Who here unironically uses Gnome?
>>54042582
I used to but then I found XFCE. With a bit of ricing, it looks much better and is more functional than GNOME
I do. It's comfy, beautiful, integrates with my online accounts easily (e.g. just enter my gmail and I get my Google Drie integrated into nautlius) and I can use it with Wayland today.
>>54042644
Do you need to manually configure it to use wayland?
>>54042662
No, just select the Wayland session at GDM.
I do. It's cosy.
Gnome is my desktop environment of choice on GNU/Linux.
3.22 looking nice already.
https://plus.google.com/112055140785156832357/posts/bgyjhP3Gqgu
I use it on my laptop. It's okay, though every new "feature" is a regression from even 3.0. Do any other DE's have the same hot-corner thing and good extensibility?
>>54042582
>Using anything but KDE Plasma
>>54042861
I'd rather kill myself.
>>54042881
Spotted the mentally fragile GNOME user
I do.
>Graphics don't tear like some other DEs (GTX660)
>Top bar feels... Okay...
>Dash to dock is my wifu...
It does feel clunky, but what better is there?
yeah on my fedora box mostly now.
have it on my laptop too, but learned the joys of mate, so been using that there instead.
Tried using it unironically for a month with a quick default fedora install
Shit defaults, broken keybindings, pointlessly bloated
It's pointless to use GNU/Linux and not have a custom environment from scratch
>>54043885
ok first 2 lines, and i use gnome unironically.
3rd is the dumbest thing i've heard.
the whole point is you can have it how you want, and not that you HAVE to use some trendy tiling wm to look good in desktop threads. after a few extensions, gnome is bretty gud
me
>>54042829
>hot corner thing
I used lxde for 39 seconds and went back to gnome when it didn't have this.
>>54042582
Gnome 3 and Xmonad reporting in
>>54043924
why would i waste time unfucking shit defaults, having tons of worthless packages installed and get eye cancer when I can set up my environment and import my config files in ~10min from a minimal install?
>>54044135
do whatever the fuck you want
>>54042829
You could look into xfdashboard. It's ricable through CSS like gnome-shell.
I want to like Gnome. It's a great idea, a fresh take on the desktop, looks nice, ticks a lot of boxes.
But fuck, why do I need to install tweak-tool to make it even usable? Why are the animations so long? Why does it come with so much USELESS GARBAGE. Why is it so un-customizable when it's on fucking Linux? It sacrifices so many important things for no reason that I just can't want to use it.
JUST
USE
CINNAMON
the literal, LITERAL, only reason to not use GNOME is if your computer is too slow to run it
and if it is you should be using mate ie gnome for slow computers or laptops that require constant low power functioning
>>54045040
1) You don't
2) Define "long"
3) Such as?
4) Because most people don't customize their software and every option offered comes with a maintenance, code and usability cost.
Makes me jizz every time I press the Windows key.
Sorry OP, I only use desktop environments ironically.
>>54042582
I do, but I'm currently trying out bspwm. If I can't figure out how to rotate the layout (bspc desktop -R 90 does nothing) I might well end up going back to GNOME and gTile.
>>54042774
Man that looks pretty alright
>>54042861
KDE looks anything but alright
>>54045398
I feel like I should clarify, I think Qt by itself looks pretty alright. Maybe better than GTK, definitely at least on the same level. KDE managed to screw that right up though.
I prefer it over unity because it's comfy
I'll probably move on from it if i find a DE that looks better to me
>>54042582
I do.
Sadly, I fell for the tiling wm meme for about 4 years before I saw the light. I must say, the 21st century is nice.
I did until I started using Lumina.
Tech illiterates who uses Linux.
>>54046419
ok kid
>>54045406
Heh KDE, by itself fixes s pot of Qts bullshit. Hotkey management and file picker are two of the biggest examples.
Have you used lxqt? It's absolutely horrible
Why I do.
>>54042582
Me.
Wonderful on debian jessie. I tried using LXDE, KDE, KDE Plasma, Riced Openbox, XFCE, I3.. and i always ended up going right back to GNOME. GNOME is love, GNOME, is life.
>>54042582
Been using it for the last 3 hours. Makes me want to go hang myself. Minimalist piece of shit DE, why the fuck couldn't they just continue developing GNOME 2? Why did they have to fuck it all up, why didn't they just branch off with their minimalist shit and do a different DE? Why are GNOME devs such utter faggots? And why are there so many Linuxfags who apparently don't need any functionality from their DE?
