Am i better off with a gtx 790 or a 960?
>>54140159
gtx 790 by far
>>54140159
Dont get neither, unless you wanna get cucked by nvidigoys.
ex 970 user here. Get an R9 390, the 3.5gb vram problem is real
>>54140303
Faggit
>>54140159
Dropp3led the cash for nVidia 980 ti, couldnt be happier
Im just a dude that wants to play fallout 4 with gud graphics what get
Pascal launch next month
>>54140342
>Im okay with 3.5gb of Vram and a 780ti getting outperformed by a 970.
Cuck.
>>54140303
What would you suggest using if not Nvidia? Also why should anybody respect your opinion?
>>54140342
Both have performance issues with dx12 (muh async compute) and the 970 only has 3.5gb of gddr5 vram. An R9 390 is a much better choice. To top it all off nvidia is gimping old video cards and even killing them completely with driver updates to encourage people to buy nrw video cards. You're asking for nothing but trouble with nvidia.
>>54140398
depends on the budget
R9 380 4gb is $150 on newegg rite now and will run it on max with decent FPS.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131673R&cm_re=r9_380_4gb-_-14-131-673R-_-Product
>>54140418
What bs kek.
>>54140342
says the retard buying nvidia
>>54140159
Shove both up your ass and pick the one that feels better.
>>54140508
>>54140418
He's actually right as far as death by driver. My 760's handle the popular shit (yes, Black Ops 3, fuck off), and that's the only game where my display driver stops working randomly? Something smells fuckin' fishy.
>>54140159
>790 or a 960?
fucken kek.
960 is actually less powerful chip than 670, but it doesn't matter thanks to JewWorks.
Kepler is already garbage for new games thanks to shit driver support.
Maxwell will be shat on in 6 months at most, so it's not like a 960 is a smart long-term prospect either.
>>54140159
A 380 4GB, it actually gains performance from DX12 unlike maxwell cards, and it's faster than the 960 anyways
Don't listen to anyone who recommends AMD. Get the 960. You can run fallout on high settings easily with no problems
>>54143908
You literally can't though. I know because I upgraded from a 960 to an R9 390.
>>54140340
The x70 series used to be good... what happened :( ?
>>54141193
Does shadowplay work for you? It's causing display drivers to crash 4/5 times for me and my friend. I'm on a gtx 680 and he's using a 670. Both on windows 10.
It's really starting to piss me off, polaris can't happen soon enough.
GTX 780 has way more processing power, 780 Ti even more so if you can get a good deal.
If you're claiming it's being crippled by newer drivers, roll back to older ones, and/or provide some proof please, I would like to see it personally.
>>54144090
The crippling is happening in newer games where the 970 is outperforming the 780 ti or 780 in many new titles. 970 outperforming a 780 I could understand, but beating a 780 ti is just wrong.
Same with the 960 outperforming a 780.
>>54144114
Muh gaymes
>>54140340
What did you generally use it for?
I'm legitimately asking because I'm sort of semi-considering getting a 970. I play at 1080p and the most intensive game I have is either BF4 or ARMA3, so it's not like I'm pushing the limits.
I'd prefer a 980 or 980Ti, but since I'm from Kangarooland, they cost between $700 and $900, and between $950 and $1500, respectively.
>>54144186
Why not a 380x or a used 7970?
Genuinely curious
>>54140398
no gpu on this earth will make FO4 look good famalam
>>54140159
790 is far more powerful, but also more expensive and has higher power requirements.
Depends on your budget and usage scenario.
>>54144114
And does this also happen on the older drivers for the 780 and 780 Ti? For muh conspiracy to be true, it should just be the newer drivers it happens on only right?
GTX 950
>>54140159
770= 960
780=970
790= housefire
>>54140340
This.
I have a 770 4GB OC and i am hitting my head on the vram cap
>>54144207
I've never run an AMD card before. I don't really consider myself a 'brand loyalist' (although many people here would accuse me of that), I've just always run with Nvidia, and that's what I'm comfortable with. I might give them a look into the future when I NEED to upgrade rather than just WANT to, and I have read a lot of info on here and other sites about similarities and differences.
I've always just had a feeling that AMD is the cheaper alternative - not just cost-wise, but quality-wise as well. I mean, you know, then le 3.5GB meemay happened. It's probably just due to the amount of bullshit spewed out on here.
>>54144274
>770 = 960
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-960-vs-Nvidia-GTX-770/3165vs2174
Please don't insult muh 770.
>>54144290
Whats your boost clock at? Mines at 1215 as it came from the factory it fucking flies.
