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What is the /g/ consensus on Discord?
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Faggots too stupid to download a standalone application so they use in-browser ones.
It's an example of the cancer http has.
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>>54115298
Why does that make it cancerous, exactly?
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>>54115280

I think it's neat.
Easy to use and not bloated.
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I tried to avoid it as long as I could but I know too many people using it right now. It's alright, a little social media-ish with the whole feed thing.

I still prefer TS3 when in games though.
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>>54115298
discord has a local client

which happens to basically be a browser that loads the same page, giving you an identical program on every single device and an online fallback

on top of that, it has good features and just works

discord is fucking goat
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>>54115458
>feed thing
what feed thing? my pals and i have been using it for over a year, it works just like teamspeak
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Just use IRC like a real man.
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>>54115575
>le ebin manhood meme
it's 2016 grandpa, we want software to be functional AND feel pleasant, look good and be comfy to use
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>>54115589
All you kids care about today is "look pleasant."
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It's nonfree, just use irc.
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>>54115589
IRC doesn't do this?
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Its for people too stupid to host a mumble server
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>>54115280
Its adware
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>>54115280
botnet
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>>54115620
>>54115623
Show me the line of Js that is adware or botnet.
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>>54115630
show me the line that isnt
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>>54115607
/thread
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>>54115599
nice reading comprehension, grandpa

i wouldnt be using discord if it wasnt also functional as hell
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>>54115642
It's non-free.
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>>54115607
>>54115611
have obviously never actually compared

>why use a fast, safe, comfy car when you also have a crappy bike
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>>54115280
It's not open sores so it must be an NSA botnet, obviously infringing on mah freedumbs.
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>>54115656
>safe
>closed source
>not encrypted
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>>54115652
>>54115607
cry me a river
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>>54115665
>taking adjectives in an analogy and applying them to the original
youre either retarded or just shitposting for the fun of it
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>>54115656
But IRC is functional, feels pleasant and comfy and can be tailored to look how you want it.

Sounds like you're the one who never compared.
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>>54115280
Gamers which are the most gullible idiots on the web will fall for it despite all the shortcomings.
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>>54115696
can you name the shortcomings?
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>>54115298
>not downloading the client

It seems that you are the faggor, anon.
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>>54115690
i use irc regularly, thanks

it would take a shitton of tweaking, mods/addons and other shit to make irc as nice as discord is out of the box
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>>54115715
proof you use irc?
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>>54115715
Why would you want your chat window to look like facebook chat though? I prefer a simpler aesthetic.
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Free and not open source
That means they are probably tracking you and using your information.
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>>54115701
centralized so no local servers
terrible ui which takes half the screen while having huge empty areas
nobody uses it
no end to end encryption
datamining
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>the cancerous "gaymer" quotes on the loading screen as well as littered over their blog posts
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Positive Points
- Great for group audio chat
- Easy to create servers
- Web client
- Integrates well into games, if that's a thing you like to do

Neutral Points
- Basic text chat, many other programs do it the same or better, but this is not the main focus of the program
- Ad funded, some people dislike this however

Negative Points
- Not OSS
- No encryption

Conclusion; Good for group chats around games, which shockingly enough was what it was made for. Bad as a general purpose chat program, which is not what it was made for.
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>>54115422
>not bloated
>literally uses more ram than fucking chrome does
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>>54115746
>a company records my friends and i shitposting to each other
oh noes they control my life now

>>54115765
not having to fuck around with server setup, config, hostnames, net access, uptime, etc
subjective, i like the ui and im usually the biggest autist about uis concerning efficiency, space, etc
same can be said about linux, moot point thats temporal in nature
the web ui runs over https, the local client is a browser locked to the web ui, therefore...
oh noes they can read my silly banter

>>54115798
it runs over https
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>>54115722
There's HexChat.
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>>54115280
Personally I love it. I run a podcast, and many of my guests are either unfamiliar with VoIP, or use shit like Skyle or Google hangouts. It's great to just be able to send them a link, and have competent, usable VoIP, without them having to download and install a program just for an interview. The server customization on the admin side, and chat bots are nice, too. For gaymen, it blows ts3 and mumble the fuck out.