Gnome is garbage but if you like using it more power to you, it's Linux after all.
XFCE master race reporting in.
>>54046960
Gnome is very functional.. lol
Theres this wonderful project called MATE, i would recommend it to you. MATE is very retro and you will love it very much.
I used to, but then it changed so I moved to xfce to keep a familiar environment.
I really dislike GNOME's defaults, but with just a little bit of tweaking it became the environment I've been the most happy with. It's hardly without its faults but everything else has been a lot harder to work with. 3.18 on Wayland was almost ready for daily usage so it wouldn't surprise me if 3.20 is there now, which is also a nice perk.
>>54046960
Make sure to go through gnome-tweak-tool and a few pages on extensions.gnome.org
>>54042582
Elliot
>>54042624
> more functional than gnome
>>54042582
I do.
Yes, GNOME just works.
Would use. Problem is, animations kinda stutter over here (granted I didn't try my iGPU, only my AMD GPU) and I wanted to have lots of trackpad gestures.
>>54043924
>trendy tiling WMs
Well i3 comes with sane defaults ootb, has working key bindings, uses about 10 times less resources than GNOME and you can learn it in about 5 minutes
It doesn't have flashy effects, OK, but it gets the job done
I used to when I ran GNU/Linux. Now I use the superior Windows 10, but to be honest I sometimes miss the overall philosophy and simplicity of Gnome 3. I also loved the default theme, the huge controls and title bars are comfy and I liked that font.
>>54042582
I do. Funnily enough Gnome 3 is very similar to how I had Gnome 2 set up using compiz back in the day.
>>54043885
try using it ironically
I used to but then I got used to keyboard shortcuts because clicking Activities made the ram usage go up and now use Openbox.
using gnome right now and its good but there is still much to learn about its inner workings
>>54048496
White emacs baka
I do. Fedora.
>>54042829
KDE but you have to confugure it manually
>>54042582
I do but only because I have a foot fetish
>>54042582
I use it again. After GNOME 3 was first released, it was a massive pile of shit for a few years. It started to not suck so much and compared to other desktop environments I really had no other choice. It's still incredibly disappointing, but what do you expect with a project run by a bunch of students looking to pad their resume.
>>54047247
>with just a little bit of tweaking
All that is possible in that shitty "this is the way it is, we developers know best" desktop environment.
>gnome
>>54048394
>just werks
>cannot even manually type a command to open a file with
>no preview when uploading an image
>a top bar which is utterly useless
>have to click on top corner to view the list of applications running
>>54042582
I use the classic Gnome shell with Kali if that counts
>>54048993
Delightful as always, Anon. Fact that should within all reason be well known by now: GNOME's extension support lets you change way more than almost every other desktop environment does. That is pretty much the direct opposite of "this is the way it is, we developers know best", as you put it. But I guess everything needs a cute GUI for it to count as customisable nowadays.
Sure, it's not always trivial to get something how you want it unless someone has already done the heavy lifting. Absolutely. But pretending that you only get to use it within the scope of how the developers imagined it is just deluded. You can do better.
>>54049274
honestly I'm pretty impressed
>>54049212
>>54049274
I knew there was a reason this place is such a shithole
>>54045443
idk tiling can be nice here and there. I use gTile to keep the stuff on my second monitor all in place. A strip across the top for IRC, a chunk of terminal below that, and email and nautilus dividing up the remaining space.
>>54046037
That looks like it could be alright. I'll give it a try.
>>54046848
I haven't, maybe I should try it out just to see.
Are there any other WMs that have an overview-type feature, or is there a way to get overview on other WMs?
>>54042582
MATE > other shit > KDE > GNOME 3
>>54050519
Plasma>othershit
>>54050519
>>54050539
wrong. KDE is such a fucking hellhole of a mess I dont even know where to begin. It has the kind of philosopshy where evrything is custimizable and separate so it takes fucking forever to customize it just right
and then in many ways its not customizable easily at all; especially in theming. All the downloadable themes from within the kde settings application are gross and retarded. you cannot customize the panel as easily as mate, xfce, or even tint2. im sure that if you remove a lot of the meme features, get a theme that looks like gtk3, and figured out how to minimalize the panel and remove a lot of the bullshit then it'd be great. but unfortunately its not that easy to do.
gnome is love
mate is second best
nothing else should even apply
>>54048293
How do you get your shit transparent?
