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Previous Thread:
>>53988566
HE400S > HD600
>>54009060
I just bought my pair of Bose QC 25 today after trying my friend's for a couple of weeks. Expensive as fuck, but then again music is my (only) hobby, so...
Budget: £70 // $100
Location: United Kingdom
Source: My computer
Preferred type of headphone: full-sized
Open or closed: Closed
Comfort level: Average
Thanks in advance!
Good evening /hpg/ what are you guys up to? Listening to anything cool?
Currently looking for a bunch of /vr/ tier game music to mention as examples on my paper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Q0s95SRXM
>>54009220
MDR V6/MDR7506 or M40X perhaps?
>Budget
10-20 but I'm not really flexible past that
>Location
My location is home
>Source
My N3DS
>Preferred type of headphone
open
>Comfort level
really comfortable
>Preferred tonal balance
really balanced
>Preferred music
I listen to all of them
>Past headphones
Apple earphones
>>54009220
logitech game zero
solid, comfy, everything you're looking for
probably overbudget now but idk
just get a proper set of speakers nerds
>>54009086
these 440i's mad comfy senpai
>>54009475
Sure if you like artificial V sound.
Is a tidal 20$ hifi subscription actually worth it? Is there an audible difference compared to spotify's 320mp3?
>>54009086
>he couldn't afford to buy the HE400i
>>54009425
Just kill yourself, you shitposting butthurt fucktard.
>>54009606
Why would you buy an inferior headphone?
>>54009506
>artificial V sound
care to back that up with data?
>>54009425
I'm a night owl and the walls of my apartment are too thin to get speakers. Maybe if you moved out of your mom's house you'd learn not everyone is blessed to live in a soundproof basement like you.
>>54009669
are you that Zeos impersonator that said that the 400s had more bass than the 400i last thread
instead of just constantly babbling on how the 400s is the superior model compared to the 400i why not back it up with data to prove your point?
>>54009700
he's probably butthurt that people ripped his argument apart and is now making it his personal mission to get people to buy the 400s over the 400i
Hey /g/ is this a good deal? they are $200 on massdrop right now.
If anyone has used these can you tell me how comfy they are for long sessions?
pic related- AKG K7XX Red Edition
>>54009578
Qobuz is superior to Tidal. And yes, it's more than worth it.
>>54009796
>Qobuz is superior
mind elaborating?
>>54009700
>>54009730
The 400i's have a v shaped signature and the 400S' are more natural and in line with the HD600. Go look at the FR charts. I've heard both and there's not a huge difference and certainly not one worth 200 dollars. But what I can say is that the 400i's were much more V shaped and artificial.
>>54009771
Yes its a great deal
>>54009845
Wider selection of less know artists, 24 bit 192KHz streaming, not throwing money at Jay Z's face.
Qobuz is more aimed towards audiophiles and the older generation.
>>54009851
>natural
>hd600
stop this meme
>>54009851
So you're telling me that they are not objectively V-shaped and that your ears are made of plastic, thanks for clarifying how untrustworthy your word for headphones are.
Also you must be blind if you say the 400i's frequency response is "v-shaped", either that or you get your measurements off someone who has no idea how to measure headphones. both the 400i and the 400s share a near identical frequency response, and the only difference is that the 400s has a rolled off bass. And yes while a pad change can remedy this, it still won't improve the rolled off bass by a huge margin like some folks say.
>>54009939
>Maroon 5
>Sennheiser
shit taste in fucking everything
>>54009930
What's a natural headphone?
>>54009956
It's probably a troll, look at that template...
>>54009956
whats wrong with hd600,just a new meme thing to hate it because the cool kids said so or what?
>>54009060
Continued:
>Speaker and Headphone Guides:
https://www.reddit.com/r/zeos
>Reviews:
https://www.youtube.com/user/ZeosReviews
https://www.youtube.com/user/InnerFidelity
https://www.youtube.com/user/dalethorn2/videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/hifiguy528/
>Communities
https://www.reddit.com/r/zreviews
https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones
>>54009946
>paying $200 for niggerbass
Ok buddy
>>54010039
Zeos is a fucking moron and does not deserve to have his name attached to anything related to audophile gear
>>54009959
SHP9500
>>54010036
Don't mind him. HD600s are perfectly fine.
