>Macbooks are overpriced
>Ok, show me a similarly priced laptop with the same specs or better. Reminder that $1200 rMBPs have a 2560x1600 retina display, 8GB RAM, NVMe SSDs and the best build quality and support in the business
>...
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
You forgot that one dude who always posts his $800 inferior garbage laptop, usually a Thinkpad.
I think it's a poor idea to spend a thousand dollars or more on a portable computer. That display sure is nice, though; I wish I had a resolution that high on my desktop.
Would anyone else buy a "macbook mini"? It could have last-generation MBA guts and one of those 2048x1536 screens from the iPad Mini.
>>54045198
The new Macbook might be pretty much this
>>54045166
Why do you want that in a laptop
My x201 is perfectly fine for $200
The fuck are you doing on the go
>>54045166
the usual /g/ response is
>only the MBP is worth buying
Thinkpad users are smarter on average I think. Not the old meme thinkpad uses, but new ones. I can tell right away that they are smart.
>>54045206
I doubt they'll ever do a 7" laptop
it would be pretty neat though, especially if it had a sim slot
>>54045166
Dell XPS 15
lower price, lower res screen, better cooling and therefore no thermal throttling, more ram, same graphics, higher clock cpu, nvme storage, ect
fuck off apple shill
>>54045260
Link?
>>54045260
this is where apple guy goes
>"b-but build quality"
as if a 1000+ USD ultrabook would be badly made
>>54045166
S U R F A C E
U
R
F
A
C
E
save ~$100 and get a pro 4 or spend an extra $200 and get a book
the choice is yours
>>54045260
$1200 option comes with a 32GB non NVMe SSD
Not to mention a far worse screen
Next
>>54045272
>As if a Dell product would be badly made
Top zozzle
>>54045166
Do you carry your notebook everywhere?
>buy $350 thinkpad t440 in ebay
>does everything I want it to
If you are doing heavy computational tasks on any laptop you need to reevaluate your decisions
>>54045349
Some of us don't like spending money on "ugly brick heavy shit machine" version X
>>54045166
>in "the business"
Fuck do i hate when people say it like that. Pretentious as fuck.
Also, show me this magical 1200 dollar rMBP
I bought a fucking macbook and i honestly don't know how to fucking navigate it
>no minimize button to be able to alt-tab back to the minimized programs -- simple shit that you do in windows
>have to install 3rd party software to get the windows fullscreened/half/top/bottom
>no go back button in finder like alt-arrow key in windows
dude, maybe i suck did but i CANNOT fucking navigate a macbook in *comfy* mode at all. it's a hastle to manually go click everything without shortcuts and shit
any ideas to help with that? adjusting from windows to mac?
>inb4 blow it up, gent00
>>54045386
Install Windows, obviously.
>>54045166
because any sane person will get a $300 laptop and a top of the line $900 desktop for the same amount of money.
>but I need to show all the chicks in class how macbook my macbook is
Eat shit and die, 99% of Macbook owners use it for fucking facebook and pinterest,
Lenovo Thinkpad T460s
>>54045404
thx d00d yer comment is like the last 3 of yer id
>404
:^)
>>54045264
You lazy fuck
>>54045260
This looks like a goo...
hell.com/au/p/xps-15-9550-laptop/pd
>2500aud
HAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
were the last threads not enough?
>>54045386
>I bought a fucking macbook and i honestly don't know how to fucking navigate it
Well, you're retarded
>>54045480
i think so too but the bigger issue is when i ask people on the interwebz AND in person (yea i leave my dungeon) no one can tell me anything...
feel me?
>>54045356
Aesthics are completely useless on a computer. You want pretty go find an art exhibition. Computers are tools not home decor.
>that hammer is ugly
>that table saw is ugly
>>54045274
The irony in the Surface Book is that it destroys the Surface it's on.
>>54045490
Would love to ruin that ass with my big black dick
>>54045497
>Aesthics are completely useless on a computer.
Ok you fucking nerd LOL
>>54045490
If you want to minimize while also being able to cmd-tab to them, press cmd-h to hide the window.
>>54045423
I'm your doom
>>54045527
thanks dude, i just found that out recently and it's a saver for sure. some programs i've done that with wouldn't come back up automatically... i think sublime is what i noticed it on more prominently
any other gems like that?
>>54045474
999usd
That's 1297aud if you were wondering. I can only imagine the markup on a mac.
>>54045286
>bigger screen
>much faster CPU
>looks nicer
I guess all of that doesn't matter to applefags.
Any gaming laptop.
>>54045551
999USD for a smaller, worse performing SSD, worse CPU and a worse screen (+Dells legendary build quality)
>>54045558
Same CPU
>>54045570
>Same CPU
Not true. Post specs for both.
>>54045551
Mac isnt as bad but specs are the same
http://www.apple.com/au/shop/buy-mac/imac
http://www.apple.com/shop/buy-mac/imac
Apple should create a line of laptops and phones for heterosexuals
>>54045166
Why do people fucking circle jerk so hard over displays? The only reason to even have that nice of a display is if you're a graphic designer. Minus the display, you can get the same specs in other laptops for 600$ or less.
>>54045591
So minus the superior features, you can get a product at a cheaper price?
Groundbreaking analysis going on in this thread.
>Surface pro 3
>£800 with keyboard during sales
>the look on macfags faces when the display responds to touch
Best purchase ever
>>54045591
no clue i went from 720p 5.5" to 5" 1080p and noticed a difference in the panel not so much the dpi
went from a 17" 900p to 15" 768p didnt notice a shit of difference 8" 720 noticed a bit tho
>>54045514
Ok so you're trolling/ shitposting then. 5/10 made me reply.
>>54045591
Why can't you accept that people want certain things and are willing to pay for it?
>>54045570
Actually comparing to a MacBook pro.
On the Dell you get the same processor, same ram, 1tb HDD and 32GB SDD with a GTX 960.
"Muh build quiality", please.
It wasn't long ago MacBook Pros would drop out after 3 years.
The connections from the graphics chipset to the monitor ribbon would fry quite regularly.
