How do they even keep themselves afloat?
Nobody buys their products except /g/ hipsters, and their stock is worthless. That's pretty much the signs of a failed company.
Intel antitrust bux
I am their only customer, I buy a lot
>>54086520
Intel and NVidia benefit from them being barely alive, since strictly speaking there's no case of monopoly here. Now they don't have to split up into smaller companies.
Good. Supporting AMD is antisemitic.
No idea. All I know is they'd better hurry the fuck up with Zen because they're about to lose me to Intel x99. I need moar coars.
Lol ok, have fun with 3.5gb VRAM and a company that's shit at DX12 and Async compute as well as gimps their old GPUs and pushes Gameworks which uses more resources than it should to make their higher-end cards look better.
>>54086520
their stock's been going up since the year started. If you actually kept up with news you'd know they'd actually be a good investment with Polaris and Zen dropping this year
I see plenty of people with their GPUs, I like mine. Must be the only sales they get these days
>>54086785
780ti owner here.
I am filled with regret.
>>54086785
>Muh gimping
This expression indicates an AMDtard's confusion and lack of understanding. When confronted with a Nvidia card of superior performance, AMDtards mumble "muh gimping" or "Nvidia gimps cardz". This will usually be followed by benchmarks for shitty obscure games where AMD cards have a 1-5 fps advantage.
>>54086853
Should've got a 7970, I agree.
>>54086909
>>Muh memes
>This expression indicates an Nvidiot's confusion and lack of understanding. When confronted with an AMD card of superior performance, Nvidiots mumble "muh performance/watt" or "Async compute/DX12 is a meme". This will usually be followed by benchmarks for shitty obscure games where Nvidia cards have a 1-5 fps advantage.
>>54086853
You should probably regret the fact that you will likely die a virgin more.
>>54086853
stupid anime poster
This puzzles me also.
Nobody uses AMD in servers/workstations (low performance, high power usage)
Hardly anybody uses AMD cpus in mainstream computing (shit IPC), Intel owns about 80%+ of the market.
Hardly anybody uses AMD gpus, Nvidia owns about 80% of the market.
Just how do they do it? Do they have patents? What for? AMD tech is literally obsolete and bested by either Intel or Nvidia. Did they outsource all their shit to India or something?
>>54086545
I almost read that as autist bux
but considering AMD's state as a company that makes sense
>>54087054
Do you even know why this board's letter is /g/ ?
>>54086520
Console deals (they're in all of them)
Server deals
Small amount of HPC
Embedded systems
SEA/Asia/Africa (cheap PCs are way more popular in shitty countries)
They actually have a fair amount of revenue coming in, it's just being all spent to keep them in the game.
>>54087107
>Do they have patents?
The 64-bit extension.
>>54087141
Because /t/ was already taken?
>>54087107
Yes. It's technolo/g/y now
Reminder that Zen/Polaris hype is dying as is AMD.
>>54086520
I want to put together a Sempron APU build just to throw them a bone. I know it's pointless, but you do what you can.
>>54086520
They don't have any factories, right?
It shouldn't be too expensive to keep one office open.
>>54087107
>Do they have patents? What for?
This only goes back to 2009, but they have probably as many patents as Intel and Nvidia combined (maybe more, Radeon was founded before Nvidia was a glimmer in anyone's eye) and are used daily by both Nvidia and Intel.
http://stks.freshpatents.com/Advanced-Micro-Devices-Inc-nm1.php
>>54087196
Zen is too late and polaris is some midrange crap that cannot compete with pascal.
; /
>>54087189
lurk more newfaggot
>>54087141
>Le because 4chan has anime boards it is an anime website meme
Consider suicide, wap.
>>54087221
I've lurked for years, nobody ever mentions it.
...but I assume it's from some retarded Japanese shit?
>>54087215
Polaris is the mid to low end replacement.
Vega is the high end chip.
>>54087270
yeah and that is coming in 2017 or so
>>54087252
Yeah, some weeb shit
>>54087215
>Zen is too late and polaris is some midrange crap that cannot compete with pascal.
The power draw is in the midrange, the performance is in the top range and the dies are being kept small for right now by both companies on the consumer side.
Of course, if you wanted to spend 30K on a chip you could get big Pascal, though you wouldn't be able to use it.
On another note, I'm worried for Nvidia since they don't seem to have a handle on Async, they're moving back to a design more like Fermi which means they're burning up a lot of transistors to readd the FP64 hardware, and they were already neck and neck with AMD without having to sacrifice die space for that. If they didn't have some huge design wins in reworking their cores they're going to watch AMD eat their lunch and not be able to do much without throwing away a lot of money in the process.
>>54086520
>X1 APUs
>PS4 APUs
>Wii U GPUs (laughs externally)
>PS4K APUs
>Nintendo NX APUs
>>54086970
>AMD card of superior performance
BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAABAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA *pause* BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAABAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
>>54087252
Japanese word for technology starts with /g/. Also happens with other boards such as /b/, /k/ and a few others
>>54087241
>>54087290
Fucking underage redditors, a little history lesson. 4chan was created by an -anime- fan so that other -anime- fans could discuss -anime-. It eventually expanded to other topics so that -anime- fans could discuss other shit.
