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Linux aside, Can we at least agree that OSX is superior t0 Wincuck
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Linux aside,
Can we at least agree that OSX is superior t0 Wincuck 10?
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No. They're both cancer.
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So long as you don't care about games
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No
We couldn't even agree that the sun will rise in the morning, let alone on this.
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bbut muh gaymes
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What non-preferance objective reason is there for os x over win 10?

Win 10 has
>more apps
>more support for various hardware
>muh gaymes
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OSXs only benefit is the terminal
Which is soon to be negated by Bash on windows
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>>54270785
If you have privacy concerns windows 10 is the worst OS out there.
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>>54270785
>facebook machine OS better than windows 10
lol epic

let's go buy an overpriced faggot toaster to have muh unix and do literally nothing with it

>inb4 hackintosh
yea nah
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Finding myself switching to Apple for all my devices to avoid Google/MS botnets.

Need to get around to switching from Gmail to Proton mail.

Still have a windows 10 PC but it's running peer block and I don't use it much.
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>>54270898
>Proton mail.
Good goy
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>>54270898
>apple cares about my privacy
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>>54270898
>apple isnt botnet
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>>54270815
Only games I'm lacking access to in Steam that I want are the 4x strategys.

>>54270856
> Windows 10 interface is ugly and inconsistent as shit
> Windows 10 botnet
> Forced windows 10 installation in 2016
> Forced upgrades you cannot opt out of
> DISGUSTING icons
> uses your free bandwidth to distribute updates to other users nearby you
> Windows 10 resets your default applications to built-in Microsoft's ones after each major update
> A newly created user profile weighs over 300MB


>>54270867
> muh ubuntu on a VM
how performant
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>>54270890
>facebook machine
windows: WHY NOT SHARE THIS, CHECK OUT THESE GREAT NEW APPS ADVERTISED IN YOUR SIDEBAR, WHY NOT CONNECT ME TO YOUR XBOX LIVE ACCOUNT SO YOUR FRIENDS CAN SHOOT THOSE MEMES OF YOURS IN HALO
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>>54270916
They certainly give more of a shit than anyone else. They are willing to resist the FBI and unlike W10, OSX doesn't phone home every ten seconds and unlike Google they're not reading my email.
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>>54270890
Let's buy a 4000$ gay-me machine to post gay porn, play minecraft on ultra setting, mod the shit out of a game to not play it, stalk grils on facebook, post dicks on /b/ as an anon, watch animus and other stupid shit that won't benefit man kind
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>>54270951
>>54270957
>macfags
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>>54270890
>do literally nothing with it
Not discussing hipster coffeeshop fags here, OSX is more suited to most kinds of web/software development than windows is.
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>>54270974
Windows 10 mother fucker
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>>54270923
>ugly
preferance
>botnet
so is apple
>forced update
were comparing osx to win10, win10 doesnt force you to upgrade to win10
>forced upgrades you cannot opt out of
you can
>disgusting icons
preferance
>uses bandwith
turn it off
>resets your defaults
never happened to me and ive been using it for almost a year now
>a new user profile is 300mb
storage actually doesnt cost as much as apple tells you it does
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>>54270823
The sun clearly does rise in the morning. The time of the morning depends on the timezone which is related to when the sun comes up, which happens when there is no earth between the surface of the earth at the specific location and the sun anymore.

This is always the case in most countries, but on the north and south pole the sun might not always come up in the morning. The sun night not rise, or the sun night be up throughout the entire morning.
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>>54270997
Kys winfag
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OSX is the best of both worlds, if you do /gd/ work or /gd/ related work.
All the good terminal applications from *nix, but also Creative Suite and tons of other (cheap) media editing software.

My daily driver will still forever run Gentoo, but my workstation runs OSX.
Also, while it's irritating that you can't just replace the meh-tier window manager, window management and general workflow is a lot better than the pile of shit that is Windows.