Best little card ive hard for years but its time to replace it once the 490 comes out
>>54144302
No fucking clue, the label says 1163 but who knows.
>>54143949
Nigga what settings do you use? I have everything but Godrays and AA turned up, and the game looks fine, and I get 60 fps except some demanding areas where it goes to 45. Fx 8350.
>>54144250
old games don't get crippled on old cards with new drivers, it's just Kepler and Maxwell run like shit without very focused driver optimizations.
new games on old Nvidia cards = anal rape with no lube, since they have no incentive to throw resources at cards no longer generating revenue.
AMD is broadly similar but tends to support older cards somewhat longer, partially due to architectural families lasting longer. (GCN started in 2013 with 7700-7900 families, will last through 2017 at the very least with Polaris and likely Vega.)
Wtf is a 790? And to the fag bitching about crippling old cards, my 780 still kicks ass
>>54144186
I like the 970, its okay, but definitly NOT worth the money.
Its old and shit, i only bought it because my old one died and the amd didnt fit
Its okay but not worth the money
I have extreme screen tearing even with the adaptive vsync from nvidida.
I hope its only my shitty display. If not, then fuck this card
btw shitty software, withouth nvidia inspector it would constantly run on 65 degrees with nearly 100% of the power
Normal idle mode is disgustingly hot and loud
I haven't tried the 790 yet but the 960 (wich i am using right now) works very well for any game u wanna play.
>>54144186
970 hits 3.5 3ven at 1080p
>>54140418
i just got my 970 about a week ago and its solid. i dont really care about half a gig of ram since it won't really affect performance enough. upgraded from a 275 i got in 2009 that had 768mb total.
i didn't want to fuck with amd drivers. people say they're good now, but fuck that shit. amd has been shit for so fucking long i really just can't wrap my head around them actually being good. they go on about open source tech but i'm pretty sure their open source drivers are still garbage.
i had a 275 and my bro had a 4870. windows 10 isn't supported by legacy drivers from amd (stopped putting out drivers in 2013), but they are for nvidia. so my bro had to stay on w8.1. the gimping argument is kinda stupid since in this case amd just stops supporting your card completely, but nvidia still lets you use current drivers (march 16 this year). amd says to buy a new card to support w10, nvidia keeps putting out updates. even the 8800 is still supported and that came out in 2006.
>>54144368
amd doesnt support their cards longer than nvidia. nvidia still supports cards from 06, but amd decides to support a card for 4 years
>>54147096
AMD will support the card for 4 years past the arch is discontinued, most people upgrade every 2-3 years anyways and my HD5870 still doesn't have issues running newer games. Just because it's not getting new drivers doesn't mean it doesn't work anymore.
Also they followed up on their "final release driver" with a new driver update last month.
It's understandable since they don't have as many resources to commit like nvidia, but while an architecture is still being use, all cards will see performance gains with drivers. Drivers that benefit a fury x will also benefit the HD7970.
>>54140418
Nvidia ain't gimping shit.
Nvidia has much better software engineers than hardware engineers, and Maxwel is vastly different from Kepler. But sadly both require shit tons of very game specific optimization (especially Kepler) and they simply dont do it anymore. With Maxwell on its way out too, they are gonna start focusing on Pascal.
Is it shitty? Yes it kinda is but they ain't gimping shit.
AMD would probably be the same except they've stuck with GCN since 2012.
>>54144267
This.
Stop blowing too much money on your PC and go outside sometimes. The 950 is already enough for most.
>>54144278
>thats what im comfortable with
How is this even a thing? You're installing plug-n-play hardware and drivers that offer almost identical operating procedures.
As a top-end user, you won't notice the difference in the hardware or coding outside of FPS counts, compute efficiency in something like a mining application, and the fucking UI, all of which change frequently enough within the individual brands that this shouldn't be a matter of "comfort" for you.
>>54140159
> buying a GPU now when new GPU's will be out in a couple of months using a double node shrink
>>54140340
Get a R9 290X 8GB instead. Cheaper and better.
DO NOT BUY REBRANDS
>>54143949
i5 6400 and gtx 960 here, the game runs fucking fine
>>54140398
980 TI
Anything else is a waste of time and money.
>>54140159
>>54147141
Nigga yes they are. That's why I dropped nvidia in favor of AMD.
>>54147141
Exactly that is what I expect. AMD also dropped their 5000 and 6000 series. I will consider switching to AMD if they continue support for GCN 1.2 after Polaris/Vega.
Isn't 790 basically a cucked Titan Z?
