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Aside from games, what are the reasons to use Windows over OSX
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Aside from games, what are the reasons to use Windows over OSX or Linux?

At least OSX has a Unix base.

I'm struggling here. It seems that Windows is almost irrelevant.
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>>54050736
What exactly is the upside of having a 'unix base' ?
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>>54050736
>Aside from games

A few professional-grade, windows only software keeps some people from using other OS'.

A lot of people are too fucking dumb to use/install/try anything else.
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>>54050736
Any CAD program
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Unix base is a meme. Unix is a server operating system.

OSX is a crippled OS because the file system is outdated.
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>>54050736
what are the reasons to use OSX or GNU /Linux distro over Windows.
And give me a Botnet answer because it is pretty irrelevant if you have a phone, personal doctor and a bank account.
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Because its been pre-loaded on every machine for decades. I think you fail to see this. It is 'the norm'.
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>>54050802
>*And don't give me
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Druvers that aren't total shit.
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>>54050802
>pretty irrelevant if you have a personal doctor and a bank account.

>>54050828
Don't think anyone's booting up Windows to marvel at the drivers.
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>>54050798
As if NTFS wasn't bad
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>>54050798
>OSX is a crippled OS because the file system is outdated.

What disadvantages does this bring?
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>>54050837
There are plenty of people not booting up Linux because a lack of drivers.
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>>54050736
>I'm struggling here
You're either retarded or just trying to start a flame war. It's not hard to understand why Windows is choice #1 when it comes to desktop OS.
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>>54050862
What drivers is Linux missing?
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>>54050736
I don't suck dicks and don't have a neckbeard.
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>>54050851
None since all you do is browse Facebook and iTunes.
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>>54050851
He doesn't know, he just saw others bashing hfs+ on /g/.
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>>54050870
GPU drivers. Any sort of wireless driver. External device drivers.
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>>54050864
Oops, looks like you posted before you finished writing your post.

Although it looks like you did list top 3 reasons Windows is choice #1 when it comes to desktop OS:
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>>54050879
What would I have to do for disadvantages to arise? And what would those be?>>54050880
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>>54050907
Windows-like performance GPU drivers don't matter if you're not playing games.

It's not 2005 anymore. Wireless devices work out of the box.
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>>54050870
Doesn't support my laptops touchscreen, or gpu, and the wifi was crazy unstable. nor does it seem to handle power savings properly, the battery depleted at idle in about 3 hours where it gets around 5 on windows.
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Software like AutoCAD (FreeCAD/LibreCAD is shit, sorry) or Solidworks is Windows only. Same for Origin (from Origin Labs, not this EA games store) and various accountancy related soft.

Personally, I have various work-related old software without source-code, so I cant compile under Linux.

I use both Windows and Linux distro (Mint) at work, with Windows only at home and I can relate with people, who just want their OS to work, without having to think over, what they are missing or how to set up their machine or what to do, if after updating your distro refuse to load up in graphic mode.

Only Windows up to 7 is so easy to hop in, in my opinion. I ran with various situation, when people disliked 8 and 10 for having to spent way too much time searching for setting or function they needed. 7 was more intuitive in that side.
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>>54050961
Or watching videos without have massive horizontal tearing and frame drops.

Also quality of wifi card driver depends on the manufacturer. Support for other wireless technologies is still completely fucked.
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>>54051002
Doesn't happen
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it's more easy to use, thus more comfy.

Windows' user interface has better usability than Ubuntu or Mint, and it isn't easy-to-use in a retarded way like OSX.

Since it's the mainstream OS, you know everything works with it. software will work better and you will get faster support.
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>>54050736
Gnu/linux doesn't have MS Paint SO WHY THE FUCK WOULD I USE IT!??
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>>54050753
I can't speak for everyone but for me it is the wonderful command line toolset available. I can batch together things much easier on Linux than I can Windows to do common tasks or even not so common tasks that I just want to automate as it is easier than doing the work manually.

Sure you can do most things on Windows as well but it is usually harder and takes longer. You need to hunt down command line tools or install extra things whereas on Linux it "just works" for more advanced things.

Now things I prefer on Windows are Explorer is way better than the shit like Nautilus and Nemo or whatever the fuck is the current shit file manager. Also window management in Windows 10 is better than the default options in the main distros.