GNU/Linux > OSX >>>>>> Windows
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>>54271038

Yea the El Capitan 'fullscreen/splitscreen' mode is utter dogshit.
Bettertouchtool and spectacle are pretty good solutions for the window management.
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>>54271038
I love how you can preview music by clicking the file and pressing space. I wish windows could do that.

>Their trackpads are superior.
>time machine works unlike windows
>UI looks pretty
How I miss my mac


Anyone know how to hackintosh on a Lenovo Y700?
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>>54270997

>ugly
>disgusting icons
>preferance
Widely complained about and breaks basic usability rules

> botnet
> so is apple
What osx features are botnet?

>forced update
No but it is forced on you in the first place, if you want to go that route then were comparing osx to win10 dont mention macbooks.
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexperience/2015/10/29/making-it-easier-to-upgrade-to-windows-10/

>uses bandwith
>turn it off
Turns back on every background update.

>resets your defaults
>never happened to me and ive been using it for almost a year now
Fair enough, Ive seen/heard numerous complaints abut it.

>a new user profile is 300mb
> storage actually doesnt cost as much as apple tells you it does
No shit, still shows terrible management of memory on the development side, and passes the cost onto the user.
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>>54271074
> This and hundreds of other microinteractions that make day to day use great
> Plus a robust terminal system for when shit needs to get done
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>>54271000
*sigh*
The Sun never sets or rises, it stays the same distance over the Earth throughout it’s daily/annual journeys around. The appearance of rising and setting is all based on the law of perspective on plane surfaces. The Sun and Moon spotlights are perpetually hovering over and parallel to the surface of the Earth.

From our vantage point, due to the Law of Perspective, the day/night luminaries appear to rise up the Eastern horizon, curve peaking high overhead, and then sink below the Western horizon. They do not escape to the underside of the Flat-Earth as one might imagine, but rather rotate concentric clockwise circles around the circumference from tropic to tropic.
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>>54270785
I have both and I never use OS X. Because OS X is just eye candy, mah designer interface shit, and not so much productivity-friendly. I get more shit done in Windaws than in OS X. The whole OS X just feels like it was made by a huge raging faggot designer who prioritises looks over function and he wants everything to look comfy and brightly coloured. Meh, I'd rather use a more understated UI and be able to focus more on what I'm doing than on constantly thinking "omg this looks so nice, foggy glass effects everywhere".
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>>54270785

Windows 7 >>>>>>>>> everything else
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>>54270975
sure kiddo
>muh gay apps

>>54270994
>/b/
>/trash/
>chrome logged in
you're a macfag on the inside
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>>54270785
for OSX to be better than windows it would need to be supported on something other than cheap shoddy foxconn hardware
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>>54271238
>muh gay apps?
what does that even mean? that for some reason apps on OSX that aid development are gay? Or that developing apps for the highest profit mobile app ecosystem is somehow gay?
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>>54270785
Windows
>OUR NEW OS IS A RESPONSIVE OS THAT WORKS ON PHONES TOO
Windows phone fails
>OH WELL LETS KEEP THE MOBILE INTERFACE
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>>54271122
fucking this.

anon you legend!
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OS X in dual boot with W10, yay or nay?

>Using Adobe Suite, FL Studio, doing web design and development, currently stuck with cloud IDE because of one small Rails project.

The "problem" is that I can install it only on the 5400 RPM HDD, and aside from Rails, all the other programs are working fine and I don't know if there is a reason to install them all over again on OS X. But I enjoy nice UI and would like to try out some Mac specific programs and IDEs.
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Windows 10 is far better. Faster, more responsive, more third-party program compatibility, hardware cheaper too.
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>>54271151
Relax bro
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>Use Windows for 16 years
>Lotta games, everytime I try to get away from it to try linux I get dragged back into that stupid shit
>Try hackintosh
>No more games motherfucker
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>>54271151
>mah designer interface shit, and not so much productivity-friendly.