Also I used mine for school and apparently transporting it everyday in my nice padded back pack caused the body to bow, so I had to take it apart to get to my CD drive.
>>54045166
My Zenbook is just as good except for the meme resolution and cost exactly half of that price. It's thinner too.
>>54045166
>this thread again
weren't the last 20 enough to "put an end to this meme?"
>>54045260
>lower res screen
Or higher res screen, options are fantastic!
>>54045286
>$1200 option comes with a 32GB non NVMe SSD
And a 1TB hard drive
... Also NVMe is meme-tier
>>54045653
>NVMe is meme-tier
>>54045621
>same processor
It's not the same i5, but the one with 4 actual cores. The one in $1200 Macbook is basically an i3.
OP is a Apple shill.
Hardware aspects aside, OS X's ecosystem is amazing if you have more than one apple device.
Being able to send texts from my rMBP or iPad is awesome and Continuity can be really convenient at times. Facetime is like a native Skype. iCloud Drive integration on Apple devices is pretty smooth and allows me to shitpost on here with reaction images without taking up space on my devices. Airdrop and Airplay are neat. The 2015+ rMBP trackpad is orgasmic thanks to the drivers for it in OS X.
But none of that matters when comparing laptops, right?
>>54045198
>>54045349
If you're going to buy a laptop, why not buying the best? If you're that concerned with couple bucks, obviously macbooks aren't right for you but what's the point of faggots bringing up cheap trash when somebody wants to buy something good?
>>54045260
> lower res screen
So it's pleb trash?
>therefore no thermal throttling
>le throttling meme
>>54045272
It's like you never heard of Dell and Lenovo.
>>54045274
>laptop
>>54045386
Just give it some time, I hated it too at start but now using Windows or Linux feels like going back 5 years in time.
>>54045591
>the only reason to even have that nice performance is if you can't wait a longer
>the only reason to even have that nice keyboard is if you want to type faster/more precise/more enjoyable
>the only reason to even have that nice headphones is if you want your music to sound better
>>54045696
>hardware aspects aside
lol
>>54045709
Literally half of the reason people buy Apple products is their ecosystem.
Fuck off.
>>54045715
And that's why Apple is ripping them of on hardware basis.
>>54045696
You are correct, none of that matters.
>>54045274
>>54045613
>Windows on a tablet
I don't have a reaction image to express my disgust.
>>54045715
Not really. I couldn't care less about all the shit when I bought mine since it was my first Apple device. It's superior at pretty much as important aspects already.
Continuity just raises the bar even further.
>>54045729
Have a spongebob one
>>54045696
3rd party apps can do all of this on Windows and Android
once it's set up it's almost seamless, and for power users (an MBP target market) setup is easy
and that's not even touching what Linux could do
so with the flexibility of other OSs evening the field for the knowledgeable user, all that's left is specs and performance
>>54045763
>3rd party apps
And you lost me
>>54045696
>Facetime is like a native Skype.
That sounds good but how much better is it?
>iCloud Drive integration on Apple devices is pretty smooth and allows me to shitpost on here with reaction images without taking up space on my devices.
Can you transfer any files in and out of your devices easily?
>Airdrop and Airplay are neat.
Can't you do the same in Windows? Transfer files and play files over a network?
>>54045763
>3rd party apps
Quit reading there.
The whole point is that all that shit is first party and just werks.
>>54045769
>>54045779
I don't understand, are you not allowed to augment your ecosystem? I thought this was /g/, land of the rice
>>54045769
You don't use any 3rd party apps on any of your devices?
>>54045795
Have fun searching for and installing your 10 dodgy low quality shitware 3rd party apps mate. "It just works" isn't just a meme.
>>54045166
>no on-site warranty for non-business users.
Dropped for me
>>54045777
>That sounds good but how much better is it?
It doesn't have ads and I never had any issues with it, unlike with Skype.
>Can't you do the same in Windows? Transfer files and play files over a network?
With third party apps it's close, just not as seamless and with potential driver issues, longer set up times and the likes.
>>54045801
It's nice not having to bother with 3rd party apps for the very basics and just to get them for productivity you need like Office or PS.
>>54045803
What does this mean? Like someone coming to you and fixing the laptop?
>>54045814
Yes, Latitudes and ThinkPads offer that service
>>54045777
>Facetime
I wouldn't say it's better, but it's great for what it is. You can video or voice chat with anybody that has an apple device. I've never really had any issues that Skype has had.
>iCloud Drive
While it isn't 110% seamless, it just werks (memes aside). You can download anything from it to any of your devices and it's built into OS X to act exactly like the regular file browser, except anything you put in it is available on all your devices.
>Airdrop and Airplay
It's literally sharing files at the push of a button.
>>54045802
dropbox, onedrive, and Skype are shitty third party apps? hell, onedrive and skype are packed in with windows now.
>>54045831
while nice, Lenovo laptops are piss easy to repair, I could train a monkey (or a business monkey in a suit over the phone) to swap parts
>>54045808
>It's nice not having to bother with 3rd party apps
A good amount of 3rd party apps do a good job of handling the basics if not improving the basics. I'm sure those things work great but everybody uses 3rd party apps for everything anyway.
What are some of your favorite exclusive apps?
>>54045870
>You can download anything from it to any of your devices and it's built into OS X to act exactly like the regular file browser, except anything you put in it is available on all your devices.
So is it pretty much an online storage service that automatically syncs stuff to your other apps? Can you use it to access any files on your Mac remotely?
>>54045166
HP Spectre X360, and for less money it adds a multitouch screen with stylus support and a tablet mode. Build quality is basically identical (I went from an MBP to the Spectre, so I know firsthand) and the only difference in internal design is that HP didn't bother to make all of the components the same color or use fancy stickers.
Apple beats it in service, though.
