What distros does /g/ use? Why?
>>54120781
Ubuntu.
Hassle-free.
I get shit done.
Ubuntu MATE currently, switching to regular Ubuntu when 16.04 cums out
>unity kek
i actually prefer it
Xubuntu. Runs well on my old Mac mini with only 2gb ram.
>>54121048
M A C F A G
>>54120781
Gentoo. It is amazing. I can have multiple conflicting versions of packages, or 64 and 32 bit libraries at once. And it's all fine because the programs that depend on specific architectures or specific versions of programs are compiled from source, so portage just links them with the version it knows it depends on.
See https://devmanual.gentoo.org/general-concepts/slotting/ and https://www.gentoo.org/support/news-items/2015-03-28-true-multilib.html
If you've ever had to deal with dependency issues with packages you'll know why this is awesome.
Also being able to manually include (or exclude) certain features from any package or your kernel is extremely useful. For example, I was able to simply remove the SSL heartbeat extension and recompile my packages when the heartbleed vuln came out.
Did I even mention Portage?
>Portage works without any external repo.
>Portage supports using llvm icc etc to build with.
>Portage supports distcc.
>Portage supports slotting of dependencies.(multiple versions of python ruby gtk etc)
>Portage supports multiple kernels BSD Fedora debian etc.
>Portage can thread package installs and downloads.
>>54120781
Kubuntu 16.04. I love how Plasma 5 looks (and how customizable it is) and I love how hassle-free Ubuntu is, so it's perfect for me.
>>54121251
What theme is this?
>>54121321
It's Breeze AlphaBlack but with the Breeze Dark color scheme. The colors are also just regular Breeze Dark.
I use Mint because it just werks and i am a noob in Linux and then i have Puppy installed to sd card (witch is in card slot in my 4G pocket wifi modem) that i can use in any machine i come across.
Xubuntu because I don't want to deal with any necessary bullshit like with unity or any other horse crap.
>>54120781
Ubuntu LTS because I don't want my shit breaking during crunch time. Manjaro is what I use in VMs, but I won't use it long term until the devs can stop acting like /pol/.
>>54121095
>Portage can thread package installs and downloads
Might have to give Gentoo another look. Do you at least get some sort of GUI updater so you don't have to remember to type in an update command every day?
Debian testing. Overall, the most best distribution after I tested like 50 or so distros.
Ubuntu LTS because I don't have a crippling inferiority complex.
Hello there /g/ i have a simple question:
What is the best linux distro for an absolute beginner
>>54121737
Linux Mint maybe but then Kubuntu once you become experienced, Kubuntu looks a lot like Windows (assuming you came from Windows) and is more customizable though honestly you can pick from Ubuntu (Unity), Kubuntu, Ubuntu MATE, Xubuntu, or Ubuntu GNOME as they are all simple to use in my opinion
>>54121737
gentoo hardened, darling it makes we want to suck so much! (bbc)
>>54121898
Chris 8================D
dev
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>>54121652
Just alias it
>>54120781
I use Gentoo Hardened, mostly because it's the only distro I found that actually lets me choose what to install and what garbage to remove.
I also have a mild degree of paranoia and would prefer it if I could isolate e.g. Firefox to at least some degree, plus protect myself from common exploit patterns.
>>54121737
Ubuntu
>>54121941
wow so kawaii!! what kernel features do you have M or enabled in the .config of a hardende patched kernel?
dont let all those features go to waste just to talk BS in this thread or did you?? ^^ xxx
>>54121377
Thank you, I'll try that when the stable comes out.
I use the distro where I poop in your moms face
>>54120781
Debian stable.
It's libre ootb and once it just werks, it doesn't stop. Plus there are thousands of packages, all of which receive near-instant security updates
>>54121881
>Kubuntu looks a lot like Windows
I don't see how this is supposed to be a good thing. Just because somebody is new to Linux doesn't mean they want a Windows clone - otherwise they would just continue using Windows. So presumably, they stopped using Windows for a reason.
Also, suggesting Mint to anybody is a cruel joke IMO. It's one of the least noteworthy distros out there - it's upstream of nothing, and contributes nothing worth noting. Plus, it has plenty of security issues.
>>54121737
I set up mint yesterday and it's so far been the easiest distro I've tried. I haven't had to use the terminal for anything yet.
>>54121916
>>54121977
>>54122002
Did you know, if you type # followed by some word into the name field of your post (like “#faggot”), you can get post statistics and e-fame on 4chan?
>>54122052
I love #linux #faggots and #pies
I run Ubuntu - Windows 10 Edition
>>54122099
Sorta blows my mind that there was hype for the launch of Windows XP
It's so unexciting now
>>54122052
wow kawaii, not tell me is your kernel ASLR hardened?
