So now that Windows 10 can run nearly every Linux app flawlessly (even graphical ones), what's the point of switching?
There isn't.
The same as before, the kernel.
>>53976277
Linux isn't a botnet like windows
>>53976277
Linux can run Windows flawless (KVM, PCI passthrough) since a while ago. You can even de-botnet it.
It depends on your use case. I'll admit, this is far better than cygwin or the alternatives, and fantastic if you need to dual-boot to access work-related stuff. It's really starting to boil down to where you're comfortable.
Realistically, if you're using linux at work or doing sysadmin work, you should be running some sort of linux distro at home.
>>53976277
the ui looks like shit family.. but I'm using OS X.. I am probably spoiled by perfect UI.
>>53976366
>OS X
>Perfect UI
Pick one
>>53976277
I'm out of the loop. What is this wizardry? I can finally run my superior linux software at work?
>>53976392
Top kek
>>53976366
>perfect UI
>>53976410
Windows 10 build 14316 can run bash and consequently apt-get and consequently a majority of stuff that can be run on Ubuntu.
>>53976277
So, this is reverse WINE
>>53976277
I peronaly have a limited internet connection and don't want windows sucking it up with updates or all of that restarting business. I am already "comfy" on Linux, so why go back to Windows to be on Linux? I prefer my sense of control I have with Linux that I feel I lose with Windows.
>>53976427
>Ubuntu
>>53976277
freedom
>>53976277
Link?
>>53976366
>OSXfags talking shit about UIs
>>53976277
running bloated broken shit on top of even more bloated and broken shit. where's the fucking point ?
>>53976277
>running a bunch of lame shit
Have you tried Servo on it?
>>53976277
MInd to try redshift on it? thats the only program which i actually miss on Windows.
>>53976277
Ubuntu is horsehit and isn't real GNU/Linux. Just like running Ubuntu inside Windows isn't really running GNU/Linux. If you need this explained to you, you should probably just stick with Winshit.
>>53976277
>app
Kill thyself.
>>53976509
why not use flux?
>>53976525
>He doesn't realise 'app' was in common use for decades before mobile 'apps' were even a thing.
Underage please go.
>>53976525
I meant "app" as in "application".
>>53976277
RMS won't give you some "Little Richard" if you've had yours balls deep in non-free software.
>>53976421
BIG
>>53976541
I just dont like it, i prefer something smaller and faster, i also dont see the point of having a UI for a program like that.
I also feel like f.lux isnt quite optimized.
>>53976277
there isn't anymore :^)
>>53976366
>OSXfags
>>53976574
>>53976577
Not what I'm referring to. Some of the most useful programs on *nix run as daemons or are tied tightly into the kernel and not user "applications".
>>53976277
isn't that cheating by using the cygwin X over TCP?
>>53976277
ahm i dunno, how about:
>better desktop environments.
>Better file mangers.
>Much better customization.
>Low mantainance, i just need to run a command or the graphical updater to have all my programs up to date, if i use an stable distro i know i'll get security updates without expecting any sudden changes.
>Thousands of programs available without restrictions and without effort.
>Better infraestructure, the kernel is a good example of this.
>Lightwheight compared to windows and more responsive.
>No restrictions on how you can use your operative system.
>No need to accept microsoft's EULA, much better terms in general for the user.
>Most programs uses well documented standards by default so i know that the content i create with those will not be locked easily into that software.
>Much more comfier for development in general even if including bash on windows is an step in the right direction.
It's very subjective but that's what i think.
>>53976486
That's his point. Now you don't have to because you can take care of your Linux stuff on Windows.
>>53976277
You're less likely to get a virus on Linux by itself
>>53976277
>So now that Windows 10 can run nearly every Linux app flawlessly
year of the GNU/Windows desktop never
>>53976817
lol'd
>>53976366
>I am probably spoiled by perfect UI.
aight
The idea of using linux is to free for muh proprietary software.
But at least now, I can install rtorrent on muh w10 boot now.
>>53976277
Linux fags on suicide watch
>>53976445
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of shit with down syndrome.
>>53977028
Literally
>/b/, the comment
>>53976277
Well Stallman, you got your wish.
Linux has been wiped from GNU.
>>53976366
>no one proving os x has shitt ui
Windows is malicious spyware
>>53976277
Freedoms.
