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>Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
>FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
>Buyers template for new blud:
http://pastebin.com/33S1gVkG

where all the zealios?
>ded switch ded general
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Clean as a whistle, 2€ from a flea market. Can you guess what keyboard it is?
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>>53915339
Tumblr isnt funny, the whole early 2000s CG and 3d skeletons bullshit has gone way past the point of being even mildly ironic/funny and is N w just absolute retarded trash. Like why do you think that image is funny? You'd have to be one of those black croptop+tennis skirt wearing ass red lip stick having ass eyebrow plucking ass teenage meme sluts to even remotely have a chuckle at this retarded fucking image. God, /g/ is bad.
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>>53915372
Is it just a model m shell?
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>>53915421
Tip top post pham
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Who else waiting for Chink Boards

>tfw ordered one almost a month ago
> I bet the Zorro Blue switches are going to be shit
>Accidentally got Blue leds instead of white
>Actually I want black switches too
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Just got 3 typewriters. All of them have vintage Cherry MY switches, which are shit, but also thick pbt keycaps. They were like 20€ each, so I'm pretty happy. The keycaps are taking a bath right now
>>53915372
HHKB?
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>>53915421

tell me anon, do you slice holes in your chair while sitting?
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holyyyy shitt whyy is my keyyyboard doing ttthis?

Send help
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>>53915463
There's nothing edgy about that you European retard, it's just the truth.
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>>53915459
i'm waiting for some cherry keycaps to match these typewriter keys
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Is topre actually good? Why do people like it? Is it actually worth while? Is it true that they're just glorified rubber domes and people only pretend to/ force themselves to enjoy it because the hhkb is $250? Explain the meme.
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>>53915476

of course not, they just magically appeared
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>>53915480
Shut up QB. Everyone is tired of you and Nick. I'm amazed your little aspergian attention starved mind didn't force you to put a fire arm in this image. I own guns, I have an 870mcs and an ar-15 but I don't fucking post them in every fucking thread because I know that this isn't the time or place for that, people here aren't interested in our guns, they're interested in mother fucking keyboards. So posting your guns just makes you look like a retarded fucking faggot, which you are.
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>>53915372
Almost 80% sure its a cherry
Looks like a cherry gxx(80 i guess) wkl
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>>53915467
Hello pls halp

A restart didn't fix it. It used to be only the t but I thought I was just making typos but the y is ridiculous all of a sudden (this is a corrected text)

Like I tyyyyype like this
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>>53915494
you really just have to try it
but yeah, it's just a better rubber dome
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>>53915504
You need to go back to tumblr dude. Between the fucking band of homosexual retards posting their gross gangly aids infected legs, Nick (the most retarded man alive) and QB posting their guns, and you tumblr idiots, this board is becoming a real shit show of autism and really unenjoyable circle jerk threads.
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>>53915556
Then why would I spend 200+ dollars on this? Explain it QB.
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>>53915494
Its japanese company and just a slider over dome mechanism the spring doesnt do anything special but registing the keyand add like 5g force. I love topre personally
Also realforce > hhkb imo
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>>53915542

Check the cable leads inside the case, and look for any exposed wires touching. Are you using any kind of converter?
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>>53915557

I didn't think it was possible to embody your own insults so well in a post. Bravo, anon.
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>>53915576
OK well the fact that it's Japanese means nothing to me, I'm actually pretty sure thats why it sells so much, because the retarded weeaboos of /g/ and Reddit buy gook shit just by merit of being from the epic anime island. So is it like rubber dome or not?
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>>53915577
I - what?

A converter from what to what?

Also I don't think my keyboard has cables inside it, the last time I checked.
I checked the switch under the y but doesn't seem to be broken or dirty
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>>53915522
well i wasn't but now i will
:^

>>53915575
well thats up to you
some people really like it
i really like it for playing games
you can always return it
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>>53915595
Cool attempt at trying to make a good post tumblr dude, but alas, it made no sense and was retarded, similar to all retarded Europeans whom try to post here.
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>>53915576
It is like rubberdone but waaay way nicer. That its japanese just means that the cost is generally higher for us nonjaps because of import costs and stuff thats why I said that
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>>53915538
Aye.
>that guy who said it was a model M
Fuck outta here

Still wish it actually was a model M, already have a G80
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>>53915607
I didn't buy it yet. I'm just asking is it really just rubber domes, and if so why is it so highly regarded other than the fact that it's epically Japanese =^o^=
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>>53915602