>>54009959
I would say the Pioneer SA1000s
Waiting on some new headphones, old ones are busted. Should be here in a week or so. Everything is so miserable without headphones
>>54010039
Since when /hpg/ links reddit and suggests subjective review? Hell, we used to have out own headphone guides, these are sad times...
>>54010058
If you keep saying that i will stop making videos, now you won't know about the next giant killers i'm about to release.
>>54009916
Thanks anon, did some more investigating and they definitely have more music that's my taste
>>54010058
>I got called out and now instead of refuting it with additional data to prove him wrong, I'll just degrade myself to namecalling and other such things
why do you do this to yourself
>>54010058
>Zeos is a fucking moron
fuck.
>>54010036
It's not the AKG DT880 or the AKG 702 depending on which camp you identify with.
>>54010089
Yeah feels bad man. I'm waiting on the T50RP MK3s to arrive. I want to get rid of these HE400i so bad right now.
>Budget
1000 I guess
>Type
Open, Over ear
Mainly listen to 60's 70s rock krautrock acoustic classical jazz female vocals. Want something very natural with smooth mids and airy highs. Bass is whatever
>>54010122
>he fell for the planar magnetic meme
>>54010118
Listen to z, just get the K7xx as they're better than the K702
>>54010132
Holy shit it's an actual audiophile
get out of this thread while you can, you want to get recommendations from head-fi
>>54010100
Glad I could be of help. Happy listening, Anon.
>>54010077
do you have a good recomendation for a dac to the hd600 with my o2 btw?
>>54010132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb8LTTh9iMk
LCD-2
>>54010122
hard to tell if you want to get rid of them because you hate them or because you're actually that zeos impersonator who got his ass ripped apart last thread and he can't look at 400i's the same way again
>>54010169
Because i hate them and the t50rp i tried at my friends house sounds better in everyway.
I'm undecided here.
AD1000x or HD600s... After seeing a couple of reviews i'm leaning towards the AD1000x but reddit keeps recommending me the HD600s so i don't know what to get.
>>54010157
ODAC perhapds?
>>54010208
almost no one that doesnt live in asia has tried ad1000x
>>54010215
>>54010157
Just get the Micca Origen.
>>54010164
How do they compare to the LCD3 and LCDX?
>>54010155
I always thought headfi was a bunch of fucks
>>54010239
Is it because most westerners are poor?
>>54010247
The LCD X are just superior to the LCD 2 but then again you only have 1000 dollars. Watch Zeos' review of the LCD Xs.
>>54010208
Always wanted to test the AD1000X, everyone says they sound very different from the AD900X.
>>54010215
>Micca Origen.
y well i only bought the amp so not sure if u should buy the jbs seprate dac now or something else?
>>54010157
ODAC. Haven't heard the Micca Origen, so I can't comment on that pairing.
>>54010144
He never listened to the 702
>>54009946
400i have less slam in the bass than modded 400s. You just haven't listened to both. Stop reading useless graphs. You don't SEE sound, you HEAR it.
>>54010247
instead of wasting half an hour watching some guy spend literally a quarter of the video collectively saying "umm" "uhh" and pausing, why not do the sensible thing and take that time to read through multiple reviews at places like Head Fi to get a wide critique on a single pair of headphones.
>>54010260
no, we have more money on average. ADx series is weeb shit.
>>54010273
I currently have a Schiit stack. Would that be sufficient for LCD2s? Are high end DACS and amps placebo?
>>54010296
>recommending Head Fi reviews
next you will recommend Redit reviews.
>>54010310
>saying that when reddit religiously goes to Z Reviews to validate their opinions
>>54010310
>Implying >>54010039
>>54010306
Yes. Schiit stack all the way baby. Dacs are placebo. I saw some idiot recently buy an expensive Schiit R2R dac and say he got worse sound. If you want a tube amp then you aren't looking for a true representation.
>>54010304
Indeed, better get some classy ATH like the W and L series.
>>54009060
Am I audiophile yet?
>>54010335
AD2000X have the most incredible highs, you can always change the pads to get more bass.
