Why would anyone use this?
I get it for free through uni and Office is the best office suite there is.
>>54126160
But Office 365, specifically? It has always-online DRM.
>>54126148
>0.27 cents a day CAD
>1 terabyte cloud space
>no web based meme documents
I got it for free for a year when I bought a used Acer Aspire Switch 10, shitty laptop but it was dirt cheap and it got the work done
>>54126176
So does Steam, which is installed on 100% of gay men PCs.
>>54126210
You can use steam without being online...
>>54126217
You can use Office365 without being online.
For companies, it makes the licensing easier to deal with when you have multiple machines, a user base spread out geographically, and a desire to use the microsoft online service offerings
You know how "the cloud" seems ridiculous from the point of view of an unemployed neckbeard playing with IRC servers in his basement, but actually can be useful to businesses? It's kind of like that.
>>54126233
I have it on my laptop and it takes away features after not connecting to internet for a few days, so it does have online drm, just not always online
>>54126239
Why would you trust MIcrosoft with your data?
>>54126250
Features of Steam don't work if you're not online, so it's exactly the same. You can still use Office365 while offline.
Besides, this is a total non-issue because the only time you're going to be offline is for minor connectivity interruptions.
>>54126258
Because we don't have child porn on our computers, unlike you.
>>54126239
>For companies, it makes the licensing easier to deal with
This right here is the reason our company pushes our clients to get 365. After years of having cheap-ass clients who don't want the volume licensing go out and get their own individual copies of Office. Then having to worry about keeping track of all that shit and getting blamed when we are unable to find them (mainly 2013, can't get keys from installed 2013 Office unlike 2010 and previous). Just having it all in one single location online and the ability to swap keys around is pure bliss.
>>54126258
Because I am not a pedophile, and it's not "my data" it's my company's data. If microsoft fucks up, well, it's microsoft, I picked a huge ass company that millions of other large, important companies trust. If I packed the company's data on a million spinning discs in the basement, and something gets fucked up, it's my ass on the line, not microsoft's.
>>54126148
because it's simply the best. No alternative can touch it.
>>54126266
>>54126295
>I-I-I don't have anything to hide!
Pathetic argument and you know it.
>>54126304
Pedos should be gassed.
>>54126304
Why do you trust Gaben with your information? Do you think he lets you install Steam on Linux for fun?
>>54126365
What information? Which video games? Not in the same league as the speech I create.
>>54126382
Language is irrelevant. Steam is still gathering data on you and your computer, but you're totally okay with it because it's not big bad Micro$oft come to destroy Linux. Steam isn't even open source.
>>54126437
>Steam is still gathering data on you and your computer,
No, it isn't.
>>54126160
>>54126239
>>54126300
>>54126186
these
>>54126258
>le creamy memey gentoo argument
pls go
>>54126304
I don't HAVE to use Microsoft. There are many other ways I can go about using computers and other document services. I consent to letting MS taking the data they do take, and it really isn't worth two shits either way. I have nothing to hide (from microsoft) because they have yet to ask for any sort of information that I would not have given during a typical retail transaction. You treat this like its the government enforcing big brother on you.
>>54126382
>implying the speech you create is worth a damn
>>54126382
>the speech
You mean the child porn?
Remember how I said business needs are different from neckbeard needs? This is a perfect example.
Someone like you lives in fear that someone will see his child rape porn. A breach is an existential threat to you: you will end up in prison for the rest of your life, this ends any chance of living whatever your idea definition of success is (let's assume for the sake of argument that there is one). One unauthorized party sees it, bang, very ugly end to everything you take for granted.
A company assumes there will be breaches, it is not "will there be a breach" but "what happens when the breach takes place, and how often will that be"
NSA or LEO warrant? Probably not a big problem as long as it doesn't end up in the news or cause a material loss to the business (it usually doesn't). There's a higher risk of this with "the cloud", for sure.
Someone hacks in and steals data? Depends on who and why, could be nothing, could be bad. There's not much higher risk here with "the cloud", arguably it's even lower depending on the setup. And if it happens, will the guy who chose "the cloud" be blamed? Probably not, with everyone else doing it too. This is called "industry best practices" and you follow them to diffuse the responsibility and thus limit the damage to your career should something go wrong.
A business is not you. A business has different concerns.