>>54045166
>retina display
>in the business
how about you put an end to this meme, faggot
>>54045166
>macshit is good
>trackpad
>impossible to click near upper edge
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>even applel themselves has admitted it's utter shit now and has trashed the design to go back to copying 90's era laptops with solid non-click touchpads
>still has no real buttons
>ultra shit tier zero travel chiclet keyboard
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>applel's solution is to cram in a massive heavy 95WHr battery to make up for it
>the battery takes up the space where a cooling system would've been
>overheats at the slightest task
>throttles to 800mhz because of it
>retina meme supposedly for "pros" have have <70% sRGB
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
Can we finally put an end to this meme?
>>54045929
>multitouch screen with stylus support and a tablet mode
>vomit.jpeg
If your "MacBook alternative" doesn't have a 16:10 display, don't even bother posting. It's not even passing the most basic test.
>>54045929
Oh you know first hand do you? I guess it must be true then.
>>54045925
Remote file sharing, remote login, and screen sharing are features separate from iCloud Drive and have to be configured in settings. But yes, that is a native feature.
>>54045993
can you access it from a non-apple device?
>>54045883
Well, another anon mentioned all the continuity stuff already, it's way more convenient than AirDroid/Pushbullet.
Facetime/iMessage deserve extra mentioning, way easier to resources and more stable than Skype. The Notes app is nice if you got an iPhone since it doesn't force to store it all in the cloud. And even something as basic as functional native browser is nice.
All small things that add up.
>>54045929
>$1119 .99 for similar spec with worse CPU and slower SSD. Clearly way cheaper.
>a multitouch screen with stylus support and a tablet mode.
Pretty irrelevant given that most people don't look for that when buying a laptop.
>>54045987
TBQH this and there is the vastly better trackpad but gotta give Winshit faggots a chance to name something somehow close at least.
>>54045697
how does it feel like going back 5 years in time?
>>54046007
Go to the link below and read the second to last paragraph. There's no need for me to spoonfeed you when someone has already gone into depth of the feature.
>http://www.macworld.com/article/2839080/away-from-home-heres-how-to-access-your-mac-remotely.html
>>54046007
It's literally ftp, ssh, and VNC
>>54045953
/thread
>>54046036
Inconsistent and ugly UI, bloat, slower to navigate, no trackpad gestures, having to install extra shit for everything, having to mess with the software at all ... extra points for Win 10 with botnet configuration and 2x settings menus.
And this is assuming the next update doesn't mess something up.
>>54045953
Obviously a troll and/or poorfag but let's do this!
factually incorrect butthurt
>extremely loose near bottom edge
>overall flimsy diving board piece of shit
>OSX is a steaming pile of shit with horrendous battery management
>overheats at the slightest task
>blurry as shit retina meme scaling
nitpicky butthurt
>impossible to click near upper edge
>retina meme supposedly for "pros" have have <70% sRGB
subjective butthurt (mostly factually incorrect too)
>still has no real buttons
>ultra shit tier zero travel chiclet keyboard
semi correct butthurt
>throttles to 800mhz because of it
Only noticeable on Windows, after a good while.
>>54045987
>>54046023
I have to admit that 16:10 displays are really nice on laptops, 16:9 is kind of a stupid meme for anything other than movies and gaming.
Apple's trackpads are really fucking good and and always have been, too. The Spectre's comes really close, and I think the hardware itself is pretty much identical, but the software implementation blows. (It drives me crazy that you can't two-finger "right" click on the left half of the trackpad like you can on Mac.)
I probably would have bought another MBP myself if it weren't for certain windows-only pieces of software that were critical for the job I was in at the time. I actually really love the tablet mode on the Spectre, though, it's really convenient to be able to pick it up off my desk and walk around the shop with it in tablet mode. I used to work at an engineering firm, and it was awesome to go down to the floor with a CAD file open so we could compare it to the real thing, or prop it up on the wiring table with a diagram open, or even just to hand it to the boss when I needed him to take a look at something.
>>54046122
but apple collects everything you type into the finder and:
http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-automatically-collects-safari-searches-user-location-os-x-yosemite-1708185
bot net 2.0?
>>54046286
>16:9 is kind of a stupid meme for anything other than movies and gaming.
Pretty much but they are cheap ... although it's embarrassing how even most premium priced laptops got that shit.
>it's really convenient to be able to pick it up off my desk and walk around the shop with it in tablet mode
It definitely has its uses and upsides but if somebody doesn't plan to use it, it's pretty much a gimmick. Had a laptop with touchscreen before too, so I know the benefits first hand, but never missed it on my macbook either.
>>54046376
If you use the online search, which isn't surprising. Besides, it takes one or two clicks to deactivate it. Not even close to messing with Local Group Editor for Windows.
>>54045166
Here.
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/p-series/p50/
>>54046431
>2,487.60 vs 2,499.00 for Applel
Slower GPU, 500 gram heavier, 16:9 cancer, much worse trackpad and probably lower battery life with rest being almost identical.
What a bargain.
>>54046581
Who needs trackpad when you have clitmouse
>>54046581
>bluury meme display cancer
><4K
>OSX cancer
>ultimate shit tier keyboard
>complete shit battery life doing anything besides facebook
>throttles to 1/10 performance
What a bargain.
>>54046615
Try going back a page with a gesture on your clitmouse.
>>54046625
Try doing anything besides scrolling your facebook wall with your trackshit.
>>54046624
>trolling
what a bargain
>>54046657
>no argument
what a bargain
><4K
Minimal benefit on a laptop, the 16:9 fuck you much harder.
>OSX cancer
>ultimate shit tier keyboard
Stop liking what I don't like.
>complete shit battery life doing anything besides facebook
At least it's still much better than on muh lenovo that can't even do that.
Rest of your points are too dumb to earn a response.
>>54046642
It can literally do everything a clitmouse can, plus more; and got better precission.
What's your point again?
>>54046642
>le facebook meme
its a school night, you should be sleeping
>>54046689
>the 16:9 fuck you much harder.
Keep on meme'ing from your toddler OS.
>>54046695
>le trackshit is good meme
It's past midnight, you should be on your street corner.
>>54045953
this desu senpai
Mactards are truly brainwashed mindless morons if they actually think memebooks are good. I actually fell for the apple meme once. Returned that pile of shit the next week.