So it's a wireless keyboard? Really?
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>>53915631
Meant for >>53915601
Also you can get like 80% of what you paid back if you dont like it most of the time sometimes even more
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>>53915607
At least you have nice guns and are sort of funny. Nick is just an ugly and unbearable retard.
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>>53915645
Its pretty easy to see but I havent really used one before so I wasnt 100% sure
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>>53915627

How do you even sit without falling through the floor? The sheer weight of that autism must be awful.
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>>53915631
See this is my problem with topre people, how is it waaaay nicer? Because there's more force to actuation? Is there better tactile feedback? What makes these a superior tactile switch as compared to something like MX clears? Is there a real reason other than the meme hype and autistic 4chan mentallity of craving attention and needing to be included in everything?
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>>53915702
All you can do is say "you're autistic XD" because I made fun of you for being a retard, and explained why you're a fucking retard. This is just making you look even more retarded.
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>>53915631
hhkbs are like $230 on jap amazon

>>53915649
yeah, it is a rubber dome
but it's got a spring to snap it back up more positively
the actuation point is also higher
it's really hard to explain how it feels, besides that it's just a better rubber dome

>>53915704
you really just have to try it
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>>53915656
No it's a razor black widow.

I thought you meant cables inside the case.

The USB cable is fine if that's what you mean
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>>53915722

Did you slice through your reading skills on the way down?
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>>53915737
Oh lmao. Well you're fucked then. It's probably dead.
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>>53915737
what I meant was, open up the case and check where the USB cable attaches to the board. see if any wires are exposed inside the case.
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>>53915761
The slicing thing doesn't make sense and is only funny to you. I'm sorry I made you mad by saying that your tumblr images are gay and not funny, that doesn't change the fact that you're an unfunny European retard.
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>>53915789

And your sense of humor? What a shame, you seemed like such a great contributor.
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>>53915806
Calling you a retarded baby (which you are lmao) is funny enough.
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>>53915704
I like how people just make up thing to make topre people look like what they want. Its like a coffee is $4 and a lot of people say that topre coffee tastes better but costs $14. How does it taste better? Dont know you should try to know what we mean, you might have a dolifferent opinion at the end some people dont like coffee at all its all a cas of trying
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Memeboard
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>>53915811
Hmmmm... Try speaking English.
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>>53915811
Also $250 is way too much just to try a piece of 4chan meme merch. They should make a sampler kit or something.
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>>53915834
There is a sampler kit you dense fuck.

Take a look at the cooler master switch tester v2, or a realforce keychain on ebay. Geez.
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>>53915819
Maybe tomorrow
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>>53915809

10/10, I'll leave you to your autism sharpening session.
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>>53915834
It isnt 4chan meme
They are loved in japan dt gh /mk/ and /mkg/
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Should I? Seller is asking $35, apparently it uses (vintage?) cherry clears. It probably wont work on modern computers anyway, but Im curious about how worn clears would feel.
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>>53915844
Listen. Listen to me you fucking meme loving cunt, that was extremely uncalled for, all you had to do was tell me they exist, you DID NOT have to shatter my fragile feelings with your words.
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>>53915885
I'm sorry anon. I botched three solder pads on the PCB of a keyboard so I'm in a not very amazing mood.

My apologies, I still love you anon.
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>>53915883

you can still desolder them, if it's cheap you'll have a nice donor board
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>>53915871
Japan: the 4chan meme country.
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>>53915542
Download EK switch hitter and test the keys. Your Y switch probably has chattering and needs replacement.
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>>53915914
For /a/ and such
For /g/ its another story
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>>53915494
>people only pretend to/ force themselves to enjoy it because the hhkb is $250
Nice meme
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>>53915897
Thank you anon, I know how it feels to fuck up at soldering, I used to be really bad at soldering and brazing until I went to welding school, now it's pretty easy.
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>>53915951
I could said the same to you, hhkb owner.
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>>53915970
Could say the same to you poor guy why even bother with mkg ehen you cab get a keyboard for 5 dollar :^}
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>>53915522
>870 MCS
Yeah, no you don't. Unless you're an LEO you're not going to touch an MCS in your lifetime. Chances are you've got a shitty 870 Express with a nice coating of rust on it from sitting in a safe
>AR-15
Probably some trash ass PSA build.

>>53915575
It's something you either love or hate and so most people are willing to gamble. The resale value on Topre is also pretty high, so while it's a gamble it's not like you're going to lose more than like $50 if you decide you don't like it after a few days of typing.