I personally don't like anime but if you want to stay here then you got to respect it's culture.
>>54087107
>believing that noVidya cards actually are worth spending your jew bucks on.
>>54087334
>mfw AMD is to blame for the current crop of consoles running like shit at 1080
>>54087346
Please leave and never come back.
>>54087373
What if I'm Muslim?
AMD's primary funder are rich wahabists in saudi arabia. The same guys who fund terrorist attacks around the world and have been paying out billions to build and keep ISIS afloat. AMD is just a drop in the bucket compared, and they can use it to launder money (which is why AMD shits out tons of bad products that they know nobody buys).
>>54087373
What's difference does it make why it was started? Cultures change all the time. There is obviously a paradigm shift in culture happening on there where animufags are being disliked more and more.
>>54086520
Third world countries.
>>54087215
> polaris is some midrange crap that cannot compete with pascal.
Is that why AMD was beating Nvidia in all tiers this generation except the lowest and highest end? Everywhere in between, AMD had better performance for better price. And Polaris is supposed to make it much better in terms of efficiency, if you want to go there.
Nvidia beats AMD because of marketing, nothing more. Even in terms of research and technology, AMD is miles ahead of Nvidia, and they push the medium forward. HBM is just the latest example of this.
>>54087394
>DELETE THIS
DX12 SUCKS, WE ARE WAITING TIL DX12 SUCKS LESS UNTIL WE BAKE IT INTO OUR SILICON
AMD ARE DUMB, PLS IGNORE BENCHMARKS SHOWING DX12 THEY ARE LI
>>54086520
>has the best card on the market
>sells millions of consoles
>>54087387
Nvidia pissed off sony with the ps3 so the chances of sony ever giving them businesses again are slim to none (which explains why Nvidia got so salty when AMD got the cotnract).
AMD has a fairly decent history with nintendo. IBM have ragequit all their fabs and intel can't provide a powerful enough gpu for sony or MS's needs. This basically leaves AMD the only name in town unless you go full custom which neither sony or MS were prepared to do given the horrific shitshow that resulted from the ps3/360.
What /g/ fails to realise that unless something major happens from Nvidia or Intel AMD has the console market sewn up for the next decade as they are the only one that can provide an all-in-one computing solution. Remember: latest rumours peg the nintendo NX as using AMD parts (possibly even 14/16nm hardware).
>>54087491
>Is that why AMD was beating Nvidia in all tiers this generation except the lowest and highest end?
are you retarded? AMD isn't anywhere near beating nvidia, they can't even release cards at the same price point that perform near the level of nvidia's cards.
>Nvidia beats AMD because of marketing, nothing more.
marketing won't help you at all if you don't have better performance, nvidia and amd were pretty much equal from ~2007-2011 and nvidia only had a 5-10% market share advantage then. they only sold a lot more once AMD started doing really stupid shit like not fixing their dx11 implementation and rebranding.
i hope AMD recovers, but it might already be too late. they've bled an insane amount of market share (they lost ~50% of their gaming market share and lost all of their pro 3d and supercomputing share as well).
>>54087577
>THIS ONE BENCHMARK OF A SINGLE GAME IN SPECIFIC SETTINGS PROVES THAT AMD ISN'T ANYWHERE NEAR TO BEAT NVIDIA LOL
I'm not even gonna bother.
>>54087577
>meanwhile, in DX12....
NVIDIA users are more likely to be Trump supporters
>>54087577
>muh cherrypicked benchmarks
Kill yourself, kid.
>>54087593
yup this the reality of where we're at now
the 390X>980
which is funny
>>54087387
AMD still gets paid real money for them.
Video game companies keep going back to AMD.
>>54087614
>much horribly coded unoptimized windows store games
try a real benchmark einstein
>>54087614
>>54087593
so that's where all of AMD's ISIS money is going, hiring paid shills rather than improving their architecture and putting out new products (rather than 3 year old rebrands).
>>54087387
>implying they don't make their own specifications and tell AMD to make the thing, like they control how good or bad it is design wise
fuck what's it like being so dumb basic things in the world are a foreign language to you.
>>54087577
>a ~$400 card within the margin of error of fps of a ~$500 card
>said card has 4GB more memory
Post the 4k benchmark. Anyway you're retarded please die.
>>54087649
yeah Tom's is known for being highly AMD biased....lol
and for rebrands:
>it's okay when nvidia does it
>>54087649
>so that's where all of AMD's ISIS money is going, hiring paid shills rather than improving their architecture and putting out new products (rather than 3 year old rebrands).
they already showed off their new architecture though...
