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So why are you using BSD Anon?
>>54124062
I'm not.
>>54124062
Only /g/ refers to the BSD family as "BSD". If you asked an OpenBSDer if he "used BSD", he would probably kill you.
>>54124108
Spare me the pedantry please.
Is there a better way to refer to all of the BSDs at once?
I still call it BSD UNIX. FITE ME.
>>54124133
>Is there a better way to refer to all of the BSDs at once?
"BSD-family"
I don't see why you would in this context though, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD etc are vastly different.
>>54124504
Because If I made 3 threads, the mods would ban me for flooding and no one would post enough to keep one above page 5.
>>54124551
>there aren't any people who use BSD
Take a hint.
>>54124568
Then why is this thread getting replies anon-kun-san?
Because Debian crashed and burned, and nothing else would run. I installed OpenBSD.
I don't really see the big deal so far. I just really dislike the package management. It was really easy to set up, I'll give it that.
>>54124602
What are you running it on?
>>54124062
Because of pic related.
>>54124062
better than linux, but unlike osx allows me to run linux apps
i like some small features grandfathered from unix, like ctrl+t and others
>>54124580
Only shitposts. Do you see any actual BSD users ITT?
>>54124621
That's a practical use for FreeBSD. How many TB on your server? What do you use it for?
>>54124627
Have you used 10.3 with x64 Linux compat yet?
>>54124640
yeah
here:
>>54124627
>>54124621
>>54124602
>>54124062
I run FreeBSD because I want a traditional UNIX-like system capable of performing modern tasks. FreeBSD is in the sweet spot. It does most of what I want. It doesn't do things I don't want.
I've run it at various points in the (distant) past, and have been running it most recently for about 2 years.
It's good.
>>54124699
Do you do any gaming, development, or artwork on it?
>>54124720
For gaming: I play Quake 3 and QuakeWorld.
For development: not much, sometimes a bit of hacking on a janky Quakeworld mod I'm working on. A bunch of scripting to automate tasks.
For artwork: I work with audio, primarily recording at this moment. Audacity is good enough for home use. Occasionally I'll run software that needs wine or a virtual machine (softsynths, DAWs, etc.). For graphics gimp has been good enough for me, but I'm not a visual artist.
>>54124698
>yeah
>here
It's people without no fucking clue what they're doing and trying to run Quake 3 on it.
Fucking kek, okay enjoy your BSD thread. I'm sure you have a lot of important computer stuff to discuss.
>>54124617
An old iBook G4. I needed a laptop and this one still works well, so I figured I'd use it for programming.
I'm writing a bunch of small utilities and porting a window manager from xlib to xcb, rewriting it in the process, to learn a bit of C.
That's all I'm using it for, all I run at the moment is X, catwm (the wm I'm porting), urxvt and vim.
>>54124771
Does Quake 3 run natively or use the Linux compatibility?
>>54124790
These people know just as much as the average Linux user.
>>54124852
Is that PPC or x86?
>>54124062
Real UNIX without a support contract that runs on damn near anything.
Probably putting NetBSD on my Itanium space heater (if it works, otherwise I'm stuck with winshit 2k3/8) and OpenBSD on some SPARC boxes soon.
>>54125019
Q3 runs natively, as does Quakeworld. ioquake3 for Q3, and ezquake for Quakeworld. Or sometimes Darkplaces for Q1/Quakeworld.
Quite a few (older) games run acceptably in WIne, in my experience. Infinity Engine games (Planescape: Torment, Icewind Dale, etc.), Painkiller, a lot of VNs, whatever. I don't play many new games.
>>54125086
What do you use those for? Is it hard to get software for Itanium?
>>54125019
Still PPC. It's really cool how all BSDs have support for all these architectures.
>>54125173
Well the BSDs will always support POWER because it's a major server architecture.
>>54124062
Does anyone else use PCBSD?
I'm considering getting into BSD. I'm already way proficient with gunoo loonux. Which BSD will cause me the least grief?
>>54125364
>Which BSD will cause me the least grief?
