So what's the current year opinion on Windows 10?
It seems to be in a weird category. It's not being lumped in with Vista and Windows 8 as being complete shit. But it also hasn't reached the praise of 7 (or even 8.1).
Proprietary spyware garbage.
>>54226384
>But it also hasn't reached the praise of 7 (or even 8.1).
It took a while for XP and 7 to become praised. But only time will tell if 10 will be as well. I see no reason to switch for the moment anyway.
>failing to understand that Windows 7 was Vista SP3
>idiots actually ate this shit up and paid full price for it
I can understand spyware, as long as it's confined to the government, (I understand it, I don't condone it), but I fucking hate the fact that it's adware as well. Fuck that Jew shit. You corporations can't use my computer as a fucking billboard.
>>54226442
Well the biggest thing is the "spying", I even hear normies complaining about that. Personnally I think its all unfounded nonsense. Microsoft has been very clear with what is sent to them and there's no indication that they've been overstepping their bounds.
The other one normies complain about is Microsoft pushing the OS super hard, I agree its annoying but I get where it comes from (want all their users on a single platform to stop something like XP from happening again). And they've published guides on how to stop the popups so just RTFM.
The other minor gripes are inconsistent UI and it "not being ready" like how it was full of bugs on launch.
Personally I upgraded to it just the other day, and think its a fine OS. Defenitely a worthy successor to Windows 7. It has its quirks but really every OS is shit in its own way.
>>54226384
>It's not being lumped in with Vista and Windows 8 as being complete shit
Only because of the massive amount of shilling going on. Windows 10 is actually much worse than Vista and 8 but Microsoft really wants everyone to "upgrade" for some reason.
>>54226384
just make the UI for everything consistent + get edge up to date for fuck sakes
>>54227700
In most cases the Ui is stuck on the project as a last thought before shipping. Its purpose is to give the user access to the underlying functions.
Compare this to the UI being created first, based on user work flows, and the code is written to implement the functions inherent in the UI.
Remember, as far as most users are concerned, the UI is the application.
>So what's the current year opinion on Windows 10?
It makes Microsoft Bob actually useful.
its not being lumped in with vista because its worse than vista
the spying makes it completely unusable for anyone with at least half a brain
>>54226384
if you're going to be on windows there is no reason not to use the latest windows
>>54226384
I've put Windows 10 on all my other devices except my main PC. I could upgrade, if I wanted, but the motherboard is not supported officially by Asus (lol old 2011 shit). So I'm a little concerned.
>>54229301
>>54229301
Not even the NSA can keep up with the mountain of data it collects, yet you think MS cares about what you do ?
Honestly, the solution is simple, if you don't like it - dont use it.
>>54229301
The same fucking stupid GIFs of wireshark and whatever else with no solid evidence. Next some retard will link that CheesusChrust garbage, and then someone will post that Webm of some retard "decrypting" a outbound screenshot.
>>54229301
Uhhh...
Look at the links that the OS is connecting, it's downloading a Update or an App from Windows Store, it's not telemetry.
>>54229333
Don't forget that moron with the copypasta list of links to shit that were written before the OS was even released, or massive misreadings of the EULA.
>>54226384
Trash.
>>54229314
>but the motherboard is not supported officially by Asus
AHAHAHAHAHA
Oh fuck me, you're serious?
>>54227158
This, except I've never heard normies complain about the "spying". Even the more tech conscious people I know don't really complain about it because they know it's not really a big deal at all.
I really like windows 10. The only issues I have with it are inconsistent UI, I don't know how Microsoft still can't get that right.
No one here uses win10, this thread is filled with shills.
>>54229397
This is for the cloud features you idiot.
>>54227158
>>54229368
Normalfags don't complain about spying because they don't know about it. And if they do, they play the nothing-to-hide card.
If the first versions of windows were like new versions of cars which let you do old things faster, windows 10 would be like sneaking into people's garages and installing an ignition interlock without their permission and forcing the installation of such devices in all new cars. Because everybody is guilty now apparently.