>>54046713
Care to explain what you're bitching about in the gif?
>>54046725
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>54046725
Hey, it's okay not to like the keyboard but if you can't see that the trackpad is light years ahead of everything you'll get on Windows and Linux, you're completely deluded, bruv.
>>54046762
>le trackshit is good meme
>le apel is the only company that makes glass touchpads
Why are mactards universally brainwashed morons who can't figure out how google works?
>>54046778
Boy, oh boy. Your caregiver should be concerned.
>>54046762
The more you shill your trackpad, the more you reinforce how much of a deluded clueless retard you are who only gets all his technology news from apple.com.
>>54045260
Speaking of, are these merkamerica refurbished XPS deals legit?
>>54046778
it must suck that your parents could only afford an HP stream for you and you try so hard to deny that you got fucked.
>>54045260
>he fell for the XPS meme
>>54046821
It must suck that you could only afford a shitbook and you try so hard to deny that you had to get fucked in the ass to pay for it.
>>54046821
At least the HP Stream is cheap, so you get what you paid for. Paying similar prices for vastly inferior macbook clones is much, much worse.
>>54046842
>you like that genius bar.jpg
>>54046842
>being this butthurt
its ok man, i understand the pain of having a POS black friday sale PC that can barely compile a Hello World program in C.
>>54046863
>you get what you paid for
...have you USED an HP Stream? Because you wouldn't be saying that if you did, they are steaming piles of shit even by cheap chink garbage standards.
>>54045252
you can't fit a keyboard with full size keys on a 7" laptop, and anything less than full size slows down your typing. it's a bad idea.
>>54045166
>2560x1600 retina display
Does the screen also displays colors in the infrared spectrum? Because it would be really cool to have a screen with totally unnecessary features.
>>54046873
>>being this butthurt
>coming from someone that takes nigger dick up his ass to afford a memebook
ayylmao
it's ok man, i understand the pain of lining up in front of a meme store for a week to line up for the privilege of paying $2000 for a memebook that throttles to 800mhz just from trying to compile hello world
>>54046900
>having a sharper screen with more desktop space and pretty much invisible pixels is useless
>>54046905
>calling anon a nigger loving faggot on 4chan
>>54046936
>muh-muh vertical space!!
>permanent memebar up top
>99% of appletards have fuckhuge toddler dock with candy coated shiny icons on bottom
Guise. Guise?
There's a cool compromise. It's called a Mac Mini. Let's assume that you're in your country cabin and brought along your Ayy Lmao-towable laptop for som serious weekend gayming with your best buddy (no homo). And then you want to for just a little while see how it is to be smug. Just let the Mac Mini use the screen and keyboard of your /v/irgin rig.
Of course, it's not a whole computer in itself. But if you disregard the screen and the keyboard, you get a lot of more bang for the buck if you buy a Mini instead of a Pedobook.
>>54045166
>1200$ only in murica
>close to 3k$ in europe
>1200$ Acer aspire V15, fullhd screen, cuz you can teven see more than that on 15 inch, 8gbram ddr4, gtx950, i7-6700HQ, 240ssd
>>54046936
Visible pixels didn't kill anyone. Productivity and prestanda are two different things. Your invisible pixels is only good for designers who wants everything to look like "tasteful" shades of smug.
>>54046993
>muh-muh vertical space!!
Irrelevant if you want to play gaymes or watch anime, a huge benefit for everything else. It might be shocking to hear but not everybody is a NEET.
>menu bar
>dock
You can configure both to save space.
>>54046993
>muh minimalism
>a single shell prompt on a riced up desktop full of waifus and ponies
>spent weeks customizing your ricer desktop
>thinks they are a developer, but have never commited a line of code to any project
living the dream there
>>54047052
>Visible pixels didn't kill anyone.
Neither has waiting longer for shit to get done, who needs more than a single core cpu, 2gb ram and a HDD!
>Your invisible pixels is only good for designers who wants everything to look like "tasteful" shades of smug.
Or not to have pixeled ass text that is harder on the eye. Why do you want to see each single pixel so bad?
>>54047064
Projectcuck detected! Real coders has a day job and code in their bedroom.
>>54045286
>it's better in most things that actually matter, and worse in one or two places
>waah it's not the exact same computer
By your own logic, your rMBP is inferior to my Thinkpad because it doesn't have an ultrabay.
>>54047088
>using the cuck meme
>Real coders
>coders
mfw
>>54047004
>laptop thread
>posts computer that can't be used in 99% of the situations that laptops are actually supposed to be used for
>>54047084
>Neither has waiting longer for shit to get done, who needs more than a single core cpu, 2gb ram and a HDD!
That'll teach you discipline.
>Or not to have pixeled ass text that is harder on the eye. Why do you want to see each single pixel so bad?
Nice try, Tim Cook. If you're really serious about desktop publishing or writing, you use a black and white-scren. No, not change it to black and white-mode. An exclusively black and-white screen.
I'm using a Samsung S23B350 1920*1080 screen right now. And If I look really hard, I can see some pixles on the corner of the Firefox window. And that's only because the corner is rounded and I'm not using a wallpaper, only plain black.
So the visibility of pixles is pretty much a non-issue for me.
>>54045166
>Does not come with a dedicated pleb graphics card.
Get the fuck out of here you rich retards.
>Money does not mean brains.
>>54047130
Potato-potatoe. Thing is that if you don't get paid for it, then it's no reason to try to contribute to some "necessary" project at Shithub.
That is not to say that participating in a hobby project is bad. Participating in THE Fallout or Civilization 4 or Skyrim-mod may land you a job.
But participating in optimizing the printer drivers for some *nix and get flak by some Jane-come-lately tubmlrina, programming's equivalent to Angela Davis, is just asking for it.
>>54047198
It's potato
A loose collection of words that make the retina macbook shit.