That said, the encryption is a worry. I wouldn't use it for anything critical, but if you're just a regular guy, and not handling sensitive information, like most of /g/, it's the best option, imo. Also, the /g/ Discord is full of breddy cool bros.
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someone posta link to the thread on r4p3 forum boards

discord is absolutely despicable
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>>54115820
Do you honestly only own two games?
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>>54115842
DELETE THIS
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>>54115806
>https
That only means it's encrypted in its way to the server. From there it is plain text. It could be given to a third party and you wouldn't know.
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>>54115857
This.
It's encrypted only from someone trying to "listen" to the traffic from your computer to the server.
It's like someone taking you to hell, and protecting you until you get there, but once you get there, you're left alone.
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>>54115804

Uses 35 MB, while Chrome swallows way more.
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>>54115881

Never mind, uses 80 MB on all 3 instances combined.
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Fast /g/uide to /g/ """consensus""" on software
>i am using x and want your confirmation because cocks
Is x FOSS?
>a)yes
Whatever. Sod off
>b)no
Fuck off with your botnet
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>>54115857
>>54115878
i know that anons

if you need more encryption than that, you should be using something else than a chat program meant to be fast, easy and comfy

>does this bathtub come with life vests?
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do /g/ have a discord chat?
I wanna join ._.
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Didn't the people that run it literally get caught out for farming user data and selling it to the highest bidder? Also it's run by some tech start up who is notorious for abandoning projects once they've been invested in?

There was a big hullabaloo about it on /g/ a few months ago but I don't remember details.
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100% botnet
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It's better than Skype but still botnet.
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- It's VC funded, two of which are Time Warner Cable and Tencent, meaning YOU are the product

- It's Mumble except with a legitimately shitty and limited not-IRC client

- STILL doesn't have in-game overlay for a lot of gaymes

- 8mb filesize limit

>N-no one's interested in me and my friends le shitposting! x--DDD
They are 100% interested in you because advertising companies want you; more specifically, your habits, topics of discussion (your gaymes), and money.

>>54116029
This, actually.
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>>54115607
IRC has no voicechat.
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Been using Discord ever since Microshit rolled out an update with next generation calling that reduces microphone input regardless of Skype/Windows settings.

Basically me and my friends couldn't talk to one and another without constant volume drops, so we switched to Discord.

I go to the Skype community and see everyone bitching about it, yet no one has bothered to fix it.

Fuck you Microsoft.
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>>54115918
b is true 99% of the time, but a is not always right.
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>>54116064
Well Skype is botnet
and infested with ads
and slow as fuck
and bloated
and lacks any customisation whatsoever except for profile pic and personal info
and pretty much lacks any other features except for user-to-user text chat, group chat and audio/video call

It literally makes no sense to use Skype anymore, because it has no advantage whatsoever and many drawbacks.
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>>54116139
I agree. But Discord is still botnet. It's kinda fishy that you can have practically endless private servers that costs nothing and have zero ads.
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>>54116159
>It's kinda fishy that you can have practically endless private servers that costs nothing and have zero ads.

Just like IRC right?
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>>54116172
>Not realizing that it requires your own server
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>>54116159
Yeah, of course it's fishy. I asked them once in the discord dev chat what's their source of revenue. They just joked about it and nobody gave a straight answer.

So, imo, it's fine to use discord for casual chat that doesn't involve anything important. But if you need something secure for some reason, you probably don't want to use either skype or discord.
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>>54115280
Let me put it in simple terms:
It's amazing if you love being on PC or on tablet/phone. It's got an awesome voice chatting server. You can add friends, you can post porn and other things.

BUT the problem is that /g/ doesn't like anything that's not complicated.

>>54115607
>I don't like things that I an't have access to the code even tho I will never touch the code cause I don't know how!

>>54115614
Who cares? In this day n age, you need to be able get on without having host shit at all, and people are retarded.