>>54229397
it gives you very realistic examples of each of those things you highlighted
>>54226450
They gave it away for free because otherwise nobody would switch. How else are they supposed to make their money back?
>>54226384
Trash
> It's not being lumped in with Vista and Windows 8 as being complete shit.
Yes, it's worse
Automatic updates which break your OS? Being a permanent beta tester? Seriously?
>install win10
>every update brings back the preinstalled apps, now even trash like candy crush preinstalled
:^)
>>54227158
>>54229368
It's not MS that is overstepping. The issue is the fact that they openly comply with programs like PRISM and share all your data with non-translucent agencies rather than even pretending to fight for the consumer's right to privacy.
>>54226384
Windows 10 > any desktop Linux distro
Prove me wrong faggots.
>>54229785
An opinion can't be right or wrong you fuckwit.
>>54229785
Try RHEL or SLE, not hobbyist distros
>>54229301
not. telemetry. stop. posting. this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkahckjo0FA
If Windows 10 wasn't a botnet it would be the best version of Windows.
Anyone who thinks Windows 8 is shit but 8.1 is great is a fucking moron who probably never used either, they are the same fucking thing.
>>54229851
DELETE THIS
>>54229800
Yes it can you fucking faggot.
>>54229805
RHEL is for fucking servers, and what the fuck is SLE?
>>54229397
>No one here uses win10
Speak for yourself.
>>54229939
lel, you're THIS retarded.
Despite Microsoft best efforts most people are still using Windows 7 lmao
>>54226384
It's not lumped in with Vista or 8 because it's worse than both.
>>54229951
>he uses fucking internet explorer
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
>>54229976
Yes and I am called DefApps.
Nice to meet you, sir.
>>54229951
POO IN LOO
>>54229951
Macaco de merda, mata-te
>Windows 10
>An OS made for anything touchscreen
>using it on your nontouch desktop
I stick to 7 because
>stable
>simple
>doesn't update everyday
>muh aero glass
>it just werks
>no app store shot
>no cortana
>no tablet mode
The only bad is the boot up time
>>54229662
Its not free. Its a free UPGRADE, and only for a year. Go to the store, they sell Windows 10 like any other Windows. In June it'll be back to business as usual, probably.
it has an app store, yet I'm unable to find some worthwhile app
>>54230115
t. Alberto Barbosa
>>54229951
>>54230115
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxRAwVKW6MI
>>54227158
>Microsoft has renewed its Privacy Policy and Service Agreement. The new services agreement went into effect on 1 August 2015, a day before the win10 release.
>By default, when signing into Windows with a Microsoft account, Windows syncs some of your settings and data with Microsoft servers, for example “web browser history, favorites, and websites you have open” as well as “saved app, website, mobile hotspot, and Wi-Fi network names and passwords”.
>Windows generates a unique advertising ID for each user on a device. This advertising ID can be used by third parties, such as app developers and advertising networks for profiling purposes.
>When device encryption is on, the BitLocker recovery key for the user’s device is automatically backed up online in the Microsoft OneDrive account.
>To enable Cortana, Microsoft collects and uses data such as your device location, data from your calendar, the apps you use, data from your emails and text messages, who you call, how often you interact with them on your device, your music, alarm settings, whether the lock screen is on, what you view and purchase, your browse and Bing search history, speech data, your voice input, as well your name and nickname, your recent calendar events and the names of the people in your appointments, and information about your contacts including names and nicknames.
>“We will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary to enforce the terms governing the use of the services".
>Microsoft basically grants itself very broad rights to collect everything you do, say and write with and on your devices in order to sell more targeted advertising or to sell your data to third parties. The company appears to be granting itself the right to share your data either with your consent “or as necessary”.