>>53915736
HHKBs are only like $206 on EKB
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>>53915970
I don't own a hhkb. The layout doesn't appeal to me. Are you so far up your own ass that people who like different things can only do so if they're lying to themselves?
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who FFFFFFFF here?
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>>53915991
oh right, i didn't look hard enough
the cheapest i can find on amazon.jp is $180
it costs us $26 more, i don't think that's so bad
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>>53916124
Yeah that's not all that bad when you consider shipping fees are likely encompassed in the EKB price.
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>>53915480
That set is very nice as well and I'd get one of these any day for a reasonable price. Are all of the keys doubleshot, or only the WoG ones?
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My varmilo VB87M just arrived :)

Now I have to find a compatible bluetooth dongle, as my chink $2 one does not seem to work.
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>>53916212
all of the typewriter keys are doubleshot
they look cherry profile, and i'm pretty sure they're made by cherry
the typewriter switches are cherry m9
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>>53916089
Do you like it?
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>>53916474

Love the click and solid feel, my housemates hate me though..loudest keyboard ever
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>spending $200 on a rubberdome keyboard with a conical spring in it.

LMAO
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The capslock LED is on all the time now, but at least it works.
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>>53916674
Take out the led dofus
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>>53916666
T H I S
H
I
S
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>>53916674
you need to use about ten times less solder. see the factory solders for a reference.
if you think you need to add more solder to make it work what you really need is just more flux.
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>>53916666
Nice quads. Also do you mean the model M that everyone here goes over 9000 over? They look like pieces of junk
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Hi mkg, I want to give my keycaps a bath. Tips on temperature/detergent/time?
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>>53917044
as long as you don't dip them in concentrated acid or something, it doesn't really matter.
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>>53915494
It's different from cherry. I personally like it more than brown/black/red switches (didnt try others).
HHKB is not the only keyboard with Topre switches. I bought NT for 170$.
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>>53917062
And temperature? I'm scare about shrinking ;-;
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>mfw new model M arrived
>mfw old one 80% fixed
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>>53915988
Learn English retard
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>>53916011
They're pretending to enjoy rubber domes, you don't have to be up your own ass to realize that, retard.
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>>53917184

but it's not even cold outside, anon. stop with excuses!
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>>53917184
what? seriously, unless you live outdoors at the fucking north pole, it doesn't matter.
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>>53917192

did you order the parts from Unicomp or use a donor?

got a rusted ass SSK, and am thinking about making an FSSK with a broke donor XT
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>>53917193
Obvious typos didnt bother changing because of shitty phonescreen typing
You stupid american
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>>53917319
well the broke one had mild to medium water damage but fortunately no rust so I didn't have to get any new parts
it came down to putting bolts, which was a chore in itself, now I'm adjusting them to get all keys to register

the new model M has iso layout so I'm going to use caps from the old one which was ansi to convert it and use it until the old one is fixed 100%
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>>53917408

was the bolt modding as painful as everyone keeps telling me? I'm worried about cracking the barrel plate or going off-angle
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Who HANA here?

Jesus I don't even know where I'll be living come late August. I hope Assflop lets you change addresses after the drop ends.
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whats a good mechanical keyboard with:
>a metal backplate
>a braided cable
>cherry mx red's
>white/rgb backlighting
and preferably
>on a site that allows easy customisation
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>>53917681
they'll probably let you change it if you contact them about it
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>>53917790
>a metal backplate
Pretty much every keyboard nowadays

>a braided cable
Why? Just buy one from pexon or from one of the hundred people that sell custom cables

>cherry mx red's
>linear
>any year

>on a site that allows easy customisation
What do you call customisation? You already chose pretty much everything about the keyboard, what is left to customize?
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>>53917566
yooo that's rusty mate
well the one I drilled was made in 86, I drilled it freehand on a flat surface and it came out pretty nice and with no cracks

I gotta say though, I have quite some drilling experience and I did it in stages, not drilling right away

first I took a chisel and removed old plastic rivets flush with the plate
then I took soldering iron and made little indents where drill would go
then I drilled it with drill 0.2 mm thinner than the target one
then with the target bit
then cleaned it with chisel again

once you vacuum it or clean it whatever manner you find fitting you can start putting in the screws, which is a pain in the ass because they come in between barrels where you can't really hold them with your fingers so so forceps and such are your friend

if you can't drill that well nobody will force you to drill it all in one day, take it slow and make good holes
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I love reds and hate browns.