>>54051286
You have literally never used KDE
I use it on my "gaming" machine. It's ok but I like KDE and MATE better
>>54051340
There are extensions, and some shell themes decide to make it transparent. Xenlism is one of them, but its GTK theme hasn't been updated to 3.20 last time I checked. The Xenlism shell theme still looks nice with like Arc or something, which is what I have now until its GTK theme catches up.
>>54051408
Forgot pic
>>54051416
Thanks
>>54051428
No problem, anon, you know I'd do anything for you. <3
>>54042582
I'm using mate because i'm crazyyy.
I really like the fact that you can make a real minimal installation and use thunar as filer manager, and it's real good with the resources around 400 MB.
>>54051564
Tell me more about MATE. I still haven't tried it out yet.
>>54051564
It's basically just XFCE with a bottom panel (which you can remove) and arguably better menus/lockscreen/etc other small things.
>>54051340
Activate user themes and then download "mist"
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Mist?content=168819
>>54051666
Well maybe i'm about to be told 'bout a bunch o thingss. but under arch it's viable to install just the core package and avoiding things you don't need. And complement it with things i like, such as thunar and the xfce terminal.
>>54042582
Mate desktop environment user here (forked Gnome 2).
>>54051378
ive used it 3 different times for an hour a piece
its annoying as shit. I cant change what I want to and the theming options are so fragmented it takes an autist to make it look good
>not using superior unity with rice
>>54050539
My story with KDE it's curious i began to use it around the 3.5 release, it's was great, and amarok was super efficient. I'll be honest it had some bloat but it was reasonable. Later began all the plasma thing, i first ried it with Ubuntu and the system fuck itself, later i use a more recent version under arch and worked quite well and used it for about a year, but it also become to bloated. And now with plasma 5 it works but all the menus are way too clutered with too many options and useless depndecies, and that's not my thing, some people like that, i guess.
>>54051880
give it another shot when mir comes out.
>>54053147
Will be buggy piece of shit for like a year. Cannonical are retarded for even starting Mir
>>54051941
My problem with plasma is more of its appearance in general. Seems like it's made out of cheap plastic, and lots of the icons are super inconsistent with their resolution and overall size. Taskbar entries are smaller than launchers, and a lot of the time system tray icons are really low res but scaled up so it looks bad.
>>54044135
i don't know. why would you?
>>54051880
>numix-circle
How did you fix the bluetooth icon?
Mine looks like this.
>>54053801
disable bluetooth in the bios
>>54042624
This.
>>54046419
Also this:
>Tech illiterates who uses Linux.
/thread
>>54042582
Gnome is just unpleasant in every way to me. Barely customizable, shitty task switching, stupid touch-centric design, it has everything I don't want and none of what I want, I can't imagine using it on anything besides a tablet.
>>54050519
everything else > shit > mate > kde > gnome
MATE, KDE and GNOME are the trifecta of shit, MATE being the least shit of the three but still shit.
is there a way to get gnome installed without all the bloat pre-installed. When I install Xubuntu I use install xubuntu-core^ and it comes with only packages needed to run the environment. Is there a gnome equivalent to this?
>>54042582
me
:^)
>>54056068
With extensions it feels more easily customizable and featureful than any of the other DEs.
>>54056125
which type of packages do you consider to be bloat? all the gnome-branded stuff like gnome-terminal and totem and all that?
>>54056136
holy crap dude can you say clutter
>>54056149
clutter :^)
I don't know why but I really enjoy having a cluttered top bar
>>54056172
You're not the first GNOME user I've seen who does. Although idk, maybe the other guy was you.
>>54056204
nah. Probably not me. I only posted that one screenshot. Didn't know that people also liked clutter on their top bar though.
>>54056253
*and the comment about how I like clutter
>>54042582
I have Gnome on my Linux dual-boot. I used it for everything but gaming for the last three months or so.
Gnome looks very nice. The only thing I didn't like was the weird shit around things like Bluetooth. You have to have some Gnome-compatible Bluetooth stack, but this other Bluetooth stack has support for what I want.
It's this kind of stuff that keeps Linux from ever being a realistic desktop OS option. I don't want to spend all day getting my Bluetooth keyboard to work, I just want to get some work done.