Decent design is productivity friendly. It doesn't keep you distracted like the horrible mess that is windows 10

I mean when I have to take my eyes out because the edges of the fonts are pretty much cutting them I'm in no way willing to read shit
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>>54270994
Can you hide the borders of the windows and that whole 10% of screen you're losing with that horrendously, vomit inducing toolbar firefox has?
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>>54270785

Honestly since windows went full spying it probably is.

At least it has a command line. Can you use vim on there? I should make a hackintosh. If only just for experience admining mac.
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>>54271613
>Windows 10 is far better. Faster, more responsive
Not true at all. I hackintosh'd my machine four days ago and the difference in speed compared to windows 10 is abysmal. Everything opens faster, heck, even Firefox renders webpages faster than it did on Windows.
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>>54270823
>>54271000
>>54271122
>not knowing about the time cube
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>>54270898

Apple is a botnet anon. At least google is a little more up front about it. If I log into my google account I can see a map of everywhere my phone has been for a year and get creeped out Apple hides it from you.
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>>54270785
>not having STDs aside can we all agree that having HIV is superior to having AIDS?

Fuck off
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>>54271849
Which gpu do you have?

In my case, I have a 280x and the UI slightly stutters at random times. While that happens with Gnome 3 or KDE, doesn't happen on Windows. I love Hackintosh but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's faster. And shit, I tried every little fucking thing. I tried switching system definitions, injecting different framebuffers, flashing different GPU bioses with different clock speeds, deleting and modifying random kexts here. It's been kind of a nightmare just to get rid of that tiny stutter.

Like I swear to god if it's because I'm using a single 8gb stick of RAM and upgrading to 16 dual channel would fix it, I would go buy that shit right the fuck now, but I don't really think it's that.
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What will amaze me every time is apple users.

Linux users doesn't totally trust the open source movement and won't use some distributions that can be suspicious (ubuntu with the amazon shit for example)

Windows users knows that microsoft spies on them with windows 10 and just accept, and hope / think it will not be harmful to them.

But apple users are truly the best.
Apple software is known to have vulnerabilities, they have some weird policies of not fixing security breach, they are part of prism, and think the apple encryption ; which is proprietary ; is secure.
I don't know how apple managed it. I'm not sure if it's because their user base is stupid or if it's a question of marketing.
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>>54271965
Linux users are blissfully ignorant about the fact that using something like Debian or Arch isn't going to keep them safe from the NSA. Some of them even believe in snowden being a good sort of person.

Windows users have this thing where they think that they can just download some program and spend an entire morning using random scripts and removing updates will keep them safe from microsoft, when what they are essentially doing putting fake switches all over the place. Kinda like that firefox thing a while ago.

Apple users are also pretty ignorant but don't ever pretend there's not a massive amount of retardation regarding security when it comes to OSX / Windows / GNU/Linux.
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>>54271849
>shilling this hard
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>>54271122
Which means *essentially the same thing *. This rotation from our perspective is how rising is defined, you can't disprove a destiny on by explaining how it works from another perspective, that's bullshit.
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>>54271953
I have a 5870 driving two displays and an old 8500GT driving a third display. I cannot notice any stuttering at all. Also, everything worked out of the box, except for LAN, which only involved installing one kext.
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>>54272052
Urgh, round earthers...
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I could easily live with OS X, but I could never live with Windows.
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>>54272071
I find it unbelievable that you acknowledge that perspective is a thing and fail to see that the rising of the sun is defined from a human perspective.
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>>54272070
Damn. Not even when switching between desktops?

Cause I'm beginning to think my GPU has jack shit to do with it. It's gonna turn out to be the RAM or something.
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>>54270785
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>54271020
Of course he uses Windows.
Are you saying that this Linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ? As in, without a boot disk, without any drivers, and without any services ?

That sounds preposterous to me.