Will I like blues?
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>>53917896
no one knows because your taste is shit.
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>>53917875
wasdkeyboards has plastic matte shit
every other website in the guide sells only plastic matte shit

i dont want to buy 2 seperate things with 2 seperate postage times just because i dont want a flimsy ugly plastic wire thats gonna break after folding itba few times

customisable as in choose my own keycaps, without having to use a third party
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>>53916980
oh shit i got quads, there for my opinion is 1000% true.

also the model m is still dope.
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>>53917925
wow anon, you sure are stupid.
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>>53917904
Only plebs who can't type for shit hate reds because they're much easier to press and therefore dumbfucks who make a lot of mistakes have trouble with it. Literally git gud.
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Fuck this shit.

Fuck desoldering.

I'm just going to get a teensy and wire this myself.
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>>53917980
nice ad hominem buddy

show me a mechanical keyboard that doesnt have a plastic body, on a website that allows choosing its parts and ill suck your dick
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>>53917925
>buying wasd keycaps

Literally retarded.
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>>53918117
go back to your special plastic ball so your feelings dont get hurt
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>>53917894

welp, I need to get some decent bits and I'll give it a go. thanks much for the help
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>>53918108
lol, are you talking about the keyboard case? Every keyboard has a steel backplate, the plastic case goes on top of that.

If you want a metal case, you have to buy a custom separated one, like the varmilo or filco aluminum case.

To my knowledge, only Pok3r, Cherry MX 6.0 and VA68M come with factory aluminum cases.
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>>53918269
fucking thank you. ive owned only 2 mechanical keyboards. a chink one with a plastic case that broke after a few months and a chink metal one that still works to this day

its a kkmoon tenkeyless for anyone interested
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>>53918108

even the cheap ass team wolf boards on amazon have metal cases now (60-70 bux shipped)
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>>53918304
>what is basic googling skills
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>>53918014
mad because shit taste.
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>>53918362
mad because has to look to the keyboard to type
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>>53918372
not really anon. what childhood trauma led you to use gaymer switches?
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>>53918406
actually knowing how to touch type properly did
I bet you have a backlit keyboard as well otherwise you can't type in the dark
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>>53917184
You should be more concerned about warping in hot water.
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>>53918437
it's funny how you keep making up insults to defend your shit taste.
you can bet all you want, i don't have backlighting because i don't have shit taste, much unlike you.
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>>53918577

but you do have autism, and you can't teach that.
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>>53918598
top tier insult gaymer-bro.
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/reds/2cumfy
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Finally got around to swapping the space bar. Also trying an all black function row.

And now I wait for RGB modifiers.
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>>53919175
it looks great like this, don't ruin it with the windows rgb scheme.
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This little slut was delivered today, I love it. UK layout is definitely the best I've used.
4 Model M's in total now, all I need is an M13 and a SSK

The coiled cable on this was all stretched to shit so I ran another cable through the coil, pulled coil tight together and heated it with a hair drier. It fucking worked :D
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So the WASD v2 is a good option if I want something with greens, right? (I don't care about keycap quality, I already ordered some nice ones from Massdrop.)
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>>53919326
whats this "wasd has bad keycaps" meme?
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>>53919326
yeah
it's got metal plate mounted switches and the case looks alright with no logos

i don't like the usb micro placement, but it's fine i guess
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>>53919211
I mostly want the included red blank escape key. I might sell the rest.
It should perfectly match the rest in both material and profile.
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>>53919363
thin pad printed ABS
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>>53919363
Thin ABS. Not exclusive to WASD, but they give you the option of buying without caps, so you should take it.
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>>53919416
are they really that bad? how fast woulf they break?
which would you recommend instead?
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>>53919363
anything that isn't "thick" doubleshot PBT is apparently shit tier now

that said, why bother getting WASD custom keycaps if you're just going to print ordinary legends on them...
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>>53919429
lighter keycaps just give a different feel/sound, the only other concern is that ABS keycaps will wear slightly/get shiny eventually
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>>53919429
they don't break
they just feel like shit compared to thicker caps
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>>53919511
>>53919500
oh then theres no reason not to get WASD ones. thanks!
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>>53919524
no i guess not
but mkg is going to make fun of you

get something neat printed on them
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>>53919481
Doubleshot PBT is shit though. Legends are always warped, because PBT just isn't made for doubleshots.
Dyesubbed PBT or thick doubleshot ABS.
Also thin ABS/PBT is ok, but it has to be cheap. WASD is like 50$ and offers nothing.
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>>53919572
>Dyesubbed PBT or thick blank PBT

