If you're like RMS, but with money, but this box.
It has all-open firmware and doesn't run Windows because it's a powerpc.
>>54280873
buy*
>>54280873
What does it run? OpenSPARC?
url: https://www.raptorengineering.com/TALOS/prerelease.php
https://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc/
>>54280895
no, POWER8
>>54280873
>that dogshit renderjob
Eeyup. Definitely opensource.
>>54280873
>$3,700 USD.
Just how good is powerPC these days?
>workstation
>power
>US$ 3700
lol, no!
>>54280991
Gamecube tier, 2007 c2d ipc
>>54281077
KEK
/g/ is going to love this.
The more usless and hipster the hardware the better.
Unless its Android Apple or arm
>>54281100
nvm power8 has more than keklake ipc but cant into high clocks
>>54281125
eat dick
>>54281125
Why is the IPC so low?
>>54281143
explain
>>54281164
>800w
800 FUCKING WHAT?
800 fucking whats thats what
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Michael_Gschwind/publication/271706612_IBM_POWER8_processor_core_microarchitecture/links/553848d30cf2239f4e79a6ad.pdf
>>54281143
not kidding dude
>>54281147
dont reply to him you faggot you are not me
>>54281194
But if i am not me then who am i?
>buying a wii-u
>>54281164
>800W
What the hell
Why would I get this thing when I can get a dual 2GHz PowerMac G5 for €100? Same architecture, OpenFirmware and I can just install GNU/Linux on it.
>>54281187
Why doesnt some nutter stick this CPU in a console.
Get a low power 8 core and put a Polaris GPU in the fucker.
Bam new 360 last 10+ years call it the 1080
>>54281164
>800W
holy shit
this is the first time ever that i could possibly afford a chip and not afford its upkeep
heard of it.
don't have money tho, so oh well
>>54281147
Comparing things like IPC and clock across ISAs and architectures almost never gives an accurate picture of anything. While yes, Xeons have indeed taken over the server world, that doesn't mean that POWER8 is somehow magically made of underpowered garbage. It comes down to specifics. For instance, the POWER ISA has motherfucking dedicated DFP instructions [0], so anything compiled for it that can take advantage of this can outperform x86, which does not. Also, The OpenPOWER initiative is generating some impressive dedicated coprocessors and accelerators [1].
If you are buying this for "The Freedoms", you might not care about that, and that's okay, your money, your choice. If you aren't buying it for that, but you have a use case where POWER might be advantageous, then cool, your money, your choice. If you don't care, and can't think of a reason you would care, then it's probably not for you. No big deal, no one is trying to push something you don't need. Buy a Xeon if you need a workstation and just move on with your life.
[0] All those things you read about how imprecise floating point can be, or how it's always rounded/approximated are only half the story. They have a standard for avoiding that, but no one cared except IBM, who sells it to banks, who need it and can afford it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_floating_point
[1] If you actually need some of this tech you already know you do, but it's damn cool to read about even if you don't. Dedicated boards for Graph Analysis and NoSQL engines? As funky as it is awesome: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10240/several-capi-accelerators-for-openpower-revealed
>>54281356
Sorry, clarification in my wording:
>If you are buying this for "The Freedoms", you might not care about [cool ISA features], and that's okay...
>If you aren't buying it for ["The Freedom"], but you have a use case where the POWER ISA might be advantageous, then cool...
>>54280873
>4x Internal USB 3.0
>>54281164
>800W
Jesus Christ.
I can't wait
>>54281245
G5 maxes at 4c/4t, this thing's baseline CPU is 8c/64t. Not to mention the G5 is based on POWER 4 while Power 8 is Power 8. Don't get me wrong, G5s are great machines, but this thing fucking wrecks it, and that's just talking CPUs.
>>54280873
>@CURRENTYEAR
>PowerPC
come on OP.
>>54280873
I kind of want it but have no fucking idea what I'd use it for
>>54284977
>implying there's anything wrong with this
I can't afford it at the moment, hope other people buy them.
Also for people concerned about performance look at the price of the fastest power8 cpu vs intel xeon, intel is charging over $2000 more for basically an X86 tax.
Quite a bit of 3d rendering and other cpu heavy programs are on linux, a decent power workstation could quickly become quite popular and piss intel off.
>>54285811
>Quite a bit of 3d rendering and other cpu heavy programs are on linux, a decent power workstation could quickly become quite popular and piss intel off.
Precisely right. It would at least force them to keep prices "reasonable", even if not entirely "cheap".
In fact, if you look at the members of the OpenPOWER foundation, you can see a list of tech companies who build or buy lots and lots of Xeon servers, and who have a huge interest in ensuring Intel does not become a complete monopoly with freedom to charge them more. Examples include Google, Rackspace, Nvidia, Cirrascale, Penguin and a whole crapload of Universities.
>>54281164
Power8? More like Power800 eh ehe eheh EHEHEHEHEHEHE
>>54284977
PowerPC on OP post are ambigous.
It's like saying you buy AMD CPU for Intel compatible PC.
Not wrong but confusing.
