Previously on: >>53987160
Welcome to /fg/lt/, or as I've recently taken to calling it, /fg+lt/. We are always open to users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are four ways to try GNU/Linux, you can:
0) Install a GNU/Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
1) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full GNU/Linux experience".
2) Dual-boot GNU/Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about GNU/Linux)
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with GNU/Linux
Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly GNU/Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe WINE can make up for it.
IRC connection details:
Server: chat.freenode.net:6667 (no SSL, 6697 for SSL) - Channel: #flt
If you don't have an IRC client (which you should), go to https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/flt.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
Your friendly neighborhood search engine (searx.me, ixquick, whatever)
https://wiki.archlinux.org/ (Most of the configurations and troubleshoots will work on various distros, including Debian)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux
https://prism-break.org/en/categories/gnu-linux/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
>>53999693
>still not /flt/
Fuck. How hard is it to do it right.
>>53999731
>How hard is it to do it right.
How hard is it to realize that Linux is just a kernel, which is never discussed here?
>>53999763
>never discussed
Well not true.
This thread was called /flt/ for months until a week ago when you started shitting it up.
>>53999778
>Well not true.
But it is, Anon: People talk about GNU/Linux distros, not the kernel alone. It would be wrong to tech them wrong things like that Linux is an OS, since we're a friendly thread.
>you started shitting
Implying Anonymous is just one guy.
Copy/pasted from other thread because fuck you
Quick question:
So I just recently set up an Arch install with full disk encryption using dm-crypt and LUKS. The only thing is, though, that whenever I boot, the system hangs and eventually times out, dropping me to a root shell. This isn't really that much of a problem as I can just manually unlock the encrypted partition, but it'd be nice to have it prompt me automatically. i've tried playing around with /etc/crypttab, fstab, and the grub default config to no avail. Any help?
>>53999612 (You)
>>53999625
Oh and when I set up arch I had to follow some guide I found on google that guided me through setting up the /boot and /boot/efi partitions for a clean UEFI system. I don't know if they're needed or not, but so far it seems to have worked better than the default guide.
This is the guide: [gist] arch-linux-install (embed)
I've tried playing around with the load order of lvm2 and encrypt in mkinitcpio.conf and that doesn't work either.
>>53999795
I knew it!
Anonymous is just one awesome autistic cyber savant with multiple personality disorder.
This chat room is just a merely a way for the many personas to talk to each other so the core conscious can reach a consensus. The tile Anonymous is not to hide identity, but that each persona is so small it lacks a declared identity of it's own.
Wait does that mean I am not real and I am just an insignificantly small part of a larger entity that is just using me as a tool?
No, I refuse to accept this!
I know I will give my self a name!
I will declare my superiority over the entities collective by naming myself, thus I will make myself real.
But it need to be a good name. Something the others will respect to assure my individuality is not taking.
...
I know I should ask the collective what name I should use to control them.
Yes, a Dictative Democracy ruled by me.
>mfw
>>53999937
silly me, forgot to quote >>53999925
What's the best way to search for duplicate images in a folder, including subdirectories?
Also, what's the best way to search for duplicate filenames, including subdirectories?
Hopefully with a GUI, so I can easily visually compare them and make the final call
>>53999950
Not a gui, but I recommend these two packages:
fdupes - for exact duplicates
findimagedupes - for visual duplicates (like you saved the same image with different quality/resolution, so you didn't trigger fdupes)
I guess you could also check for exact duplicates using a simple md5sum shell script.
>>53999950
>so I can easily visually compare
By the way, findimagedupes has an option to open an image viewer for visual comparing results.
Hope it helps.
I really like pfsense, but is there a way to run it on OpenBSD instead of FreeBSD?
>>53999990
>>53999972
thanks man
Found this great guide for using openvpn in a network namespace along with other applications.https://schnouki.net/posts/2014/12/12/openvpn-for-a-single-application-on-linux/
>>53999972
>I guess you could also check for exact duplicates using a simple md5sum shell script.
I like suckless things. Any shell wizard here who wants to write such a script?
How can I become a wizard, /fglt/ ?
>>54000433
Don't have sexual intercourse until you are 30.
>>54000448
Oh shit, too late. Is there a way to come back ?
>>54000433
Read this:
The Grymoire - home for UNIX wizards:
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/index.html
Is it true that every true /g/ent needs to install gentoo at least once before he is allowed to call himself a /g/entooman?
