Why do so many comp sci profs use Apple computers?
Honest question, I'm curious. Something like 5 of the 6 profs I had this semester had iMacs in their office.
Because they're not as poor as you are.
I wondered the same when I saw my teacher using one. He was running Windows on it though. Maybe the university provides them with a laptop? I don't know
>>54162080
Unix. Literally it's Unix and they were probably old crusty GreyBeards who are upset that Sun doesn't make a desktop anymore so they settled for an imac.
>>54162080
pretty sure apple hands out free or discounted products to publicly visible "tech" people
>>54162080
unix environment without having to deal with other kernel quirks
Why would a computer science instructor use a stable Unix system with minimal upkeep required on hardware paid for by a university? Don't they know it can't play video games?
>>54162080
Didn't see many in mechanical engineering. Only knew of one mech student who used one, and he was running crunchbang on a p3 ThinkPad alongside his MacBook pro
>>54162102
The University provides it, I asked my tutor at uni a few weeks ago.
He called it his work laptop, said he preferred using his thinkpad though since the macbook felt too flimsy and light compared to it
>>54162080
>I don't use any apple products
>I'm smarter than my professors
>mommy said so
>>54162165
>this happened
>>54162122
It's called an education discount. It's not some clandestine thing the way you make it sound.
as for OP, there are very very few brands that make machines that run *nix out of the box and have all the settings and hardware sorted out to sensible defaults. It's true that CS professors are competent enough to figure out drivers for WiFi, but their careers are not enhanced by spending time tinkering with that shit. The less time they need to spend between breaking the shrinkwrap and writing papers and code and shit, the better.
>>54162080
Less than half here.
But in most comp.sci places Microsoft and Apple both try to peddle discounted laptops and offer deals left and right in a bid to inexpensively strengthen their ecosystem.
And as always with marketing, it works for some people.
>>54162110
>macshit
>unix
Pick one.
>>54162245
LOL EPIC! i upvoted you!
>>54162204
It's true though. He prefers using Ubuntu mate on his thinkpad for personal uses (according to him) and he uses the macbook for uni related work.
Just because you don't believe me doesn't mean it's not true.
>>54162245
it is unix retard
>>54162265
>mactoddler thinks macshit is unix
>calls someone else a retard
topkek m8
>>54162245
>BSD isn't Unix. LOLAOLA! GOT'em!
Shutup.
Sun was pretty much THE hardware/software provider for CS departments. When they went under there was a mass exodus from Solaris to MacOS.
>>54162290
>mactoddler
I'm guessing you're the retard who didn't understand 4.4BSD licensing? Do I have to school you again?
>>54162290
the only apple laptop i own is a powerbook 1400 series from 1997. fuck off.
>>54162304
>bsd is unix bcuz i said so!
Mactardism, not even once.
>>54162325
>in copyright sense
Fuck off, illiterate retard.
>>54162325
4.4BSD-lite wasn't Unix in the copyright sense. 4.4BSD-encumbered was very much Unix.
FreeBSD extended 4.4BSD-lite
Context is everything kid.
>>54162080
When you can't do, you teach.
>>54162360
>4.4BSD-encumbered was very much Unix.
>FreeBSD extended 4.4BSD-lite
So you admit macshit was never Unix, got it.
>>54162366
>>54162377
You're the same retarded troll that I schooled once before. I refuse to suffer fools.
>>54162423
>mactoddler thinks lying on the internet and regurgitating applel marketing rhetoric word for word is winning an argument
toppest of keks
>>54162423
Stay BTFO retard.
www.rhapsodyos.org/misc/rhap_timeline/Rhapsody_Timeline_1.html
>>54162441
>Retard thinks he knows what unix is.
You're not convincing anyone that MacOS isn't Unix other than the circle-jerk, anti-mac gnutards.Those that know Unix already know.
>>54162110
This. My whole department (geophysics) used to run on SGI and then SUN, and now finally a mixture of OS X for laptops and some workstations (old mac pros, new ones are useless for what we do), linux for the clusters/supercomputers and the rest of the workstations.
For the retards in this thread, yes OS X is a certified UNIX™.
Your opinion/butthurt on the matter is irrelevant.
>>54162481
>mactoddler thinks he knows what unix is
You're not convincing anyone that MacshitOS is Unix other than the circle-jerk, mactards. Those that know Unix already know it isn't.
>>54162486
>mactoddler doesn't even understand the difference between posix certification and an OS
>>54162478
Haha. Rhapsody starts at version 5.0..so what happened before? eh? Oh, from your same source
Rhapsody
Rhapsody (like NEXTSTEP and OPENSTEP before it) uses a licensed version of BSD. This is to say, Rhapsody is using a pre-4.4BSD Lite version of BSD (where the restricted parts were removed). This limitation was one of the reasons that Apple created Darwin.