IBM POWER8 should be under POWER architecture.
Both PowerPC and IBM POWER8 under POWER architecture CPU.
Power8 has some ridiculous single thread integer performance.
>>54280873
what will it be running for BIOS or UEFI?
>>54286507
Probably neither
>over 3 thousand dollerydoos
>no onboard sas
>>54281251
because coddled new devs cant into non x86 architecture
>>54281164
Fuck, man
>>54280967
Fuck off brony
>>54281251
Not POWER8 but Power Architecture CPU already used in console.
PS3 Cell CPU
Xbox360 Xenon XCPU
I guess POWER8 are too expensive, too power hungry and console doesn't need such fast processor for games.
>>54280873
What were you thinking TALOS marketing department? A bunch of poor autists on 4chan gonna pay 3700USD for outdated and underpowered technology? Also it is not completely open.
>Although an effort will be made to provide nearly complete Talos™ schematics to purchasers of the Talos™ mainboard, several pages will be redacted on the public schematic due to mandatory NDAs with a few of our support silicon vendors
>>54281356
>posts long, informative, interesting reply
thank you anon, I love you.
>>54281356
Saving /g/, one post at a time.
>>54280873
>3k to get worse perfomance than a 29€ mobo + atom integrated
>rms has no money
>>54286485
Kek
>>54288338
Don't forget the GameCube, Wii, and Wii U
>>54286507
coreboot, or IBM's open firmware (note the space between open and firmware)
>>54281186
Are you like, 10?
>>54281356
>banks
>floating point
Only a retard would use floating point for currencies. Either use a fixed point representation or just count in cents.
>>54280873
>>54280991
>>54284977
>>54286489
>>54288338
>being this fucking underage
POWER =/= PowerPC
>>54293934
Could you care to explain in detail, since you seem to know so much about financial computing?
>>54293994
Basically always use the long datatype. Multiply all your numbers by a constant factor like 1000. i. e. $1.99 will be stored as 1990. On multiplication divide the result by 1000*1000. It's that simple.
>>54293982
Which arch would you be running on power8?
>>54280873
>internal USB3
for what purpose
>>54293474
800 wats
>>54293934
>Only a retard would use floating point for currencies. Either use a fixed point representation or just count in cents.
You're not wrong, of course, but it seems like you didn't read >>54281356 carefully. It refers to decimal floating-point, not binary floating-point. You sound like you know what you're talking about in the general sense, so you should understand that difference. If not, be prepared to learn something cool. The implementation even has its own standard defined in a 2008 revision to IEEE 754.
>>54295106
PPC64. Both PowerPC and POWER descend from a common ancestor and share the same instruction set, but they're different chips and POWER8 (or really any post-603e POWER chip) should not be considered or treated as a direct descendant of the more mainstream PowerPC chips found in Macs and Amiga reboots.
>>54297204
So what's the distinction between a Power 8 CPU being PPC64 and a PowerPC CPU that's PPC64 such as the 970?
>>54297815
Other than a more advanced feature set that comes with a newer architecture, "real" POWER chips are more optimized for their bread and butter financial/database applications with shit like hardware crypto acceleration.
>>54281164
>800W
>>54299717
Congrats, you can read!
>doesn't run Windows
Then why would I want a useless piece of shit like this.
>>54299771
The best computers are the ones that can't run Windows.
>>54299784
It's too late for April fool's, mate.
>>54299771
>Then why would I want
You wouldn't. Other people would.
Because we have different needs.
Because we have different lives.
Welcome to everyday existence.
Please enjoy your stay.
>>54299794
How is that relevant? I'm not pranking anyone.
>>54299771
If you actually read the thread, you would know what it could be used for, but judging by your tone,
>a useless piece of shit like this.
you either need to get better bait, or go back to /v/.
I've had a hard on for the idea of setting up an entire os stack from firmware to kernel to userspace.
>>54300818
I want to write an OS in Forth and run it in Open Firmware
>>54301050
Good call. Forth is God's language.
>>54301085
It wasn't really because I chose Forth as much as because OpenFirmware is a Forth shell, but after looking into it it's a pretty awesome language.
On a side note I really wish OpenFirmware was the standard. With it expansion cards can carry platform agnostic drivers, let alone the other neat features.
>>54293982
PowerPC are under Power (Performance Optimization With Enhanced RISC) Architecture.
Power Architecture CPU:
- The original old Power CPU
- PowerPC (Power Performance Computing)
- PowerPC-AS (PowerPC-Advanced Series)
- POWERn (A series of high-end microprocessors built by IBM using different combinations of POWER, PowerPC, PowerPC-AS and Power instruction sets.)
On linux ppc and power run under different arch though.
>>54301050
Fucking sucked the thought trail right out of my head. I'm gonna legitimately save up for this board and make it happen
>>54301687
I was just going to use a PowerPC Mac, I guess you could go that route too
>>54301434
they are indeed but that doesn't mean you should compare the old mainline PowerPC shitbox chips to the real big iron like that, which is what that post is saying in a poorly articulated matter