This win10 linux rapes free software.
Embrace. Extend. Extinguish.
>>53976277
I'll be honest with you OP, the decision to switch depends on your opinion on a very simple question:
Do you, or do you not, enjoy having Microsoft's dick 9 inches up your ass at all times?
>>53976277
If I am able to run KDE then I'll think about it
can someone explain to me how this could possibly be legal? has stallman said anything about it yet?
>>53976277
Still no deep DE integration. I hope that soon they'll allow to replace bloated Explorer.
>>53976277
So that you don't have to use windows
>>53980516
I think KDE has worked on Windows for ages.
>>53976277
>Linux app
>App
>>53979788
How would that work here exactly
>>53976767
This
>better desktop environments.
"omg unity is shit", "xfce is shit", "kde is shit" ,"gnome is autism", "b-but all our DEs are great! Try them winfag xxDDD".
>Better file mangers.
No.
>Much better customization.
Not anymore.
>Low mantainance, i just need to run a command or the graphical updater to have all my programs up to date, if i use an stable distro i know i'll get security updates without expecting any sudden changes.
Ma, cancel my meeting I gotta recompile Xorg and troubleshoot all these errors.
>Thousands of programs available without restrictions and without effort.
Literally windows.
>Better infraestructure, the kernel is a good example of this.
The kernel is outdated.
>Lightwheight compared to windows and more responsive.
What is kde. Linux uses more resources than a 64-bit windows 10 system.
>No restrictions on how you can use your operative system.
Neither on windows now.
>No need to accept microsoft's EULA, much better terms in general for the user.
There will always be a EULA, it's legally required. Linux just put it on their website.
>Most programs uses well documented standards by default so i know that the content i create with those will not be locked easily into that software.
Programs literally look like windows 98 applications.
>Much more comfier for development in general even if including bash on windows is an step in the right direction.
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>>53976277
I didn't realize that switching was a thing? I wouldn't switch regardless of whether windows can run all of linux. why? Because I'm happy where I am. Windows is shit, linux is godly.
Enjoy your bonnet, Pajeet.
>>53981654
Literally everything you said was wrong.
>>53981654
nice sources faggot
>>53977028
this
>>53976872
>bash on ubuntu on windows
For fuck's sake
>>53977143
kek
>>53976277
I'm really not going to develop for Linux from windows.. really If I want to develop for Linux I do it while on Linux and test on Linux.
On the other hand windows 10 is still a botnet now with more bloat.
>>53976277
You could always run 99% of open source shit on windows anyway, it's only windows shitware that isn't cross platform.
>>53981654
Good one Pajeet.
>>53976277
>Linux app
/g/ is dead
>>53981676
amen
>>53982210
Why? Is "app" not short for "application"? Are all these things you can run not applications?
>>53982350
>executable
>"app"
>binaries
>"app"
Back to Apple, fag.
>>53982368
application
A program or piece of software designed to fulfil a particular purpose.
>>53976366
>OS X
Go back to fucking Instafag and 9fag you money wasting hipster. Go pay $200 to add 8GB of RAM.
Perfect UI, bah, if you really want that shit UI come back here with PearOS.
>>53976277
Linux doesn't have apps. Linux is a kernel.
>>53982389
A term co-opted by Apple and has since spread like cancer to Windows.
>>53982600
I don't see what is wrong with the term.
>>53982607
You're a faggot, so of course there isn't anything wrong with the term.
>>53981654
This is the worst post I've read this year.
>>53976277
A non-dystpian future
>>53976767
So much this
It makes me sad that after all these years some of you have not grown out of Windows
>>53981654
You're not a very good shill, are you?
>>53982802
>>53982667
t. RedHat employee
>>53982607
Application != binary != executable
>>53982895
An executable file starts an application.
I'm assuming the 'binary' you're referring to is a binary executable file, which also starts an application.
Programs have been called applications well before iOS existed.
Stop trying to be a faggot hipster by refusing to use a word that could be construed as mainstream.
>>53976767
Winshills BTFO
>>53982870
Do you realize the irony of your post?
RedHat Enterprise Linux is now shipping with .NET built-in, and are supporting C# as a first-class langauge.
RHEL has literally joined the .NET foundation, and now Microsoft Azure cloud hosts RHEL servers.