>>54087679
>10 fps less for 2x the price of the 3.5 meme card
>i-i-it's in the margin of error, goy!!!!
go back to india, raja
>>54087196
pascal will be the grave for nvidia and you will never see a consumer card with hbm2 from nvidia.
btw polaris 11 will have <50 w tdp and polaris 10 around 100 w and will be faster and with less surface area than the current 3xx line.
amd has better architecture with better support for modern tech plus 14nm process vs the 16nm that nvidiots have.
i don't consider myself a /g/ hipster and im getting AMD next upgrade. whatever they replace the r9 390 with, i'll get that.
>>54087679
>DELET THIS
>>54087593
>a ~$400 card beating a $600 nvidia card
Priceless. Why do Nvidiots like getting anally rammed by jewcock?
>>54087698
>>it's okay when nvidia does it
where did i say it was OK for nvidia to do it? i've never bought a rebrand and never will.
>nvidia did something shitty before so it's ok for us to do it too
>>54087730
Don't ask me.
>>54087730
the best part is seeing the drivers give better performance for the next several years on amd while nvidia gets slowly gimped into obsolescence
>>54087189
/g/uro
>>54086520
Well... Lets see...
They have about 1/4 of the graphics card market, which I'm baffled why it's that low, since you can actually hold onto an AMD GPU for like 3+ generations, and continue to have solid peformance, unlike Nvidias offerings.
It has 100% market share of GPUs in the current gen Wii, X Box, and PS, and 66% of the CPU market, in the PS, and X Box.
Luckly, Intel makes great non gimped CPUs, that you can hold onto forever, but AMD is the savior on thr GPU side, because Nvidia is trash.
>>54087714
2.3fps difference retard. Literally kill yourself you humongous faggot.
>>54087716
AMD is just shit at optimizing their drivers. It has a history of painfully slow, too slow for their own good.
>>54087775
>2.3fps difference retard. Literally kill yourself you humongous faggot.
get your eyes checked
>>54087784
>damage control
Ok kid.
Can I talk about Linux? I'm gonna talk about Linux...
So AMDGPU's out, but all the cards that really utilise it are 250+ euro. I'm committed to sticking with free drivers for now, since I get native D3D in Wine, and other enhancments not available on Nvidia. Even on my shitty 6770 the performance is solid and consistent, but I wanna be on the newest driver stream, get a performance boost, and not break the bank.
I guess at this stage I'll wait til they release their new line of cards, and then pick up an r290 or something.
>all these AMD shills
top kek, AMD struggles to reach performance parity with REFERENCE nvidia card's
>>54087784
>390X 62.3
>980 64.5
Try again.
>>54087838
>he thinks the 980 competes with the 390x
the 980 competes with the fury non-x, the 970 competes with the 390x
>>54086520
A company on the NYSE with a stock price of $2.00 is not close to a failing company.
Your post shows you know shit about business
>>54087384
>>54087387
>Anime shitposters shitposting as usual
>>54087827
>Not DirectX 12
>>54087901
You don't need DX12 to see Nvidia losing.
>>54087825
Don't get a 290. They're notorious for being defective, i.e. don't get it unless you're sure the supplier/store has a solid warranty.
>>54087827
>1080
>dx11
>game shit on by nvidia patches
At least you tried.
>>54087862
Really depends on the game. The 390x competes and even beats the 980 (and 980ti) in various games especially if they make use of async compute which is the future of gaming in particular (e.g. >>54087593). The fact that it has twice the vram also means they'd last longer for higher resolutions.
.
>>54086546
Oh my god are you me?
Honestly though I'd rather spend less money for a current gen card/cpu. And everyone talking about no support has no idea what they're talking about i am yet to this day to find a game i couldn't play on any of the 3 cards I've used of theirs from 2005 to today.
>>54087901
>muh dx12
nvidia demolishes you there too son
>>54088202
1/10
>>54087480
>animufags are being disliked more and more.
4chan just got popular and attracted other type of users. And these entitled cunts want 4chan, where they are guests, to change it's traditions.
Anime will always be part of 4chan whether we like anime or not.
>>54086520
Support AMD so that Nvidia has competition
>>54087614
>290x is 4 fps behind 980ti
>Fury X typically gets 5 fps over Fury (air)
>Fury (air) beats 290x by 5fps easily
Where is the Fury X on this bench, then? Oh, right. Cherry picking.
>>54086520
Their cpus are complete garbage nowadays. AMD is still stuck on fucking DDR3, while intel has been using DDR4 for years now. AMD Zen will be a much needed game changer for AMD, if Zen doesn't turn out to be as amazing as all the hype makes it out to be, AMD is officially dead in the CPU market. Their GPUs however are another story, they're really good.
>>54088377
Gamegpu don't have fury samples right now as they had to give them back.
>>54088474
Well they're a shitty review company then, aren't they? If they can afford to employ people, surely they can afford to buy one reference graphics card of each model? I know it adds up overall, I do, but when you're ordering that kind of volume, normally you can get a place to do you a bargain deal.
>>54088507
You do realise the vast majority of review sites don't actually own the hardware they test on? Most of the hardware is on loan from AMD/Nvidia/Intel/whoever and sites often have to give the samples back.