>>54010077
they are trash fuck off shill
>>54010294
again with this "you hear it" crap
also you're comparing a modded 400s to a stock headphone. If I applied the same mod to the 400i what then will you say to prove once and for all that the 400s is the superior model?
Also, someone from an earlier thread already provided data that shows that despite the mods, the 400s STILL has rolled off bass. So I really have no idea where you get the idea that the 400s has a slam to it.
>>54010333
Is UCA202 vs Modi placebo?
>>54010343
ad2000x didnt even make tyll's wall of fame.
>>54010339
Yes you are. If you are spending more than 100 dollars on headphones then you are an audiophool.
>>54010352
X2 was on his wall of fame
>>54010349
To an extent.
>>54010352
Is tyll the guy who claimed to get better sound stage from a better dac? That old coot can't hear past 5khz.
>>54010339
> DT770
> not DT880
>>54010378
Payola.
>>54010378
Zeos is right again!
>zeos is a fat buffoon
>tyll is a deaf old man
>most of /g/ is too poor to afford anything good
>headfi is too delusional to take seriously
Who can we trust?
>>54010310
what's better to you:
have ONE guy review a pair of headphones, while spending half of his 20-30 videos flubbing his lines, saying "Umm" and "Uhh" and pausing which makes his videos even longer than they need to be.
read through MULTIPLE people's reviews on a pair of headphones, reading, not watching. Often times the reviews are superfluous but at least they detail everything out and the benefits of it being something to read is the fact you can easily skip past the fluff to read the stuff you want to know about
>>54010407
your ears, by going to physical locations to audition headphones yourself to form your own fucking opinion
>>54010407
yourself.
>>54010407
>headfi is too delusional to take seriously
I was about to ask. Is headfi placebo land?
> Hey guys I just upgraded my little dot to a magni 2 and now my headphones are full of life again. That bass and warmth really come out!
Meanwhile there's someone saying they upgraded from a fiio to a tube amp and saying the exact same thing
>>54010408
Didn't read
>>54010407
Just watch Metal571's reviews on Youtube. dalethorn2 has a huge database of sound reviews which are very accurate.
>>54010408
Warning: There is one guy, speakerfag, who believes everything about audio comes down to frequency response. In other words, personal experience, even your own, doesn't mean anything to him.
>>54010439
>he only looks at graphs
how retarded can you be?
>>54010433
IT's a combination of a few things
>have to justify the exorbitant money they spent
>they want to "get it" so they fit in
>the'yre getting more used to the gear / headphones over time
>>54010459
It helps, and when there's no way to audition because you live in the middle of fucking nowhere who will you trust?
>>54010428
>going to physical locations to audition headphones
And when there's nothing close to you?
>>54010491
Zeos.
>>54010346
>Stop liking what I don't like!
Yeah, same shit as in every /hpg/.
>>54010506
You shitpost on /hpg/ about the poor decision you've made.
>>54010516
Stop
>>54010343
Thinking about ordering W5000 pads for my W1000x. Stock pads are literally trash on these.
>>54009771
It's a great deal in my honest opinion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TCRlKktr_4
>>54010506
Not the Anon you are talking to, but when i can't test a headphone i check measurements of headphones i have tested in the past and compare them to the headphones i'm curious about to have a general idea of the fr, i also read reviews from several sources, specially when i've notice that a reviewer has had the same impressions i had of headphones i've already tested.
It's not as good as both, reading the measurements and testing for yourself, but it works most of the time.
>>54010695
Zeos does the same, saves me a lot of time and money.
>>54010721
>time
>his reviews are half an hour long
I could have read up like 7 other reviews by the time Zeos finished talking
>>54010721
>does the same
Does your impressions of headphones you have tested before fit his impressions? Because otherwise that makes no sense.
>>54010743
Congratulations, you have a 3 grade reading level.
>>54010763
I'm talking about reviews that really goes in depth
what do you read, reviews that just has 3 sentences?
>>54010771
>read
I don't.
>>54010763
>>54010809
hypocrites are common in /hpg/ as usual
Just throwing this in for folks thinking about Audio Technica MSR7s because they are relatively new and I've had them a year now.