>>54056012
looks like fucking fisher price
>>54056352
because the panel is already perfect
gnome extensions are all thats needed to make it 110% functional
>>54051286
>complains he can't customize panel and other shit in KDE
>praises Gnomecrap
literally braindead
>>54056379
>he says as he posts a second time to correct a spelling error
I unironically use Gnome 3, I don't really have any big issues with it except the fact that GTK File Picker sucks fucking dicks and needs to get fixed.
I also prefer how OS X uses workspaces. Each screen has their own set of workspaces that can be individually used, unlike Gnome's way of handing it where you have either workspaces on the primary screen, or have each screen's workspace change depending on which workspace you are on the primary display. It's actually really retarded, however I doubt any other DE or WM has any better solution to it.
The main reason to use Gnome is simply because it has the best themes. The other DEs like KDE or Cinnamon has fucking shit themes that are either dark-as-my-soul black and red crap or some other unaesthetic shit colors and shit looking "early 2000 winamp skin" styles.
>>54056371
>because the panel is already perfect
Like I said fucked in the brain
>gnome extensions are all thats needed
OS where you have to need to visit a clickbait website to make it even usable, breaks its own extensions every few weeks with so called updates that make the OS even less functional and customizable
Literally worse than windows and anything else that was used on the desktop ever
>>54056443
>clickbait website
>breaks its own extensions every few weeks
you're the most braindead person I've ever talked to on /g/. Gnome is great and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>54056379
Looks like this guy never heard of extensions. More functional and better looking than KDE. KDE you can get some nice functionality but you're brain dead if you think KDE looks nice doing it.
KDE/unity/gnome = computer illiterate
lxde = small/low end devices
xfce = garbage
cinnamon = what you end up with after going through the above
>>54042582
+1 here
it really needs some addons to be good, but once you have them it's the best one out there.
nice keyboard control too
>>54042624
please elaborate
>>54045068
pros/cons vs gnome in your experience?
>>54056550
you're forgetting the millions of illiterates who use cinnamon because it comes with Mint
>>54056573
>it really needs some addons to be good, but once you have them it's the best one out there.
>nice keyboard control too
Yeah, I feel like GNOME has a nice amount of keyboard and mouse control. I'm able to sit with my left hand on the keyboard and my right hand on the mouse, which is the same way I work in blender which is really convenient.
>>54042582
I'm using Cinnamon right now, which is Gtk and looks like Gnome2. Does that count?
Because I've secretly wanted my desktop to look like a chinkdroid tablet all along
I prefer Gnome to KDE (of the two big ones) but obviously it varies depending on the look you're going for.
>>54042582
Its called MATE now anon
LXDE Master race reporting in.
I've unironically used gnome 2 since 2008. Don't fix what ain't broke.
I like the way gnome acts and feels with my triple monitor setup and I don't turn to 4chan for validation on what DE I choose to use
>>54042582
I do.
But I plan to switch as soon as my new Thinkpad arrives.
>>54058341
Performance reasons? I use GNOME on my X200.
>>54042582
me, though I'm giving budgie a go right now, but if I understand right, it's really just a variant of gnome
Unless you've compiled Enlightenment 19, your opinion is not needed.
>>54058931
It's not, but it's easy to make that mistake. The authors wanted something based around GNOME without being based off of it.
>>54059026
Enlightenment's been kind of disappointing. It's lightweight but they went off the deep end with the eye candy and it seems really hard to rice.
>>54059037
Yeah, that's been the theme of it. Also, it's always been buggy. When I was doing web development on a single screen, I ended up using it by choice.
>>54059037
can't remember off the top of my head, but what's that enlightenment fork called that the bodhi guy uses?
>>54059102
moksha IIRC
>>54059026
so how is that not gnome?
>>54059419
That is GNOME. With Terminology in the dash.
>>54059515
i think im confused about enlightenments relationship with gnome
>>54059530
There is no relationship. The picture is unrelated to the post other than having terminology in it.
>>54059546
oh, gotcha
what do you actually think of enlightenment? im DE hopping right now
me, b-but only on my Trisquel installation
>>54059554
It's nice enough if you have some sane defaults to start with like the ones Bodhi uses/used, but the UI of the settings is such a mess I've never been able to figure out how to rice it. I'm actually doing some DE hopping of my own right now. If you haven't ever tried Enlightenment before then it's worth a shot.
I'm irritated by the fact that GNOME 3.20 broke a bunch of themes and extensions, but otherwise, I like it.