Probably PCBSD or GhostBSD. The other BSD's don't even come with DE's.
>>54125406
thanks m88
>>54125312
I was planning on trying PC-BSD once 10.3 is released.
But I checked 5 minutes ago, and apparently 10.3 was released last month.
I don't see any announcement for this. Was there an announcement that I missed? Do these people have any idea what they're doing?
>>54125406
OpenBSD comes with WMs and works well as a desktop OS
>>54125424
Check their GitHub page and ask them what's going on.
>>54125432
Windows managers aren't desktop environments. The default desktop on OpenBSD looks like Windows 1.0.
>>54125454
>Windows managers aren't desktop environments
I'm well aware, that's why I specified.
>Windows managers aren't desktop environments 1.0
So what?
I really really really want to but they dont have the drivers for my t440p, and i don't feel like going xorg-less. I even tried dragonfly and net bsd to no avail..
>>54125484
>BSD
>no hardware support
geee why am i not surprised
>>54125473
They asked for something that wouldn't be troublesome, like a standard Linux distribution. OpenBSD is not that. It doesn't even have a graphical installer.
>>54125484
>my t440p
What is this?
>>54125424
you are wrong, freebsd released 10.3 on 4/4, PC-BSD the next day.
https://www.freebsd.org/releases/10.3R/schedule.html
>>54125019
>These people know just as much as the average Linux user.
Stay delusional, people ITT doesn't even know what a window manager is and can't explain how BSD differs from Linux.
>>54125500
If he's proficient with Linux like he claims he shouldn't be scared of the CLI and should have no issues with installing or using OpenBSD.
>>54125500
Thinkpad, to be more specific there were no drivers for my nvidia card.
>>54125500
OpenBSD is really easy to install. The hardest part for me was making it boot up by default, which I solved by reading a bit of OpenFirmware documentation on some NetBSD website.
>>54125524
He said he's good with Linux in 2016, not 1996.
>>54125173
Because they don't have anything else to make them relevant.
>>54125542
Anon please, if you're proficient with Linux you can use the command like regardless of the current year.
>>54124062
FreeBSD for
>muh superior ZFS implementation
>>54125516
That's FreeBSD.
Where is PC-BSD's release announcement?
I'm looking at their website, and here is what convinced me to write "last month" for the 10.3 release of PC-BSD.
http://download.pcbsd.org/iso/10.3-RELEASE/amd64/
>RELEASE-03-31-2016
>Last modified 31-Mar-2016
>>54125525
Oh. NVIDIA does make drivers for FreeBSD. Maybe you should try it instead.
>>54125541
>OpenBSD is really easy to install.
Total lie. It's a text based install, which is the hardest kind of install. If you type the wrong thing in you can fuck up the whole installation.
>>54125569
Not true. Not everyone is an Arch tryhard or a Gentoo wizard. Also, 90% of Linux distros come with a graphical installer in the current year of our Lord 2016.
>>54125583
Not him, I'm a Linux fag... But PC-BSD is just a FreeBSD distro
>>54125541
If your OS doesn't boot up by default it's not an OS
>>54125599
In the Linux world, every distro has their own release announcements.
Why wouldn't PC-BSD have a release announcement for PC-BSD when there's a new release of PC-BSD?
>>54125596
>Not true. Not everyone is an Arch tryhard or a Gentoo wizard
Irrelevant, if you can't use the command line you are not a proficient Linux user.
>Also, 90% of Linux distros come with a graphical installer in the current year of our Lord 2016.
Also irrelevant.
>>54125609
That's just some problems with Open Firmware not present on other architectures, and even then his issue can be fixed.
>>54125626
>Irrelevant, if you can't use the command line you are not a proficient Linux user.
This isn't true. You don't need to use the command line to be a proficient Linux user. Do you really think most Ubuntu users use the command line very often, if at all?
>Also irrelevant.
It's very relevant, puffyfag.
Why don't you OpenBSD fags make a proper normie distro like PCBSD or GhostBSD? There's nothing stopping you from doing it.