>>54162515
>mactards are going so far as to claim macshit os and rhapsody are the exact same thing now
topkek m8
>>54162513
>he uses outdated requirements of ATT code to say what is and isn't Unix.
>>54162542
>He thinks BSD licenses still exist.
Get out of the 90's grandpa.
Daily reminder than OSX was never UNIX.
>b-bu-but muh mach
Literally started and designed as a unix-LIKE compatible replacement.
>retards think UNIX is even good
>>54162606
Thread reminder that you didn't read the thread. Your infographic was debunked. It used 4.4BSD-encumbered code. >>54162515
>>54162619
/thread
UNIX was shit, but it was the majority marketshare, thus if your shit was compatible with UNIX, that made it more functional.
Trying to be UNIX compatible in a world where desktop is 99% Win/Linux, servers are 100% Win/Linux, and phones are 90% Win/Linux is just retarded.
>>54162633
Thread reminder that you're an illiterate retard. >>54162478 shows the exact point it was replaced with BSD-Lite.
>>54162080
i think its probably because mac os gives unix tools without the hassle of a linux install.
>>54162665
>it's no longer Unix cuz ATT code
Stop being dumb.
>>54162670
>the hassle of a linux install
Why do mactoddlers even come to /g/ if they're so scared and frightened of technology and can't handle the simplest of tasks?
>>54162606
honestly, does it matter if it's from unix or just unix-y? does the pedigree matter to you?
this is like when torvalds went on that rant about how awful HFS is. like, fine, but has it had any implication or effect on users that we can point to? or is this entirely pedantic?
>>54162688
>it's unix bcuz a piece of paper appel paid millions for sed so!
Stop being dumb.
>>54162705
Do you honestly think that AT&T code still exists in Solaris?
>>54162695
>has it had any implication or effect on users that we can point to?
>>54162695
It has nothing to do with Unix because AT&T hasn't had anything to do with Unix in decades, they are just gnutards hating MACOSX
>>54162102
Apple is great for organizations because providing organizational IT support is MUCH more expensive than overpaying XXX% on Apple products.
That's why we get so many "People in XXX company are using macs, why aren't you" basement dweller fags.
For personal use a Thinkpad is much better, it's easier than having to bring your laptop to a store to upgrade the RAM (or pry that shit open like your mum's snatch).
>>54162721
>linus
Dropped.
>>54162721
thanks, you might be the first person that has bothered to respond to me when i've asked this.
is there some explanation for why i haven't been hearing complaints from os x users about corrupted data? or time machine backups that have gone bad? or anything like that?
is the response to this absence of complaints that os x users are simply quietly accepting lots of their data getting corrupted and not complaining about it? is there something built into os x that's finding and correcting this stuff as a sort of stopgap?
this is like when astronomers hypothesize that something should happen in the universe with certain probability >0, but you see it basically nowhere in all the universe that we've seen. i'm open to believing that it's happening (or that the implications of HFS are in fact this bad), but i need an explanation as to why i haven't seen or heard about basically every os x user losing shit to corruption.
>>54162734
that's my sense. and it's fine if that's your gripe, but own up to it.
>>54162695
>does the pedigree matter to you?
If anything that meets posix is unix then there's no fucking point of having a brand. Redhat, Ubangtwo and Windows with SFU are all UNIX now and have been fore decades by that standard.
>>54162758
When the average mac user encounters a bunch of their vacation photos are corrupted and lost, do you honestly think they'll suspect it to be HFS, much less even know what a filesystem is?
>>54162781
Winbuntu doesn't even need SFU now. Winbuntu is just UNIX. :^)
>>54162695
Remember, Linus almost always has a point when he rants. It's the guy with the most widely used OS kernel *by far*.
And he actually had a very direct hand in both managing the project and engineering the kernel itself.
>>54162080
Profs don't do .NET, so why would they use Windows? Good luck finding normie software for Linux.
>>54162799
i mean i expect to hear about lots of users (basically 100%, given that this is "by design") complaining about having lost their photos, and someone eventually piecing that together. i'm not hearing or seeing that, though.
more importantly, how is it that just vacation photos are at stake here? why are operating system files and other core elements not falling apart? is the degradation extremely slow, or what?
like is it "by design" that we can expect (statistically) that 1 sector of 3 billion will get corrupted in 10 years? because if that's the big reveal then this is like saying "the sun is going to explode" and leaving out that it's not happening for 4-5 billion years.
>>54162825
what's so wrong with case insensitivity?
Daily reminder that UNIX/POISX compatibility is a meme with 0% marketshare, i.e. the only thing UNIX had going for it.
The only compatibility or "being certified for" that matters today is Windows/Linux/Android/iOS.
>>54162831
Found an article years ago by a photographer/IT guy who analyzed his photo backups on his Mac over 3 years and found 1% of them corrupted and unrecoverable.