I prefer Windows for media stuff but Linux for developer work.
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>>54051307
I use Paint under Wine :)
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>>54051527
Doesn't Powershell work just like bash on a Linux-based OS?

And now that Canonical is working with Microsoft, I think you'd enjoy it.
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>>54050736
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component
of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.
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>>54051527
Thanks for explaining. OP just threw it in there so I didn't understand.
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For me it's because of FL Studio and ease of use.
I don't have the time to learn another operative system.
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>>54050736
MsPaint
Mtpaint is hard as fuck to make a collage
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Aside from ricing autism, what are the reasons to use Linux over Windows or OSX?
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>>54051579
PowerShell is slow and ugly. However with Microsoft bringing bash to Windows things should get better hopefully.

>>54051632
no probs.
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>>54051933
UNIX command line/package manager/FOSS/minimalist OS autisms exist too. Also, you might need to use it if you work on servers for a living.
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>>54050736
>At least OSX has a Unix base.
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>Windows is almost irrelevant.

come on dude. who the fucks actually thinks this.
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>>54051997
Yeah but is there anything you cant do easier and better on windows?
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>>54051997
>you might need to use it if you work on servers for a living.
Literally never the case. If you "work on servers" for a living you're SSH'd into those boxes, or more realistically connected via RDP or RemotePS because 99% of businesses utilize microsoft server and not obscure linux systems.
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>>54052597
>99% of businesses use windows server
Lmao
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>>54052616
>le all businesses run their dcs and mainframes on webservers
lmao kys retard
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>>54050758
Thanks for saying it, this is the real reasons but i'd add one more which i think it has a lot of weigh: Windows is tech at schools to people from a young age as if it were the way a computer should work. So most people has invested a lot of time learning windows so now they think that windows is "natural and intuitive" compared to linux, in contrast this people will not want to invest any time learning anything else even if it has advantages, you can see that clearly here when people claims that the way windows manages packages is superior to package managers.

>>54050788
>Any CAD program
There's a professional program for CAD available on linux with good reviews:
http://cad.softwareinsider.com/compare/5-10/AutoCAD-vs-BricsCAD
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>>54050862
>There are plenty of people not booting up Linux because a lack of drivers.
You're making a lot of things up and mixing truths with lies or outdated facts.

>GPU drivers
Nvidia and intel drivers works corretly, the biggest piece of the puzzle are the AMD drivers and even that is changing:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Hybrid-Linux-Driver
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=AMD-Radeon-Blob-Updates
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=RadeonSI-GL42-Atomic-Cleared
A big problem is that developers has spend a lot of time optimizing for dx which is a windows-only API but vulkan can help with that.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Radeon-VLK-Windows-Linux

>Any sort of wireless driver
I think you're making this or the last time you used linux was +5 years ago, on most laptops i have installed linux the wireless works ootb with the exception of the broadcom adapters, and that can be installed from a convenient gui included in the OS.

>External device drivers
This can have an extremely wide definition, if any devices on linux are recognized immediately and generally doesn't require to install additional drivers.

Yet still you failed to point an actual problem that exists: The most problematic drivers are for specific gaming devices that requires user-space applications not ported to linux.

>Or watching videos without have massive horizontal tearing and frame drops.
This only happens with certain DEs and all graphic devices i have used has an option for tear-free rendering.

>Also quality of wifi card driver depends on the manufacturer.
This is too obvious, when a device doesn't work on windows it's the manufacturer's fault but if it doesn't work on linux is linux's fault?
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I would say that Windows is a completely open platform, but Microsoft is desperately trying to change that with their UWP thing. OSX just feels like a kiddie OS.
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>>54050758
This.
And perhaps we should rephrase 'too fucking dumb' to 'impatient' or 'lazy'.
Also, as some other anon pointed out it is preloaded on approx. 99.7% of all non-apple machines sold and for normal people (browsing, basic text editor and images) there is no difference so why bother?
Sure, you can do 'more' on Linux but all that 'more' you can do is something the vast majority, counting both 'normies' and more advanced users, have no use for.