SOLDERED
RAM
GLUED
BATTERY
SHIT
COOLING
NO
PORTS
OVERRATED
RICE
RESOLUTION
>own thinkpad, use emacs
>no RSI
>switch to vim+macbook, falling for the meme
>RSI from the trackpad and moving off the homerow to hjkl
>go back to thinkpad+emacs
>wrists don't feel like hell anymore
i was fooled.
>>54046625
Backspace. Simple. With a clitmouse, your hands are already on the keyboard. No moving back and forth, so you use a mix of key shortcuts and the clitmouse itself.
>>54046689
Come on, 16:10 is nice, but it's not as much better than 16:9 as you make it out to be. Try to calm your irrational sperg rage long enough to use one for a couple hours and you'll see.
>At least it's still much better than on muh lenovo that can't even do that.
i7, 16 GB RAM, 256 GB SSD, and 10-12 hours on a charge. I don't even have to take the anvil of a power brick it has with me.
>It can literally do everything a clitmouse can, plus more; and got better precission.
Precision is actually where a good clitmouse excels. Those are the moments that I most wish any laptop I'm using, PC or Mac, had a clitmouse.
As you put it,
>Stop liking what I don't like.
>>54046743
The magnify feature on it just makes shit XBOX HUEG. The width where you have to point to get it is the same. It doesn't enhance precision or help you aim, it just makes icons fly around and change size.
>>54046804
In my experience Applel trackpads are quite nice in OSX, though if you use it in Windows you'll catch AIDS from the shitty driver.
Also some of Synaptic's are just as nice these days. It took until MS pushed the multitouch stuff hard, but it finally happened. Sadly some OEMs cripple the options in the driver, though you can get a generic driver from Synaptics.
>>54047148
>That'll teach you discipline.
But it will decrease favorable posts per hour. We're not paid for discipline.
>>54045229
Why?
>>54047360
Two factors.
Stupid users are more attracted to glitz and glamour than actual usability and features.
Stupid users are triggered by the word "Think". Makes them feel somehow inferior.
>>54047244
sounds like designated shitting streets kinda
DESIGNATED
MACHINES
>>54047391
>designated shitting streets
What is so bad about designated shitting streets? Without designated shitting streets, where will we be going to shit?
>this whole thread
/g/ truly has fallen
>>54046399
>Pretty much but they are cheap ... although it's embarrassing how even most premium priced laptops got that shit.
Not most, ALL. You cannot get a non-16:9 laptop now other than a MacBook. Best you can do are a few tablets or convertibles like the Surface series. If nothing else, Apple deserves massive credit for persevering with 16:10 in the face of the entire industry.
>>54045696
Skype is native skype on Windows and it's multi-platform so you can use it anywhere include apple devices. Onedrive is also multi-platform.
>Airdrop and Airplay
File sharing and streaming with some cool names is somehow better?
>>54046581
>slower GPU
m2000m slower? wat a laff
>probably lower battery
14 hours on idle, 2 hours on max load
also:
>64GB max memory
>4K display
>Xeon
>better keyboard
>better build quality
for around the same price
Applel shill please leave, you have no argument
>>54047490
But why? Perhaps so when that panel shatters, you can't replace it easily from ebay. No, you have to buy an expensive panel that is only used in Macs. And good luck getting that glued-on glass plate off in one piece.
>>54045696
>Being able to send texts from my rMBP or iPad is awesome
Isn't this what the Phone Companion crapp does on Win10? Or is it something retarded? I don't know since I don't have a Windows phone and haven't signed into Win10 with an MS account.
>>54047562
>>64GB max memory
>>4K display
>>Xeon
This sounds like it has OP's rMBP beat on almost everything.
>>54047314
> to use one for a couple hours and you'll see
Please no. 16:9 is pretty damn horrible, especially on smaller screens. Although to be fair I prefer 12-13", where it's even more noticeable, with 15'6 it should be somehow bearable.
>10-12 hours on a charge
Not with the 4k version I take. And 10h sounds pretty damn good and better than in reviews. Do you lower the brightness to dumb levels or how?
>Precision is actually where a good clitmouse excels.
Sounds physically improbable but I didn't use one in ... about a decade. Let's assume it's as subjective as keyboard then.
Let's even ignore the 16:9ness, we're still left with a heavier laptop for almost the same price but with better GPU, so while it serves as an alternative, it also serves to disprove the MACBOOKS ARE SOOO OVERPRICED meme, and only comparable to the 15" Macbook. How about much cheaper alternatives for the 13" one?
As for the magnify feature ... it's probably nice for your grandma to disconcern whether she's clicking on Firefox or checking her emails ... I guess. Luckily one can easy disable the shit.
>>54047490
Well, there is the Chromebook Pixel and Sur-hingebook too.
>>54047562
>m2000m slower? wat a laff
My bad, didn't see they still use the fucking M370X, faster GPU for the P50 it is then.
>14 hours on idle
>idle
>relevant
>64GB max memory
Totally useful on a laptop.
>4K display
But 16:9, balances itself out. (not like there are many returns from 4k on a laptop) No idea about the stats from it but I take they should be similar enough.
>Xeon
>any different than i7
>better keyboard
Subjective.
>better build quality
Talking out of your ass-bjective.
>>54047602
Not like anybody uses Windows phones. There is AirDroid or Pushbullet for Android but not nearly as nice and both got paid options.
Also how the fuck would you manage to break a laptop screen? At least the idiots who drop their phones got an excuse, since one carries that thing in the hand all the time and can't be assed to pay too much attention. To do it with a laptop requires dedication to the cause.
>>54046023
>And even something as basic as functional native browser is nice.
Holy shit.
Are you just trying to be the biggest cuck ever ?
>>54047778
I don't have to try xd
>>54045166
>good build quality
I know this is bait but just putting it out there for the less tech savvy.
Apple is well known for having overheating and display problems (problems with screen lamination and glue leaking out after a while). Just do a google search and youll find all you need to know.
Every brand has problems sometimes apple always sweeps problems under the rugand there have been plenty of petitions and lawsuits against apple to replace faulty prices.
Buy whatever you likebut dont come crying once you realize you overpaid for having an apple logo.