Anyone know why in the answer to this, https://faq.i3wm.org/question/83/how-to-run-i3lock-after-computer-inactivity.1.html
exec xautolock -time 15 -locker '~/.local/bin/fuzzy_lock.sh' &
Ends with an &? I've never seen an exec line in i3's config use that before. I assumed everything was forked.
On a semi related note why isn't the 'xautolock -notify' bell sound working, and can I make it respect html5 videos playing like it does mpv.
>>54000497
Sure, installing gentoo is good, using it is better !
>>54000497
tbqh familia, Gentoo isn't much harder than installing Arch. It's always the same steps.
- Read the wiki
- Install the distro
Personally, I don't even see the win in compiling everything, except paranoia about binaries.
On the other hand, to be a /g/entooman you have to install Gentoo. Deal with it.
>>54000497
LFS is okay as well. But following a guide once completely is something everyone here should do once. Not just for shitposting in gee but also to learn patience, concentration and using a search engine and wiki.
>>54000559
It's not about the compiling. It's about the customization you can do, which has the effect of requiring you to compile.
Does Xubuntu run good on dual cores?
I have 4GB RAM btw.
>>54000588
I see that, but why _everything_? Let's say, I want package X compiled without lib Y or embedded Z, then I just download the source and recompile said package. Why the whole distro?
>>53999693
what is he always doing on his computer anyways?
>>54000618
You can use bin packages if you want. I compile once and then distribute the binpkgs to my other systems. You can use binpkgs only for libs if you really want. But since this is not a common usecase for Gentoo users, these is not done by default. You can find the precompiled bins yourself if you really find this to be something you want.
How to capture audio output?
I know you can record screen with ffmpeg, is there similar command for audio?
>>54000645
Reading and writing email, organizing the fsf, planning speeches, making slides...
>>54000645
hacking
https://u.teknik.io/b71e9.webm
>>54000669
Pulseaudio or alsa directly?
>>54000612
Yes, I'm running it on a single core netbook with 1gb ram
>>54000693
Yes
>>54000586
There was some years ago, I've made an LFS, but it was stucked at boot with kernel panic because of some init process doesn't working really nicely. Does it count as I failed to installed LFS ? (I'm really lazy, when something gone wrong, I change everything...)
>>54000696
Oh yeah and more recently pic related, but can't really recommend that shit anymore. Not sure if any distro would make it acceptable for "normal" use.
>>54000677
Kek, is this real? I thought he only does Hungarian folk dancing.
Is there some way to make some hotkeys for mpv? Like play pause next prev?
>>54000693
I have both??
In audacity I seem to get alsa.
>>54000677
>mfw this clip was done in France, in my own town...
Can I upgrade from *buntu 15.04 to 16.04? Or should I get 15.10 before 16.04?
>>54000721
Yeah, in the cknfig file, there are already keybinds for it by default. Read about it on mpv.io
>>54000744
I meant remote hotkeys, like binding "mpc play" to a key for mpd. I like to use mpv as music player.
>>54000775
I guess that's only possible via the Lua api.
>>54000160
md5sum sort uniq a fucking hedge mage could pull that shit off
What linux should i install next?
I enjoy Debian and will reinstall but something change past few months?
>>53999900
>Any help?
You need an initrd that isn't shit. Try genkernel or dracut.
>>54000669
ffmpeg... Also arecord for alsa
>>54000901
Distrohopping is pointless after a few months. Just find out which package manager and release cycle you like best and you are pretty much set. Learn a bit about debian and how to properly use it and make your own packages before thinking about switching.
>>54000926
ffmpeg -grab alsa?
>>54000457
Yes, all you have to do is get off /g/ and never come back
>>54000979
Maybe it's the best idea I've ever heard on this website... I'm gonna follow your advice, buddy ! :D
>>54000618
>Let's say, I want package X compiled without lib Y or embedded Z, then I just download the source and recompile said package
Now imagine doing this for every package and then imagine having a tool that does it automatically for you.
Congratulations, you have discovered portage.
>>54000926
Not at pc right now, check man page, maybe -i or -f iirc
>>54000696
>>54000714
How's the performance on both the machines?
>>54000669
audacity
or jack_capture of you use jack.
>>54001065
You shouldn't fuss about it too much. Your machine's modern enough to even run GNOME or KDE flawlessly. Just pick what DE you like.
hey /g/
i updated my system and now firefox highlights things wrong
it feels like all shit is flipped
for example i can click on select all in right click menu but cant click on the highlighted ones, its doing it wrong
help me fix ples
What's wrong with my speccs?