Tried quite a few distros and always ended up going back to windows because there was something that did not work and I simply don't have the patience/time/knowledge to get it to work.
And I am sure you can get most stuff working on Linux - it's just a matter how which leads us back to square one regarding patience/time/knowledge.
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>>54050736
Because windows works, download a program, install, and you're good to go. Buy some hardware, plug in, up and running. Linux is ok but fucking hell all that flapping around to get shit done is just too much.
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software compatibility, and because you'll see it almost everywhere so you may as well get use to it
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>>54050736
Office > Libre/OpenOffice
VS > Any other IDE
Muh games > Wine
Drivers for any device
Out of the box comfy UI
Windows exclusive softwares
Botnetâ„¢
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>>54052974
Fglrx doesn't have that tear free option, you edit xorg.conf file,you add "Tearfree" "true" line to it,
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>>54053442
>Office > Libreoffice
OK
>VS>Any IDE
Disagree.It broked my computer after installation.I now use just netbeans for Java and Mono for C#.Mono has limits but it won't break my computer
>Games > Wine
muh >>>/v/
>comfy UI
subjective
>Windows exclusive software
Ok
>Botnet
I dont care
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>>54053442
>Office > Libre/OpenOffice
No.
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>>54053530
Word is an absolute masterpiece and Excel is the industry standard. Office does everything better.
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>>54053692
No, Word is the standard because M$ has a monopoly. That doesn't it make it fundamentally better.
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>>54053692
>Word is an absolute masterpiece
Retard
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>>54050736
Only pros I can see are Photoshop, AutoCAD and Adobe Premiere/Sony Vegas. If they were relased on Linux, I bet M$ would lost like 30% of their userbase.
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>>54053818
>30% of the windows userbase cares about photoshop, autocad, premiere/vegas, AND FOSS

Dumbest post of the thread m8.
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>>54053845
Besides vidya, yes. Do you have autism or something ? What would Windows user care about if not Photoshop and AutoCAD ?
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>>54053733
>fundamentally better
Yes it is. They don't have a monopoly, Apple have their office suite and there is alot of third party suite.
M$ Office won the first place by having the best UI, support and functionalities.
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>>54053877
Others just existing doesn't mean M$ doesn't have a monopoly, jackass.
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>>54050736
it's also good for spying on people, monitoring their activities etc.
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Mint seems to work fine with my scanner, my drawing tablet, and router.

Am I just lucky or is it because it's such a beginner-friendly distro?

I want to broaden my horizons but I don't want to spend more time fighting to find drivers that work than actually drawing and shitposting.
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Well, I have a shitty GPU (GeForce 7200 GS) and honestly didn't bother to get a better one because I only use my PC for watching stuff, writing or coding (For games I have my N3DS/Wii U). So I installed Ubuntu after having Windows 8.1 because I thought it could be more useful but it ran like shit, everything was lagging and videos were dropping 2/3 of their frames, so I switched to Windows 10 and everything runs smoothly with no problems.So, if I do get a better GPU I'll consider switching over to Linux again.
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>>54053917
Mint is pretty solid, but it still fails when it comes to more obscure hardware. For example, Mint works well with a Wacom, but I never did get it to work perfectly with the Huion tablet I had.
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Chinese porn books
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>>54050736
it just werks


also games
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>>54053899
Can't you take 5 second to google the market share of Office?
Maybe you should lookup the definition of monopoly.
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>>54053763
Write an essay on Office 2013/2016, the cum in your pants you'll have to wash atfter will make you question your Office orientation.
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>>54053870
What is web browsing, i.e. what 99%+ of people are doing with their computer that Windows came with.
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>>54050736
Vast software and hardware compatibility in the desktop space. As in, it's very good at the one thing every single OS must do: run almost anything a desktop user could possibly want.
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>>54050736
>OSX
kill yourself faggot
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>>54050736
>I'm struggling here. It seems that Windows is almost irrelevant.
Then don't use it.
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>>54050907
linux gets the latest AMD drivers.
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>>54050736
Faggots can't live w/o their vidya gaymes even tho they are grown men. They deserve all the shit they get for using windows
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>>54050907
>GPU drivers
It's not 2004 anymore.
NVIDIA has exactly the same driver as on Windows. Often gets more FPS than Windows, due to the efficiency of Linux.
Intel might get a bit lower FPS than Windows, but you can't game anyway on Intel + you get KMS and Wayland.
AMD have OK drivers for now (RadeonSI or AMDGPU Pro), but they are working on it.
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>>54051933

Being completely independent from and unrelated to either Windows or apple is a virtue for itself.
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