devices and CLI thinks he's even welcome much less belongs on any technology forum