>>54125484
>xorgless
>>54125625
>In the Linux world, every distro has their own release announcements.
This is not the Linux world.
>Why wouldn't PC-BSD have a release announcement for PC-BSD when there's a new release of PC-BSD?
PC-BSD *is* FreeBSD. It makes no sense in having a separate version number, because it literally is FreeBSD.
It's like Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server. They don't have separate announcements, because they are the same thing but with slightly different default configuration and installed software
>>54125596
Thats what i tried first, i assumed this thread was about freeBSD before i used my brain.
>>54125625
https://blog.pcbsd.org/2015/09/new-release-schedule-for-pc-bsd/
>>54125364
>>54125406
>>54125500
>>54125524
>>54125541
>>54125542
>>54125569
>>54125596
I said least grief. I'm good with linux but I'm astutely aware that BSD is a different monster and I'll need some practice to adjust. DEs are a great thing to fall back on. DEs do not disallow me from using the CLI.
>>54125686
>It's like Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server.
Except a better comparison would be Ubuntu and Mint, since it's done by a different team of devs, iirc.
Why is this troll so committed to ruining BSD threads?
>>54125662
>You don't need to use the command line to be a proficient Linux user.
Top kek
>>54125686
>PC-BSD *is* FreeBSD. It makes no sense in having a separate version number, because it literally is FreeBSD.
I never asked for a separate version number.
What is wrong with you?
>>54125691
Yeah, they have a blog. That's where they should announce new releases. But they didn't announce the latest release.
Did they forget the passowrd to login?
>>54125659
>Not present on other archetectures
So, Openbsd is only functional on 80's mips and vax stations. While 90% of the world's PCS can't.
>New-age skiddies
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SPVYxsgdBU
>>54125686
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu and the other *buntus have separate release announcements.
e.g.
http://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-15-10/
http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-15-10-release/
>>54125708
It's not a better comparison, because PC-BSD and FreeBSD are made by the same fucking people.
>>54125716
>I never asked for a separate version number.
>What is wrong with you?
You're asking for a HURR DURR RELEASE ANOUNCEMENT for no reason than to satisfy some autistic need.
PC-BSD *is* FreeBSD. When you announce a new version of FreeBSD it is given that PC-BSD is updated.
Because FreeBSD has a code of conduct that keeps me safe from the shitlords.
https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html
>>54125749
They have separate maintainers. PC-BSD have the exact same maintainers as FreeBSD.
This isn't Linux. PC-BSD is literally FreeBSD, not some FreeBSD derivative.
>>54125716
If you had read the entry you would have learned that they are getting ready to announce it soon, but it isn't ready yet, which is why they haven't announced it.
>>54125729
90% of the world's PCs run on PowerPC?
>>54125797
X86 pc's :^$)
>>54125794
That blog entry is from September. It's April now.
>but it isn't ready yet,
Go to their website. Click "download". Even without announcing a release, they're serving 10.3 up now, even on the front page.
>>54125780
>It's not a better comparison, because PC-BSD and FreeBSD are made by the same fucking people.
>>54125793
>They have separate maintainers. PC-BSD have the exact same maintainers as FreeBSD.
Source?
According to their websites, FreeBSD is developed by The FreeBSD Project, and PC-BSD is developed by a corporation called iXsystems.
>>54125840
Weird. /r/pcbsd didn't have an announcement in it either.
Lumina is default now, which is exciting.
>>54125710
> why is some faggot on 4chan shitting up a thread
> guys! guys! stop liking what i don`t like
> you like x instead of y. y is for niggers
every 4chan thread ever.
>>54125780
>because PC-BSD and FreeBSD are made by the same fucking people
But they are not though. PC-BSD is developed by iXsystems. FreeBSD is developed by the FreeBSD project
>>54125864
Seems like my knowledge is a bit outdated (by ten years!!!)
>>54125884
Okay, I guess you should kill yourself in an autistic fit of rage then since there is no release announcement.
>>54125890
Don't feel bad. The PC-BSD website is also outdated (but only by a few months).
