You have exactly two seconds to tell me why you aren't using Arch, and its supreme, superior package manager.
>pic related
>>54167088
because it's Arch.
I tried, XServer came broken out of the box with a segfault error
I followed the wiki step by step, and it took me hours
Fuck that shit, I have other things to do
>that archlinux sticker on the laptop
I'd like to use my OS to get stuff done, rather than maintain it.
>>54167088
I am using Arch on both my Lenovo Thinkpad(tm) AND my desktop.
im employed
>>54167088
Because I want the hardware that I have paid for, to be fully operational and available 24/7. That's why I chose Windows.
>>54167088
It's not stable in the way that Debian stable is stable.
And stability is important to me.
>>54167088
>superior package manager
>has no use flags
>has no slots
>has no overlays
>pkgbuild not even close to ebuilds in ease of use
>no auto patch application for user provided patches
Gentoo or kill yourself.
>>54167257
>Debian stable
>5 year old software
>>54167273
Does software go bad with age or something?
>>54167319
It's outdated.
Feels like I'm stuck in 2009 yet all the people using non-shit distros are actually using modern software.
>>54167172
you wouldn't get stuff done either way
>>54167088
>empty Amitriptyline packet next to computer running Arch Linux
Poetry.
can I use premier, lightroom and 3dsmax with it, while I play s.t.a.l.k.er?
>>54167257
Weird, Debian was buggy for me
>>54167347
If you look at the release notes for a lot of software, you'll notice that many releases do not fix or change anything that you're interested in.
>>54167374
You probably didn't understand what I meant by stable.
>>54167172
This guy has it right.
>>54167368
Kek
>>54167368
Yes, OP. Ease the pain of Arch.
>>54167088
>why you aren't using Arch
Too hard.
I'm a Lubuntu noob.
>>54167368
>empty packet
This thread might be his suicide note
But anon, I am using arch.
That's a T420 btw
>>54167368
>>54167452
OP here. shut the fuck up, I take it for a muscle disorder
>>54167452
Even in death Arch Virgins will try to convert you. It's worse than Islam.
Because windows 7 is easier to use.
>>54167403
Arch hardly ever needs to be maintained, and when it does its because you fucked something up.
I'm just too lazy for it really
>>54167471
Arch users are martyrs, confirmed.
>>54167465
>uses Arch
>takes an antidepressant for a 'muscle disorder'
Yup. Seems legit. Your dad also work for Nintendo?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_crisis_lines
>>54167121
>litterally replying memes
>>54167501
fuck you my dad's dead
>>54167088
I am
>urr durr le "things to be done" meme
>>54167529
Arch get to him too?
>>54167544
Lmfao. Even as an arch user myself I find that to be fucking hilarious.
OP here.
After having been laughed at and ridiculed for my choice of operating system, I have decided that this is it.
I am going to kill myself.
For the last two years, I've asked myself the same question every single day:
"Why didn't I just install Gentoo?".
Pic related, it's the blood from my wrist.
>>54167088
because it's very difficult to configure switchable nvidia graphics
>>54167633
Was this entire post just a setup for a shitty install Gentoo joke.
>>54167633
Checked and kekked.
>RIP OP
>>54167369
>muh games
>>54167633
your cum is weird anon
>>54167088
I've been considering trying out Arch again after using Debian for 7 years. Guess it's time to download.
>>54167088
Because Manjaro exists. Updates are installed without any issues. I tried Arch few years ago and if you follow that guide you will get usable distro. Distro which you will most likely fuck up because you are bored andalias erection='pacman -Syu'meme is true.
>>54167633
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVAwPOgmdPY
see you space nerd
I have a fulltime job
>>54167088
Not into masochism Sry.
>>54167088
ebuilds > aur
Portage > pacman
>>54167694
Don't bother, it's like a shittier gentoo without any of the advantages.
If you want source and pakage control at a higher level than debian (even considering apt-build) use gentoo
If gentoo is too 'bloat' use Slackware
If you're really in a self-harming mood, try LFS.
I only use a dozen or so packages, half of which I build from source to make use of some patches I put together. I stopped distro-hopping, and eventually settled on Debian and OpenBSD for daily use. I guess I could package the patched versions of everything I use, but since I update less frequently it doesn't seem particularly important at the moment.
>>54167088
My distro can make a screnshot
But I am.