Also, pretty much all current OSs self heal system files.
>>54162870
can you find it again? i'm not trying to be skeptical here, i just find it'd be easier to parse this if i could read the analysis myself
>>54162080
>they got it for free or for cheap
>they earn enough money that a " 2500$ internet machine" is not seen as expensive
>they like the software that "just werks" when they have to teach a class of undergraduate and don't want to spend time doing handouts.
>battery life
>hardware feels nice
maybe because I'm not in america, but I see a lot of professors with business tier laptops, more than I see macfags.
As for the OS, it's often vanilla windows or ubuntu. Once seen a Debian.
>>54162885
Not turning up any results for it, but found these on first page of results.
arstechnica.com/apple/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7/12/
www.jinx.de/zfs/hfsfailure.html
apple.slashdot.org/story/14/06/14/1316255/one-developers-experience-with-real-life-bitrot-under-hfs
>>54162080
have you seen the inside of a macbook and compared it to a laptop of the same price. notice one is a piece of shit. guess which one isn't a piece of shit.
>>54163133
>notice one is a piece of shit.
Macbook obviously
>guess which one isn't a piece of shit.
The one where a RAM chip dying doesn't destroy the entire laptop.
>>54162839
The problem with that is -among other things- same as with 2% of a library's user base wrapping the books they lend into a fucking paper cover of their own design that features a EAN-13 code rather than the library's usual code.
You may loose information, and it will look different to the automated systems and users alike, making everyone else's lifes more difficult.
>>54162080
Because they don't know anything about computers more than the next dumbass
>>54163165
This desu senpai. While I doubt that's every case, it's probably not uncommon.
A large number of professors have never worked a normal job and straight up went from student to researcher to professor without learning anything beyond theoretical level book knowledge.
My C++ prof literally could not figure out how to work a newly installed projector for 10 minutes while everyone awkwardly stared until someone finally went up and helped him hook it up with his Macbook.
>>54162110
People in this thread didn't realize that this is a screenshot of Brian Kernighan's macbook air.
>>54163267
People in this thread didn't realize that Brian Kernighan ignores the POS that is OSX and uses his macbook air solely as a lightweight SSH machine, a role that even a chromebook can fulfill.
>>54163310
Are you speaking for Brian? Are you his secretary?
>>54162255
LOL absolute bull
>>54163343
He speaks for himself.
>>54163375
Wow, he seems to really like Mac
>>54162080
The school buys them at a huge discount.
>>54163375
>only reason for liking mac is that it's small and thin, something apple has never had over competitors
>omg i hate cables and clutter
>lovely air
>vga adapter
topkek
>>54163432
>wants a small and thin laptop with a vga port
He's not asking for much is he?
>>54162162
That's because MechEng needs autocad and similar, which are much better on a Windows machine. CompSci works way better on a *nix based system, hence the large amount of Macs. Also a lot of people in my department use Linux on Lenovo laptops, etc.
>>54163461
>vga
>small
>SSH
What he really wants is a Vaio Pro like Linus uses, he just doesn't know it.
>>54163478
Guess he doesn't care what resolution his powerpoint presentation is displayed on with the institutions shitty projector.
>>54163375
>VGA adatper
>charger
baka desu senpai
They are the 0.0001% of the world who use it for Unix environment. The rest of apple users are your typical clueless normie.
>>54163504
He'd never get around to put Linux on it.
It would stay GNU/Winbuntu.
>>54163574
>It would stay GNU/Winbuntu.
Seeing as all he needs is SSH and Office, I don't see the issue.
things your professor did today
>held four lectures
>marked his students exams
>organized his classes for tomorrow
>contributed to enterprise software
>attended a faculty meeting
>responded to students email queries
>several hours of research
>spent time with family
>had sexual intercourse with attractive wife
things linuxfag 'students' did today
>riced their desktop
>posted about how elite arch users are
>fapped to guro before bed
>>54162758
I think you either didn't read the whole Linus post or we didn't understand it the same way.
I believe he means that HFS+ actually converts case-sensitive files into case-insensitive files. So if you have tons of small configs and libraries and there are some with names like "configs.conf" and "configS.conf" you can't put them on your Apple device or you'll lose one of them due to both being converted into case-insensitivity and having conflicts. You can't get those files back from your Apple device without them being converted into useless versions which need to be fixed manually. I don't have an Apple device so I can't confirm this but I'm pretty sure that's what it means. I'm also pretty sure it won't affect normie holiday photos since they are usually named the same way, all numbers.
So it's ok for Facebooking normies to use Apple, but developers shouldn't. Unless they do everything in seperate filesystems and won't ruin projects for others who use Linux.
>>54163617
>>fapped to guro before bed
Linux wins again. Deal with it nerd.
Student discounts
Why else do you think all campuses are macbook centrals.