Somehow my Computer won't run Ubuntu properly.
>>54001751
GTK got updated in Arch either revert to the Adwaita theme or update your shitty custom one.
>>54001855
thanks my man
>>54001065
the netbook is pretty good for everything that isn't flash or games.
the celeron box is a bit slow just browsing the web but not the worst I've seen.
In the end there isn't much difference between distros, it's mostly what programs you decide to run.
I feel like both are being bottlenecked by the integrated intel graphics, if you have a graphics card then you can pretty much run and do anything you want.
>>53999778
When there's more discussion of specifically the Linux kernel instead of the GNU operating system, then it would make sense to change the name to Linux.
Just because Linux is the more popular label doesn't make it correct; similar to calling Native Americans, Indians.
>>54002080
kek, nice one pajeet
>>54002106
Jokes on you, that's actually my name.
>mfw i tried fglrx for the first time in my radeon 7850
it was horrible, amd drivers on linux are beyond bad
full of bugs, bad performance, etc
im going to switch to open source driver, and my next GPU is gonna be from jewvidia unfortunately
>>53999778
I discuss about the kernel and still think fglt is a proper name.
Peace
>>54002247
I'm using fglrx with my 270x, what is the problem?
>>54002247
Have to say, it feels pretty good to not care about graphics performance any more. I'm well satisfied enough with my HD6850 running the Radeon driver.
>>53999693
That's a nice example of NERD spreading.
Is there a way to run, let's say, Firefox with a different GTK theme? I'm using a dark as my soul theme and input fields look a bit odd...
>>54002472
>mahjong
>5:4 screen
we are not in 1990 anymore, m9 :^)
>>54002490
I'd update the meme if I'd only had a cat. ;_;
>>54002472
>Is there a way to run, let's say, Firefox with a different GTK theme? I'm using a dark as my soul theme and input fields look a bit odd...
Firefox should use your system-wide Gtk theme.
>>54002540
It does, my question is how to use a different theme for a specific application.
>>54002534
>doesnt have cat
my sympathies
>>54002472
env GTK2_RC_FILES=/usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-2.0/gtkrc gedit
env GTK_THEME=/usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-3.0/gtk.css gedit
env GTK_DATA_PREFIX= gedit
>>54002247
If you actually cared you would use an intel gpu.
>>54002811
>intel gpu
>>54002826
Only gaymers get triggered by this
>>54002320
I can't make dual screen work with xrandr, xinerama works but feels outdated and buggy
My WoW install (wine) runs piss poor full of graphical glitches
>>54001791
That's because you're booted into Windows.
I'm trying to get a vpn running on my home network
I used this script https://github.com/viljoviitanen/setup-simple-openvpn to install it. I can connect to the vpn from outside my LAN just fine, but once I'm connected I can't access anything either on the LAN or on the internet
could I be missing some simple config line?
>>54002247
>im going to switch to open source driver, and my next GPU is gonna be from jewvidia unfortunately
It's okay, we've all had to learn that lesson the hard way.
>>54002811
>>54002826
>>54003041
Intel makes the worst fucking buggy piece of shit drivers in the entire Linux ecosystem.
Even fglrx is better.
>>54003205
I get about the same fps with a 5770 on my desktop and a mobile hd3000 in modded minecraft
>>54003189
I use radeon free driver and I'm very happy with it, I can play all my games on steam just fine with it. I'm glad I didn't buy a card that needs proprietary software to run.
>>53999900
wew lads i managed to figure out what was wrong
I was following the guide from my phone so I guess my dumb ass didn't see the part of the guide where he adds lvm options to grub.
>>54003179
I didn't use the .ovpn file it created, it's working now
Quick question: Program(preferably with GUI) for Bitcoin wallet on GANOOH/Loonix?
>>54003550
https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=linux+bitcoin+wallet+gui
hello /flt/, i need to access some pictures from my phone on my thinkpad x220 over bluetooth, i could use the cable but i just want to be able to use bluetooth so i wont have to deal with wires.
i can see the files, but i can't open them or copy them. how can i view the files? is it my phone restricting me access or is it the OS/driver?
thanks
>>54003916
forgot pic.