If it were true (and I doubt it), then companies would be selling computers without a windows. This clearly is not happening, so there must be some error in your calculations. I hope you realise that windows is more than just Office ? Its a whole system that runs the computer from start to finish, and that is a very difficult thing to acheive. A lot of people dont realise this.

Microsoft spent $19 billion and many years to make the Windows that we know today, so it does not sound reasonable that some new alternative could just snap into existence overnight like that. It would take billions of dollars and a massive effort to achieve. IBM tried, and spent a huge amount of money developing OS/2 but could never keep up with Windows. Apple has been trying to create their own system for years, but it never came close to what Windows is.

Its just not possible that a freeware like the Linux could be extended to the point where it runs the entire computer from start to finish, without using some of the more critical parts of windows. Not possible.

I think you need to re-examine your assumptions.
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>>54270785
the biggest thing for me with OSes is the window management.

Windows 10 has subtly improved it in ways that make is amazing, better than any linux distro I have used.

OS-X well their isn't really any window management desu, and thats why it sucks.
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>>54272151
>>54272183
Here comes the pasta
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>>54272207
You're right their OSx has shitty window management. There is free software out to rectify it but that shouldn't be left up to the users.
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>>54271874
Go kill yourself tripfag.
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>>54272149
No. None at all. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I have pretty much the same hardware as a 2008 Mac Pro except for the northbridge (P45 vs. 5400), including the Xeon CPU. What's your board?
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>>54271874
this msg was brote to u by SOL INVICTUS
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>>54270785
>applel botnet PLUS ms botnet
>superior to just ms botnet
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>>54272386
An MSI h81m-e33. Cheap stuff, though I heard it was good enough for the rest of my build. My processor is an i5 4460.

I have also done some tests with different things like using onboard graphics (intel 4600, it was really really laggy, I think I might not have set it up correctly) and my old 6850HD which, surprisingly enough had almost the exact same results as my 280x. With that I came to the conclusion it might not be the GPU at all. In fact I heard that you could upgrade Mac Pros 6,1 with D700s which from what I've heard are essentially 280x's with lower clocks or some shit.

This is kinda strange but I'm not going to discard the motherboard as the culprit to be honest. It was really really cheap and I bought it because of an emergency.
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>>54272483
Stop posting this crap, it's not even half true. The data is used for Bing, or to look up nearby reastaurants and such. Can be completely turned back to the old Spotlight.
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>>54272542
>NSA can be completely turned off

gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

Keep posting from your iBotnet and keep being a zombie.
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>>54272568
>it's possible to turn off a whole governmental institution by clicking a button on your computer
You make no sense
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>>54270785
Depends. I would say it's the least useful, but still a better base system than Win 10.

The only reason to use Windows is for the huge software support, so if you are gonna forfeit that, might as well get Linux.

With OSX you get a system that isn't as nice to use as Linux, nor have the Software support of Windows.
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>>54271413
Bump pls
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>>54271413
>>54274147
Are you looking to install OSx on a windows machine or windows on mac/macbook?
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>>54270955
Apple was/is a member of PRISM. I think you saw the leaked documents.
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>>54270957
Why does everybody pretend to be above video games when defending apple and Linux Haha what a bunch of bullshit.

If Apple and or linux removes clock. Only windows had it.

>muh clock
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>>54271856
No need to just make shit up anon.
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>>54270957
> posted from my macbook pro
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>>54270785
This is /g/.
Windows vs OSX threads belong on /lgbt/
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>>54274809
Because everyone on this board is a hxc linuxfag and not totally over-run with ricing 2smart4u NEETs
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>>54274220
I want to install OS X on a Windows desktop.

I can get the installation file from a VM, I have a hardware which should not make any problems and I would install it on a second partition of my WD Blue 5400RPM.
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Bumperino
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>>54270785
Is it worth my time to compare two pieces of literal shit?
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>>54271210
this
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>>54271844
>At least it has a command line. Can you use vim on there?
>Can you use vim on there?
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I'm currently dual booting windows and OSX. I must say that it's a shitty situation.