>>53982937
Holy shit you're stupid
Let me say it again
>Application != binary != executable
No wonder you fagots call it all by one name if you don't even differentiate between them.
>2016 is the year of GNOO PLUS WEENDOS
>>53983006
You dumb nigger, the original complaint was bitching about OP saying 'Linux apps', which is valid terminology.
Yes, you are correct, those three things are not exactly the same.
No one was saying they were synonyms until you came along. However, you can use them interchangeably in some contexts.
>Run the GIMP executable
>Run the GIMP application
Both of these sentences mean the same thing in this context, given that GIMP is compiled locally with an executable file available.
1. If you want to be completely open source for one. Not how I think, but there are people out there who value that very highly
2. Its free
3. If you want an extremely lightweight operating system that can run in a ram disk.
4. If you have more than 2 CPU sockets on your motherboard.
5. If you have a non x86 or AMD64 processor.
6. If you want complete customizability of your OS.
7. No "botnet" on Linux
8. Almost no viruses on the desktop platform
There are plenty of reasons to still use Linux. I use both Linux and windows, because both are great operating systems for what I do with them. Having bash on windows makes my life 2x easier as well. Stop riding Microsoft's dick. And for the Linux shills, stop riding Stallman and Torvalds dick. Both have there uses.
>>53982368
Apps has been used to describe a category of warez applications for download since the early 90s, probably even sooner. FTP was standardized in 85. Apps directories started popping up soon after. Keep in mind warez was distributed for years before Napster was even created.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_file_sharing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warez
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_software
Why people think apps can only exist on phones when the term has been used for decades in software is pretty comical. Just easily points out the underagers who thinks Steve Jobs invented a word.
>>53983109
Vidya doesn't count as proper use, Pajeet. There's nothing good about Windows.
>>53976277
Because the worst part of windows is the slow as shit kernel and terrible desktop environment
>>53983334
Adobe Premier? Photoshop? Any GPU intensive program ever? Not to mention games as well.
>>53976366
Whenever you're on /g/ just post something like that
It triggers the bunch of autismos around to no end.
>>53983334
t. NEET
>>53976427
Microsoft STILL FUCKING HAVEN'T SENT OUT THE FUCKING PREVIEW BUILD TO ME EVEN THOUGH I'VE BEEN FUCKING SIGNED UP FOR IT FOR OVER A WEEK WITH FAST PREVIEW BUILDS ENABLED AND THE MACHINE RUNNING FOR OVER 24 HOURS. I CLICK CHECK FOR UPDATES BUT NOPE, NO FUCKING PREVIEW BUILDS FOR YOU.
FUCK YOU MS WITH A THORNY STICK.
>>53976392
>>53976421
>>53976470
>>53976641
>>53979398
>>53976911
>>53982416
>>53983498
>not taking the bait
>>53983572
It's because the way windows update is written, they fucked up and can only send out updates to 100 PC's at once, batch per batch.
>>53976277
Why would you want to run linux GUI apps though?
>>53983599
Well fuck, how long am I going to be waiting?
>>53983597
What bait? OSX has the better looks.
>>53983626
Yeah, this exactly, I never got my preview updates, as hard as I tried, did get normal updates tho, but had to download ISO's to update builds.
>>53976277
Your mom
What's the point in using Windows if I can run all of my applications in Linux anyway?
>>53983671
If all of the applications you use run fine in Linux, might as well use Linux.
Sadly, I don't have this luxury. In my case, there is either no alternative on Linux, or the Linux counterpart is inferior.
>>53981389
They do it over ubuntu and theoretically don't use gpl3 software directly. Not sure how this works legally but MS got a lot of lawyers.
He said things about it in the most recent talks afaik.
>>53983763
What do you need exactly?
>>53976329
>Flawless
>>53985227
Not whatever open source pile of monkeyshit you're about to recommend.
>>53985269
I was trying to be helpful faggot. Fuck you.
>>53985248
Actually virtual machines with passthrough work really reliable but you need 2 gpus.
>>53985227
Linux playing well with a Windows DC.
Is this possible?
>>53985509
Does it need to be a windows domain controller or would something similar work? Because multi user systems are kinda standard in the *NIX world and samba4 is hard to get into but pretty good. Did you try it yet?
Maybe do so if you got some time at hand. Good luck.