>>54115623
Explain how it is

>>54115660
this is satire!

>>54115656
>why use this car that has bluetooth, heated seats, extra room and XM radio when you could be riding in a bus with shitty everything and you can't talk to people cause you're afraid!

>>54115842
>>54115847
AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>54115996
yes
I normally post a daw thread and I let people join to talk but it's been dead lately if you want to join

>>54116052
>>54116064
how is it botnet? I am waiting

>>54116089
>doesn't have in game overlay
Yes it does, that's finally been fixed.
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>>54116191
I can make a channel on any of the large IRC networks. For free. With no ads.
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>>54115996
no, there's a ton of IRC channels on rizon though
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GOAT in most respects. I only have two complaints;

1.) Not open source. No security auditing, no confidence in motives of developers, not able to patch/implement features, etc. It's a minor gripe, but it's a gripe nonetheless.

2.) Can't host your own server. This can be fairly useful in certain situations but again, this is a minor gripe.

I won't ever use it for anything sensitive, never give it personal info, phone numbers, etc., but for playing some vidya it's great.
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>>54116203
>BUT the problem is that /g/ doesn't like anything that's not complicated.
BUT the problem is that /g/ doesn't like anything that's not *free software.
FTFY.
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>>54115298
the client isn't available on gahnoo/leenucks
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>>54116206
But then it's not a private server. Read >>54116159
>practically endless private servers
>private

>>54116194
>it's fine to use discord for casual chat that doesn't involve anything important
I agree
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>>54115280
wasting time worrying about a crappy forum-ish thingy
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>>54116230
It is though. But you have to find it yourself.

Literally the dev's words.
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>>54115857
Same for irc, fampai.
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>>54116312
Unless you use your own server.
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>>54115280
Joined a few web dev rooms a while back. Boring as fuck, nothing ever happens on Discord and every conversation is exactly the same:

>User 1: "working on a meme.js app atm XD"
>User 2: "k"

Slack is pretty much the same only with fewer people.
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Xfire all over again, will be bought up then abandoned.
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>>54116382
>meme.js
It's a real thing! http://evanhahn.com/meme-js/
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>>54116416
Well fuck me.
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>>54116343
At which point you might better be using ts3 or mumble since IRC doesn't support audio.
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/g/ I have 1 question

Do you REALLY care? Or do you want something that just werks? Get over yourselves and try new things out

/g/ makes me think like this
/g/ is the guy that build his car that has cardboard windows, and doesn't have blinkers and put their arms out the window to make a turn. They power the power by pedals and extra "free" sourced gas in the tank. Everything is made from scratch and constantly has some problem. With a paint job by duct tape and spray paint.

HOWEVER /g/ is the person that wont touch the car that's nice looking, heated seats, extra truck space, good for the economy on fuel, has onboard navigation, aux plugin, bluetooth, XM radio, and even on star! But that's too much for /g/! they didn't build it from scratch, oh and lets not forget that it's "non free" so they wont touch it cause they aren't allowed too with out getting in trouble!

Logically speaking, if you know how coding works and you're good at hacking, why do you care if something is or not open source?
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>>54116428
>https://github.com/BuddyMeme/Meme.js
At least it's open-source
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Mumble is infinitely superior.
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>>54115280
Mumble shits all over it.
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>>54116451
Closed source is more like a Volkswagen shitting out more CO2 than advertised with the hood welded shut.
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>>54116455
>>54116462
Mumble needs per user volume settings, then I might consider it.
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>>54116451
Day you are a mechanic, would you get a car you can't look under the hood?
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It's good because you don't have to run your own server or rent one. While it's options isn't exactly robust, it's good enough for most standard gaming, which is what it's meant to do.
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>>54116382
>dev rooms
>discord