>>54047662
>Please no. 16:9 is pretty damn horrible, especially on smaller screens.
Yeah, because the closer to square a rectangle is, the more area it will have for its diagonal. I gotta say though, my AspireOne's 12" 1366x768 is pretty usable, though small screens and *x768 resolutions are rather cramped.
>>54047662
>Not with the 4k version I take.
I don't know. I have a 1080p IPS panel in it that I got off AliExpress. I didn't have a real choice when I bought the laptop since I got it factory refurb off ebay for about half price. It's 14" and the pixel size is pretty close to 'retina' already, but still big enough to use at full resolution without pixel doubling.
>>54047662
>10h sounds pretty damn good and better than in reviews. Do you lower the brightness to dumb levels or how?
It's a T440p. Battery is removable, and mine came with the 9-cell extended life one. The battery life goes down some when I have a second HDD in the optical bay, but it does manage pretty much all-day battery life. It might also affect things that I disallow Javascript from 3rd party sources by default, which tends to cut CPU hogging while browsing.
>>54047662
>we're still left with a heavier laptop for almost the same price
Yeah it is heavier. However...
- Cooling is good enough that even with CPU and GPU at full, I don't get above the low 80s. No throttling, ever.
- Optical drive is easily removable after I removed a screw from inside, and hot-swappable with a HDD
- Battery is removable, so I can replace it or change out the cells when it finally bites the dust.
>14 hours on idle
Idle is what it does most of the time when you're doing the usual activities: office, email, browsing, etc,.
>any different than i7
It rather is. More cache, more pipelines, more instructions completed per second.
>>64GB max memory
>Totally useful on a laptop.
Remember, this is a workstation, for things like Photoshop on huge images, video rendering, CAD, etc., not a Facebook machine.
>>54046821
This is so fun.
Discussion partly starts with a quality comparison between 2 laptops in the same price range.
>poorfag
There's no problem with just buying a logo, but just admit it already, instead of hiding behind your "arguments".
>>54047692
>how the fuck would you manage to break a laptop screen?
Don't ask me. Ask the people who have given me shattered laptops to fix, mostly shitty ones but some decent. They always have a lot of wear on their HDDs too. I don't know what the fuck normies do to their laptops.
>>54046625
>wut is backspace?
>>54047230
>DESIGNATED
>SPELLING BEE
>MORON
Wake me up when you get me a NSA/FBI-free machine (no CP).
>>54045166
>Macbooks
1300 usd for I5-5287U
or
1100 usd for I5-5257U - retina.
They think this is a good deal, while laptops with
i3-6100u cost 755 usd - and literally the mobile i3 is on the same performance level..
+
>OS X
why???
>>54048217
Oh and for the 15 inch models they sell refurbished 4th gen i7's.. yea they placed i7 there because scrubs will think - wow so awesome, much power...
Literally laptops for retards.
>>54045166
The ASUS ZenBook Pro UX501VW is speced better than the highest end MacBook Pro at only $1,499.
Just saying.
>>54048245
>worthy Mac replacement
>Is totally a Mac clone
>>54045584
>what are their current range of products
Apple makes products for girls and effeminate men. What straight male would buy a fucking pink phone?
>>54048245
Well it's miles ahead of mac-books.
>>54045965
>judges a professional device for having peripherals that can help productivity.
>>54048249
>Mac clone
Possibly but with better performance and a cheaper price. Only reason to get a MacBook over it would be for OS X.
>>54048217
Yes mate. The CPU is EVERYTHING
Fuck off idiot
>>54048245
Damn checking on the laptop technical aspects - it's truly orgasmic - If I was a rich fag I would just buy that laptop instantly, even if it's overkill for average user and even for most professionals.. it's just a monster that looks good.
>>54048249
>same or better stuff for the price
>more ports
If you're gonna bitch about machines that aren't identical to a Mac, don't complain when someone posts one that *is*.
>>54045314
Yes
>>54048266
Damn you're such a stupid mac lover.
You people just buy a logo, nothing more.
I bet none of you would purchase a map if none of your friends would see it - what would be the point amirite?
>>54048250
>Apple makes products for girls and effeminate men.
Hipsters.
Please don't insult girls and effeminate men.
>What straight male would buy a fucking pink phone?
I for one would consider it. Not an iPhone though. Too locked down and all.
>>54048280
Shitpost
>>54046184
Everything you typed is wrong. You call out the complaints about the screen as nitpicky however laud the benefits of a shit huge res on a fucking 13-15 inch laptop? Fuck off iSheep
>>54048250
It's less likely to get stolen by coloreds if it's pink.
>>54048262
>Only reason to get a MacBook over it would be for OS X.
Not even that. Hackintosh.
>>54048280
>I bet none of you would purchase a map if none of your friends would see it
No, by now they're brainwashed to think they're the best or only viable computers to buy.
>>54048306
>Hackintosh
>Not complete and utter shit
>>54048312
Give it suitable hardware and it's every bit as good as a Mac -- because it's the same fucking thing. Remember, OSX is picky as fuck about its hardware. It won't run well on just any old machine.
>>54047822
>I have a 1080p IPS panel
Then the whole point is moot, anon. It's given that lower resolution options will be cheaper/last longer than screens with high resolution.
While 1080p is sufficient for 14", some people want to go beyond "good enough" to "great".
Also the pixel doubling with Retina isn't mandatory, you can use the screens native resolution or something lower to hit your personal sweet spot. I found 1920*1200 the best on muh 12" screen, for example.
>Battery is removable
A plus if you want to keep the laptop long enough till it degrades for sure, or if you're want to be a battery swapping neckbeard.
Being able to add more storage is always nice too obviously. And yeah, disallowing Javascript is a great way to get more time, although cripples a lot sites. You'd get day long browsing with a MPB without that.
> I don't get above the low 80s. No throttling, ever.
While the Macbook gets hotter, there is no throttling on OSX either. So better cooling doesn't offer actual benefits here.
>Idle is what it does most of the time when you're doing the usual activities: office, email, browsing, etc,.