I'm no audiophile, so forgive me but here's my .02.
>Build Quality
All touch surfaces are metal/leather with plastic hinges that after one year have begun to get a bit squeaky, the pads are the perfect level of cushion and don't cause sweating or overheating like an ATHM-50 or AE2 (My points of reference that I've owned over 3 years each), removable cable, comes with three of varying lengths. They aren't too heavy, although they're purely desk bound for me, and don't hang well on the neck, so definitely not a daily driver unless you intend to wear them on your head for the duration. A bit clamp like at first, but they wear in well after a few weeks, definitely takes some time however. Headband is soft but not overly padded, may bit a bit thin for some high test alpha audiophiles out there.
>Audio Quality
The highs, dear lord the highs. These have been called bright, but goddamn, I love the precision. I listen to a lot of Jazz, IDM, Acoustic, Electro, old synth heavy stuff, some J-Beat, and it is perfect. Never have big synth riffs sounded so full, warm or so clear, drums register clearly as percussive and impactful but never overbearing. Bass is subtle and not overdone like many similar models but still quite loud. Wonderful sound stage. Isolation is reasonable, but I can hear the clacking of my MX blues at reasonable volume.
They look great, they sound accurate, a bit bright, but that's my preference, are comfortable but take a bit of time to wear in. Definitely a good buy for the price (I got mine on sale at $200, but they retail closer to $230), I have never been left wanting for anything more even when listening through more expensive set-ups. Seems to be the heaviest hitter in this range.
I'm looking for a good pair of IE Earbuds around $100 for running that are loud, isolate well and have a reasonable punch bass-wise. Comfort and tight fit are an absolute priority as I'm a distance person, not at all interested in wireless
Cheers
>>54010841
>I'm no audiophile
Stopped reading there. I can just read the graphs, if i wanted impressions i'd watch zeos' review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itwDQeZ_8Pg.
Now stop posting subjective impressions. If you aren't going to measure, don't post.
>>54010841
>subjective review
I set a space for you in my trash can.
>>54010862
Sennheiser Momentum In Ear, Shure SE215 or RHA MA750 if you can find another Jackson.
>>54010862
RHA MA750s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAKsho4s8t8
>>54010841
I love it when retards say it's a good value when they don't own anything else to compare it to.
>>54010763
I want a combined DAC/amp with a big, comfy top-mounted volume pot. What are my options?
>>54009060
Hello, i don't know where to ask about soundstands so i post it here...
What is a good soundstand for 250 / 300 € ?
How it compares with an old audio amplifier ?
>>54010944
Micca Origen. It's one of Z's top recommended dac and amp. It has a big comfy knob on top. You can also get the JDSLabs Element but JDSLabs makes shitty stuff.
>>54010961
>It's one of Z's top recommended dac and amp.
Are you talking about this guy? I'm not filled with confidence, frankly. Still, the unit seems nice, I'll look into it.
>>54011107
Who cares about spidf, it's not audiophile quality audio.
>>54010948
You're paying for the convenience and the space savings. Also the price will likely be lower.
A decent receiver + 2 good speakers + a subwoofer will blow any sound base or sound bar out of the water. But it's bigger equipment, you'll be paying 2 or 3 times as much, and a lot of average people don't want to fuck with the setup of a receiver.
>>54011107
that was the older version he was reviewing.
https://youtu.be/yxoU-oA6Z_c?t=123
no spdif in.
>>54009771
>Not getting the K7XX masterrace
Meming aside I honestly love mine. I own the regular lack version along with M50x and HD598s and while the 598s are comfier and M50x are portable these get the most use from me
Looking to get a headphone purely for the soundstage. Which 'phones have good soundstage? Currently looking at Grados and X2s.
>>54011413
X2s and T50RP Mk.3
>>54011444
>semi open
Explain, senpai.
>>54011461
Compared to the X2s, my SHP9500 and SA1000s have a lot more sound stage.
>>54009771
they're pretty good. I think the HD600s sound better, and can be found for slightly more, but still a great deal.
>>54011930
Stop shilling that fucking garbage you shitposter
>>54011979
aren't you angry. Just come into this thread and already some autist is yelling at me.
are the HD600 the new ATH-M50s?