Because OSX -is- more comfortable. Looks better, I can actually read on it, has a better file manager and some tools just play very nice. I also bought a magic trackpad for very cheap and it's really a pretty nice thing to use. Thought it would be always inferior to the mouse but I find myself doing things really quickly with it that I wouldn't just manage with the mouse alone (not to mention I can use both at the same time but that's a bit weird)

Issue is that, except for that trackpad which barely works on it, Windows plays much better with all the hardware. Adobe tools just work the way they're supposed to, that is, pretty fucking fast. There's all software available except the browser I got used to, Safari (yeah yeah no webm, security flaws, etc but that shit is actually faster than firefox/chrome/opera) and overall I don't feel like I spent a lot of money so I could have a "normal" experience.

So I have to choose between performance or comfort here.

I also have a choice which is to buy another 8gb of ram and spend some extra time trying to get something like VGA passthrough to work on linux, cause I happen to have a setup that is confirmed to work. And I'm willing to bet that if I spend some more time I can even get this trackpad to do all kinds of kinky shit on it.

So I'm not entirely sure here about what to do.

/blogpost
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>>54270785
Of course it is, why wouldn't be, hell even my left shoe is superior to Windows 10, those people put setting into different applications instead of just using control panel, but no the have the Control Panel for one set of settings, then another application called Settings with another set of settings

I left Windows for OS X in 2013, when everyone was happily using W7, before the whole windows 8 fiasco, and never really used ever since, not long time ago installed W10 to see what's up after all these years, and I couldn't believe my eyes when I experienced the mayhem, what did they do to this poor OS? And why?
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>>54270785
Easily, especially for programming. You have all the *nix tools and they all work, including Bash. Bash on Ubuntu on Windows 10 is absolute shit right now. Even if they make it better, there is still the disadvantage of the rest of the Windows system
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Of course. It just looks like shit these days.
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Unix is always superior to windows and you will see it only get better since it is now the Unix of choice in CS departments. College grads always use in industry what they learned in college.
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>>54270785
I love windows 10 cause im not a lonely beta /g/ browsing linux+gnu using faggot. I play steam all the time and i write code and i make and mix music all on Windows 10 and i have 0 complaints. But cool thread shitlord mac is whack
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>trading one botnet for another
no thanks
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I just built a hackintosh and installed El Capitan on it. What now? How can I check my CPU temperature?
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>>54270785
Is this come kind of a test to weed out the /v/ children? I doubt even poor people can justify using Windows anymore with solid Loonix alternatives.
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>>54270785
its hipsters vs the world
tell me which one is for which and you get jack shit
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>>54270955
>He doesn't know that Apple complies with more user data requests from the government than Google and Microsoft combined.
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>>54271849
kek'd, that's either placebo or you're using an older OS X
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>>54272020
in short, everyone is ignorant
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>>54270994
>/trash/
>/b/ gfur
you should consider a mac, anon
perfect for homos like you
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>>54281300
Sure thing.
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>>54281174
this desu senpai
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At one time I might have considered Apple, I have fond memories dicking around on a Macintosh and they used to be such great dedicated machines when it came to graphic and sound design. But in recent years I've have such bad experiences with them. Both at work and at school they've been constantly breaking down on me and my peers and I constantly get pestered by friends and family to fix their broken iDevices.
Not that I haven't had my fair share of BSODs on Windows machines as well, but those have usually been more infrequent and easier to fix than on Apple devices, and from Win 7 and Up I've only had one single crash on my personal machines.
Sure, Mac products look sleek and El Capitan sure is sexy, but I prefer stability and being able to get shit done over frivolous fashion design any day.
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>>54270785
OSX has no place in work environments
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>>54270923
I was never forced to update, i wanted to.I deleted all windows apps and botnet applications on original RTM and disabled updates service, so nothing is bypassing my hosts file (that update wasn't until a few months ago). I dont care what it looks like, as long as it works. I disabled the update distribution. After all that, to the general user this isnt feasible, but what else do you have to prove that what I have done with my win 10 is still bad. It just works after a few modifications
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>>54272483
apple now knows i use spotlight as a calculator / to open programs
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I don't want to make a new thread so hopefully somebody here can help me.