Its why you don't see kepler cards is many current review charts - all the samples went back to Nvidia and the cards are EOL.
>>54088202
>Linux Benchmark
>>54087334
PS4 is shit and runs hot as hell so no wonder AMD is behind it
>>54086970
You're saying that like DX12 isn't a meme in and of itself.
Now Vulkan on the other hand...
>>54087673
>implying the specs aren't limited by AMD's gimped-as-shit APUs
>>54087605
So Nvidia is the red pill?
>>54088574
Consoles in general are fucking shit, run hot as fuck and se shitty hardware, even way back in the 80's before they used AMD.
>>54088650
Intel really struggles to touch AMD for integrated graphics. You should see just how huge the iris pro parts are on the die and even with that enormous slab of L4 it struggles to outperform what AMD offers.
Certainly on the scale of console deployment and the price point MS/sony targeted Intel simply cannot offer them what they want.
>>54087884
>AMDfags are also Ledditards who dont understand this is an anime board
it all makes sense
>performance per watt
>>54088740
Notice how nobody cared about it when fermi was a thing. Infact nobody cared about it until Nvidia said it mattered.
>AMD is like anudda shoah! Oy!
>>54088740
Literally this. Everyone and their fucking family is raving about "le performance per watt" on 4chan, this fucking meme shit needs to fuck off and die. Who gives a shit about performance per watt, the only things important are price/performance, how much power it takes and is it capable of actually running games at good fps.
>>54088766
>nobody cared about it when fermi was a thing
Maybe not, but they definitely cared that it turned their case into a small furnace.
>>54086520
Ps4 and Xbox one
ARM desktop replacement machines when?
>>54086520
>retards don't realise that none of the major chip manufacturers make their profits from high end
>>54088740
The only people who care about energy efficiency are companies running data centers, and they sure as shit aren't using amd
>>54086520
Fan boys, and the consoles
also by extension semi-custom stuff
>>54087577
>HBAO
>>54086520
I like their products, I can get 20-30% more performance then from Intel/Nvidia, they're great to overclock and reliable. Same with their GPUs.
They're rarely used in servers/workstation because of "high" power usage and/or because their highest performing CPUs can't compete with the highest performing Intel CPUs. But again, in the same price range, you get more performance with AMD. Another reason why there is so much Intel in pre-built desktop computers is because of their unethical marketing and backroom dealing. In respect to servers/workstations their position is justified though.
AMD is not going anywhere soon, and will most likely make a turnaround in the future with Intel/Nvidia falling behind.
>>54088936
HBAO is AMD tech, all DICE games since BF3 has been AMD sponsored.
>>54087577
Well at least AMD still wins at 4k
>>54086785
>being this assblasted over a video card company
>>54089034
>>medium quality
>>54087716
>the 16nm that nvidiots have.
except the 16nm process by TSMC is superior to Samsung's 14nm. stay buttblasted
>>54087862
the oc 980 beats a fucking fury x. watch the incoming amdrone damage control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxTcvZ4T2k
Bunch of cheap chinese bluetooth speakers that I never use because they default to max volume and scream "BLEU TOOTH MODE IS REEDY TO PAIR" when you turn them on.
Digital volume controls (puke) don't activate until after it's done screaming, and you have to scroll past " EFF EMM RADIO MODE" and "PLAY BY ESS DEE CARD" before you get to "PLAY BY AUX INPUT", so you can't sidetrack it by plugging in a 3.5mm cord before power on.
>>54087935
>nvidia losing
>dx11
>rise of the tomb raider
You tried but failed
1/2
>>54087935
2/2
Amdrones btfo
>>54086520
I'm pretty sure AMD has made a good profit from making PS4 and Xbone chips and rumor has it that Nintendo's new console will use AMD as well.
>>54089154
and a 390 is on par with a Titan X under DX12 in hitman, if that 980ti didn't have a heavy OC it wouldn't stand a chance
>>54089242
That was steady income, not really any profit, it would have been major profit had AMD had access to 16/14nm processes at the time
>>54088768
AMD is literally owned and funded by rich, terrorist-funding sandniggers
>>54089276
>hitman
>amd sponsored game with devs forced to implement tech that favours amd
and amdrones say gameworks is bad. talk about double standards.
>>54089303
>>54087467
>>54087649
stop this
>>54089324
DX12 doesn't hinder performance though, while gameworks causes performance loss no matter your hardware
>>54089345
>don't say things i don't like
fuck you ISIS supporter
>>54089346
>DX12 doesn't hinder performance though
async is such a bandwidth heavy process it can literally prevent any AO or AA being used at all. it's also hard as fuck to implement and the hitman devs only did it becasue amd forced them to because of the sponsorship. i guarantee you none of the upcoming Q4 games will have async unless they're sponsored by amd, which they probably won't since nvidia always grabs up the biggest AAA Q4 titles.
>>54089432
Wasn't quantum break DX12 only? Anything from/sponsored by microsoft is going to be DX12, and any game dev that wants their game to be set for the future and have lots of additional performance on AMD cards will be using it.