Ricers who enjoy fixing their rice every release and idiots who like to waste half their screen on tablet mode padding
>"I never needed more than 80 columns and 24 lines anyways."
>"It's easier for me to click on because I am literally autistic and have zero motor skills."
>>54059588
word. my two favorites are gnome and mate; mate doesnt take the cake because compton is only good at being low on resources and marco is useless without it.
compiz is garbage
You know, I'm actually on KDE myself. I know this desktop environment is supposed to be better but you know what they say. Old habits they die hard.
>>54059610
Well what do you use?
>>54059629
>GNOME is supposed to be better
>>54059629
Is this actually how you feel, or are you just quoting Mr Robot for shits and giggles?
>>54059646
I don't use any linux DE because they're all either severely buggy (KDE, gnome forks) or non-functional trash without the same level of effort you put into a riced WM setup (i prefer openbox or xmonad), but I am perfectly happy using default OS X or near-default windows 10. The difference is night and day.
Linux has no truly good OOTB experience unless your standards are insanely low. "I only 4chan and IRC" low.
>>54059688
I like neither. So, yeah.
>>54059805
For the most part, Linux DEs are based on each person's opinion habits and needs. Like I said, aside from GNOME 3.20 breaking stuff, I like it a lot.
And I use Arch Linux, which doesn't really have OOTB in general.
>>54059805
GNOME isn't great OOTB, but it's usable, and extensions make it pretty dang solid without spending anywhere near the amount of time as you would on a WM.
If it's one thing, it's complete; I'm using it now after years of ricing with multiple mismatched solutions.
I might go back to another Debian netinst without selecting a DE for the fun of building up instead of tearing down. However, recently, I was legitimately curious at the time if GNOMEv3 was as terribad as originally tested/tried, when it took over.
Much better, I think.
>>54056356
Heh, not really.
Me installing KDE 7 years ago?
That was some fucking Fisher Price. It showed me free software could conjure demons. Worse than XP.
i like gnome, but it is too popular, it is bad now
any other recommendations?
>>54042582
>Who here unironically uses Gnome?
Well, I ironically DON'T use Gnome. Is that close enough?
>>54060802
I'd count it. Welcome to the thread, anon.
>>54042582
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>>54042582
I dont like any DE.
Currently I use gnome because it worked best with the shitty nouveau drivers after someone FUCKED UP MY NVIDIA DRIVERS FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING FUCKS
before I used cinnamon, but program management in the start menu is ugly as fuck
lxde is nice if I want to pretent to live in the 1990's.
>>54042582
I do because it's the default on Fedora and I don't care enough to change it.
>>54063007
If your drivers are screwed up that bad why haven't you reinstalled?
>>54063073
But you're running an outdated version of it - 3.20 has lots of optimizations and features.
Why doesn't /g/ write a non-bloat desktop environment?
>>54063177
I'm quite happy with KDE and Gnome.
>>54063114
I did about a half dozen times. I updated in december and every couple of weeks I try to go back to nvidia, leading to everything breaking.
Then I reinstall, try from clean, nope,
reinstall again and go back to nouveau.
The time before last the installer told me that my graphics card was incompatible with the drivers, the same ones I had been using for a year before. I tried again a few days ago and it installed on a throwaway harddrive, Im out of bandwith for this month so next month I am going to do install again on my real harddrive.
>>54063252
Are you just downloading the installer from nvidia's website?
>>54063369
No, I get it from the official repo.
I have tried the official installer but it bitched about nonstop dependencies.
I tried down loading the november version from the official repo, but it needed to be installed with the november dependancies.. after downloading and compiling those I had to find the old kernel.. after finding the old kernal I had to get the old headers, after getting the old headers some more shit didnt work. got pissed off and went back to nouvea.
nouveau sucks so bad that youtube wont even play without lagging to shit in small mode. in fullscreen the computer just locks up.
I went back to vista and had been there for the last two months.. Im talking bloat laggy to shit vista, and that was actually better than nouveaus bullshit.
I know there are typos, just ignore them.
>>54063369
>>54063466
meant to say the official installer from nvidia website.
>>54063466
What nvidia card do you have? And which distro are you on?
>>54063490
arch, yea I know I deserve what I got.
and some ancient integrated shit from 2008. It has hdmi, Im happy. (GeForce 7100 / nForce 630i)
Ive checked and the card is supported by the 304xx drivers, and it seems to be working again.
KDE has more touchpad gestures