>>54226384
Windows 10 is shit and all reviews are paid
I can't believe this fucking shit I'm seeing right now. Stellar reviews all over the place for something that is LITERALLY, and by that I mean LITERALLY, LITERALLY the same shit as 8.1 except with a shitty meme start menu, different but still shitty phone tier unusable meme apps, and shitty meme assistant Cortana that mines your useless normie data. Oh, and a fucking ripoff of Expose from 5 year's ago Mac OS but with worse animations.
That wouldn't be all that bad but it is missing many features from Windows 8, most important one being COLORFUL TITLE BARS. Now everything is so white it will burn your retinas off, this is fucking ridiculous, you could always change that color in Vista, 7 and 8 but now you can't anymore because fuck you. You can't even change icon spacing for the desktop or pin shit to the left side of the start menu, if you disable recent apps it just shows empty space... WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU NEED THAT WHEN YOU CAN PIN TILES TO THE RIGHT HOLY SHIT EVERYONE IS GOING TO PIN HIS FAVOURITE APPS THERE GOD FUCKING DAMN IT I'M SO FUCKING TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW. And finally it's still full of fucking duplicated apps/programs like the new shitty settings, inconsistent icons, rough animations, shit's that early as fuck (Edge, are you kidding me with this shit? Literally IE but slightly faster in some shill benchmark and MS Paint built in because that's what everyone wants right? Being able to scribble shit on web pages, what's the fucking point?).
TL;DR I am surrounded by shills how do I stop this?
By the way I'm seriously considering switching to Linux or Mac, this shit is the last straw I'm so fucking done with this shit tier pleb os.
>>54226384
>new laptop came with windows 10
>all i do is program on laptop
>could give a rats ass if someone is spying on my code
works just fine, i'm more sad with my laptops keyboard layout and touchpad than theOS
>>54226384
I have win 8.1 pro on a laptop. If I upgrade, can I still rollback to a previous version like you were able to do with win 7 and 8 through downgrade rights?
>>54226423
XP did but not 7. People were incredibly happy to ditch Vista
>>54230383
>>54226442
I got it for like $10 at release
>>54226384
>It's not being lumped in with Vista and Windows 8 as being complete shit.
You're right, it's even worse than Vista and Windows 8.
It's lumped in with ME. Actually, even ME was better. Unstable - sure - but at least Microsoft didn't directly send all of your private data to the NSA.
> Install windows 10 spyware edition
> can't use bitlocker to encrypt my drive
> have to pay $100 to use bitlocker and other useless shit
Fuck this. Should uninstall and run Gentoo.
>>54230452
>he actually uses windows 10
>>54227158
>two sepparate control panels
That's my only problem
>>54230479
why would you use bitlocker to begin with?
>>54229314
My asus transformer book laptop was also not sopported, I upgrade it anyway because windows 8 was something it should not have existed ever.
Honestly, everything works, I was afraid that the propietary asus apps that control the keyboard second battery and the extra speakers would stop working properly, but somehow everything was untouched.
I still hate the double control panel tough
>>54229951
>Stock everything
>Chrome
>MPC-HC
>foobar2000
>Notepad++
>Windows Store
You realize this is a technology board, right?
the OS is great
the malware is not.
>>54230503
>>54230503
>>>54230479 (You)
>why would you use bitlocker to begin with?
At least if some dildo stole my laptop then they wouldn't have all my hentai.
>>54230383
>TL;DR I am surrounded by shills how do I stop this?
Report all Windows 10 threads
Filter all Windows 10 threads
Ignore all Windows 10 posters
>>54229951
wallpaper pls
>>54227158
>Personnally I think its all unfounded nonsense.
Well you "think" wrong you willfully ignorant idiot.
>>54229763
Quit breaking the law and i'm sure the government won't give a rats ass about you.
>>54230452
HAHAHAHAHAHA HE ACTUALLY USES IT
>>54227158
>And they've published guides on how to stop the popups so just RTFM.
[citation needed]
All I find on google are posts about people complaining about how ridiculously over-the-top the Windows update notifications are, to the point where they have to manually audit every single update that gets released to make sure it doesn't include a Windows 10 update trojan.