I don't use the AUR though. AUR is for lazy people who don't care about security or being up to date. Write your own pkgbuilds!
because I would rather get shit done.
>>54167088
What exactly would I get compared to OSX? Waste more time to make it work, get shitty UI and have no support for productive software?
>>54168382
>Waste more time to make it work
Stop being a tec illiterate faggot
>get shitty UI
>what is ricing
>no support for productive software
depends on what you are doing. However, just because you can't use the exact same software doesn't mean its not productive.
>>54168382
If you ever did anything genuinely productive you'd realise what a horrible piece of garbage OSX is.
>>54168424
>Stop being a tec illiterate faggot
It won't make the setting up faster, regardless of your skill set.
>what is ricing
What is time?
>However, just because you can't use the exact same software doesn't mean its not productive.
So why exactly would I want to change software adjusted to my workflow? (Let's just pretend the software on Loonix has identical functionality)
>>54168497
Nice meme but you didn't name a single benefit of Arch compared to OSX for a normal person.
>>54168558
> normal person
Do you mean a person who doesn't know jack shit about computers and doesn't need one because their smartphone can do all their facebooking and twittering ? Then you are right my friend, there is no advantage for you in using Arch. Enjoy your crippled garbage :)
>>54167684
>Entertainment is a bad thing
I don't get this spicy meme. What do you do all day other then configure/fix arch?
>>54168558
I installed arch yesterday morning, it took 15 minutes, 20 tops. I had it all riced to my liking by that afternoon. Just face it, you're bad.
>>54167172
>I'd like to use my OS to get stuff done
If you consider shitposting on 4chan "getting shit done"
>>54167088
>>54168626
>unless your rice your machine for work you browse FB and Twittah xD
>>54168805
> I had it all riced to my liking by that afternoon
And you think it's okay to spend half of your day just to make an OS work?
Also again, what benefits did you get from it all?
>>54167088
>hacker - Konsole
Cause I'm not a cuckfag
Install Gentoo
>>54167121
>didnt install correct drivers
>>54167088
>ls -a
>>54167269
>>54167977
This.
Install funtoo!
>>54167269
>bitches about using system
>spends 24 hours compiling a 1mb program
>>54168900
I only have wifi on my computer and wifi-menu makes the install very easy for me, other distros with a similar feature are way worse to install (gentoo, funtoo) or require hoops to get it to work in a minimal system (usually needing ethernet to set it up first).
That's why I use arch and not debian. If I installed debian I would have riced it exactly the same and it would take the same amount of time. I just don't like preinstalled DEs personally. I get to set everything the way I want to, and I like that.
I'm a NEET so half a day is not a big deal to me. If I wasn't doing that I'd just be practicing japanese reading or shit posting here.
>>54168199
>read pkgbuild
>something i dont want or like
>remove/add
>compile
>>54168900
>making it work
So you dont change anything in ubuntu? You only uses stock colors and stock software it came with?
Ricing is optional.
Base install is 100% functional
>>54168958
I should also mention that I could have not riced it all, and that means I'd have a working desktop in 30 minutes time.
>>54167474
>update kernel
>one of the modules fails to compile because lel it's only for <4.5
>no input works anymore, no keyboard, no mouse
>can't activate the module through chroot because it activates it for the host kernel instead
>>54169003
>So you dont change anything in ubuntu?
I honestly didn't have to do much, it's pretty kay out of the box and looks alright too, just bloat-y. Biggest time sink was deactivating ded. GPU on my laptop.
>>54168958
Decent response but ... not exactly a reply to my overall question.
>>54169048
>mindlessly updating system
>have special module
>bitch when it dosent work
>OMG ARCH SO BROKEN OMG IM GOING BACK TO NIGGERUNTO
>>54167088
I do use it on my desktop. It was the easiest distribution to use for my GPU passthrough, because it comes with the newest kernel by default.
On my Librebooted x200 I am using Trisquel GNU with Linux-Libre, so everything is 100% libre.
>>54169071
It was a regular pacman -Syu day like any other
I need a special module because it's fucking virtualbox
The Arch install was about as vanilla as they come except with Xorg and a DE
>>54167088
because I don't want to eat Amitriptyline like you to handle my OS
>mfw deleted Arch for Ubuntu with i3 last week
best decision so far in 2016
>>54167088
I'm a .NET developer.
>>54169071
>>54169093
By the way I'm on Manjaro right now, and Manjaro doesn't have this problem ;)
>>54169079
What do you think about Parabola? Did you consider it at all?