>>54003916
>>54003935
iirc If you want to send them to your pc, you send them from your phone. Also check your bluetooth settings on you phone. You may need to enable something, maybe some kind of file sharing.
sudo pacman-key --init && sudo pacman-key --populate && sudo dirmngr && sudo pacman-key --refresh-keys && yes | yaourt -Scc && sudo rm -fR /var/lib/pacman/sync/ yaourt -Syy && yaourt -Syuua && yaourt -S --needed $(yaourt -Qqgg) && yaourt -S --force $(yaourt -Qq) && sudo pacman-optimize && sudo pacdiff && sudo mandb -c && sudo mandb -t && sudo mandb && sudo updatedb && sudo fc-cache -f -r -v && sudo fc-cache-32 -f -r -v && fc-cache -v && fc-cache-32 -v
is xubuntu freetard approved? or should i go with debian xfce?
>>54004222
i used gnome-file-share-properties and i got this, what packages do i need to install? i dont even know where to start looking.
>>54004338
Xubuntu is based on Ubuntu, which has non-free binary blobs on the kernel.
The FSF doesn't endorse Debian, because it has an optional non-free apt repository.
But as long as you don't install any non-free programs by yourself, Debian is 100% free.
So if you want freedom, go with Debian.
>>54004338
Neither xubuntu nor debian xfce are freetard approved. Use a freetard approved distro like Trisquel
>>54004418
The FSF is gommie cancer.
Die.
>>54004377
No idea m8. I can't do it as well. When I want to transfer files from my phone to pc, I select the files on my phone and click share via bluetooth
>>54004464
I didn't even say I like the FSF you retard
>>54004418
>non-free binary blobs on the kernel
does this really matter much? could there really be anything potentially malicious there? sorry if this is a stupid question
>>54004540
There could be something malicious in any piece of proprietary software, though that also doesn't mean it will have.
>>54004540
Those are firmware for hardware compatibility. If you don't need them, there is no reason to use them.
>does this really matter much?
That's up to how much you value your freedom.
>>54004540
All proprietary software without full source code available falls into one of two categories:
1) Known to be malicious
2) Potentially malicious (we don't know)
It is impossible to verify that it is not malicious. It requires blindly trusting the developer, which is ill-advised.
The drivers and firmware control your hardware, and therefore have even more potential for malicious features as they can control a lower-level part of the system.
>>54004632
Ok, it's not *totally* impossible; you could reverse engineer the entire thing. But good luck with that.
>>54004570
>>54004620
>>54004632
why would a distro choose to require non-free components to work then if there are free alternatives? wouldn't ubuntu and its derivatives be better off without them?
>>54004666
They're required for those pieces of hardware to work. Canonical/Ubuntu doesn't care about freedom, so they don't even blink an eye if supporting a wider variety of hardware requires proprietary software.
>>54004666
Higher compatibility. Distros using the blobs work on a higher range of hardware.
That's why some things in Debian can be harder to get working on some machines.
Is there a way I can use GNOME on a Debian without systemd?
I'm not much of a power user, never really go above 5G of RAM usage so is there a need for adding swap memory when I install Arch on my new SSD? I have 8G of RAM and want to preserve the SSD for as long as possible
>>54004702
To be fair almost every distro has a kernel with binary blob. It's just that the most manufacturers a faggots not making their shit open source. You can't have your distro work on one specific machine forged by the dwarves under the mountain, during the full moon, using Thors hammer, with the finest Mithril mined from the Four lands.
>>54004747
Prob not. I have 16g ram and rarely ever use more than 5 at once, so I don't have any swap.
>>54004747
No reason not to have a swap. It won't be written to unless it's needed, in which case it's nice to have. Also necessary if you want to hibernate.
>>54004787
Are you the one posting that, >fell for 16gb meme, every 5minutes?
Anyone placed a list of video games that work on Linux, torrents and so on:
Can anyone share those lists? I'm not a gamer myself - but those lists contained mostly classical games, which usually are short and very very fun - they're also usually 2d and had lots of artistic work in them.
>>54004775
I see some people saying systemd is bad and use GNOME as my DE, so I want to see if switching to another init system would be viable.
>>54004818
But why would you change it? Have you even used it? What problems has it caused you?
>>54004837
None, I'm just curious.
>>54004800
Thank you for the response, It seems to be the case that the constant read/write on the SSD from swap memory reduces its lifespan
Anyone know if Architect still works? Seems to be a dead project
>>54004850
Four days uptime on this laptop with 0B written to swap. My desktop on which I've been messing around with virtual machines has 51MB written to swap. So "constant read/write" isn't really the case. Add to that that any modern SSD can withstand continuous writing for years, and you have nothing to worry about.