>>54125901
>There is nothing wrong with posting incorrect statements! You should kill yourself for explaining why I was wrong, but I wasn't wrong, because I'm never wrong! La la la la la, I can't hear you!
Good lord. You could at least own up to your mistake and apologize for (accidentally) spreading misinformation, instead of going back on the offensive.
>>54125901
I don't give a fuck about your release announcements m8. Guess all that lack of hardware support is really getting to you.
>>54125662
>Do you really think most Ubuntu users use the command line very often, if at all?
No, and nobody thinks that Ubuntu users are proficient linux users.
>>54125961
>I like to pretend I know shit about shit
>>54125961
>No, and nobody thinks that Ubuntu users are proficient linux users.
>>54126026
They're not proficient linux users, you fucktard. Could you please leave this thread?
>>54126026
Those guys would use the CLI, though.
>>54126041
>use linux to make robots that run linux
>not proficient linux users
Lol what can you do? Make animu wallpapers?
Faggot.
>>54126042
Yes. This was more about disproving the Noobuntu stereotype.
>>54125019
>Does Quake 3 run natively or use the Linux compatibility?
if it's open source, it's certainly native
>>54126063
What can you do other than shitposting in BSD threads?
>>54125454
>The default desktop on OpenBSD looks like Windows 1.0.
>he doesn't know about cwm
it's one of the best WMs ever
Don't listen to the zealots, openbsd is a meme OS. It doesn't have a graphical installer or a proper public key infrastructure and the developers still think chroot is a security mechanism like it's the 90s. Seriously, just stay away. Use freebsd like a sane person.
>>54125596
>Total lie. It's a text based install, which is the hardest kind of install. If you type the wrong thing in you can fuck up the whole installation.
you are fucking retarded
you can almost mash the enter key and it installs itself
>>54125710
its making me miss angela
>>54124108
>>54124133
>>54124504
???
they're all BSDs
>>54124790
quake is a meme
>>54125364
openbsd, thenman afterboot
pkg_add {kde,gnome,xfce}
reboot
>>54125596
re: install. keep man fdisk open on another device. web manuals bro.
>>54126080
cult status, great WM
>>54126397
As a piece of advice, you should've also told him to fetch the ftplist from the main OpenBSD server.
It'll spare him some grief when trying to figure out what mirror to use.
>>54124062
FreeBSD because I like it.
I like when demon's dance on my desktop.
>>54125151
>What do you use those for?
Server/daily driving, some other stuff is also just experimentation, going to rack a couple ultra 5s/1s and make a poorfag cluster for the fuck of it
The Itanic is just a novelty at this point, a rare one-off from IBM that barely sold jack and was so different from HP implementations that it's pretty much only compatible with Windows, if I can't get a *BSD to run on it I'm fucked, otherwise I'll use it as a space heater/terminal server and "research" box
>>54125100
Infinity Engine games you could run in GemRB natively instead of using Wine...
>>54130431
If we're talking about reverse engineering efforts there's also stuff like OpenXcom and OpenMW.
OpenXcom works well in OpenBSD last time I tested it.
>>54130505
How well does Kodi run on OpenBSD? Have you tried RetroArch?
>>54130522
Never had any interest in Kodi.
I have yet to try RetroArch.
It'll most likely compile, since they tried making it portable and all.
>>54130431
Just checked this thread again and wanted to say thank you. I hadn't heard of GemRB before. And it's right there in /usr/ports; building it now.
I would switch to OpenBSD in a heart beat if it had hardware accelerated graphics drivers.
>>54126072
>REEEEEEEE
>ANIMUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>54126137
>Use freebsd like a cucked person
ftfy
ganoo dropped support for my architecture
>>54130737
and SSD support
>2016
>>54130910
what architecture?
>>54124108
>>54124504
>I'd just like to interject for a moment...
>>54124062
i don't know..
really though because it's so easy to use. and consistent.
I'm going to buy a thinkpad for openbsd. I don't use it now because my desktop doesn't work with it.