It's not hard to implement, you just can't do a wrapper layer like the new Tomb Raider did, it's why there's no real performance difference from 11 to 12 in that game
>>54089119
source/proof?
>>54089496
>Wasn't quantum break DX12 only?
and look at how much of a flop it was on all hardware. like i said, it's not easy to implement, and i'm not just talking about async. dx12 in general can be very difficult for devs to manage as it doesn't do everything for you like dx11 does. it gives the devs a lot of freedom as it's a very low level api, but if they can't code without a helping hand like dx11 gives you then dx12 will fuck you over.
>Anything from/sponsored by microsoft is going to be DX12
yes and it'll be stuck behind the fucking shitty UWP which will force me to play games like a console, with locked 60fps v-sync and no SLI/CF. fuck that, i'd rather play with gameworks than with shitty limitations like that.
>>54089567
http://bgr.com/2015/10/08/iphone-6s-a9-processor-samsung-tsmc-batterygate/
samsung's 14nm process isn't even fully 14nm.
>>54089647
nobody's Xnm process has been an actual Xnm process in years now.
>>54089685
true, but samsungs 14nm process is worse than tsmc's 16nm process anyway.
>>54089647
>>54089719
>mobile chips
GPUs are fabbed a little bit differently there bud.
It could be that TSMC's 16nm node is great for ULP chips but starts leaking badly at higher power draws (30W+).
We know literally nothing about how these nodes will handle high performance chips until they're released.
>>54086520
in the modern world everyone runs on debt.
>>54088691
That's because Intel doesn't waste their R&D on integrated graphics because dedicated GPUs exist. Intel HD graphics is enough to run a desktop environment, don't complain when your brand new Intel laptop wont play minecraft at 60fps.
>>54089685
Intel 14nm is real 14nm.
This is why Zen is going to fail hard, Intel is ahead of the game by two years already and this is just on the manufacturing.
Cheap CPUs and the best price:performance GPUs.
They have the poorfag audience.
>>54087334
Dude, AMD makes cents out of those chipsets(relatively speaking) they are practically given them away for free, most of the money goes to the fab which AMD no longer owns.
>>54087605
Its the other way around, neets and pretty much anyone elegible for autismbux buys nvidia
>>54090208
>true die size is why X will fail
Not so. AMD's Zen was designed by a talent-starved team on a money-starved budget with a worker-starved staff in a hope-starved company. Zen's undoing won't be the process it was built on, but the fact that they're trying to climb a steep cliff-face despite not having expertise in, the equipment for, and the stamina for rock-climbing
>>54087605
I wish someone could just leak the names and personal info of all Trump supporters so we the people can finally rid ourselves of the very people holding us back.
The government should give out hunting licenses for Trumplet season. We need to cull their population.
>>54088740
>33ºC right now inside my room
>No windows
>No AC
let me tell ya I do give a crap about performance per watt.
>>54090343
>What is efficiency
They could make the best architecture in the world but if they don't have lay down the fab to science and worked out all the irks it will be shit.
>>54086552
Fucking this
>>54086520
Why are you complaining? No one really gives a shit if you don't like AMD.
I have an FX 8320. It was cheap and at the time of building my first build I didn't have a large budget. I'm going to swap it out though this summer with either a new i5 or a used older i7.
>>54086785
>gimps their old GPUs
Well, AMD rebrands its old GPUs(overclocked) and sells them as new...
It's funny seeing all this wild shitposting in the lead up to new GPUs/CPUs.
Once Pascal/Polaris/Zen are out we'll have some actual shit to discuss.
>>54087107
>Nobody uses AMD in servers/workstations
Opterons are good.
>Hardly anybody uses AMD cpus in mainstream computing (shit IPC), Intel owns about 80%+ of the market.
Next-Gen Consoles have AMD CPUs and AMD GPUs
>Hardly anybody uses AMD gpus, Nvidia owns about 80% of the market.
Kinda wish I bought an AMD GPU because Nvidia gimps their non-professional cards when used in a VM.
>Just how do they do it? Do they have patents? What for?
Damn, take a guess.
>AMD tech is literally obsolete and bested by either Intel or Nvidia. Did they outsource all their shit to India or something?
I wonder if Intel makes discrete GPUs, I also wonder when Nvidia will have an x86 license to build it's own x86 CPUs.
>>54090363
You would be the first one to die, SJW.
Built an AMD PC on for super cheap after my decent i5 build went to shit, I expected maybe 10 degrees difference and a bit more noise but this CPU is disgusting in terms of thermals and noise. My stock Intel cooler barely made any noise or went above 75°
>>54090675
>Opterons are good.
not for the market they're aimed torwards. an 8 module opteron pulls 400w when it's loaded, an 18 core haswell-ep cpu pulls less than half that.
>>54090675
Intel literally invented x86
>>54090675
Also AMD and Intel are to ink some deal regarding integrated GPUs for intel chips soon. AMD has no choice since it's desperate for cash. Even if temporary, that just means future gen intels will rape AMD cpus even more. AMD is finished.