Does anybody know where I can get an ISO copy of Mac OS X El Capitan (10.11.4)? I need it so I can try to make a Hackintosh. Any help is appreciated.

I already Googled and in order to get it from iTunes, you need to have owned a Mac.
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>>54271874
> unity user tells win and macosx users to fuck off
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>>54281538
Being compliant with the law isn't the same as a botnet.

>>54285221
Did you try to add "torrent" to your searches? Also don't you need a mac to make a bootable drive with it either way?
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>>54285221
You need access to a Mac in order to create a boot drive with it. It won't work on Windows.
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>>54287019

Technically speaking, why is this? Why would you require a mac to make a bootable disc/usb?
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>>54287084
you dont, just use dd. get the iso from rutracker.org (use google translate, find torrents with mac apps store or mas in title or description)
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>>54271210
>>54276352
No, it really isn't. Stop this meme.
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>>54271210
windows 7 is the worst version of windows.
2000 > vista > 8 > xp > 7.
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>>54270975
>>54270975
This. I used to work at an IT shop and the guys doing web design used Apple computers. One of them was the head systems guy at the shop and I had asked why he insisted on using Mac for the Adobe suite when it could be done in Windows. Said Apple was much better supported for this sort of thing. We still primarily supported Windows solutions for businesses, and used Linux for web servers, but there are certain cases where Mac has it's moments.
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>>54287084

You can boot Mac from a virtual machine and download + create bootable drive from there, right?

That's what I'll do, as far as I know it should work. Currently I have El Capitan on a VM and I've already download it from the store, I didn't create bootable yet though.
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>>54270785

OSX is superior in:

>Providing congruent hardware+software solutions
>Font rendering
>CLI-based activities

WindowsX is superior in

>Compatibility (software and hardware)
>Application catalog
>Being a botnet
>Crashing
>Freezing on sleep

Neither has an attractive interface; OSX can't into WM and its' "taskbar" is a clusterfuck. Most Macs I see have about 10,000 programs in the dock and heaven forbid you actually need to find one of them.

At least WindowsX tried to bring the start menu back, shame it doesn't work.
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>>54287183
>vista above anything
come the fuck on
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>>54287645
os x can into wm, including dynamic ones
and its just mac owners who are stupid and dont make use of launchpad (sorta like windows 8 start)
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>>54287675
but that's true. 7 is just a shitty version of vista.
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>>54287645
>Freezing on sleep
explain
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>>54270785
No since I can't install OSX on my non-Apple PC without trickery and even then I might not be able to make it work 100%.
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>>54287867
Unless you're retarded it's really easy to install OSX on a PC. You just have to make sure your hardware is compatible and then follow one of the million guides online.

Works like a charm for me.
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No, you can't. Now fuck off.
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>>54287677
Man. If it was possible to do something like KVM passthrough in OSX I would be really fucking happy.
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If anyone's wondering all it really takes is to download (just by using a public torrent tracker like kat) an el capitan VMware image, patch VMware and create the installer from that virtual machine.

Well you might need to create an apple ID as well of course. I suggest doing that before this process.
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I'm constantly thinking if I should install OS X alongside my W10 but there is so much shit I'll have to install again even though it works perfectly on W10. Is there even FL studio 12 on Mac? Then all the Adobe suite... And I only have 500GB on that drive. Idk idk idk. Basically I'd run OS X on a slow HDD with half a TB of memory just for the Logic, Final Cut, some new IDEs and Rails development. I don't know if it's worth it but I fucking want to work on a comfy designed OS, or at least try it. Working in a virtual machine is a pain in the ass, not smooth at all.
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>>54272151

If you add the GNU to it you sound like a virgin.