(Yes, trojan - why else would they hide it under the guise of a “security update” for internet explorer?)
>50 ‘no’s and one ‘yes’ means ‘yes’
- Microsoft
I'm surprised there aren't any SJW articles about how Microsoft is figuratively raping their customers.
>>54230634
https://support.microsoft.com/en-ca/kb/3080351
>>54230142
get an ssd. win10 boots slower than 7 did for me
>>54230373
>This intothetrash's the OS
>>54230142
>stable
My computer crashed more times with W7 than it does with W10
>simple
What's not simple about W10? With the start button back everything is almost the same except some cosmetic tweaks
>doesn't update everyday
I haven't had an update in a while. Unless you're in their insider program, updates aren't that frequent.
>muh aero glass
>it just werks
At this point you're just memeing.
>no app store shot
>no cortana
>no tablet mode
Literally all of those are features that you don't even have to use and can disable.
>>54226384
I switched to Xubuntu. Wine support is getting better, I can play most of my steam library now.
>>54229325
Data mining
>>54230601
>implying everyone is a criminal
everyone except you rite?
>>54230858
>just fuck my OS up
>FOR FREE
>>54230549
Exactly. This isnt a desktop customization board so please fuck off to your desktop generals.
>>54229951
br? HUE HUE HUE
stock/10 it's ugly
>>54229301
> tfw vista/7/8/8.1 has spying too
>>54230833
I get similar shit, haven't been able to use their website since they last updated it. I just use archive.org to view the pages.
>>54229301
You can turn most of the spying of with spybot anti-beacon, stop bitching around.
>>54229976
No, he doesn't? lol
>>54231009
>Tfw you manage your updates properly so you don't get raped by telemetry backports
>literally developed by pajweet anad rajeesh
no thanks
>>54231055
>telemetry = spying
I hate this meme 2bh
>>54230383
10/10 top tier
>>54230549
>>54231043
> tfw most
>>54231132
>cares about privacy but still uses 10
back to /v/ you go /v/ermin
>>54231055
I just want the ability to say no, that's all.
> tfw telemetry, backdoors, spyware, and malware are all things I can't uninstall, much like the damn metro apps and shit
>>54230974
>Using non-shit software
>Desktop customization
I see you are confused about what “technology” means. This is a technology board in that users are expected to have a base level of technological understanding.
>>54231175
ive actually never been on /v/
>>54231206
it's the perfect board for you
>>54231187
you're the one confused, you just don't see it, you're blocking your view
>>54231215
i feel like itd be too elitist for my taste
>>54230450
The only reason XP was praised is because Vista was bad. When it was XP alone everyone complained about it. Wasn't until SP2 it started to be a lot better
>>54226384
god i hate when people say that vista and 8 (and whats the fucking difference between it and 8.1?) are shit. really 7 is the worst version of windows and xp before sp3 is really bad too, while vista is the best version of windows
>>54231092
Most of it is used for automated ads. Technically they aren't actively spying but they do have a data retention period. If an employee felt so compelled, they could pull up your personal data. Working in a datacenter you learn how much information is readily available for someone willing to do a little digging.
>>54231184
Microsoft doesn't have a financial drive to give you choices. Having >80% desktop share means they can focus on other ways to make money.
I like how once a company decides to be open about their data gathering practices and not do it under the table, all hell breaks loose and tinfoils come out of the closet
>>54231314
Please name another software vendor that engages in mass surveillance to the same degree as Microsoft does with Windows 10, Rajeet.
>>54231314
Microsoft only recently jumped on the share-everything-with-advertisers bandwagon. It's one thing for a web service to do it, you can easily avoid that particular web service.
>>54231353
Google but they've been up front about it from the beginning.
>>54231369
Why do you think /g/ constantly calls Chrome a botnet?
>>54231381
>think
>/g/
>>54226384
>upgraded genuine win7 on my thinkpad t520 so that I have a free key
>i5 with 8gbs of ram with SSD
>is slower, laggy, and worse performance wise in almost every single way
I only used it for like a week, but it ran like fucking garbage.