AMD Polaris and Vega must beat Nvidia this time, otherwise it really gets critical.
>>54091209
??? Amd has the lower end side of the market by the balls, nvidia don't have shit on amd. If amd focuses on the one thing it does best from all of its competitors, which is provide amazing price/performance hardware, they'd dominate their part of the market. Nvidia releases good cards and all, but not everyone is prepared to pay $600+ for a gpu.
>>54090363
>I want the government to know everything about me and kill anyone with a different political view
Typical view for a Berniefag
Was the fall of the Soviet Union not enough?
>>54087107
>amd tech is obsolete
It was never obsolete, the fx series was built for the future. Proud fx 8320 owner who won't be upgrading for another 3 years here.
>>54087387
I don't get it, isn't the ps4 using a HD7850 and 2 quad core laptop processors sharing 8GB gddr5 across them all?
That seems plenty powerful for 1080p in my opinion, not at desktop ultra settings, but for medium 1080p, I honestly fail to see how it can't handle that.
>>54090343
>AMD's Zen was designed by a talent-starved team on a money-starved budget with a worker-starved staff in a hope-starved company. Zen's undoing won't be the process it was built on, but the fact that they're trying to climb a steep cliff-face despite not having expertise in, the equipment for, and the stamina for rock-climbing
good joke friend. none of these things are true.
in fact the opposite is true in all respects, AMD hired on one of the best CPU architects on the planet, talked deeply with GloFo and Samsung, and basically abandoned every other CPU project they had to focus on Zen.
>>54087048
I had sex before however my age makes my taste illegal.I no longer pursue 3dpd. Oddly after years of conditioning i can no longer get off to 3dpd.
>>54086909
780ti user here
The meme is real. Kepler is being gimped.
>>54091865
Kek
>>54091904
DELETE THIS
>>54091988
Check this
>>54092025
Is there any good reason to buy a AMD cpu over Intel, other than being cheap?
>>54091847
My thoughts exactly
>>54091847
it's not a 7850, it's an underclocked 7770. essentially an m370x laptop gpu.
>>54092342
Even that would be enough for 1080p low settings with medium textures and 2x tessellation at 1080p, but you're wrong, it is a 7850.
Consoles use low level APIs, so they get better performance than desktops. Look at dx11 vs dx12 performance for AMD CPUs and GPUs.
Care to cite your sources on that gpu though?
They only need to shovel shit towards the journalists that keep them on life support. Free cards and gimmicky initiatives that sound original but are respun existing features to generate hype in "the next" big thing in gaming that never materializes. A forever hyperopic viewpoint that never delivers and panders to the new, the naive, and the poor fuckers that keep buying it because its all they know.
>>54092312
>why should I buy product A instead of product B apart from the fact that product A does everything product B does and costs half as much
Sli 970s here i fell for the meme twice with no ragrets
>>54092562
>apart from the fact that product A does everything product B does
Does it?
>>54092608
The FX CPUs offer about the same real-world performance as an Intel CPU costing twice as much. The one thing they lack is an integrated GPU, but since "enthusiast" is code for "faggot gamer" their target market probably doesn't care about that too much since they'll be slapping some ridiculous graphics card in there anyway.
>>54092608
Pretty sure my fx 8320 can match an outperform, or match, the i5 4460 in the games I play, and can be overclocked for better performance.
Also cost 60 aud less than the i5 when I bought it.
So yes, it does. For battlefield 4. And for gta v I don't care because I'm still getting more than 60FPS
>>54092543
Amd have been banning reviewers from events and from having review samples if they haven't given them favourable reviews. Basically if you don't say amd are the best company in existence you're not getting shit from them.
>>54092682
>>54092718
Ok! I am actually going to build a new computer, and I wanted to take a look at what AMD offers before I make up my mind. I don't play alot of games, but when I do I want it to work perfectly. Wich one would you buy today, if you were building a "gamer" computer?
Three chips and six derivatives are exactly what AMD did with GOAT HD7k series.
7750/7770, 7850/7870, and 7950/7970 (excluding the special release 7870XT which was basically a 7950 with 4 CUs and a faulty memory controller disabled)
Now AMD seem to be releasing three chips, and six derivatives once more.
P11 cutdown/full, p10 cut down/full, and assumedly Vega cut down and full.
With any hopes they can completely replace their product stack and retire all old designs which don't otherwise serve the ultra low end/OEM segments.
You won't see old parts still in inventory drop prices much if at all compared to their new performance equivalents.
>>54092819
If I were building a "gamer" computer for myself rather than waste money on a CPU I would just buy some bleach and drink it, but then I have a sense of shame.
What's your budget?
>>54092682
>The FX CPUs offer about the same real-world performance as an Intel CPU costing twice as much.
Except this isn't true. Amds single core performance sucks balls compared to intel hence why very single threaded games/programs run way better on intel.