Fixd for ya
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>>53919605
I got some ~20 year old Alps doubleshot keycaps two days ago. The previous owner was a heavy smoker and the laptop looks and smells like fucking shit. But the ABS-Doubleshots are still fine.
Funny thing is, there were some Dyesubbed PBT keycaps on that laptop as well and I wasn't able to distinguish them at all.
So no, I don't think that ABS is shit in general.
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what is the best 60% board for a poorfag?
i have no more then 80€ to spend on a keyboard
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>>53915372
Classic G80 caps on a new G80? Yay/nay?
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what's the consensus on buying from wasd?

i keep hearing the keycaps are shit but i like the customization option, they have iso which i need and they're relatively cheap for where i live
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>>53919731
just get the Magicforce 68 like everyone else
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Ty for cleaning support, it's looking smexy again
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>>53920146
Buy an iso board barebones and an Iso keyset from vortex then.
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Just found out that Massdrop has finally answered my prayers and added an optional ISO kit to the blank PBT keycaps they keep selling. Fuck yes.
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>>53920230
>blues
looks like someone's pussy girl fingers can't handle greens

(i am joking)
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Does anyone know where I can get a blank pbt set of the popular beige/gray set that keeps popping up in an OEM profile? All the ones I see are the cherry/gateron profile, which feel too weird for me. Or does this not exist?
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My QFR-i just shipped. Would it be stupid if I put backlight-incompatible keycaps on a backlit board? The typefaces on backlit caps are retarded.
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>>53921151
now there's no problem
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I'm a faggot
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>>53920852
Beige is a "retro" color so they usually try to mimic the old Cherry sets to sell better.
I recall feng having some OEM profile PBT but he's busy moving back to China. After doing a quick search I've come up with nothing, sorry anon.
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>>53921232
i want something like this too but im not for gay pride

wat do
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>>53921349
Just do it? If you wanna do it don't bother with what other people think.
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>>53919314
cute
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>>53921363
i will, maybe not a straight up rainbow but yeah
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>>53917566
Jesus fuck, what have you done to that poor, poor thing?
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>>53919815
Shit is sexy
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>>53921352
makes me wonder if WASD would figure it out as they were making it

took me a sec
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>>53915991

I have a SBR Mossberg 590
/shrug
It's just a $200 tax stamp, not a big deal for him to have a MCS.
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>>53915607

>keymod
>cage code sticker
>anti-walk pins
>tryhard rattlecan camo
>omg i rattlecanned my ar15 just like a JSOC commando in the field

tell me how many ar15.com memes did you swallow whole, i'm amazed you don't have a 45 degree safety and a little red billet mag release on there you fucking faggot
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>>53921232
So am I but I'm not going to do that to my keyboard. That being said, it doesn't look too bad.
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am I /mkg/ yet? :3

I want to build an Ergodox. I think I like greens or blues best.
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>>53915607

actually i see dillos now so yes you are definitely an arfcom retard, congratulations
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>>53921763
I'm not saying he can't have a tax stamp, but last time I checked the MCS is part of Remington's MIL/LEO line, which means it's not available to civilians (like the Remington ACR).
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>>53921833

if he wants a branded KAC masterkey enough to shell out 3k for it, there are plenty of them floating around the NFA market. there's fucking MASS shotguns available for 4-5k.

you're just paying for the name at that point vs just SBSing your own shotgun and calling it a masterkey and still being 100% correct.

being an autist about the manufacturer is like saying that only Colt makes ar15s, so don't be that faggot.

for example when i bought my DD, i didn't give a shit that LMT made it and not Colt.
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>>53921833
they're on gunbroker, but for very unreasonable prices
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>>53921868

i rest my case.

and you put a muzzle brake on it instead of a flash hider?

how weak do your pencil arms have to be in order to need a brake on a 5.56 rifle? or are you one of those faggot attention whores who likes to be incredibly loud at the range

larue is fun to trigger into spergrage on arfcom that's basically the only good thing about him, that and i copied his marketing techniques (give free cheap stuff to retards to build brand loyalty) to make good money in my work life.
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>>53921899

>damage control.jpg

You guys have autism confirmed. I'm going to start posting my Noveske gas piston pistol with my antique hardware. Wait, nope, I'm not on the spectrum. Crap.
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for a moment I thought I accidentally ended up on /k/, but then I realized it's just retards.
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>>53921963
Yeah, this thread has gone to shit.
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>>53919524
they feel really sticky aswell i made the mistake of buying from there and i will never do it again
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>>53921896
As I've said before and will say agai: if it's not an AK-47, don't call it an AK-47. It would've been easier to just leave off the MCS half of 870 and avoid calling it a proper designation. If he doesn't have an 870 to MCS spec, which I doubt he does, then don't call it an MCS. I'm sure it's just an Express and he just didn't think that MCS was a massive modifier.