>>54230479
Just KMS and you don't need to pay shit.
It'll soon be 1 year since W10 came out? Jesus
>>54231466
And yes, before you ask I did an 7->10 upgrade then a fresh 10 install
>>54226384
The real question is not just spying. Why would you oblige yourself to use software that is proprietary in the first place? Just the lack of developer transparency should be off-putting enough to most to put down Microsoft garbage. What's stopping them from implementing a day one update that keylogs or maliciously collects telemetry? Why even give the power to a black box to do that?
fine on my end
on par with 7
if you think you aren't being 'spied' on with 7, you must be an idiot
>>54231502
Windows has always been transparent, the spying has increased 100fold in the windows 10 without the option to turn it off
>>54231499
>Why would you oblige yourself to use software that is proprietary in the first place? Just the lack of developer transparency should be off-putting enough to most to put down Microsoft garbage.
If more people understood the shitshow that goes on behind the scenes, open source would be the only option.
Project manager set an unreasonable deadline?
Use old code and adapt it as quickly as you can to have a semi-functional product.
Support through patches until the new version.
>>54231515
>Windows has always been transparent
>>54231761
it was always transparent
transparently bad, that is
if it's not clear to you how bad windows is, then it wouldn't be transparent to begin with
>>54226390
>Proprietary
ok
>spyware
ok
>garbage.
gnu/faggots cant into most successful OS launch of all time
The updating mechanism is awful. if your not careful you can get suckered into running those updates which require several restarts which suddenly decides to install itself right when you need to use the darn thing then your left with a useless machine for an hour and at the end of it all the shitty Windows apps like groove music get reinstalled.
>>54231787
>hey this window is so tiny I can't even stick my micropenis in it, what is the point of having it in the first place
>yeah but at least it's transparent lol
>>54226384
It's not as good as XP or 7, but, presuming you have no regard for your privacy, it's better than Vista and 8 (8's privacy is pretty much the same as 10's).
>>54230918
if you've not broken the law why do you care that the government has retained some information about you to prevent terrorism and arrest criminals?
>oh no they saw my metadata hidden amongst 200 million other bits of metadata per second, they know my terrible pornography habits!
>>54226450
Adware?
I see you fell fot the advertisement start menu fake
>>54234303
If you don't plan to kill someone, why do you care if the government bans the sale of guns?
If you don't plan to say offensive things, why do you care if the government bans free speech?
If you don't hate all 1.6 billion Islamic people, why do you care if the government floods in millions of Islamic refugees?
I want to be able to retain my privacy because it's my right, not because it's a necessity.
>>54230373
Just use the local account and disable cortana
Holt fuck it's so simple, or use windows ultimate tweaker 4 to disable everything
>>54234379
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
>>54226384
OP here, can't believe that bait worked so well.
shit i just put it on the hook and left.
come back and see this shit.
didn't even have to run the trolling motor. just tied my line to a tree.
>>54232138
>mandatory "upgrade"
>successful launch
>>54226384
The spying shit and uncontrollable updates ruined it for me. I'm sticking with 7.
>>54229939
SUSE
>>54227158
They uninstall programs without your permission fucking dropped.
I'm glad they watch, if they watch. I lately started to browse Christian materials, maybe they will learn something.
>>54229325
Implying the NSA isn't working behind the scenes with Microshill
>>54226384
How's battery life? As a laptop user that's my main priority
>>54226423
windows 10 is basically windows 7 but riced
>>54235241
It's different anon.
>>54235241
well no
you see they intentionally made it look like signs you see in public places
to brand it as a utility rather than an operating system
it's like how ugly rectangle cement buildings are always government offices and shit
>>54235295
operating systems aren't utility's? that just looks like good design.
>>54235376
sorry
*public utility
bathrooms and parking lots kind of stuff
>>54235399
you mean useful stuff?
aren't you a special snowflake!