>>54169093
>bitching virtualbox dosent have their shit together for a new kernel
>OMG ARCH IS SOOOO HARD AND I CANT FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT SO IM GOING TO BASH IT ON /G/ AND MEME HARD
>>54169071
>hermorraging edge system argument
>don't update it
kek
>>54167088
aint nobody got time for arch.
xubuntu works fine for me.
>>54169126
>use a "stable" repo
>complain that it's not stable, like the stable repos of any other decent distro
>get bitched at by a horny teen on an imageboard
>>54167762
this, so much this
>>54169141
>dont update software that arch has zero control over
>virtualbox isnt updating ITS software to support new kernel
Arch fault how?
Thats like going to an american mcdonalds and askign for crispy fried toad that they sell in thailand
>>54169145
>stable
virtualbox is third party software
>>54169122
I use proprietary nvidia drivers on my desktop, because I play any game that I can on Arch, and I only use the passthrough for games that need it. The only nonfree packages on my Arch install are Nvidia drivers, steam, and games. The way I see it, this allows me to use less user subjugating software overall. If I could play games well with libre drivers I would. But for now my x200 is my Libre device. I used Trisquel instead of arch on the x200 because I do not need the newest kernel or packages for what I do on it.
>>54169227
>Arch fault how?
Because it doesn't even have a decent kernel rollback solution, you need to do it through fucking pacman
>>54169256
Why wouldnt you do it through your package manager lol. Stop crying about your lack of knowledge on any distros functionality.
cd /var/cache/pacman/pkg
pacman -U last.kernel.you.used.tar.xz last.kernel.you.useds.headers.tar.xz
Problem?
>>54167088
i don't have ɔːtism
>>54167088
font config?
surely that's not how it looks by default.
what fonts are you using?
>>54169311
That's the first fucking thing I did, well guess what it doesn't work. It didn't load the kernel modules even after reinstalling them.
>>54169360
You have to reboot after a kernel update to load modules.lol How the fuck is it going to load them on a new kernel that isnt loaded yet?
Further proof of your misinformation and incompetency
>>54169408
The input issues literally started after that reboot, until then it was "just" broken Xorg. But yeah, share some more meme insults with me
>>54167088
>pacman
>pic related
>hacker konsole
>ls -a
wut, you arent even trying..
>>54167347
>outdated
What do you think that word means?
>>54167088
>Arch with KDE
That's like checking for stove gas leaks with a lit match
Is it a good OS for my company's server? We have a lot of sensitive information from our clients like social security numbers and bank account.
>>54169448
>Not including the proper xorg-input drivers
>Not knowing other shit wont work if YOU didnt do it right
>refusing to read xorg.0.log where it LITERALLY tells you what isnt working
Nothing just "STOPS" working,you fucked up somwhere.You're incompetent
>meme insults
You're just throwing around buzzwords,instead of thinking and make orginal comments.
You can but youd want a stable lts distro over bleeding edge
Use centos
>>54169560
No, it's a hobbyist distro. But you already knew that.
yes
>>54169561
>spouting generic advice that everyone knows
>AddScreen/ScreenInit failed for driver 0
Wow so informative!
>>54169561
>>54169613
>you fucked up somwhere
Yeah, I installed Arch
>>54169628
werks on my machine
>>54169640
>caratnosesmiley.tar.gz
>>54169613
>not reading 2 lines up and getting the actual error
>>54169655
Or I could've used Manjaro and would've had it fixed in 2 minutes
>>54169685
So you fucked up your config,and santa is coming to fix it for you?
Delusional
Admit you fucked up and you went to a pussy distro made for retards,because you couldnt read a txt file
I can't even install a new DE on Xubuntu without crashing X. I'd be hopeless at Arch
You guys are all fucking idiots.
OP is clearly trolling.
>amitriptyline
>archlinux sticker
>trollface thing near the monitor
>kde
>"hacker-Konsole"
because I couldn't install it, the boot thingy (syslinux?) wouldn't work during installation
>>54169736
Yeah, because I want to spend more time googling the Xorg logs than actually using the OS
>I fucked up my config by doing a pacman -Syu... sounds like the perfect distro for my neet ass!