Not the reason it was made for

>slack
It's for teams working on something, not random devs either.
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>>54116230
It's in the AUR and works
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>>54116455
mumble is still buggy alpha software

once it matures it might be good yeah

TS3 > all
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Someone that works for their shitty company has been shilling this bad thread for a really long time now so I'll never, ever use it.
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>>54117314
this
I would have probably migrated but considering how hard it gets shilled I just won't, even if it's legitimate users -- avoid software that's shilled
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>>54116513
Use the development snapshot. It has per-user volume settings and is wholly superior to Discord (unless you specifically like giving up your privacy and personal information: they pull more info from your computer than just what you push into the client and their privacy policy is non-existent).
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>>54117314
>>54117343
they also downvote anythind negative or even non-positive on reddit

Some guy was having an issue and he got down voted to oblivion, gestapo style even
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>>54117343
why though? doesn't that mean it makes people happy?
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>>54117391
Look through the archives. It's the same thread over and over again. It's spam.
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>>54115280
The best
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proprietary gaymin spyware/adware
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>>54117348
I don't keep any private information in my windows partition
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I love it. Nice alternative to everyone wanting to use the cancer of Skype
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>>54116644
Yes, but the rooms I joined on both discord and slack were specifically for random devs to chat.
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Their servers can't handle more than 10 people smoothly, and they have no server rentals or anything of that variety.

So I went back to hosting my own server, and since I'm hosting my own, I might as well use TS3 considering how lightweight it is and non intrusive.

tl;dr Discord is only good if you have less than 8-10 people on at any time and you are incapable of buying/hosting your own server.

Overall, TS3 is far superior.
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I don't have a use for messaging applications because no one wants to talk to me.
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>>54118277
Pretty much this + the fact Discord behaves very similar to malware.

I don't feel comfortable letting obscure programs access all my shit and probably sell my data when there are non intrusive alternatives.
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Here's why I use discord over everything else
>individual volume sliders for each person
>uses lower resources than skype
>only have about 4-5 people in it at a time
>can leave it on all day while people pop in and out

Yeah i know that last reason also go for ts3 and similar programs but who the fuck uses teamspeak anymore?
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>>54116089
>They are 100% interested in you because advertising companies want you; more specifically, your habits, topics of discussion (your gaymes), and money.

And yet I'm still not interested in them. I have the magical power of being able to ignore shit I have no interest in. Wew lad, I've defeated TWC and Tencent!
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I prefer to use IRC but it's way better than skype and has enough traction and it easy enough to set up and use to get just about anyone to use it. If I need voice chat I use it.
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>playing games and talking to friends about stupid shit, posting pictures and links to funny videos
Go with Discord
>talking about govt takedowns, terrorism, CP or other
Do it in person.

Stop being stupid, literally everything that passes over the internet can be access by someone with enough knowledge.

Only sure fire way to keep secrets is a plastic box, dug 10ft deep.
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>>54116513
actually the latest unstable builds have per user volume adjustment. It works really nice. I'm not sure if it's in the stable build yet but it will be soon.
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>>54116987
isn't it just the webpage though?
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>uses user data for advertising
No thanks
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I use it because I like having a VoIP and a chatbox/image poster in the same program instead of constantly having to tab between the two.
I do wish that there was a Free as in Freedumbs alternative that combines Mumble with a chat interface that isn't about 20 years outdated though.
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>>54118547

>individual volume sliders for each person
TS3

>uses lower resources than Skype
And TS3 uses less than Discord

>only have about 4-5 people in it at a time
But if you ever have more, you're gonna need TS3

>can leave it on all day while people pop in and out
TS3

>who the fuck uses teamspeak anymore
Far more people than those who use Discord
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it has the funniest/most shockingly badly integrated logout function. very well concealed.. pretty impressively bad
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My only friend made me use it. It's awful, the UI is bloated as fuck and unadjustable. Sometimes messages aren't sent.
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I installed discord-canary0.0.2 on debian and it just checks for updates. halp.
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>>54115280
>no option to turn of shit emojis
>no way to modify the obvious iframe on the executable
>all data stored serverside
>requires connection to change settings

Isn't it a botnet?
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>>54115574
What? Every server has a feed in the middle where you can shit post.. I'm looking on it right now in the client. rooms on left side, list of users on right.
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>>54115280
SLACK
L
A
C
K
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>>54115298
>bloating your computer with needless programs when you can just have a tab open

Could you be any more of an idiot?