Calling an 870 Express an MCS is not 100% correct unlike calling a cutdown 870 a master key. There's a big difference and it's pretty damn likely he doesn't know what it is.

What do you mean your DD?

>>53921899
Really? Damn.

>>53921955
I'm not saying he can't have an 870 MCS based on the manufacturer, but what are the chances he's got an 870 pattern shotgun in MCS configuration?
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>>53921812
Remember that pressing 1 button feels easier than continue typing
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>>53922012
Are you saying that I've got weak, girly fingers?
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>>53921963
>>53921972
Just report them for off-topic posting and move on.
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I thought shit would be easier with a PCB.

Ended up ordering a teensy and a whole lot of diodes and wire.
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>>53922061
what are you making?
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>>53922079
Probably a keyboard
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>>53922116
yes but what kind of keyboard
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>>53922079
Got a memeforce early this afternoon, tried to desolder some switches and ended up ripping off three pads in the process, effectively bricking parts of the switch matrix. After various attempts at fixing this shit I gave up and decided that I'd just handwire it with a teensy and put it in the case.

What perplexes me is how easily this thing got fucked. I've put my Ducky Shine 4 PCB through worse and it still works perfectly fine.

So now I'll be making a memeforce with gateron clears (reds and blacks for certain keys) that's handwired and fully programmable with a teensy.
Was anyway about time that I'd get familiar with the TMK firmware.
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>>53922152
Nope, the WASR is an AKM variant.

870 Express is not an MCS in terms of finish, furniture, barrel length, and everything else really. It's not the same, how very astute of you.

Your DD then would be an M203 then, and LMT makes them to the same spec as KAC and Colt, unlike the WASR compared to an AK-47 or an 870 Express compared to an MCS. What you're saying is more like calling a Spikes Tactical Havoc an M203.
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>>53922177
How can you fuck up soldering?
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>>53922177
oh, those come with kailh switches don't they?

i've got to learn how to solder considering i've got two kit borads from massdrop coming (in a few months or more :'^)
i should try changing the switches on the WASD v2 i bought, reds are kinda gay
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>>53916980
No he means a Topre Realfoce.
>hating on the Model M, that's famous for being THE Keyboard by many enthusiasts, not only /g/
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>>53922224
Beats me, I tried to desolder the switches and as I pulled them out it pulled off the whole solder pad. I've done the same to my Shine 4 and it was no problem at all.

I'm not very amazing at soldering, but I still have no idea how that happened. I've desoldered a whole AEK II and I did not rip off a single pad in the process.

>>53922259
I think there's various variants of it. Some have backlighting and dip-switches on the back, some come with kalih and some with outemu (and there's a version with cherries available).

The one I got was with outemu blues. They sound nice, but the tactile bump is far too weak for my taste. Outemu should make greens.
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>>53922224
It's pretty easy, actually. You have no idea how easy it is to fuck something up when you've got no clue what you're doing.
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>>53922259
Mine came with awesome Outemu's
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>>53922177
Why do have 99% of modern keyboards pig disgusting, edgy ricer fonts?
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>>53922315
Probably to appeal to the gaymen crowd. It also has floating key design, which is a great way to save on costs and also appeal to the aformentioned demographic.
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>>53922296
are you using a solder pump?

god damn this wasd has the worst case desing for disassembly

>>53922364
easier to blow out dorito dust too :^
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>>53922177
Go practice soldering on some old hardware, you don't know what you're doing if you end up ripping off pads.
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>>53922315
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. I enjoy the font on my HHKB and a bit less on my Filco, but shit like in >>53922177 has both a horrible don't and color. I want my lettering to stand out and look professional or be nonexistent.
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>>53922404
>are you using a solder pump?
Yup, though I feel like it isn't quite working like it should. Was a blast last time I used it, this time around it most of the time just sucks up half the solder and leaves the rest in a puddle that it doesn't manage to remove no matter what.