What about GRBAC do you know its conf? why do you use it? do you just run hardened because it sounds cool?
>>54122099
>dat fucking serial
Used it so many times. Everyone used it.
As soon as I see FCKGW I know what it's about.
It's burned into my mind.
I'm going to be that faggot and say OpenSUSE. With OBS and package building it's just better than Ubuntu, and has fewer rough edges than Arch.
>>54121095
Gentoo users are rapidly replacing Archfags as /g/'s resident blowhards.You guys want a medal or something?It's really not that impressive.
>>54122199
It's kind of funny how far down MS has gone. People went from being hyped about a new release to dreading them. MS has to resort to hiring astroturfers to defend their practices on social media and websites like this one.
>>54122324
Lel, just answering the OP, fag. And no, using an OS as easy as gentoo is nothing to brag about
>>54122349
Where did it start?
Vista, I'd say. What a piece of shit that was
>>54121251
>I love how plasma 5 looks
I'd do too if I hadn't amd drivers which sperg all over the place
Debian minimal, under 700 packages desu~
>>54120781
Elementary OS
Looks good, just werks, excellent workflow. Considering switching to Fedora, because of Docker and KVM.
>>54120781
Fedora because it's maintained by real developers not volunteer faggots.
>>54120781
Arch, AUR and the Wiki
>>54120781
Ubuntu, it just works, and unity uses little vertical screen space.
>>54121095
>portage
>literally takes 5 minutes to check dependencies for something as trivial as screenfetch
>>54122580
Everybody is a volunteer in linux, darling
>>54123144
Virtually every large company has an entire department full of paid Linux developers
>>54123222
Developers of the company's software, not the linux distro.
>>54123074
Takes 5 seconds here
>>54120781
Ubuntu
>>54123266
Nope, a buddy of mine does full time Linux kernel at Facebook (btrfs)
Debian because its the perfect mix between usability and user freedom.
arch, i like to run latest and greatest software. always gets new gnome versions first. installation is a bit painful, but besides it isnt much different than, say, opensuse.
>>54120781
Arch on Server and rPi
Xubuntu on laptop
>>54122531
SAUCE
>>54121095
fuck off faggot
gentoo is trash
either use ubuntu or it variation or just stick to 10 or osx
>>54120781
Fedora because it's the best choice for the Linux desktop.
Funtoo and Arch. Amazing distro's.
Manjaro.
Just werks, aur, not ubuntu.
>>54120781
Debian on servers and ubuntu on GUI's.
>>54123669
care to elaborate? you have some obscure de that only werks on ubanto?
Fedora, family. Doesn't run hot like Debian on my chinkpad, nice package system and development done by way more professionals. If the creator of Linux uses it, you know its fucking good.
Arch is the next one I'd recommend, but its really not worth the fucking loops and configuration time you need to go through when something like Fedora is ready to go out of the box with no hassle and can still be heavily customized and secure.
>>54120983
This.
>>54121708
Any tips for using debian testing for someone coming from Xubuntu?
>>54121652
>type in an update command every day
1. Like it's so much work to type a short line of text or just alias it.
2. What. The. Fuck? This isn't windows. Update/upgrade when you feel like it or if you need to. Not every day like a slave.
3. There's this thing called scheduled tasks. wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Cron
>>54123506
>literally "stop liking what I don't like" the post
I tried using Fedora but the lack of pacakges and package management was a major turn off. I tried copr and all that but still not as smooth as I would like it. Similar story with OpenSuse. I will probably do a fresh Xubuntu or Ubuntu MATE 16.04 install.
>>54121652
>Do you at least get some sort of GUI updater so you don't have to remember to type in an update command every day?
Because running a GUI program once a day is easier than typing a command once a day how, exactly?
Also, see >>54126178
>>54123283
That's because you have less than 500 packages installed.
>>54120781
Fedora
Professionally maintained and free as in beer.
>>54120781
bout to give pcbsd a go, the lumina desktop looks interesting, and may just turn out to be everything I had hoped lxqt would be
>>54121652
don't bother, portage isn't as good as it first appears, and lot's of shit aren't in the repo and you have to manually download an ebuild or some shit, it gets annoying fast. the complex part is supposed to be getting it up and running, not customizing it
>>54126214
More like 2000
>>54123144
No faggot. RedHat actually makes money from Linux.
>>54126194
>lack of packages
What do you mean? Literally everything I found on any other distro is on Fedora, did you not add any other repo's to it?
>>54126389
Because they make brittle software that's underdocumented, confusing, easy to break and hard to debug; and then sell support.
It's a flawless business strategy.
>>54126396
I did add RPMFusion and some Copr repos but it feels a bit off an insecure. I don't like relying on RPMfusion to update their packages whenever a new Fedora version gets released also.