Don't try to pretend also that you don't have your browser open 24/7
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>>54121974
You... Mean a chatroom? Like for communicating through text? TS3 has the same thing wewlad
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UI is a disorganized mess. I'm not at my pc right now but I think there are three different "settings" areas that are found in different sections of the interface and even use different graphical elements.

It "looks pretty" but it's poorly designed. The service also seems kind of unstable, my friends and I have had more instances of random disconnections with Discord in a couple months than we had in almost a decade of Ventrilo use.
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>>54124297
Werks on my machine®
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>>54115280
I can't seem to leave fucking channels? So I join a team and then 5 months later when I get on discord again I'm still on that fucking channel. Also whoever joins can read the entire chat history for some fucking reason.
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It's not foss. That's enough reason to throw it in the trash.

Also, it's not like I have any friends which I would need to use this to talk to, so using e-mails to communicate with my friends work just fine.
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Use mumble or irc. I like mumble and mumble has literally no maintenance so I use that.
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>>54125631
You can leave servers just by clicking on the name, and pressing "Leave server"
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>>54125977
"Server"
They're called guilds mate
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discord:
lightweight, seamless, multiplatform, btfo of TS, skype and vent
stick in on 2nd screen or use the overlay
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IRC:
lightweight, seamless, multiplatform, btfo of TS, skype and vent
stick in on 2nd screen or use the overlay
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Enjoy being sold you inbred fucks.
https://r4p3.net/threads/what-is-discord.861/
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>>54126366
>playing Minecraft.
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I'd much rather use mumble because its simple to setup and is secure

plus its open source.
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works well enough, font rendering is pretty shitty on windows, feels a bit clunky at times, botnet
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Telepathy master race reporting in. Fuck Discord.
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>>54128812
>font rendering is pretty shitty on windows
that's window's problem tho
mactype helps quite a bit with that
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>>54126366
>You forgot to blur your name in the fucking center of the image, Wumpus
>Minecraft
>Windows 10
>VLC
>Chrome
Literally why
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more proprietary botnet stuff, i use mumble
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Discord is nice, bare bones and less shitty than teamspeak. I enjoyed ventrilo in the old days and never used mumble. Basically the ease of use and free voice servers make it great if your not autistic.
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>>54115280
>start up discord
>it starts to update
>says acquiring dank memes
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error 502 all the time
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I-I like Curse Voice...
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i don't like discord
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On the text side, it's a riced IRC.
They also implemented friend lists this month, which is good.

On the audio side it's very shitty because it doesn't even have command/whisper channel features. It doesn't have audio subchannels. They should take a look at mumble/teamspeak/fuckingventrilo and copy that part asap if they want to be taken seriously.

It also has a major problem being a centralized service when/if the server crashes of falls.

In other words, use another software for voice chat and the text chat with a big community becomes cancer.
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>>54115280
I like it.
it works fine for my pleb friends, without having to go through complicated registration process or install any app.
And since I don't use my phone number I'm happy.
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Because it's written by a profit company.
They will just place ads, or fuck it up somehow in no time, because of course they will have to make money somehow.
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It's about the same as Skype, bloated, proprietary, overall kinda shitty, but still usable, but I'd still rather use it over Skype because MS.
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Had to use it in a PC room at a convention
>holy mother of clusterfuck
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>>54131489
>bloated
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>>54131790
well to me (not that anon), Mumble is not bloated.
it's fast, snappy, does what it needs to do.

Teamspeak is a bit bloated, but it's still quite fast.

meanwhile this piece of fuckery needs a powerhorse.
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>>54131790
Uses about as many resources as Skype for me.
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>BUT the problem is that /g/ doesn't like anything that's not *free software.
>FTFY.
That's not a problem
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>>54126366
This is who I share a board with
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>>54131848
It's who you share discord with.
I'm first ip.
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>>54116416

Hahah!
Lost for words..
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No Linux client / 10
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>>54115614
or people with asshole ISPs who charge extra for the ability to open ports
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>>54115620
It's not adware.