>Popularized by audiophiles
>Recommended by plebeians
>Nothing exceptional about them
>Over priced and bested by cheaper headphones.
>>54009851
>400i
>v-shaped
Oh no you didn't you motherfucker. 400i's have extended sub bass you stupid fuck. They are not nigger bass at all you fucking asshole.
>Budget
Under $300, preferably.
>Location
New York.
>Source
Auxiliary through a Vive.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over the ear, nothing else, please!
>Open or closed
Closed, looking for noise cancelling headphones.
>Comfort level
The comfier, the better. Even if it sacrifices actual sound quality. I'm not an audiophile.
>Preferred music
I mean, this is gonna be used for entertainment, not music. I suppose something with good bass would be nice?
Basically I just want something that will help the immersion with my Vive. I've never been a big fan of in-ears even though they'd probably be better overall but whatever. Any ideas?
>>54012202
ATH-M50s have extended bass asshole and they're considered nigger boxes
>>54012202
while you're not wrong, the only thing your post is going to accomplish is give the guy fuel to shitpost even further, so just end the conversation here
>>54012164
Ah $100 the M50x is right where it should be. Haven't tried the 600s though
>>54012216
Hifiman HE-400S
Tyll says they're better than the HD600 and with pads the 400S beat the more expensive 400i. You can't lose.
>>54012247
>and with pads the 400S beat the more expensive 400i
you must be really upset huh
>>54012265
>>54009730
>making it his personal mission to get people to buy the 400s over the 400i
>>54012216
Meze 99 Classics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEid0p0Vgwo
>>54012247
>>Open or closed
>Closed
>Get these open headphones
????????????
>>54012216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45dU4WnD_LA
Sony MDR-1A
>>54012164
No.
the 600s are amazing, and you can usually find them for a good price (250-350 USD)
clear, well balanced, can be driven by even integrated audio (not recommended)
>>54012376
Stop shilling you dick wad.
>>54012216
T50RP Mk.iii is all you need.
>>54012383
I'm not shilling.
they're excellent headphones that tend to be well priced. I'm sorry that your autism makes you upset that they're not your prefered headphone.
>>54012421
Why are you shilling zeos garbage. Stop it.
>>54012437
just fuck off, I'm a complete different person than who ever you seem to be butt frustrated at.
Will this frequency range be a problem?
>>54012527
Yes, even the cheapest headphones go from 20hz to 20kHz. This is why you should never buy Shures.
>>54012527
Yes. Etymotic's go to 15khz, avoid at all cost.
Shitposting is quite intense tonight...
>>54012832
Can't tell the difference, seems like regular /hpg/ to me.
>>54012225
M50Xs 300Hz square wave goes up. 400i does not. Or maybe I'm wrong and everything Tyll measures is incorrect and M50/400i has both the same bass.
>>54013080
>he listens to graphs
>square waves matter
lovely.
>>54013080
Why do people shitpost graphs as proof so much. I've had it /hpg/ i'm leaving. You guys clearly don't know how to read or use graphs.
>>54013080
>>54009344
Listening to 2catchy4me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phDuvBk_9ok
>>54013108
>he doesn't know how time<->frequency relationships work
lovely.
>>54013532
Is this the faggot that keeps posting shitty measurements?
>>54013574
>he doesn't know that music doesn't sound square.
>>54013574
>>54013080
No one can be this stupid. I am genuinely intrigued.
>>54013584
I know you're trolling me at this point but I'm gonna go on a small rant.
Pisses me off when people tell electrical engineers how sound works. As if having ears qualifies you to perfectly understand all frequencies from 10-20000 Hz.
SHP9500 A.K.A. HD600 killers are back to 60 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826138190
>>54013609
you wasted your life listening to graphs.
>>54013609
I know you're trolling me at this point but I'm gonna go on a small rant.
Pisses me off when people tell audiophiles how sound works. As if having a oscilloscope qualifies you to perfectly understand all frequencies from 10-20000 Hz.
>>54013639
>identifying as an audiophile
>>54013649
>Identifying as an electrical engineer.
>>54013639
>>54013621
>>54013598
I'm going to humor this for just one second because I have actual work to do.