Not at all. Idle is what it says, when you have the screen on and NOTHING happens. Even simple tasks can drain the CPU relatively fast since it has to crack up the clock from time to time. Sites like notebookcheck have idle and browsing in different categories for a reason.
>Xeon
Well, 2MB L3 cache and ECC support would be the main benefits. Nice to have I guess. Though performance wise it's pretty much identical with the old ass HASWELL from MBP.
64GB memory is still a meme, workstation or not. Even with couple VMs running, you'll have a hard time even using up 32GB, and will sooner run into CPU bottleneck.
>Photoshop on huge images, video rendering
Will be bored with 16GB.
Then we're at a more powerful, heavier laptop with better upgradability for a similar price. Still no where the APPLE IZ OVERPRICED :(
>>54048710
>While 1080p is sufficient for 14"
it's already overkill, you dumb shit
>no throttling on OSX
you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
>you'll have a hard time even using up 32GB
go back to your 10 bit cartoons, you have no use for a workstation
>>54047852
Well, I wouldn't be surprised about HDD wear if they put their laptops in their backpacks and jungle with them but breaking a laptop screen ... that's impressive. I know some idiots who managed to step on theirs while it was closed but it didn't do that much, and these were plastic Toshibas.
>>54048217
i5 got HT, so no. Besides, there is a bit more to a laptop than a CPU.
>>54048245
>heavier
>shit trackpad (no clit excuse here, Thinkpad fags)
>slightly worse battery life
>almost identical performance (according to reviews, no idea how they managed it with slightly more powerful hardware)
>meh-ish keyboard (but this is obviously subjective)
Although it's about 1k cheaper than MPB with same SSD capacity.
Still no alternatives to the 13" MPB in OP though.
>>54048290
If you don't see the benefits of respectable resolutions, regardless the screen size, you should check your eyes, friend.
>>54048306
>hackintosh
>professional environment
>>54048739
>go back to your 10 bit cartoons, you have no use for a workstation
He can't watch those properly though. OSX doesn't do 10 bit output. You have to get Windows for that.
>>54048739
>resolution of a standard 5" phone on a 14" screen
>overkill
It's nice that you manage to post despite your blindness but you're quite wrong.
>you don't know what the fuck you're talking about
Prove it.
>go back to your 10 bit cartoons
Go on, tell us how you're going to use up 32GB in a realistic scenario with a laptop CPU. (hint: opening 20 VMs and 500 browser tabs while editing 4K movie isn't a realistic scenario)
>>54048816
>resolution of a standard 5" phone on a 14" screen
this might shock you but people without down syndrome don't keep their face 3 inches from a 14" screen
>prove me wrong
fuck off
>the only realistic scenario I can accept is watching animu
stay dumb
>>54045166
I'm not a westerner I don't have the money for a 1,000$ computer
>>54048854
>3 inches from a 14" screen
You can be 2 meters away and still notice the larger workspace. The pixels should be visible from about 60cm too, check your glasses.
As for the rest, typical bullshit claims then? Color me surprised.
>>54048856
But anon, it's shit. Buy a low resolution toaster twice the size, it's all the same!
>>54045953
got 13 rMBP 2015 and 15 rMBP 2015 (from work), all that this neet says is blatantly false
>>54048326
OSX running on Linux kernel when
>>54048885
>pixels should be visible from about 60cm too
animoooooo
>>54045166
>and the best build quality
hue
>>54045497
Aesthetics are completely useless everywhere you dumb shit
It's up to personal preference
>>54045697
>le throttling meme
I'm >>54048960, working as senior dev full time, used linux for 5 years everyday 8hrs/day minimum, switched to osx as I started working on a big enterprise (almost all the companies use macbooks, if you're in the 95% of /g/ users that never worked a day in their life)
2-3 years using imacs at office an those 2 notebooks, NEVER had a single fucking time the so-called "thermal problems". The only time I heard the fan is because I was playing dota2 so who the fuck are you trying to convince?
>>54045166
>2016
>$1200 for notebook computer
you on drugs boy
>>54049025
Or you used all your money on drugs to bitch about something so insignificant.
just leaving this here, reply if you can get nowhere near this on a unix based OS, try harder with your chinkpads
>>54049008
>senior dev
writing css doesn't make you a "senior dev" regardless of how slow you do it for 8h/day for 5 years
>so-called "thermal problems"
sure, when all you're doing is using a text editor...
>>54049025
earning €4200 / month after taxes as a developer to work remotely from home... yeah I think I can afford one or two... fucking uni dropouts
>>54049035
15 hours on x220 with 9 cell
>>54049042
yeah.. no I got 9 years of experience on full stack development in c# ruby python js, sw architecture, oracle dbms, postgres, microservices, load balancing, FP and way, way, way more... try harder boy, maybe your mum will be able to afford an apple product for ya
>>54049055
on loonix? actually using it? 1366x768?
>>54049063
>ruby python js
I'm sorry but you're not a programmer.
>>54049078
>picks 3 things out to bitch
Welfare niggas aren't even trying anymore.
>>54049088
>full stack
>webscale
Yeah, you're a webcuck, alright!
>>54049063
>full stack
>oracle
shit, nigga, where's yo mongo at?
![class-classy-computer-fashion-Favim.com-2777348[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4KWOBYD.jpg "class-classy-computer-fashion-Favim.com-2777348[1].jpg")
Thing is you name many different computers that are better in certain aspects. Macfags think that because one PC doesn't beat the macbook in every single aspect they can think of, even if the PC beats it in 9/10 use cases, the mac is better because of X cherry picked metric. It wins be default because its made by Apple.
Actually think about how you're going to use your laptop. There are more portable laptops than the macbook for less than 1/2 the price. There are more powerful latptops for less than 1/2 the price. There are laptops with removable batteries for days long mobile usage, there are laptops with much higher color accuracy for professional use. All fractions of the price of a macbook.
The macbook is just consumer-grade quality all around, but does nothing well for its price range. There are no PCs that imitate it because its pointless. Mindless brand sheep buy macs because they're made by Apple, not because of quality or performance. There is no point in any PC maker trying to make an overpriced vogue consumer laptop.