>>53922444
I desoldered a whole AEK II without any issues. Maybe I should get a new solder pump.
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>>53922509
might be the pump but might also be the heating, solder can differ a lot from factory to factory and if you use too little heat you will end up breaking shit.
in all honesty, I don't understand why people prefer pumps over hot air, air is so much easier.
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>>53922560
>hot air
I'll have to look into this.

And yeah, I feel like the solder with this thing was quite different from what I've dealt with before. I had to set my pump to 400 degrees or so to even melt the stuff properly.

On the note of which, I made the experience burning yourself with a 350 degree hot piece of metal. Don't hold your soldering iron with your mouth while fumbling right in front of it with your hands. Put it on the table or wherever it won't get in your way.
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>>53922509
>tfw only majorly poorfag soldering station
Ignore the nigger rig PCB pls
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>>53922623
My soldering station is by far not as fancy as it looks. The iron's good but I'm missing smaller bits since I only have a single one. The desoldering pump is borrowed from a friend, I'll be returning it sometime soon once I've done something for another friend. Though I do plan on getting another one sometime later.
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>>53922710
Desoldering pump is probably nice as fug, desolder wick is just a damn pain to use.
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>>53922623
sup bro
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>>53922786
Probably a basic chinese sodering iron. Or did you get yours from Conrad too?
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>>53922818
I got it from Kjell & Co (Swedish company)
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>>53922847
yeah, I guess Conrad is a similar store, just in germany.
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>>53922611
hot air is as easy to use as sliced bread.
regarding 400 though, it's possible you would've simply needed a bulkier tip for the iron.
also, if you don't have a stand for your iron you're just asking to get hurt.
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I know razer has a bad rep, but for a first time mechanical keyboard, would there be anything too wrong with getting this for £70? (Razer Blackwidow Tournament) I want to save money and looking around at stuff like Poker II, just seems too expensive for what I will ultimately get out of the keyboard.
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>>53923116
get a cheap chinese one

kkmoon has some nice ones
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>>53923116
depends on the version.
I have the tournament stealth with orange kailh switches and it feels really meh, the keycaps come off by themselves while typing pretty fast or playing games (osu!mania)
wouldn't recommand it but hey it's still better than rubber domes I guess
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>>53923116
>razer
>tkl
>ricer font
>nonstandard key sizes
>chink switches
>that for 70 GBP

10/10 on the trash level
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>>53923116
I have one

The big problems for me

(other have reported this as well) the rubber feet on the bottom are not the same height so it's uneven
the non-standard bottom row
The switches (kalih) are bad at gripping the plate. If I try to "move" them there's some millimeter of sway. I have actually replaced the switches in my with Gaterons and they don't have the same sway.

You should try a Magicforce 68 from Amazon uk it's like £40 and has better switches (Outemu)
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Well looks like my habit of always feeling up old keyboards when I see them has paid off today. I managed to pick this up for free. I'm picking up an AT to PS2 adapter to see if it works.
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>>53923534
>ansi shift
>iso enter
wtf is going on here.
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>>53923586
>big fat enter key
>ISO
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>>53923586
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Monterey_K104
I have no idea what they were thinking.
Part of me is tempted to hunt down some new PBT keycaps for it, but I can't justify getting keycaps for a board that I probably won't use as my daily driver, given what I assume is its 2KRO.
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So I've tried MX Blues at the store before, but the only boards I've owned have been a RealForce 87UB and a CM Quickfire Rapid with Browns. Holy shit, clicky keys are LOUD. Not that it bothers me, but it caught me off guard just how much more vocal it was compared to my other boards.

Being my first time using a board with switches this heavy, I have to say, the 70g actuation on this feels just fine. Now my 55g Topre feels like a light-weight mush in comparison. Life is pain.
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>>53923116
I used to have one, lasted a good 4 years before several keys started chattering and I had to sell it because I don't know how to solder

But that was back when they were using genuine cherry switches

It's pretty heavy fwiw, and the caps and switches were totally alright.
The ricer layout, well.
One thing to be noted though, if you plan to buy a razer don't, for the love of God, don't install their spyware botnet piece of shit software/driver, which should be reason enough to boycott them in the first place