So a square wave in time actually comes out to be a sum of sinusoids in the frequency domain.
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FourierSeriesSquareWave.html
By using the square wave test signal in time you are actually testing the ability of your audio circuit and speakers to recreate multiple frequencies, certainly some distortion is allowable but some constructions will definitely have more distortion than others. This is a measure of quality.
By god if you all are trolling me you got me.
>>54013147
See you tomorrow
>Budget
About $100 USD, but willing to go slightly over if it's worth it
>Location
USA
>Source
iPhone 6s
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Pretty dang comfortable (but willing to sacrifice a little bit, if it's worth it)
>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy (but not muddy)
>Preferred music
Mostly all kinds of rock and some electronica
>Past headphones
Sennheiser HD598 (comfortable and great sound, but I want bass when it comes to IEM's
Thoughts on the HD439?
>>54013704
Also, muh soundstage
>>54013704
IM50/IM70
>>54013717
The greatest of headfi memes
>>54013704
>bass
>iem
come on now anon
btw you're going to have to spend much more than 100 for 'bassy' IEMs
>>54013692
Human ears can't even hear those low levels of distortion. It's like circle jerking to Intel bench marks, sure your CPU can excel at niche tasks but at the end of the day all you're going to do with that PC is shitpost on 4chan about how great your cinabench scores are.
>>54013728
piston 2 are well below 100, even piston 3 are bassy
>>54013751
Garbage. Zeos thinks they're the worst.
>>54013728
What the fuck are you on? Sub 100 is full of boomy, bassy IEMs.
>>54013759
Fuck off.
>>54013759
>zeos
opinion discarded, off reddit with your shitposting
What are some poorman's equivalent headphones for some of the popular ones?
>>54013704
>IEM
>Bass (but not muddy)
RHA MA750
>>54013770
But the bass is not rich and textural.
>>54013777
Takstar HI2050
>>54013745
I'm not the same guy who posted the graphs earlier. I'm simply stating at this point that the ability to accept as input a test square wave and recreate it with minimal distortion is a measure of quality for an audio circuit (or any amplifier circuit). Whether you can hear the difference or not I don't really care.
>>54013787
yes those traits are definitely related to the cost of the iem
>>54013777
SHP9500 are the poor man's equivalent to the HD600
T50RP Mk.3 are the poor man's equivalent to the MR. Speakers Ether C
>>54013803
>SHP9500 are the poor man's equivalent to the HD600
how the fuck can this be the case when the SHP9500 are literally nobass Beyers
>>54013799
None of the items I've listened to under 100 have had enough slam and energy in the bass. Probably due to the ringing and prolonged decay.
>>54013826
nobody cares about your uninformed and shitty opinions.
>Probably due to the ringing and prolonged decay.
"let me just state things i don't understand at all as some sort of justification for my shitty opinions, i hope nobody calls me out on this"
>>54013777
The Pioneer SE-A1000 sound better than the K7xx
>>54013795
If it doesn't matter then why do nerds post square waves? People should listen before they post IMO.
>>54013872
>trying to sway opinions into making this a head-fi tier shithole where subjective opinions "matter"
fuck off.
Reminder that all of you are entitled 12 year olds and are the worst board. inb4 poorfag you faggots justify 300 dollar shit tier headphones because they sound better FUCK OFF!
>>54013872
Maybe at the magnitudes posted here it doesn't matter but I guarantee you if you get enough distortion its going to sound like shit. Again, a low distortion circuit is a sign of a higher quality amplifier. Frequency sweeps yield better information in my opinion
Listening to classical, $500.
>>54014027
reminder if you dont listen to classical youre an uneducated peasant who will always be happy with the new kanye album
>>54014027
>>54014048
>listening to classical
>>54014027
I guess you want ATH-AD900x for an answer, but I will respond with HD598.
>>54014074
Noted, now what headphones do you recommend?
Only listen to AVGN videos, $500.
>>54014084
Good call, I'm actually listening with the HD598 right now. How does the AD900x compare?
>>54013779
How are these when it comes to sound isolation? I'm looking for a "fun" sounding set of headphones to take on a long trip.