Really, the only thing to watch out for with an SSD is to not fill it up too much, as that will affect performance. Which incidentally leaves you with plenty of space for a sizeable swap partition.
>>54003205
They Just Work(tm).
>>53999693
Stallman uses public transport? I thought he'd take issue with the non-free software in trains, cars, planes etc. and just ride a gnu everywhere?
>>54004808
You mean GNU/Linux right?
>>54004892
By the time you asked and waited for an answer, you could have read the beginner guide and installed Arch yourself.
>>54000677
Saved. Supersoak that GNo!
Can anyone on arch Linux build and upload the latest chromium-dev package for me please?
The version I currently have is complaining about updated dependencies and downgrading that breaks other programs
My shitty laptop just can't handle it
64bit btw
>>54005305
Doesn't AUR have a package for that?
>>54004653
have this nsfw version :^)
>>54005360
I just found this
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/chromium-snapshot-bin/
going to try it now
>>54002472
You can use Stylish to modify your UserChrome independently from the rest of the OS.
>>54002540
>>54000996
You both may have actual autism.
>>54005518
>both
>lel
>>54005566
You, as an individual, have actual autism. Consider this a diagnosis.
>>54005085
Yes but 99% of us just use Linux because it is implied among all of cerebral people that there are also GNU tools inside.
I do not want to judge you, I know retarded people that lack brain power need to use tools such as writing to memorize and comprehend stuff.
>>54005518
>>54002540 (You)
>>54000996 (You)
>You both may have actual autism.
>>54005745
>both
>lel
Redpill me on GRUB (or dual-booting in general)
Isn't dualbooting Arch + Win7 the perfect setup right now if boot time is not an issue?
>>54005920
Replace Arch by Gentoo and yes
>>54005801
ayyyy
>>54005920
If you need Windows for whatever and using it in a VM isn't an option, then sure, go right ahead.
I just wish you wouldn't use that terrible expression.
>>54005978
(You) have terrible font rendering
>>54006008
>pixel-perfect terminus
>terrible
You clearly haven't been on /g/ long enough
>>54004808
http://www.lgdb.org/
I've found a number of cool games on Steam through this website.
>>54005920
>Redpill me on GRUB
Learn the grub syntax and how to repair a system from the rescue shell
Now you will be able to salvage absolutely everything without needing to pussy out and use a liveCD
guys, I really need your help.
Just installed i3-gaps-git from yaourt
after this I open the .i3/config and simply add ''gaps inner x" and "gaps outer x" saved and restart
BUT NOTHING HAPPENS
what I do? what is missing??
>>54006254
install xmonad
>>54006043
>falling for /g/ font meme
>>54006254
>i3-gaps
>i3
>yaourt
full retard
>>54004464
Trump supports mass surveillance. Sounds more Commie to me.
>>54006298
W-why
>>54006338
..
I've got this TP-Link T2UH dongle I'm trying to get working on arch
there's quite a few github repos and even something on the aur, but they all fail when compiling==> Starting build()...
make: Entering directory '/tmp/yaourt-tmp-simcye/aur-mt7610u_wifi_sta/src/mt7610u_wifi_sta'
make -C tools
make[1]: Entering directory '/tmp/yaourt-tmp-simcye/aur-mt7610u_wifi_sta/src/mt7610u_wifi_sta/tools'
gcc -g bin2h.c -o bin2h
make[1]: Leaving directory '/tmp/yaourt-tmp-simcye/aur-mt7610u_wifi_sta/src/mt7610u_wifi_sta/tools'
/tmp/yaourt-tmp-simcye/aur-mt7610u_wifi_sta/src/mt7610u_wifi_sta/tools/bin2h
chipset = mt7610u
cp -f os/linux/Makefile.6 /tmp/yaourt-tmp-simcye/aur-mt7610u_wifi_sta/src/mt7610u_wifi_sta/os/linux/Makefile
make -C /lib/modules/4.1.20-1-lts/build SUBDIRS=/tmp/yaourt-tmp-simcye/aur-mt7610u_wifi_sta/src/mt7610u_wifi_sta/os/linux modules
make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/lib/modules/4.1.20-1
>>54006507
Communism is like applied Socialism
>>54005978
>bitmap fonts
>>54006555
>blurry fonts
disgusting
>>54005920
>redpill me
>>>/reddit/
dual booting is top pleb
run windows in a vm and passthrough a gpu like a real man
>>54006566
>blurry
looks fine to me m8
>>54006598
you really can't see this crap?