Not OP, but just pulled the trigger. Went with this model because it was the only 4GB 960 that was part of the Tomb Raider promo.
>>54149905
That sight is useless and god awful
>>54151725
The 380 is faster and gives you actual DX12 support, I'm so sorry anon. I hope you didn't plan on buying an adaptive sync display either, because you have to pay an additional 100 pound Nvidia Tax for G-sync
>>54151725
Tard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTpNZEW31G0
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2015/08/03/amds-radeon-380-replaces-nvidia-gtx-960-as-the-new-1080p-champ/#5519c6066de7
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2980028/components-graphics/amd-radeon-r9-380-review-the-best-200-graphics-card-you-can-buy-for-1080p-gaming.html?page=2
>>54152715
>>54152732
I was aware of the 380, and considered it. The biggest problem is that I dual boot Windows and OS X (Hackintosh). The 3xx cards are badly broken under current versions of OS X and unlikely to ever be fixed. I don't game under OS X, but I do need fully working OpenGL (OSX is unusable with software rendering) and multiple outputs (only one functional iGPU output with my mobo, and I don't want to constantly swap ports anyway).
>>54152949
Pretty sure the iMAC has a 290 mobile card in it, why would the 300 series have any issues under OSX? and why in gods name would you need OSX?
>>54152985
>Pretty sure the iMAC has a 290 mobile card in it, why would the 300 series have any issues under OSX?
It does, and yes that's what you'd expect. But I researched it, and very few people have gotten their 3xx's working under El Capitan. Something about the framebuffer settings, apparently. It's a severe mess, and I need it to work. Nvidia provides their own OS X drivers.
>and why in gods name would you need OSX?
I do freelance web development, and I'm massively more productive under OSX than Windows or GNU/Linux (I tried them all). It's *nix with pro software available and a polished UI.
Oh, and I forgot to mention an additional reason: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQzLU4HWw2U
I have a lower-end CPU and it apparently causes a bad bottleneck with AMD drivers, but not Nvidia ones. This doesn't show up in most benchmarks, because they're generally done with high-end i7s to remove any CPU limiting.
>>54153148
But you can just make linux function any which way you want it to function.
Far as the CPU stuff goes it seems strange that most benchmarks don't show what those guys report more of the time
>>54153148
Doesn't they also build those 16 GB AMD professional cards in Mac Pros? The largest normal one would have 8 GB.
>>54140398
>fine
yeah, maybe if you're fucking blind.
>>54140383
>pay $650 for gpu
>being beaten by $200 amd gpu
kek
which GPU's will be in new macs?? I hope they go AMD this time, need to upgrade my hackintosh GPU and dont want to get jewed by nvidia.
>>54154010
They've been going AMD for a while.
>>54147141
>NVIDIA ain't gimping
>390 on par with the 980 in recent benchmarks
>3.5 fiasco
>7xx support is ded
>>54147988
Maybe he's more comfortable with Nvidia driver updates or he enjoys using Nvidia Inspector? Those are very reasonable points. And yes, go ahead and poke a joke about how half of those frequent driver releases are broken and crash.
>>54154099
yeah, I know, I'm not really into gaming.. Does AMD have anything similar to mental ray??
>>54153763
>But you can just make linux function any which way you want it to function.
No, not exactly. Whenever I use desktop Linux, it's not like there's one severe dealbreaker. It's death by a thousand tiny issues.
>Desktop tears
>Artefacts in the transparent Unity menu
>50% of software is written in GTK, 50% in Qt. No matter which DE you use, half the apps will have non-native styling and behaviour
>Various commercial apps use non-native GUI which looks absolutely awful
>Can't access Photoshop, Office, other required software (WINE only works 100% on very simple apps and looks horribly ugly; emulation has a performance hit and doesn't help with GPU-accelerated software like Photoshop)
>Xorg is inherently inefficient and insecure
>Updater spews technical gibberish when it goes wrong (I happen to understand most of it since I'm a dev, vast majority of people would have no chance)
inb4
>Aha, I see you're using X distro! You should use Y instead
I promise you, I've tried a fair few. I've used X and Y, and probably Z too. They each have a different set of issues, but they all have plenty of them and many of them are severe.
>You're using display manager A! You should wait for the new B to be widely used, it's much better
I don't doubt it, but I need something that works well right now.
>You're using software µ! It's proprietary and thus bad, use the FOSS equivilant Ω instead.
Missing the point! I need to use the industry standard, µ, and I need it to work well. I don't want to learn amateur clones of it.
That's why I use OSX.