Isn't something like a ducky zero an option? It's also quite cheap
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>>53924029
It's funny because I'm a real pussy and can't even stand people typing on a laptop next to me, yet blues at home are perfectly fine
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>>53919380
I think your keyboard is neat
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Finally done
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>>53924620
did you buy them from zeal PC?
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>>53924647
Yea, those are R2 78g
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>>53924682
how long did that take?
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>>53922509
Is the memeforce PCB double-sided? That would explain the difference from dessoldering old boards, or modern non-backlit boards. Single sided pcbs are way easier to dessolder.
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>>53924620
What keyboard is that? Is that a aluminum case?
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>>53924949
should be ducky mini
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>>53924620
>not placing the led inside the zealio
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>>53924930
I wouldn't say that has pretty much any effect on desoldering.
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>>53924949
yep as >>53924981 said, Ducky mini. And yes it's a aluminum case
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>>53924989
bro I don't have any other leds than those included with the board
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just ordered a rosewill apollo mx brown

am i cool enough to fit in here?
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>>53925209
>rosewill apollo
LEDs are pleb tier, but the board is a respectable entry level otherwise.
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>>53925276
yes i'm not a fan of LEDs. in fact i was going to ask how to disable them once i have it
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>>53925084
It obviusly does. Double sided PCBs have pads on both sides as well in the middle. If any solder remain, you will fuck everything when pulling the switch.
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All your keyboards are way too clean. Am I right to assume that you merely collect them to show them off and never do any kind of work on them?
My 1985 Model M is pretty banged up from decades of use, still going strong. I type about 3000 - 4000 words on it every day at least (I work as a translator).
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>>53925303
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBQZKFS/ref=twister_B00UMZ2R2W?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Why didn't you just get this?
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>>53925372
$20 more expensive than the deal i found
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>>53925383
Ah, that's reasonable then.
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>>53925331
no one with half a brain does two-side pads for leds.
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>>53925429
nor switches, I forgot which one the anon above was having trouble with. it makes no sense for those components.
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>>53925333
Most of us are pretty anal about cleanliness around our keyboards. No eating, especially snacks, unless you use chopsticks.

I also use a little paint brush to clean my keyboard every couple days, and every 10-12 months I take the caps off and do a more thorough cleaning.

And obviously if your caps are PBT, that can add to the resistance to wear.
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>>53925466
I eat random shit everywhere all the time and I also use my keyboard right after I've used moisturizer on my hands.
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>>53925459
Pretty much every backlit board has double sided pcb, like in the picture. Same with some nice non-backlit ones, like Kuls and Filcos.
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>>53925608
And here some regular single sided ones, as comparison.
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>>53917192
finished transplanting stems and caps from old M to the new one,
jesus was the new one filthy underneath, I swear I cleaned a fistful of lint and other garbage but beyond that it's in pristine condition, no spots or snagged springs, nothing.

Converted it from ISO to ANSI and I ended up with no keycaps for the \| keys so I took the umlaut keys the new one came with and put those on instead so I have two dumb smileys there, a :O one and U umlaut one
I think it's quite cute actually

anyway it's good to be back on buckling spring again

t. typed from model M ca. 1993
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pleb here. help me get a keyboard for vidya, i dont want meme "gamer" stuff

i got no real budget but would rather avoid going over expensive

i need me a full mechanical ANSI keyboard with either black/red switches. honestly don't know shit about good keyboards so here i am asking for help
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>>53925333
I can't speak for everyone but I'd say you're wrong. It's really not all that hard to keep your keyboard clean so long as you're not a complete slob. Some people don't eat at their computer, but once again so long as you're not a child you should be able to eat cleanly. Most people here seem to clean their keyboard(s) often enough to wipe out all the nasty shit. Personally I usually hit it with canned air once a day and then clean it out at the end of the month so it doesn't get too disgusting.

>>53925485
>Moisturizer
Horrifying. I hate using moisturizer normally, but I can't imagine using it then clacking away on a keyboard. Gives me the chills.
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>>53926137
>help me get a keyboard for vidya, i dont want meme "gamer" stuff
Then you just want a keyboard.
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>>53926237
well yeah but good enough for what i do
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>>53926266
Just get a cooler master or something if you want a basic mechanical.
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>>53926266
good enough for what you do is a simple 10 dollar rubberdome.
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>>53924620
Nice!

Now replace them with browns. :^)
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im gonna get a hhkb
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>>53921389

started to repair it? I have a stack of clean ones, this was the only rusted one of the bunch
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>>53927894
Na man I have a brown board. I really like the smoothness of these babies
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I'm looking for a basic ten key less keyboard.
Would the Corsair Vengeance K65 be good? It has good reviews..
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>>53928160
I remember hearing that the K60/65 werent 100 percent mechanical. Had rubber domes for arrow keys and modifiers. So watch out for that. Another basic TKL would be a Coolermaster Quickfire Rapid.
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