>>54092848
>Now AMD seem to be releasing three chips, and six derivatives once more.
polaris 11 is 1/4th the performance of a gtx950, so i'm pretty sure we won't see a desktop version of it. we'll most likely see it in the zen apus coming out next year.
>>54092869
>hence why very single threaded games/programs run way better on intel
Just as well the sort of games/programs which can test a modern CPU are very rarely very single-threaded, then. I already said "real-world performance" to forestall this line of bullshit shilling, Chaim.
>>54092867
>What's your budget?
For the whole rig, I was aiming for something below 2000 USD, but I am flexible.
>>54092819
This would be fine for gaming, the i7 is a bit overkill even
It also includes a high end display, 1440p 144hz and IPS with free-sync
Just needs a 240gb SSD
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>>54092937
All the games I play rely on single thread performance. Even the ones that can use more than one core.
>>54092987
liar
as a tripfag you're far too busy constantly stroking yourself to unsatisfying orgasm at your (unfortunately deluded) perception of your own self-importance to play computer games
>>54092941
If you can go anything like that high then stick with Intel. AMD only makes sense for a comparatively budget build at this point.
>>54092937
Nigga even modern games and most modern programs are very single threaded. Very few actually utilize more than 1 core. Some shitty games like far cry primal require a quad core cpu but even that shitshow of a game doesn't use more than one core.
>>54090343
>>54093065
>if I start with nigga maybe they'll ignore the fact that the rest of my post is unmitigated bullshit
>>54092934
>1/4th the performance
>1/10th the power draw
I'm ok with this.
>>54092312
AMD FX is godly at anything that doesn't need a FPU.
>>54093145
>if I green text about the structure of his post and call everything bullshit maybe he won't notice I have no counter argument
>Le high setting locked to 6+ core meme.
>Core duo performs better than an A10.
ayymd
>>54086566
It's why I'm an AMD loyalist.
The day I can't build an AMD/AMD system off Newegg is the day I stop having computers.
I wouldn't use Intel or Nvidia if you paid me.
>>54093259
>Dual core in 2016
>>54093266
Guess you're just going to end up with Power PC if zen fails
>>54093266
why do you support ISIS?
>>54093266
I bet you own a ps3
How does the AMD A10 7890K compare to I5 processors? Also, how does it handle single threading compared to the FX series?
Don't they supply like all the console cards?
>>54093328
AMD's APUs are even worse than the bulldozer and piledriver FX CPUs. they don't even have l3 cache.
>>54093321
I do, but haven't turned it on since like 2014.
Why? The PowerPC CPU in it?
>>54086520
>stock is worthless
That's why I'm buying them by the thousands. If Zen or Polaris hits right and their stock goes up even 50 cents that's a 20% profit for me
>>54093319
I don't support ISIS but I do think America is a fucking bottom of the barrel piece of shit country.
However it's literally the only country on earth not circling the drain so I'm happy here.
>>54092934
>implying any of those leaks are accurate at all
It's like that December power draw demo of Star Wars: Battlefront simply ceased to exist.
You people are completely, certifiably retarded.
>>54093347
No the nvidia gpu
>>54093346
They're faster per core than the FX line of chips even without the L3 cache.
the 880K starts to keep up with the i3s, but that's about as far as AMD can go right now
>>54093372
AMD is funded by ISIS. saying you're an 'AMD loyalist' also makes you an 'ISIS loyalist'.
Are APUs even good for office computers?
>>54093350
>I'm buying them by the thousands
A 20% return on $20 of shares still isn't worth the time it took you to respond to Jim Keller's craigslist ad and drive to the White Castle to buy them off him
>>54090906
>Intel literally invented x86
Never implied that they didn't :)
>>54086520
nice going Isaac
>>54093415
No. The graphics performance is overkill for an office and its power draw and cpu performance is materially worse than an equivalently priced part from the Palestinian baby blood drinkers at Intel.
>>54090948
>Also AMD and Intel are to ink some deal regarding integrated GPUs for intel chips soon. AMD has no choice since it's desperate for cash. Even if temporary, that just means future gen intels will rape AMD cpus even more. AMD is finished.
But I was talking about discrete GPUs...
>>54092941
even the cheapest i5s will run better than AMD's garbage.
why are people getting their hopes up for zen?
i still remember when bulldozer was gonna shit on intel
>>54093530
also can someone edit AMD and Intel on the faces of those anime fucks
While we're on the topic of AMD: has anyone else been having driver crashes lately? Every time I fire up a game and play for longer than an hour or so the drivers crash and I have to go into task manager to sort everything out. Really getting on my nerves.
>>54086520
>PlayStation master racers
>>54093562
that's normal behavior for AMD hardware
>>54093576
Haha XD funny meme, boy
>>54092984
>Acer XF270HU 144Hz 27.0" Monitor
Are you sure you'll hit 144hz with only a one GPU?
>>54093589
Nothing can really do that yet, but that's what free-sync is for, you could either drop settings to get smoother gameplay or keep the game looking pretty.