I sent them an email asking about how they got the funds to keep the servers running last year. Pic related
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>install "app"
>it doesnt even ask for a location just does it

-10/10
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>>54132054
Wasn't it a web thingy?
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>>54132201
is this true? where is it installed?
I don't want to try
because frankly I don't need it
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>>54132201
This is the only remark I have not.

Otherwise I've been using it daily and got all my friends to use it.

It was great to see people transfer from all that dumb software to Discord. People just pop in to my server, talk, share, communities sometimes collide in rooms but often keep their conversations in their own.

It's absolutely goat, feels like everyone is living in the same neighbourhood and we keep hanging out.
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>>54132138
Oh lord, all of their responses are cringy, like they made their own company 5 minutes ago.

> we are not going to make any money at all!
> look guys, we were able to survive a few months

Bunch of useless fucks.
If they came up with a usable business plan, they could stay afloat without really doing anything evil.

But they fucked up.
Now they have two options.
Either monetize every data, everyone and literally everything - and then they MIGHT stay afloat, OR close the shop sooner or later.
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>>54134109
> inb4 they are small
If you check they have a hardware team, servers, an entire infrastructure, community management, developers, etc.

They function like a big ass company on a roll, but they have nothing to back that shit up financially.
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>>54115280
Chink NSA botnet for retards too stupid to run murmur.
>>54116203
How much do they pay you?

How retarded can normalfags be? Why the fuck would anyone use anything else than mumble given that it offers encryption by default and uses fucking opus.
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>>54134231
Just look at any Discord related post online, and see how the people employed by Discord appear suddenly. Either the devs, the community managers, or just like this noname anon... they are everywhere.
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>>54116230
Yes it is. Convert the deb, and it works fine.
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It's shit, but I use it for work.
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>>54115979
>no, but you can easily use a life vest in it

really good analogy nigger
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>>54115765
>terrible ui
I don't think it's bad at all. Do set the window to fullscreen or some shit?
>nobody uses it
That's not true at all. It's getting pretty popular somehow.

The other points are valid
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best thing is that there is code highlighting
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REMINDER THAT MUMBLE 1.3 WILL HAVE A PURE COMMAND LINE INTERFACE
ALL OTHERS BTFO

sadly Mumble has a lot of problems like the shitty layout and there's an audio bug with Opus

>>54116513
use 1.3 snapshot
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>>54134773
>>54116513
>>54116462
>>54116455
>Mumble
god you have to be memeing me
seriously
mumble is probably the worst of all choices

higher latency, shit codecs, full of bugs

why does it even exist?
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>>54135007
because it's not botnet
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>>54135036
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>>54135087
if you want a serious answer,
it actually has the lowest latency and please explain why CELT or Opus are shit codecs (same as TS3 uses anyway)
you're right that it's buggy
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>>54115280
Discord is fucking great, at least at this point in time. The interface is A+ tier and the way servers work is great and simple. Never going back to Mumble nor its terrible interface nor its stupid certificates mess.
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>>54135331
certificates mess? what?
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>>54131790
Its bloated as hell at least the desktop app.
Trust me fagtron, is just a nodejs app frontend for the web.
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>>54115280
Shilled too hard and blatantly. Looks like they profit from data mining or are looking to build a large user base to sell it to someone.
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>>54129775
what's good about it? serious question, someone keeps telling me curse > discord but doesn't say why
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>>54115280
As someone with a bad internet connection I really dislike that Discord has a permanent high upload usage unlike teamspeak, which only uses connection speed when someone is talking.

Other than that, its cool if you have casual friends that refuse to use teamspeak since its not nearly as bad as having skype installed
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>>54119178
discord-canary is in AUR, but they released 0.0.3 today so checksum needs to be updated in PKGBUILD. Hotkey works globally with the canary version of the software.
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