>>54120781
LFS, because JUST WERKS™.
>>54126389
actually redhat makes money from tech support, redhat is zero cost just like the rest of linux, all their money comes from contracting support
>>54123506
Damn, saltier than an archfag
OS Keks, and maybe Kubuntu or Neon when I get my next laptop
>>54126407
>>54126423
RH sells support and licenses for their software.
The "we make it buggy so we can charge more" meme needs to die.
RH pushes Linux forward and is responsible for your init system, systemd.
>>54126423
And $proprietary_software_company makes money from licensing, all their money comes from licensing.
Maybe no one sells software.
>>54121251
is 16.04 stable compared to 15.10?
>>54126459
Technically not true. systemd started as Lennart Poettering's hobby project, not a RH project.
>>54126459
>RH pushes Linux forward and is responsible for your init system, systemd.
I use OpenRC actually.
It's funny, we use systemd at work and it's significantly more brittle, underdocumented, buggy and hard to debug.
>>54126475
RH made it mainstream and possible instead of just a meme.
>>54126511
>I use OpenRC actually.
Autist spotted. Did you compile the entire kernel yourself just so you could avoid systemd? Do you enjoy having to wait longer for your computer to start?
>It's funny, we use systemd at work and it's significantly more brittle, underdocumented, buggy and hard to debug.
That must be why it's deployed on mission critical RH servers and OpenRC is a meme.
>>54126516
>Did you compile the entire kernel yourself just so you could avoid systemd?
Funny, you say this as if prebuilt kernels are somehow tied to systemd.
>Do you enjoy having to wait longer for your computer to start?
Ah, the classic “systemd is better because omg it boots so much faster” non-argument. Never mind the fact I'm booting from an SSD RAID and have parallel init enabled. Never mind the fact that the slowest part of boot is the kernel enumerating my 10 hard drives. Never mind the fact that I almost never cold boot any way.
Do you have anything more substantial than that?
>That must be why it's deployed on mission critical RH servers
Yes, by companies spending large sums of money paying Red Hat to make it work properly. (As opposed to the stock stability experience you get out of free distros)
>>54126593
>Yes, by companies spending large sums of money paying Red Hat to make it work properly. (As opposed to the stock stability experience you get out of free distros)
You're retarded if you think companies wouldn't use free distros if they could get away with it. RedHat is superior, and systemd is one of the many things that makes it superior to Arch, or whatever meme you're running.
> I almost never cold boot any way.
That's because your mom pays the electrical bill.
It doesn't matter what fucking distro you use, the drivers are all the same. Nothing changes. You get the same shit, but some of it is by default others packages.
>>54126631
>You're retarded if you think companies wouldn't use free distros if they could get away with it.
They can't, because all of the RedHat-infected free software distros are brittle as fuck. That's my entire point.
>That's because your mom pays the electrical bill.
It's part of the rent, but whatever.
>>54126688
So why don't super computers and data centers use whatever meme you're using instead of "Red Had infected" stuff? Oh wait, they're not using Meme Linux because you're full of shit.
>>54126729
nope, not even that guy but the only reason they use redhat over any other distro is because there's no professional support available for other distros. a few have tried to make a go of it but really the market isn't big enough to support more than one player
>>54126748
Exactly. And the idea that RedHat makes RHEL deliberately shitty is retarded.
>>54126776
not shitty, just obtuse
Bounce around between everything. Recently used Fedora, now on Arch. It is only temporary. I'm planning on switching to 16.04 Ubuntu LTS in a couple of days. I used Debian from 2004 till 2009ish. Hopped around after that. I get bored and install things. I installed funtoo before Fedora, but didn't like compiling things as much as I thought.
My plan for the future is to purchase a thinkpad and use libreboot with either trisquel or debian (without nonfree repos). The only reason I don't use Debian still is because my wireless card doesn't work, and it's too much of a hassle to carry my desktop PC down the stairs to the router. When I move I will probably just install debian on this one too and use it as a server. (I'll make sure to be in ethernet distance).
/blog
>>54126729
>So why don't super computers and data centers use whatever meme you're using instead of "Red Had infected" stuff?
Because they're *all* red-hat infected. That's the meaning of ‘infected’.
There are no realistic options for getting a redhat-free distro without putting in a shitton of work.
>>54126821
You can use the nonfree debian iso and wireless should work.
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>>54120781
8.1
>>54120781
xubuntu, waiting for 16.04
>>54126853
I'm switching from Xubuntu to Mate in 16.04
>>54126863
All those spanish names for things really bug me. It reminds me of KDE.
I don't care for ricing or customizing at all.
I use Xubuntu because I like the default wallpaper.