You a virgin brah?
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>>54271849
Yeah sure
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OSX doesn't support DirectX and only runs on a limited set of overpriced hardware... windows even has an entire Ubuntu subsystem

Windows wins
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>>54288643
NORMIES GET OUT
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I have a Macbook Pro 15" Mid-2015 with M370X and even on that machine OSX runs slow. Windows 10 runs fine on my old Compaq Presario C700 notebook from 2007. I never will buy a mac again.
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>>54270804
this
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>>54270957
>Hey let's buy a macbook air and solve world famine
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>>54270815

No one serious does.
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>>54270856
>more apps

FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
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>>54291802
stop installng bullshit then you little faggot
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>>54270785

I mean it didn't really changed that much since 4 years ago but it's still feels like something made 10 years after W10

Which is a shame, considering I'm still forced to use it
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>>54270785
Mac is cucked the same way as Windows is, less spyware, therefore more restrictions and crippled software.
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>>54293167
Nothing special is installed. It was slowly at the first boot as well. I think it is the GUI that makes it feel slow.
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>>54270804
/thread
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>>54285809
Oh I was just joking about using Arch with Unity earlier
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>All these windows bashing

Oh gee so original, feels like I never heard this before in the internet since mother fucking 20 years ago.
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>>54270856
Apple doesn't bend over for the FBI unlike Microslut.
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>>54270898
>switching from one botnet to another
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>>54270785
I needed a new computer.

Wanted to learn to use flash/Dreamweaver/fireworks/Photoshop to see if they can save me some time in the work I do.

Read online that adobe products have a bad history of crashing on windows computers, if you've left them up for more than 10 hours at a time.

Decided to buy a Mac for my next computer.

Purchased [pic related].
Did I do OK?

I'm a poorfag, so I never buy anything new. Haven't regretted it yet.
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>>54270856
osx
>less bugs
>better usability (on laptops)
>better battery life
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>>54270823
The sun rises at dawn you mong
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>>54293817
>Apple doesn't bend over for the FBI
lmao
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>>54295318
>$600
>for an over a decade old used core 2 duo era cpu
LMAO
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>>54295318
>Xeon from 2005
>160W total TDP
>$500+
>7300gt
>weaker than a current gen $150 65W i5 while drawing 3X the power and producing 3X the heat

Mactards truly are braindead.
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>>54295620
It may be a core 2 duo era computer, but that is not to say there are core 2 duos inside.

But rather, it has 2 Xeons. (quad core)

This thing is similar to a refurbished PC. I'm assuming in good faith that most of these parts aren't a decade old.

Plus it comes with the full adobe suite. I talked to one of their sales people just the other day, and they said dreamweaver alone is $400 new. But this Mac comes with the full suite.

So it cant be THAT bad of a deal, can it?

I've spent days looking for deals on ebay for iMacs, Macbooks, Mac Minis, Apple XServs, and Mac Pros. I'd like to think I didn't just totally screw up. I have some inkling to what i'm doing. I think.
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>>54295703
You paid $600 for a space heater that's weaker than a BRAND NEW $190 6th generation i5.
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>>54295687
OK, if I truly did that badly, then I challenge you to do better.

Can you find a decent apple computer (any form-factor) that has at least 16 gigs of ram, equivalent or greater processing power to what I purchased, and the power to drive 2 displays each at 3840x2160?

Your budget is a max of $900. Max. Absolute maximum.

I don't want to try to do the Adobe products on Windows. I hate it when shit crashes. So very much.
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>>54295703
>I have some inkling to what i'm doing.
>mac
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>>54295757
>Can you find a decent apple computer

I give up.
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>>54295757
>I hate it when shit crashes. So very much.
:^)
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>>54295769
>>54295789
>>54295812

This seems more like blind-hatred, than constructive criticism. It seems to me you cannot do any better.