For the record I fixed it by finding an older vbox image I've fortunately backed up earlier, but no decent distro should be doing this on a casual update. Might as well stay root all the time and call people using sudo pussies.
because i use slackware
>>54167088
>because constant crashing
>because no need for light weight distro with 16GB ram and 4GHz processor
>because I'm not a pretentious faggot
>>54169865
>constant crashing
Ah yes, because I'm sure you've used Arch enough for this to happen to you :^)
>>54169802
pacman would not fuck up your install.If it exists(via md5sum) it will name the new config X.conf.pacnew.You had it misconfigured,and while it was working then,being misconfigured,it finally updated what you were broken and now you have to actually fix it
How long have you been using computers,lets count windows and mac too?
You fucked up your install,didnt want to make any attempt at fixing it,and jumped on the meme bandwagon
Busted
What can you get through your thicking skull?
Virtualbox did not provide an update for the new kernel.This is not a priority for the devs,waiting on minor third party packages
Bitch at virtualbox devs
2nd link
>>54169882
>follow the install instructions to a T
>"lel you fucked up your install you noob"
Why doesn't this happen on any other distro I use? Because they're for babbies?
>>54169879
Anyone who's used it for 5min knows that
>>54169913
Really? Because mine hasn't crashed once
Stop listening to the memes on /g/, it'll do you good
>>54169905
It can happen on any distro,where a user that has no knowledge of linux,starts playing around with things.
Im sure you can check the ubuntu forums and find hundres of thousands of most with babby's firtst distro users raped their install and now x wont start,their monitor is showing rainbox colors and their mouse is on fire.
I have Fedora on my desktop and Arch on a netbook. Fedora is 10/10, Arch is a timesink.
>>54169946
>playing around with things
>doing a system update
ITT: People using the "arch" bait and people so butthurt that they couldn't install arch that they're desperately responding to the bait.
>>54169920
Thanks for making my point about being a pretentious faggot
>>54170017
>Not reading what is being updated
>using virtualbox
>know what kernels are
>know what virtualbox does
>not checking a third party websites support or lack therof for new kernel
>blaming stock repos for third party software not being updated
Keep making excuses.
>>54167762
>Because Manjaro exists.
Isn't that a reason not to use Manjaro?
>>54170072
>pointing out that you're wrong makes me pretentious
>>54170100
>>54167762
>>54170073
>testing packages in stable repos
>implying third party websites write about lack of support if they haven't included the support in the first place
>I'm the superior linux user because I spend more time browsing stackoverflow and arch forums for error messages
>not using virtualbox
>>54167088
But I am
>>54170144
>using virtualbox
>>54170144
>provide one instance
>"versions 10-15 need 4.4"
>google your problem
>google takes 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 seconds to provide result
>read first result > not helpful
>read second result > helpful
>read 5 lines of text
>go to my config
>fix it
>done being a meme faggot and use distro
You're just incompetent.
>>54170214
That "second result" is way younger than my problem m8.
>>54170108
Making my point even stronger. Keep going
>>54170169
oops forgot this shiet
>>54170052
>butthurt that they couldn't install arch
I've installed Arch at least a dozen times. It's easy as fuck:
1. format disks
2. mount root and pacstrap it
3. genfstab, timezone, locale, etc
4. chroot, set root password
5. install bootloader
But Arch is still a pointless meme distro. And its userbase is almost entirely entirely teenage edgelords -- check the freenode channel if you don't believe me. You will never find a more wretched hive of smug and puberty.
>>54170212
>trying this hard to deflect
>>54170245
It must sad being you and thinking everyone who tells you you're wrong is pretentious.
>>54170279
>But Arch is still a pointless meme distro. And its userbase is almost entirely entirely teenage edgelords -- check the freenode channel if you don't believe me. You will never find a more wretched hive of smug and puberty.
Wow, great points, guess I'll stop using Arch now
>>54167762
lal
>>54170100
kek
>>54170136
lel
>>54170279
>install arch 8 years ago
>/g/ never even heard of it
>forums filled with helpful information and fun toys to play with
>irc is professional and helpful within an hour of asking,devs werent complete niggers
>wiki is contantly being updated with actual information,instead of retards fighting in the talk page about the order of switches to make i "optimal"
I only use the wiki now,everything else is vapid as fuck
>>54170279
>But Arch is still a pointless meme distro.
Guess my life is a pointless meme too.
>>54170378
You just can't help yourself. Keep trying to show me how superior you are
>>54167088
Why am I using Arch if there is Gentoo in the market? Can you answer me?