Damn, I'm actually sort of jealous. I wish I could go back to being able to just ignore artifacts, too.
>>54006668
no, because my face isn't 2 inches from the display
those 'artifacts' are how you're supposed to render text on LCD's
>>54006693
>those 'artifacts' are how you're supposed to render text on LCD's
mfw this is what they want you consumers to believe
subpixel hinting is the worst fucking thing to ever touch font rendering. subpixel rendering in general is garbage. Nobody else does it.
Just font people with their autistic patent wars make you believe it's how fonts are supposed to look. Because the end user literally can't see the artifacts
also it's extra funny because my display doesn't even have an RGB pixel order
>>54006808
You seem to know a lot about this.
Is my font rendering good?>>54005801
If not, how to fix?
>>54000497
yes
>>54007002
he doesn't know dick about font rendering, since he uses bitmap fonts
>>54007002
Nothing wrong with Y our font rendering
>>54003916
try airdroid or something like that
>>54003916
try syncthing
>>54002080
Indians prefer to be called that way, did you know? I live in Canada and there's a lot of them. THe government pushes the term "First Nations" but they call themselves Indians.
>>54007080
Excellent
>>54006254
Silly kot can't into computers
>>54005658
>cerebral
top euphoric
Is there a possibility to create my own awful.layout for awesome wm? And how would I do it?
I decided to learn to program for the 10th time in my life and I want to install GNU/Linux because I think it'll be a lot easier to learn using an open source OS, besides I'm interested in sysadmin and learning this OS aswell.
What distro could I use as a begginer? I'll just use it for programming (C and Python for now) and all I need are the necessary software for this purpose. I plan to use a 10GiB virtual machine on VirtualBox to install it.
>>54007407
debian
>>54007407
Fedora. Cause newer packages, relatively stable. Has integrated shit for development. Linus uses it to develop GNU software.
>>54007439
I'll second Debian. Netinstall without a desktop environment and just vim for programming. Learning Linux the hard way.
>>54007407
Fedora.
>>54006292
>>54006298
>>54007540
>friendly thread
>>54003205
What? The performance and stability are the same between intel on NT and Intel on linux.
Has anyone got Dark Souls III running in Wine on Linux?
>>54007225
on a related note, I'm looking to do a minimalistic setup, with all hand selected userland programs, can I get some wm/panel suggestions
>>54007439
>>54007479
>>54007518
>>54007540
Thanks for the posts. I was thinking about Lubuntu or LXLE but I guess I'll go with Debian. If I didn't like it then Fedora will be my second option.
Sorry for my ignorance but I don't reall know very well the difference between a DE and a window manager, will I have to install both? I really wanted to go Debian + i3. Is it recommended for a begginer? If not what would be a good DE or window manager?
>>53999950
fslint
>>54007790
well if this is your first tango, then go with Gnome, KDE or Xfce. No need to complicate things. A Desktop Environment will take care of things like network management for you, which you would have to configure on the command line in i3. That might be a good learning experience, but if you want to become familiar with Linux it's just nice to not have to to -everything- all at once.
Just installed Xubuntu, completely deleted windows, pretty good so far. Just need to setup a Virtual Box tomorrow for Office and other software.
Sup /fglt/, what's a good music player for linux?
>>54008018
mpd+ncmpcpp
>>54008018
cmus or deadbeef is what I'm currently using senpai
>>54008018
Afaik there's no kernel module for playing music, but you could try once of these https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications/Multimedia#Audio_players running in GNU. Personal favorites: mpv mpd+ncmpcpp, MOC.
>>54008360
>Afaik there's no kernel module for playing music
kek
>>54007935
Sounds good. I'll go with Debian + Gnome or Xfce then. As soon as I get comfortable with the OS and command line I'll give i3 a shot.
Thanks for your help.
>>54008018
cmus
So I installed the file picker gtk2 patch
But I think Firefox is using GTK3 now as file picker
Any way to use gtk2 as file picker?
>>54008543
use firefox compiled with gtk2
if you use arch there's firefox-gtk2-bin in the AUR
>>54008603
gonna try it out
thanks!
How do i manage OOM killing?
I've checked my swappiness and cache pressure,but when ram is fully buffered,and i play any sort of media,it hard locks and ias to be rfkilled.
>>54007987
Why would you want to use ms office?
>>53999795
Linux spent millions of hours working on linux whole stallman was in his mothers basement eating cheetos.