>>54126448
Yes it is, and it's closed source so you can't even be sure of what it's doing.
It knows who you are, where you live, your operating system type, what games you like, and who your Steam friends are.
>>54126448
lol word of advice.
If you aren't paying for a product, chances are you are the product.
>>54126148
Rolling release.
I got 4 years for 80 dollars with their office university program + 10 TB onedrive space + 60 Skype minutes
Why would I not use that??
>>54126463
>>54126478
Would you let people be in the bathroom while you're taking a shit? Of course you wouldn't. Does that mean you're doing something morally or legally wrong? No, it doesn't.
Also, you guys are fucking disgusting. We're talking about TEXT-based speech here (though the argument remains the same for all data). Take your projections to another thread.
Further, information is always up to interpretation. It's possible to do nothing wrong and have that information be interpreted in such a way that suggests you did. That's at least part of why privacy is important and you shouldn't give it up so easy.
>>54126575
>Would you let people be in the bathroom while you're taking a shit? Of course you wouldn't. Does that mean you're doing something morally or legally wrong? No, it doesn't.
I'm not really understanding the parallel you are trying to draw here between putting my company's transaction data on hardware that I can't physically see because it's at a data center, and taking a shit in public.
Can you explain that to me in a way that convinces me that you're not a pedophile who believes his kiddie porn stash is morally ok? Because that is how you are talking right now, even though you probably think you're talking like a pie-in-the-sky lawrence lessig type. You're not, and we can see right through you.
i use it for school. my college offers it for free since they adopted it.
ever since they adopted it my college doesn't offer office at a steep discount or free via student store or department elms accounts anymore.
i tried using libreoffice but half the doc and powerpoint files i receive from my professors don't open correctly in it.
>>54126536
>If you aren't paying for a product, chances are you are the product.
It's like I'm literally on Reddit.
The Steam application is a platform so Steam can distribute games that they get a cut of when I buy them. They don't have any economic incentive to go through my computer, and if they did, we would know..
>>54126675
You're a hypocrite and a faggot and it's a pity that this thread is too old for you to delete it.
/cancer
>>54126675
>being this delusional
whatever helps you sleep at night man
>>54126619
>Can you explain that to me in a way that convinces me that you're not a pedophile who believes his kiddie porn stash is morally ok?
You're not a pedo, right? And you don't watch any other sort of immoral stuff, like rape/murder videos? Then surely you'd be okay with going on TV and being hooked up to a lie detector while people ask you about what porn you like, right?
>>54126755
So basically, your argument is "I have really fucked up porn, therefore businesses should continue using big ass servers on the 40th floor of some building chosen for its prestige value rather than its latency, and latency optimization/failover time reduction/general reliability improvements are the equivalent of taking a shit in public, because data equals porn"
Good job not convincing me of anything other than that I was right.
>>54126217
No.
>>54126148
They work in a Microsoft-only office.
>>54126148
Because they are to stupid to know how to type Libre Office into a search engine?
>>54126148
Because corporations fear change of anything they don't understand. Higher ups will gimp infrastructure for their comfortable ignorance, not understanding the conquences.
>>54126148
Why wouldn't they, I force all of our customers to replace their horrendous SBS-servers for Office365 all day erry day.
Ez money
>>54126148
because other people also use it
Bill Gates
>>54126217
>>54126210
No, it isn't, and, no, you can't. Fucktards.
>>54128363
Seems like they understand it better than you, hence why you're not the higher up.
Maybe this computer stuff isn't for you
>>54128601
>SBS
Triggered
>>54126452
He's just mad because "normies" are becoming commonplace on /g/ and not all of us are wear tin foil hats and are deathly afraid of "THE BOTNET OH GOD". Seriously, it's good to see people on /g/ actually have common sense.
I mean, usually you get called a fucking shill if you're even remotely normal. It's a breath of fresh air that I'm not the only one who can trust MS. Seriously.
>>54133558
I used to be a tin foil type, still am with regard to actual personal data (for instance I don't like posting my personal opinions on Facebook)
But I realized when I grew up that it's not so black and white, especially as computers get more and more involved in live
Who gives a shit if my excel needs to register with Microsoft, I'm not using it to track my sexual fantasies about my hot cousin. That stuff stays in my head where it belongs.