Bunsenlabs because I miss #!
>>54120781
Debian stable. I want to be in peace.
Debian for home use and RHEL for some spare webhosting and home servers. I really like Ubuntu but anything -buntu seems to have an awful set of drivers and I won't spend hours trying to rebuild the kernel.
>>54126939
peace from what?
>>54120781
Gentoo
cuz its da bess
Been using it for 5 years and I'm finally just starting to see the seams, usually I reach this point in under 6 months with other distros.
Until qubesos over openvz becomes a thing or at least bedrock's strata installation becomes manageable, gentoo will remain the best distro by far. It has the most packages outside of arch, yet it remains rock stable, extremely secure, very fast, and extremely customizable all at once. Plus, it's systemd-free!
>>54126971
Is it hard to learn to use it? I tried funtoo but ran into a lot of problems with packages behaving strangely. I wonder if maybe gentoo would be different. Did you run into a lot of issues while learning how to use it? I really like the eselect system.
>>54126876
With KDE, it's easy: if it has a K in front, it's KDE. This is extremely useful and pretty important: it tells you which program you can uninstall by which means, and it also tells you which programs can interact with other KDE programs to give you the best experience.
Plus, it's not like gnome doesn't do the same thing.
But with mate, it's pretty annoying because the names do not have a semantic-free pattern. If you aren't a brazillian florist, you have no idea which program comes from mate.
>>54127000
No issue beyond the initial installation, setting up a custom kernel upgrade script (I don't use genkernel, and I added grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg to the script) and learning to use emerge (i.e. -a for ask, -v for verbose, -uDN for update, learning to use etc-update and equery u or equery l -op to get info about packages).
When I started, revdep-rebuild was actually very important, but nowadays you don't even need it; it's become even easier to use over time.
>>54120781
xubuntu (x1) mate (x2 raspberry pi)
>>54120781
Arch.
Easy to use, pacman, AUR
>>54120781
Fedora 23
I just trying it out. I've heard pretty good things about it.
cub linux
works great on my 1 bit ram and i dont like minimalistic netbook
Ubuntu
Cuz convenience. I like my distros functional and good- looking
Debian master race reporting in. Stability >>>>> anything else
>tfw I unironically use gnome
I learned Linux with it, can't go without it. I rarely ever move my hands off the keyboard, what more can you ask for?
>>54127771
fag
Ubuntu on my main laptop, desktop, and tablet. Raspian on my Raspberry Pi 2, Arch Linux on my Pi Zero, and Mint on my secondary laptop with live boot usbs of Kali and Knoppix.
>>54120781
Debian 8
Removed systemd and it's great.
I actually don't mind Gnome 3 with tons of modifications and extensions.
Gentoo. I started using it when i had a really shitty pc and needed something lightweight. Now i just got used to it and I still love it. I don't install it on other people's computers when they ask for help with GNU/Linux since i haven't used another distro that is so much of a timesink as gentoo
>>54126469
>is the Long Term Service release stable compared to a basically glorified beta release?
using arch on two laptops, but when the ubuntu 16.04 comes out I plan on trying it
debian with cinnamon for ages now
thinking about ubuntu for ppa but nah
fuck ubuntu
>Why?
because fuck ubuntu
>>54120781
Bash on Ubuntu on Windows
I use debian stable on servers and testing on some, at home a mix of win7, win10 insider preview, win10 pro and debian stable/testing. On my current laptop I have debian stable with cinnamon, I'm not sure if it's better than gnome shell. It has it's positives, though. But feels a bit hollow.
>>54120781
RHEL on all production stuff I do for a customer because I like to set things and really forget them, Debian for myself because I like the fast paced updates and features.
Xubuntu. It's fast and has the features I want.
I've been messing around with Elementary in a VM though and might move onto that as my main distro. I've noticed no lag problems compared to Xubuntu, and it still has the keyboard-accessible application launcher that I can't live without nowadays.
>>54128872
>Debian for myself because I like the fast paced updates and features.
yeah like 3.16.0-4 on current stable
>>54121012
Dash is the worst fucking thing I have ever used and it's ugly as fuck. But I like everything else about unity including how keyboar d driven it is, I just wish dash wasn't fucking terrible
>>54122018
>Mint has plenty of security issues
when will this meme die
>>54128943
When people forget about them being hacked.
>>54129076
then how it was the most popular in 2015, 2014 ? http://www.tecmint.com/10-top-most-popular-linux-distributions-of-2015/
Arch on two PCs as well as an old netbook and more recently a chromebook.
I've used Arch since about 2011. It can occasionally be a bitch, but if you aren't an idiot, the BB and wiki have everything you need to troubleshoot any problems.
Before that I mucked around with ubuntu and DSL and used windoze before that.