>>54045166
>$1200
Why do faggots spend so much money on laptops??? The only reason it makes sense to me if you work remotely
>>54049101
I know it's crazy but have you considered that some people want a portable, powerful laptop with a great screen that lasts entire work day? Not buying 3 different ones.
>>54049113
>$1200
>much
Sorry to hear that, Pedro.
>>54049127
>Sorry to hear that, Pedro.
>he doesn't want to spend $1200 on a paperweight he must be poor!!!
You shills are terrible at this.
>>54049113
That doesn't make sense either. If you work remotely you can put together an overpowered desktop for the money that will easily last you the next 10 years.
Maybe if you work remotely only from trains/airplanes...
>>54049141
>nobody can name a comparable 13" laptop
>IT'S A PAPERWEIGHT
>>54049153
I'm not even arguing against any of the points you made, faggot. If you're in college buy a laptop otherwise, it's a huge waste.
>>54049144
I'm just trying to think of a reason I would need one. My $500 Laptop is just gathering dust.
>>54049127
Except the mac isn't powerful. Nor is it relativity portable with a built in battery. You have 6 hours about. That's it. The screen is high res, but not accurate enough to be suitable for professional use.
Its mediocre in every area for its price. Its like if you took the best aspects of 3 different $600 walmart PCs, put them together, with a better aesthetic design.
>>54049100
yeah I kno nosql structures too, as well as time series and many others... whats your excuse?
>>54049207
>I kno
we can tell
>>54049171
see >>54049035
can confirm I get a full work day (8-10hours) on battery actually USING it, that's why I prefer the 13' than 15', but they are bot great for development
>>54049215
> he has valid points but he did a typo so better complain on that
damn son, you way over the pathetic scale, 2/10 made me reply
>>54049231
I was issued a 15'' rMBP for work, and never get ~5-6hr. The display says 9 hours, but the clock ticks down faster than real life.
>>54045603
>>54045697
Why pay for features you don't need?
>>54049169
>having a portable computer is a huge waste
Only if you never leave your basement, Pedro.
>>54049171
>You have 6 hours about.
Negro what? It's easy 8h with normal use, more if you just watch a movie on a flight.
>Except the mac isn't powerful.
Compared to muh Alienware and similar huge shit. The 13" MBP is the fastest ultraportable.
>The screen is high res, but not accurate enough to be suitable for professional use.
Nor does it need to be, you buy an external monitor for that. It gives you a much better experience than low res trash from noticeable cheaper laptops.
>Its mediocre in every area for its price.
Interesting definition of mediocre. A more accurate term would be "upper class", given that the price is too, it fits perfectly.
>Its like if you took the best aspects of 3 different $600 walmart PCs
Name a $600 PC that has a high res screen. Name one that lasts longer than 8h. Name one that is slimmer.
Besides, it would still miss the point. Having 3 laptops is retarded when you can buy one.
>>54049248
Why bitching about them as it happens in every thread minimally related to macs? If you claim something is overpriced, then there should be another device that offers it all for much less.
>>54049242
don't you mean webscale, csscuck?
>>54049270
>Only if you never leave your basement, Pedro.
lol you're trying to hard.
>>54049245
What brightness? What exactly do you do on it?
>>54049231
can confirm you're not actually working
>>54048855
>thinking a 5+ year old picture is still relevant on a technology board
>this thread
Is this the daily shitposting thread?
>>54049270
>easy 8h with normal shitposting
ftfy
>>54049295
To be fair, Windows laptops only regressed since that. At least they had 16:10 options back in the day. Now it's pure consumer trash even on "business" laptops.
>>54049270
>The 13" MBP is the fastest ultraportable
False.
>>54049270
>Nor does it need to be
confirmed shill
>>54049309
What other uses 28W CPU? Surfacebook might quality but the hinge makes it too fat for an ultraportable I think.
>>54049305
this. consumer PCs have gone to absolute shit. So you literally have to choice to buy cheap PC dog shit, or slightly upscale mac dog shit with a shiny logo.
either way, you get fucked.
>>54049321
>but the hinge makes it too fat
Nor does it need to be slim!
>>54049323
>consumer
anon, "consumer" anything was always shit
>>54049317
>expecting screen for professional work on a laptop for half the price of the screen
>>54049326
If it wants to qualify for ultrabook, it does. Though as I said, I am not sure if it really makes it too fat or if it's slim enough to qualify.
>>54049321
>What other has an apple logo?
Nice shilling!
>>54049340
>can't even name ONE ultrabook with 28W cpu
>>54049280
never mentioned that buzzword on any of my post. how is unemployment doing, neet friend?
>>54049346
Nor does it need a 28W cpu!
>>54049386
>that buzzword
yeah, you missed one, it happens; stay at it, wageslave!
>>54049394
>wageslave
oh boy thats a new one, you basement creatures are one of a kind... anyone got the pajeet post with troll hand living in the basement as a polska slave?
>>54045166
What is the point of it?
I mean, if you are the average applefag you don't have any need for the big display or decent hardware since all you are gonna use it for is facebook and photoshopping pictures of yourself to make your profile picture look less disgusting, maybe use it to write some essay for their liberal arts degree.
And if you are a techfag then you would much rather just get a desktop, and since you already have a desktop, you don't need a super expensive laptop, just one that's decent enough for portable use.
>>54049127
It's quite hard for a product to do everything. Do you own an iPad by any chance? There are situations where a tablet or even a phone can do things that a laptop can't such as watching video on a couch without the extra weight.
>>54049402
>thats a new one
confirmed newfag shill
>>54049333
>qualify for ultrabook
the macbooks are not ultrabooks
My work gave me a retina macbook pro. The thing is buggy as fuck, specifically the screen, weird scaling issues between it and monitors.
And yes, I've looked online and these issues are widespread. Its just a major deficiency of the product.
>>54049418
sorry man, I'll remember to drop you a coin next time I'll go get groceries