This is a pathetic attempt at trying to show the world that he has made an accomplishment since the 90's
He is trying to steal limielight from linux and backpack on his success
>>54009076
Enable a swap partition or swap file.
>>54009077
>>54009077
>>54009711
swap is irrelevent and no longer needed if you have more then 2gb of ram.
Swapping isnt an issue as 90% of my ram is being buffered/cached
>>54009720
not this again. just post in both threads and see which one is more popular. no need for drama
>>54009745
nice meme, but you're getting OOM because you're out of memory, using swap would fix this. You can also disregard my advice and stay stubborn, but it's not my machine killing programs because it's out of memory.
>>54009863
>16gb of ram
>using 1.8gb activly
>15.2gb buffered/cached
Its not activating OOM
Its been a non-issue for close to decade.
>>54008433
i3 isn't as good as you think it is. Actually it's a cluster fuck. There are way better window managers that don't require mountains of customization work to get in usable state.
>>54009342
>Linux spent millions of hours working on linux
Actually he only work on the new things, everything else is maintained by his team
>whole stallman was in his mothers basement eating cheetos.
The GNU operating system project started around 1984. The Linux kernel development started around 1991.
>He is trying to steal limielight from linux and backpack on his success
No, by asking people to call it GNU/Linux, he's basically trying to remind people that the OS was created so people can have free computing, not as hobby project by some student. Look around, the first thing people do after installing Ubuntu is Skype and Steam. That's missing the whole point of escaping from Windows.
>>54009879
>How do i manage OOM killing?
>I SWEAR ITS NOTHING TO DO WITH OOM
>I know better than you, so I'm not going to listen!!
Why are you even asking a question here?
>>54009885
i3 requires next to no configuration to get "in a usable state"
>>54009949
>gnu hurd came out 20 years later
>stallman "Hurd isnt stable and no one really should use it,and i acknowledge that it is a peice of shit"(source his website)
He is piggybacking on Linus to make people think he is relevent.His own redeeming factor is GPL.
I know this is fake.But the points brought up in it, arent.
>your version of free is different from my version of free.REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>54010021
Nice meme, sadly rms would never create a Google account. You tried.
>>54009960
Because there is no OOM in the logs.
vfs cache settings are fine,even at stock settings.
What you said isnt contributing to the original question.
>better then you
10 years of working flawlessly sure is more data then some pissant throwing out bullshit on 4chan.
>>54010043
>FUCKING SAYS IT IS FAKE WITHIN THE POST
Fuck this place is summer tonight
>>54010060
>10 years of working flawless
>can't solve his own issue of applications getting killed
Stay stubborn, anon.
Meanwhile I'll continue using my actually flawless working systems.
>>54010081
Wait. You actually expected me to read the whole cancerous shitpost?
>>54010109
>applications are not being killed(proof you have no concept of the orginal problem was)
>>54002080
I grew up calling them Indians and I'll die calling them Indians.
>>54008360
Alsa is a kernel module idiot
https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/1fmkzw/im_writing_a_letter_to_the_dean_of_my_college/
>>54010021
Fake
We discuss GNU/Linux here
Android cucks stay out of this
>>54009949
Implying I'm on Linux to "escape from Windows" for philosophical reasons, nope I'm here so I'm in control of my computing experience, so I can work with my os rather than against it. If I want to Skype then my os should enable that bit prohibit it because it supports freedom of choice. If you support you support tyranny.
So, is Sweet-OS real or just a flash meme?
Googling it is kind of difficult since the name is so generic.
>>54010649
>freedom of choice
And here's your problem: If you choose not to have freedom, you don't have freedom.
>I'm here so I'm in control of my computing.
While using Skype, you have no control over your computing, even worse: Skype controls your computing, while the NSA is logging.
>>54010843
I guess it's a meme. He never provided any source.
>>54010843
I hate this meme
Hey guys. I have Debian as my main operating system on my computer, with a small Windows 10 partition for things that still don't play nice with Wine.
I'd like to learn how to hibernate either Debian or Win10 and be able to boot into the other. So far the procedure to switch involves restarting and picking one or the other in GRUB.
I tried https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/755/hibernate-status-button/
but when I click it I get a screen with hardware related 'hangs' and promptly takes me back to my desktop a few seconds later
How can I go about fixing this? Is it safer to just switch with fresh reboots?
I should probably state that I'm using a 8GB swap file, which should cover the needs of my system image.