>>53983464
>adobe
why would I want shitty non-free software?
>gpu intensive programs
quit talking smack nigger
>>53983464
>Adobe Premier? Photoshop?
Ok i give you that but not every person need this programs, a lot of them can use the programs available for linux, also photoshop can be run in wine, after all MS already recognized the need for compatibility layers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqgugAj69xw
>Any GPU intensive program ever?
There's GPU intensive programs on linux and any person can verify that.
>Not to mention games as well.
More than 2000 and growing, ok maybe this is still a reason for those who have games as a top priority but saying that there's no games for linux is currently false, check the steam page.
>>53983599
>>53983626
Funny how people post this screenshot and just state everything written on it as a fact, without knowing if it's actually true.
>>53985869
Nah, there was a article about it way before the screenshot. Also seeing how fucked up the preview updater is, I'm not wondering at all.
>>53983572
what a friggin' moron. Go get your install.esd from the Russians and you will never need to wait for shit
>>53985784
I was obviously exaggerating when I was talking about GPU intensive programs. Remember I use both OSes. Most people don't want to switch to Linux over windows because they don't want to relearn there entire computer. Windows has ease of use, tons of programs, .exe files (ease of use again) and games. There are reasons to use windows over Linux if you are the average user. I use Linux (arch specifically) on my T420, and windows on my desktop.
>>53986710
My desktop.
>>53976392
>>53976421
>>53976470
>>53976641
>>53979398
>>53976911
>>53982416
>>53983498
>Pajeets think Winshit UI is better than OSX
Top kek
>>53976277
>C:\Windows\system32\bash.exe
still drives my sides up
original nt (1993): ability to run non-win32 subsystems on nt kernel
windows xp: cripple the linux subsystem on nt kernel, make it for enterprise only
windows 8: remove it altogether
windows 10: bring it back and add ubuntu repos
you could run nearly any linux app flawlessly since pretty much ever.
>>53986813
are you on acids
>>53976511
Just curious. Could it work as a sort of tutorial before one fully gets into Linux, sort of like an emulation of the real thing?
>>53987093
Not as good as a VM. VMs are perfect as an intro. You can even copy your dotfiles.
>>53986740
Holy shit, that's some slow ass memory, those timing's at that speed? KEK
Also using different subvendor cards, lame.
>>53986786
>He thinks we're implying Winshit or OSgayseX are good
>>53988571
d0n'7 y0u h4v3 c0ck 1n 7h3 d35k70p 7hr34d 70 5uck?
wh47 4r3 y0u 3v3n d01n6 h3r3?
>>53976277
>demonstrate your superiority by integrating the software you've chided as irrelevant and inferior for decades
Yeaaah, you sure showed them.
It can't run SweetOS
>>53976366
Couldn't agree more
>>53981654
LOL @ recompiling xorg.
You have obviously never used linux if you think people use distros like gentoo. Even arch has precompiled packages.
KDE is selective. You can change your DE, Very few Windows shells exist.
>No restrictions on how you can use your os
I could recompile Linux if i wanted too. No freedom.
>Linux EULA
More freedom. Less spying
>Kernel outdated
Last commit a few minutes ago
>Much better customization
X programs run like shit and look like shit
3$ has been deposited to your pajeet account.
>>53988622
Just visiting bb
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UDhRwxU.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>53988666
>running applications in an emulator
seems bloated as fuck
>>53976277
>what's the point of switching?
Freedom. I don't need the garbage that windows comes with. The only stock program I used on windows was mspaint
>>53976872
>bash on ubuntu on windows
>>53986884
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_POSIX_subsystem
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Services_for_UNIX
>>53976277
Debian boots WAY faster than Windows.
>>53976277
Pajeet, please get a real job.
my keystrokes and screenshots don't go to micro and soft every 5 seconds on lunix
>>53981654
Winfag detected
>>53987358
Speccy reports half of what it actually is. Plus its in quad channel which is ~2x as fast as dual channel ram.
Well, you're still on Windows...
Some TUI programs break because of the way Windows handles the command line. But to be fair, the Ubuntu integration is still in beta, so I hope Microsoft gets on that soon.
how i can install bash on windows without updating? with powershell or something.
first benchmarks.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows-10-lxcore&num=1
In some tests is better than original Ubuntu
>>53987358
>I don't know anything about RAM
could you just fucking kill yourself?