>>54009096
>Bose
>>54014074
>listening to contemporary anything
>>54014103
I guess you want DT880 for an answer, but I will respond with German Maestro Gmp 400.
>>54014139
>tumblr
>>54014115
Actually, I dunno.
I heard it specializes in classical.
>>54014147
Thanks, I'll pick the German Mastro Gmp 400
>>54014174
Zeos loves it, you won't regret.
>>54014116
Isolation is pretty good. Not as good as Shures but pretty good. Especially with foamies.
>>54014211
Shures are boriiing. Just watch zeos 1540 review to know what I'm talking about.
I was going through amazon's daily flash sales to see what was going on sale today. I found these and then saw the reviews.
>http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00O66G4CM/ref=twister_B00OYQAA8I?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
>>54014245
Shure IEMs are the exact opposite of their full size line, retard.
>>54014512
report and ignore zeosposters.
>>54012363
do these leak sound out in a silent room?
>>54012216
>Auxiliary through a Vive.
>looking for noise cancelling headphones.
Why the fuck are you looking for closed noise cancelling headphones if you are hooking them up to a Vive?
>>54010347
post purchase rationalisation and probable autism is where
>>54015127
spot the poorfag
>>54010118
>AKG DT880
Nigger stop.
>>54010094
because instead of telling them all to fuck off people are engaging with the reddit autists
>>54010385
Same guy who uses audiophile memes to describe how something sounds.
>>54012247
stop posting here you autistic fucking basement dweller
>>54014165
>I heard it specializes in classical.
Nigga you what
That is the problem with audio recommendations. "Specialises in classical" means fucking nothing because it doesn't even tell you what the listener prefers to hear in their classical music.
Keep it to things that actually matter when recommending headphones like "emphasis on 2-4khz" or "can't reproduce frequencies below 60hz without severe distortion".
>>54014027
Read the OP and post what you actually want, not just a price.
>>54015136
Really?
Did you not read the posts I quoted or are that bad at trolling?
>>54015239
>"can't reproduce frequencies below 60hz without severe distortion".
ah yes the AKG house sound
>>54015239
Nothing in that post was stating a fact. You could've just ignored it.
>>54015301
...or Grado for that matter. some people like thick distorted bass like they're listening through a tube amp.
>>54015411
any 'decent', even OTL tube amp isn't going to put out nearly that level of distortion. the valhalla 2 is rated at <0.02% and schiit are known to understate the performance of their products (just look at the rated specs of the yggdrasil vs measurements)
>>54015261
>>54015127
there's no more point in arguing against you when the only thing you'll do now is just namecall and ad hominem
you won't even try to prove me wrong by actually talking about the main point. The fact that you've degraded this far down just proves to me that you have nothing left to say in your defense.
Your entire case rested on modded headphones, mine were centered around stock headphones that doesn't even require modifications. I think that's enough. You can mod pretty much any headphone to be better. But apparently you think the 400s is the only headphone capable of modifications, which somehow justifies comparing it to stock headphones.
Don't you see the flaw in your argument? I could very well do the same thing and say the 400i sounds even better with certain pads and mods and that'd trump anything you got to say about the 400s, but I decided not to. That's because the argument was if the 400s was better than the 400i and every point made has proven that the 400s is not, and not even the pads help make it better than the 400i.
>>54015487
>try to prove me wrong
Not the same anon but you're doing it wrong.
>>54015487
Nigga you dun fucked up.
I was calling him the autist, not you. I'm not even the 400s memeposter, I was saying that "400s has better bass" despite all evidence to the contrary comes from post purchase rationalisation and autism, which is really the only interpretation of my post that makes any kind of vague sense.
Calm down, take a deep breath, and step away form the keyboard before you bust a puffoo valve.
>>54015429
or the output on their headphone amps that kills drivers and had to be recalled
talk about understated
>>54015550
do people still desperately grasp on something that happened years ago and never again? apparently people never learn their lessons, is that why you still shitpost to this day and don't grow up?
>>54015567
>he pointed out a flaw in my argument that schiit never fucks up their specs
>better call him a shitposter
You can admit the fact that you're talking out your arse now.
>>54015631
you pointed out something that has absolutely nothing to do with listed specs. who is talking out of their arse again? why don't you address what i actually said instead of shitposting?