A high end polaris/Vega GPU should handle it pretty well. Would be best to get a mid range GPU now since the new ones are only a few months away
>>54093284
>Dual core in 2016
>Ultrabooks
>Most Laptops
>x86 Tablets
>NUCs and other sffs
Wew
>>54093619
Most of those run Quad Core Atoms or at the very least i3s.
only a few low end laptops are pure dual cores.
>>54093639
Okay, well the quality tablets are running an i3 or i5 (dual-core) instead of four weak atom cores.
The Microsoft Surface Pro runs on only dual core CPUs.
Atoms are gimicks.
>>54093414
That's fine.
If buying AMD means I'm officially with ISIS then so be it.
Small price to pay for not supporting evil companies.
I never planned on traveling anywhere anyway. Too poor.
Just as I predicted. Amd had their 2-3 sponsored games which gave them better performance but now that we're back to actual relevant games, they're getting shirted on by nvidia once again.
>m-muh 390
>970 is s-shit
>I like sucking cock
>>54093804
Shitted* on
I full find their products to be decent. I just wish they could do like their competition and reduce the amount of power to use their components.
>>54093804
I own neither the 390 or the 970, but this benchmark is bullshit.
DS3 Runs on one core, is poorly coded and runs better on higher clocks (akin to a game from pre 2000)
Notice how the 780ti is beating the 7970 when as all non cock sucking fanboys know, the 780/ti got gimped hard on tons of newer releases.
But Nice shill Rajeet
>>54087605
are you seriously implying that the opposite is the better alternative
>>54093941
I own both the 780ti and 7970ghz edition.
The 780ti is FAR faster even with gimping.
Granted the gap has shrunk but the 7970 was made to compete with the 680.
>>54093696
The atoms are pretty alright I've used 2 tablets with them in it
The Surface Pro 4 at minimum has an i3 which is a 4 thread CPU, or a shitty m3 but whatever same thing
>>54094050
Well if that 'WAS' the case. Why is the 7970ghz leaving the 680 in the dust?
Fact is, AMD is better for longevity. The 780 was a superb card once, in fact, before the 290 was optimized to it's full potential, the 780 was laughing at the 290. Now look in 90% of games. The 290 is beating the 970 AND the 780ti.
>>54094120
>Why is the 7970ghz leaving the 680 in the dust?
it isn't. pic related, the 7970 is a great card but it isn't aging any better than nvidia's cards are.
>>54088682
i liked to play my SNES for hour and then touch the back of the console with the tip of my kiddy dick. It felt so good.
>>54094309
forgot pic
>>54087614
>>sli does nothing what the fuck so ever
>>54094120
Yes the 290 is beating the 780 but the 7970 isn't beating the 780ti by a long shot.
I am a AMD fan. My next card will be Vega. The only reason i got the 780ti is because i got it free off a richfag friend.
>>54086800
That's what they said about console shit
It's a gamble too, because Zen might just be lukewarm, and AMD basically gave up on Linux so there goes some potential Polaris buyers, they're just not good enough to get the job done anymore
http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
Tfw I still use their CPUs because I can't afford Jewtel
>>54087206
It's more expensive in the long run to pay for fab time than to make your own stuff
>>54088444
DDR4, Skylake, and most intel stuff is just meh when you compare it to older Intel stuff
I want to see a massive increase in FPU performance compared to current hardware, or there's literally no reason for me to upgrade since I wouldn't see a real difference, and AMD might just be able to pull it off with Zen
>>54094325
Anon, why are you using a game from that long ago?
I know back when BF3 was the main title, EVERYONE had Nvidia, but using this pic in 2016 is downright retarded.
May I add the 7970 is essentially a 280x, I get an average of 90+FPS up to a highest of 140-ish on a mix of High/Ultra, Mantle Api.
7970 buyers like myself are literally laughing at how long this card has been viable.
>>54094510
>May I add the 7970 is essentially a 280x, I get an average of 90+FPS up to a highest of 140-ish on a mix of High/Ultra, Mantle Api.
Meant to add, "On BF4 Multiplayer"
>>54091736
That idiot you're replying to is a poor example of a communist, as is bernie and Gorbachev (reason soviet union fell)
>>54090603
literally the opposite of gimping, plus they're discounted anyway so you're still getting your money's worth
>>54094510
I got a 7950 and I've already upgraded it last year.
>>54094582
What did you get? I'm not suggesting that I will never upgrade from my 280x, but jesus fuck this card keeps surprising me how well it copes with the latest titles, about the only game I can think that i notice frame drop is Rust, and I'd tie that to Win10 Memory Leak I've been having.
>AMD fags clinging to the two DX12 titles because it's literally all they have
>Even with the built in async compute engine they barely edge out Nvidia cards
>somehow think that's something to brag about
>>54093956
>that image
wow, flawless logic
>>54086566
>am Jew
>using AMD in PC
>>54093259
>core 2 duo performs better than an a10
It does? Shit, better upgrade from my a8 7600 to an e8400 then!