Your credibility is sketchy at best. At least until you say something meaningful that actually demonstrates that YOU have an inkling to what you're doing in computer-deal-findings / computer-performance-evaluation.
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>>54292069
How delusional
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>>54295812
>using the smiley with a carat nose
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>>54295841
>eight cores are better than two!!!111
>Your credibility is sketchy at best.
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>>54295318
>>54295703
I think that particular model of processor is the Xeon E5345
you paid $600 for a 2xE5345, 16gb of DDR2 and a 7300GT
in 2016
>wew lad
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>>54270785
El Capitan would be god-tier if it didn't have to run on Apple's shitty hardware. Not to mention that there really isn't anything between "overpriced facebook machine" and "overpowered overpriced facebook machine" in Apple's product lineup.

Still, I find using my Macbook Air to be more pleasurable than my Dell, and half of that I owe to El Capitan.

That's not to say that other OSX versions aren't a bag of dicks though, Mavericks and Yosemite in particular.

Also, I'm retarded please explain why people are complaining about window management on OSX vs Windows?
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>>54287405
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>54295841
lmao
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Maaaan, now I wanted to install hackintosh but when I saw how many shit you have to do for it to work properly on a skylake I lost all will.
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>>54296172
Just install elementary and ram a massive black dildo up your ass, it's the same experience.
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>>54296013
OSX doesn't support Snapping windows by default like what the windows managers of Windows 7 and later versions do. I bought an app for OSX, what made the windows management of OSX much better. Full screen windows in OSX is dogshit by the way.
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>>54296228
Yeah, I do miss that ability I'll admit. Though I like using gestures on the touchpad more.

>Full screen windows in OSX is dogshit by the way.
How so? I can just swipe sideways to another window. I don't find it much more of a hassle than snapping windows.
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>>54270785
Windows 10:
> botnet
> broken af
> paid office suite
> inconsistent design makes it ugly, two control panels is a joke.
> Windows scaling is a joke.
> retired developers says it's source code is a cluster fuck nightmare

OS X 10.11:
> Beautiful OS with consistent design
> Free office suite (iWork)
> No botnet, Apple lets you to choose if you want to send them data
> Disk Encryption enabled by default
> Free updates for life
> Godly scaling, fonts looks beautiful
> Powerful unix terminal
> Xcode, Logic and Final Cut are exclusives.

Can't wait for the next release, it's a pleasure to use.

Not saying it's perfect, there are some annoying bugs (mainly regarding Safari) but overall it's a great OS.
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>>54295318
for that price I would try getting a used MacBook Air tbqh, plenty of power to do what you're aiming for.
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>>54270856
If
>you don't need a windows-specific program
>you don't need a piece of hardware that only works with windows (few people do, save gamers)
>you are not a fucking child
OS X has a wide variety of advantages that I don't feel like listing. Just buy a used macbook for $500 or something. You have a fucking job, don't you? And if you don't like it, sell it for $600.

Just don't go in thinking OS X is some perfectly designed, 100% consistent, bug-free polished OS like /g/ says it is. All software is shit. You might even have to edit undocumented config files depending on what you want to do. And please, do not install the GNU shell utilities, just learn to use the BSD ones. They're fine.

If you are a linux user, OS X's GUI will be pretty familiar to you because gtk+ is the toolkit for apple wannabes.
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>>54296476
>"af"
kill yourself
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>>54270785
Windows < Apple < GNU/Linux binary disros < Linux Source-based distros
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>>54296600
>telling someone to commit suicide because they typed an abbreviation that hurts your fee-fees
leave
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>>54296600
kys
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>>54270951
I have never ever been nagged by Windows 10 for anything.
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>>54270785
No. It's shit.
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