>>53999778
>a week ago
the name has been different for a lot longer than that
>>54010843
Apparently Sweetos are cinnamon flavored cheetos.
>>54011120
Post the log from when hibernate failed. Also iirc hibernate is a bit shit on Linux
>>54011255
Where would I find the log for the attempt?
>>54001791
what's the issue?
>>54010845
>If you choose not to have freedom, you don't have freedom
Very good anon. And if you slavishly follow someone elses freedom restiricting doctrine you also have less freedom. It seems you cannot have your cake and eat it too ;(
>Skype controls your computing
Really! Thats so amaze! I totally didn't realize it had that feature!
>the NSA is logging
if I cared I wouldn't be ising skype. You see it's an *informed* choice.
>>54011294
If using pm-utils it will be in /var/log/pm-suspend.log or if using systemd ... I dunno doesn't that have some kind of system wide journalctl thing?
Is adding xset lines to my xinitrc a shitty hack? Is there a proper way to set those. I havexset s 900 900 ; xset m 1 4
near the bottom just before I kick off my wm. Is this proper?
>>54011416
Yeah but I can't find it in the syslog for systemd for some reason
>>54011418
I think thats fine. X11 used to shove a whole bunch of shit in xorg.conf but then they moved to discouriging using that file so if you arn't using a de or settings framework to do it for you ...
When dealing with a dual boot setup - which is saner?
Letting Windows use UTC or letting Linux use local time?
What are the disadvantages for both?
>>54011392
>freedom restiricting
[citiation needed]
>Really! Thats so amaze! I totally didn't realize it had that feature!
Let me help your slow brain a little bit: If you can read and/or modify the source code, you're in control over your program. If you can't, the developer controls the program and you are just some guy who clicks "Ok", so his unknown code can run on your computer.
>if I cared I wouldn't be ising skype. You see it's an *informed* choice.
People who don't care, mostly don't realize that not caring == supporting. Today you may not care, but tomorrow, when there is no free speech left in cyberspace and you need to pay cash money to someone you called "faggot" over the internet, then you may care, but then it's too late.
>>54011531
Well I don't use systemd so if no-one else is going to pitch in you will just have to google sytemd hibernate debug and try some different shit.
>>54011585
>>freedom restiricting
>[citiation needed]
The GPL mandates that you do some shit if you use it y'know, like telling you what to do.
>unknown code can run on your computer
>Skype controls your computing
These are two different things anon
>Today you may not care, but tomorrow, ...
So basically you are using hyperbolic rhetoric and scare tactics to coerce people into a freetard mindset?
>>54011544
Alrighty. I know some things can be done in Xorg.conf but wasn't sure if these were it. I did handle the 3 DPMS settings in it though.
>>54011680
It's not restricting freedom; the GPL is protecting freedom, so it can stay free, rather than getting restricted.
What would you say if you programmed something and released it under WTFPL, or a BSD-like license and then some company comes along, takes your code, makes it propritary and sells it back to you?
That's literally cuckolding yourself.
>>54011680
>>So basically you are using hyperbolic rhetoric and scare tactics to coerce people into a freetard mindset?
I'm basically saying that there's no difference in real life and digital life. You shouldn't allow support things online that you wouldn't support offline. In this example: Spying on you.
>>54011680
>b-but it's restricting my freedom to restrict freedom!
>>54000645
shitposting
>>54011820
>It's not restricting freedom
*facepalm* you can't say that because we are doing it for noble reasons our restrictions aren't restrictions. That isn't even stupidity that is willful ignorance.
>makes it propritary and sells it back to you?
Well I wouldn't fucking buy it would I?
>>54011932
>>Well I wouldn't fucking buy it would I?
I guess you'd download some albanian crack.
>>54011955
He is an albanian crack.
How does wine work?
For example If I want to play a game trough it and the game wants to generates some registries? Are the registries stored locally within wine? Or other such files generated by games or software?
>>54012105
There is a folder called .wine where it's all stored.
>>54012105
wine creates a virtual C drive to store that sort of stuff
>>54012008
Usually when you double click an .exe file, wine should start and run it, if not:
- Terminal
- $ wine setup.exe
That's all. ~/.wine works like a sandbox. Everything which would be at C:\ is in there.
>>54012008
kek
>>54011548
G-guys? Anyone?
what do you guys think of jwm? is it worth customizing and using? the only drawback I see is you have to edit a config file to set it up, and I don't know what I'm doing but there's plenty of documentation. so is it worth the time to figure out what I'm doing with jwm?