>>54126148
Why did people keep upgrading their office suite every other year when Word 95/97 would have literally taken care of all their needs?
Some people update just because its new so its gotta be better and faster right? People been told for years to upgrade, so that's what they do.
Personally I don't get why anyone would want to chain themselves up to always online requirement of anything other than games, it's understandable for multiplayer but fuck I don't want my word processor to NEED to be online for me to type up some shit.
>>54126452
pay directly the NSA at this point, goy
>>54126148
Because Exchange...
>>54128601
>>54132741
SBS 2011 was fine. Especially when it was automated.
Office365 is not a replacement for SBS. That would be Server Essentials. O365 can augment however, for companies that did use Exchange / SharePoint.
>>54135487
>255 characters should be enough for everyone
Why do tinfoil types love struggling with obsolete shit?
>>54135240
Are you me?
I used to be this exact same way. I know it took me a while to grow up but after being on /g/ for so long, you start to grow tired of the immaturity. I know I called myself a "normie" just not and I'm not sure that's entirely certain but even things like anime on /g/ bother me. I'm here to talk about technology, not who's the most kawaii, senpai.
I get especially tired of going into desktop threads and seeing nothing but fucking anime waifu weeb shit. If I show off my desktop with some interesting artwork, zero replies. I bet if I posted with some hentai/anime girl doing a suggestive pose, I'd garner more attention or something but I'm not here for attention and honestly, it just gets so old...
Back on topic, you're completely right, I try to keep my crazy ass fetishes and whatnot in my head, not on my hard drive. I don't think the police are going to come barging through my door any second but other people sometimes use my laptop and it's more about practicality.
>>54135534
/pol/ please try harder next time
they didnt have internet surveilance back then so it doesnt apply to now
>>54136836
sure, goy
>>54126148
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFCSp23xl40
>>54126176
That's like complaining that Google Docs is always online DRM.
The files are saved locally in your OneDrive so you can still access them. I think it's important to have ways to view and edit these files locally but these web apps make collaboration significantly easier.
>>54136954
Collaboration implies knowing people, filthy normie
Would you want to be waterboarded until you confess all your sickest desires? That's what collaboration means
>>54126148
Because their employer requires it.
>>54126176
No it doesn't. If you install the programs on your computer, you can most certainly go offline for up to 2 months I think.
>>54130315
but you can use it offline.
Becauae it lets me manage all of my client's office licenses and email accounts from one place.
>>54136596
Most users who are not in a corporate environment and even the ones who are in a corporate environment do not use the full capabilities of Microsoft Office.
It's not using obsolete shit, it is only obsolete if it no longer performs the task you need it to because the new stuff will do it better. If the secretary just types up on her computer and formatting is already the tip of her computer expertise what makes you think newer will be better for these users? Not everyone is a techie, hate to say it but most of the people who use Microsoft Word could get their needs met using Wordpad.
>>54138666
>what happened to my data? stupid Microsoft lost my data!
no, you just forgot that "just werks" has a lot going on under the hood
It's even more important when your "stupid normie luser secretary" doesn't read compatibility messages that Microsoft totally just puts in their to piss us off. Keeping up to date minimizes the risks of having different kinds of lusers exchanging revisions of the same file
>>54139008
>Keeping up to date minimizes the risks of having different kinds of lusers exchanging revisions of the same file
Extremely specific situation there, for which most users completely ignore any functionality that the office suite may provide. Nobody is claiming that MSO isn't a good office suite, its functionality for the vast majority of users will simply boil down to MSWord and it will be used in a no different manner than Wordpad.
>>54139200
Most users ignoring it doesn't mean it's not an issue, it just means they aren't savvy enough to figure out why they're having a problem. It just gets written off as "some computer thing".
I gather you don't do this stuff for a living, if you do I feel sorry for your users.
Got it free for my study, i can download the office program and activate it on 5pcs
>>54126148
It's good for small buisnesses. Includes the main stuff they need.
> Office licenses
> Easy email solution
> Shit loads of cloud storage
I also pronounce it "Office Three-Six-Five"
> Office 365
But it's a leap year...
>>54126148
Because my college have a parternship with microsoft and we give as 5 copies of office 365 and 1 tb of space on onedrive
>>54126148
My company uses it.