>>53993093
but it sucks monkey balls at disk access.
Anyway I'm pretty impressed.
>>53993129
This
>>53993093
this is hillarious
>>53976277
GOOD GOYS
USE WINSHOAS 10 NOW WITH FREE PRIVACY FREEDOM
100% NSA-PROOF
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR?
>>53976277
Get your $50 back from your OEM and take money out of Satya Nadella's wallet. That's enough reason for me.
>>53993989
>what are you waiting for?
you fucking freetards to stop trying to be funny
literally noone cares what sort of loli porn you wankers are looking at
Can anyone using the insider preview tell me if you can use sudo?
If it does, does it only work for ubuntu applications or does it work for windows in general?
I've always found the lack of a simple command to get super user privileges very annoying on windows, specially when you are using old batch files.
>>53976309
FUCKING /THREAD
ALL THE POSTS BELOW THE ONE I REPLIED TO ARE IRRELEVANT/SHITPOSTING/SHILLING
>>53994249
would you rather have your own government spy on you or a next door neighbor looking through your window?
either way, it's the same thing.
>>53981654 (You)
>>53995374
fuck, anyone?
>>53976277
Can I run i3 with Windows now because of this?
>>53981580
Nope, you can run KDE software, not KWin (properly) or replace Explorer with Dolphin
>>53976277
yesterday I tried this out on a friends pc
tried a few commands:
> $ screen
> // some error about not being able to find a library
> $ dig A google
> // network stack error'd out
> $ ping google.com
> // same network stack error
Could have been something about how he had his firewall configured. Still kek.
>>53976277
I don't understand these threads. Why do you keep asking me about switching to windows? Linux already does everything I want.
>>53977143
My sides
Windows 10 can't run LXTerminal nor LXDE with a virtual X server though.
>>53995440
what I'm saying is I don't give a flying fuck if anyone spies on me
I shit with the door open with people home
I walk around my room naked after a shower if I'm looking for clothes, sometimes with the blinds open
I use both proprietary and free software, whichever is the best for my use
I don't give a fuck who looks, why they're looking, or what they're looking for
>>53995736
even if they steal your identity, use your credit/debit card/cash without permission, steal your SSN, leak your info, or blackmail you?
>>53995758
>steal money
I have insurance, and I don't leave my fucking financial information lying around
>blackmail you
oh no, because I really care if people see some of my secrets
>>53995865
might as well share your full name, street address, and IP address too since you seem to not give a shit about your privacy
>>53976366
O i am lafin
>>53982600
>being this young
>>53976767
Also lower RAM usage, which is great for VMs on my laptop, plus I can ssh into my niz VMs from my host, comfy-style.
>>53976277
Nobody switches to Linux because of software support
>>53985691
Because it's good non free software. GIMP on the other hand is shitty free software.
>>53976277
What you're referring to as Windows 10 is in fact GNU + NT. Please give equal mention.
>>53995532
sudo doesn't work yet
>>53976767
the other stuff is subjective and/or is focused on dev shit
>Better file mangers.
Windows has XYplorer.
>>Lightwheight compared to windows and more responsive.
nigga pls
>No need to accept microsoft's EULA
I'll give you this, but the alternative is having to use Linux
Well Op your question is too general to answer, but i'lll try my best.
reasons I don't like windows that much
1.- From a clean install is bloated with programs I don't like in fact, I don't like even those programs that are a part of the OS.
2.- ntfs
3.- insta-Botnet
4.- forced updates
5.- the way updates work in general on windows
6.- Microsoft sucks
7.- Can't really customize
8.- gets slower with time
9.- defragmentation
10.- font rendering
11.- uninstalling programs
12.- constantly making huge ans scary changes on the already buggy and unstable operative system
13.- I have a macbook pro 13" mid 2012
14.- Networking tools feel like shit in windows
15.- can't read output directly from my hardware devices
16.- doesn't respects any freedom
17.- forces you to accept a EULA that makes you a prositute in theory
18.- Can't run a live usb
19.- security is ridiculous
20.- haven't even patched sticky keys bug
>Reason num 20 should be sufficient for most of us here in /g/
21.- worst user base on planet
I could continue but I got bored c ya