>>54015542
I assumed your post was in regard to someone who bought the 400i, cause when someone says post purchase rationalization you'd assume it'd be in reference the more expensive product, which, if you were the 400s guy, would make it seem like another shitpost.
Sorry
>>54012376
>250-350 USD
>good
What?
>>54013610
Is /hpg/ the only place that shills this shit?
>>54015940
Only the shithead zeosposter.
>>54015637
>why don't you address what I actually said?
I did though.
Your assertion was that schiit's specs are always spot on, and that they in fact under rate their equipment.
I pointed out that they are known to completely fuck up their products to the point that it damages the end user's equipment in an irreperable and extreme fashion, contradicting your assertion directly.
You can meme me all you want, but you're the one who made the bullshit claim in the first place, how about you prove that their tube amps don't distort more than a solid state amp?
Burden of proof does lie with the claimant after all.
>>54015682
>you'd assume
I think that's where you went wrong. Kudos for having the backbone to admit your mistake and apologise. Especially on 4chan where the default response is to just start shitposting and hope the thread moves on.
>>54015960
>Your assertion was that schiit's specs are always spot on, and that they in fact under rate their equipment.
>I pointed out that they are known to completely fuck up their products to the point that it damages the end user's equipment in an irreperable and extreme fashion, contradicting your assertion directly.
these are completely separate issues that have nothing to do with each other you utter moron.
>how about you prove that their tube amps don't distort more than a solid state amp?
another thing that has nothing to do with what i said.
when will the logical fallacies end? when will your cognitive abilities surpass a toddler's?
>>54015949
I still think it's him. Even that autist last thread adding -Z to the end of every post.
>>54015973
>these are completely separate issues that have nothing to do with each other you utter moron.
Actually no. It proves that they are not only fallible, but that the quality assurance of their products can and does vary wildly.
>another thing that has nothing to do with what i said.
But it does. You said even a schiit tube amp doesn't distort that much. The ostensible point being that a tube amp would usually distort more than a solid state, but that a schiit amp will not, otherwise you would only have mentioned the specific amp you were talking about.
Please, continue the ad hominem last resort attacks. It entertains me while I dismantle every poorly thought out argument you post.
>>54016003
>Actually no. It proves that they are not only fallible, but that the quality assurance of their products can and does vary wildly.
i do implore you name a time this has been an issue since the asgard issue you're so desperately clinging to.
>But it does. You said even a schiit tube amp doesn't distort that much. The ostensible point being that a tube amp would usually distort more than a solid state, but that a schiit amp will not, otherwise you would only have mentioned the specific amp you were talking about.
please name a schiit amp that distorts to grado bass levels of distortion (~65%)
>Please, continue the ad hominem last resort attacks. It entertains me while I dismantle every poorly thought out argument you post.
i also implore you to learn what ad hominem is and that you stop trying to sound intelligent because i'm honestly embarrassed for you.
Waiting on Tyll's review before jumping these. So far, they seem pretty much perfect.
>>54016076
They're shit
>"people like grado bass because it's like tube amps"
>"not even tube amps distort that much, for example this otl amp from -brand- is rated at this distortion and they're generally known to understate the specs of their products, such as the yggdrasil"
>"HOW DARE YOU SAY THEY UNDERSTATE SPECS THEY ALMOST PERMANENTLY DAMAGED SOME HEADPHONES AND HAD TO RECALL PRODUCTS ONE TIME YEARS AGO THEREFOR THEIR QC AND QA ARE GARBAGE THEIR SPECS ARE ALL LIES"
>"that incident has nothing to do with the specs they list on their site"
>"ARE YOU SAYING TUBE AMPS HAVE LESS DISTORTION THAN SOLID STATE? YOU'RE RETARDED. THEIR PRODUCTS ARE SHIT BECAUSE OF THAT INCIDENT YEARS AGO"
What am I reading?
>>54016029
>i also implore you to learn what ad hominem
It's pretty clear by this point you have no idea what you're talking about if you think calling someone a moron and a retard is not an ad hominem attack rather than a real argument.
>>54016304
>losing this hard
pathetic
