Reviews are in:
http://isitvr.com/2016/04/06/htv-vive-reviews-need/
Every review bottom line seems uncertain about the Vive. Lets hope this thing makes valve release Half Life 3 so they can sell it!
I don't think the market for VR is not gonna be gaming for now, maybe in 2-3 years when the devices are smaller and cheaper.
>>53897120
Maan if they have to release HL3 just to sell that piece of plastic...
>>53897120
>Kotaku
>viable news source
>>53897120
Vive DOA until some games get released
>>53897120
it's a gimmick
>>53897120
>>53897153
Most of the stuff that currently exists are just more or less demos, but there are some games that are actually pretty good.
The thing is that this technology is obviously pretty new, and with both the vive and the rift hitting the market more developers will have the chance to get to work, so imo your guess with 2-3 years should be pretty accurate.
Although, I have to say, all the games I have tried so far are pretty awesome, I spent 2 hours in job simulator doing 2 of the 4 'levels' and it was nothing but fun.
Audioshield is also nice and has endless potential because you can use your own music, which works surprisingly well.
>>53897572
>Poorfags say this
>>53897585
DUDE you got the Vive ?
How is it? What setup are you using?
and can you watch videos or movies with it ?
It's a gimmick like the 3D televisions, nobody wants to strap things to their face for hours a day
It might find some cool niche uses for education and professional stuff but for entertainment I think many of them are going to be collecting dust on peoples' shelves
>>53897623
Yep I received it yesterday.
I use a 2m x 2m room-scale setup.
I bought virtual desktop, which enables you to render your acutal screens in a 3d space, in there you can watch videos with it (there's also a cinema-like space you can use which projects your screen in there, which is pretty neat.
In virtual desktop you can also watch 3d videos (off of youtube or off of your drive, if you have any) or look at 3d pictures.
>>53897697
Got any good cuck porn yet?
>>53897645
>nobody wants to strap things to their face for hours a day
That depends on how it actually feels, the vive is REALLY comfortable to wear, I have spent about 6 hours without break having it on without problems.
>>53897716
VR (..cuck..) porn sucks.
I have downloaded some demos and they are not up to scale so people look like they're 50m giants.
Maybe vr porn games will do the trick but there are none for the vive so far.
>>53897697
SO COOOOOOOLLLLLLL
So is there a need for having a monitor ?
I wanna get rid of my giant monitors and just use one 20 inch one and do all the other fun stuff on a VR headset.
>>53897731
finally a product for people with Giant women fetishes
>>53897585
>The thing is that this technology is obviously pretty new, and with both the vive and the rift hitting the market more developers will have the chance to get to work,
actually the tech has been around since the 90s (i used it then). The problem is no one has been able to even conceptualize a killer app
Need decent omni directional running, jumping, crouching and sitting with VR. Then it'll be perfect. There's a few platforms that do this right now, but it's all preorder.
Wait, so games have to be compatible? I cant just get the latest piece of shit cod or cs and play in 3d?
>>53897742
What virtual desktop does is capturing your real monitors and project them in the 3d environment.
So I guess if you could somehow have 'fake monitors' that would work but unless you get that to work you still need your monitor(s).
>>53897766
yay
>>53897769
I know that some form of VR has existed for a pretty long time now, but actual VR headsets like these will make the difference.
Room-scale VR is so fucking amazing that you don't really want to leave it because it is so fucking immersive.
Imagine having your all time favorite game, you always 'looked at' through a 'window'.
Now imagine you standing in the middle of it, able to move around look around and 'touch' stuff.
>>53897789
For room scale yes, for other games you could render the game twice and have one viewport offset to the left and the other offset to the right and then control the head movement with the hmd.
AFAIK there is software being developed that does this, I don't know how far they are with that or how soon that will actually be released.
>>53897816
Thanks man, you seem very educated on the subject
>>53897816
>Imagine having your all time favorite game, you always 'looked at' through a 'window'.
>Now imagine you standing in the middle of it, able to move around look around and 'touch' stuff.
my favorite game is devil may cry 3/4 and fighters
>>53897860
not >>53897816
but you can use the vive controllers to punch stuff and do combos not just a joystick.
Now then, what's the real reason for hatin?
I've thought about the problems with VR in the past, and I've come to the conclusion that the biggest problem with current VR headsets is that you can't do cool diverolls. They're WAY too bulky to be doing some cool ninja shit.
>>53897860
Welp, I guess fighter could be pretty fun when you have to dodge shit etc, it would be a little slower in VR since you actually need to do shit with your body but it could be fun.
That's just speculating, of course, we need to wait for people to test these things.
>>53897910
Im worried about executing my roundhouse kicks tbqh
>>53897927
Vive can probably fix that with the camera, but the wire might get wrapped around you or some shit.
>>53897910
That's true, I mean you can strap the vive down pretty tight and it will not move at all no matter how you move (even upside down works) but doing really fast movements could be a problem.
Also the cord would suck for that.
>>53897910
Next year or 2 years from now when they release a slimmer wireless version of the products we can probably expect better games because of better controls
Most of you sound like you haven't read a single review of any VR Headset.
>>53897983
Kek
In a good or bad way?
>>53897989
Good because most of them are bad reviews because they are reviewing it as an ordinary new piece of tech
Bad because VR is the future and you may fall of the bandwagon
>>53898023
This.
I was actually worried that my vive isn't what I hoped for because of some reviews.
But now I'm so fucking happy with it!
(Also it encouraged me to get some shit out of my room that pretty much only blocked the way)
>>53898057
>room full of crap
>buy vive
>profit
>>53897120
I would be so butthurt if Valve released HL3 for the first-gen VR devices. It would inevitably be shit.
>>53898089
If I remember that correctly, valve has said that they probably won't have VR in their new games.
I can't really believe that tho.
But they wouldn't make it exclusive, also a shooter would most likely be a seated experience.
>>53898089
I would give a Kidney for a VR optimized half life
but the game has to have the quality of hl1 and 2 tho
>>53897120
Anybody have one and try using it for exercise yet? I'm most worried about lens fogging and once I get a comparison review I'll buy whichever is best for that
>>53898180
Well I didn't play with the target of exercising but the games can be exhausting.
I tend to begin sweating on my head and face before I do anywhere else, so my face was pretty sweaty after playing a while.
The lens did not get foggy and I had no problems with my vision or anything.
>>53898180
why would you use it for exercise?
>>53898258
Because it's fun, you nignog.
>>53898228
Thanks, that's probably about as good a review as I can expect for now. I really don't like the idea of stand-up VR without an omni or a cyberith and like the cyberith better but it is just way too pricy. I've been waiting since palmer first suggested a group buy on mtbs3d years ago. I can wait a bit more, at least until the next Gen of gpus
>>53898165
>"That's a big experience"
Are Nvidia gonna announce the new consumer GPUs today ? anyone have a clue ?
>>53897816
Ive never seen one, I have the $900 set aside, and a gtx980 4790k 20gb DDR3 setup, but I cant justify buying something so expensive without personally witnessing the tech. Any place in SoCal I could play with/test either the vive or rift?
>>53897816
>Now imagine you standing in the middle of it, able to move around look around and 'touch' stuff.
Ok this almost got me, there are a very few games that worked amazingly with 3dvision such as lego lotr or tomb raider underworld that almost seemed like I had plastic toys in front of me. Still, I'm going to wait for better hardware to appear both in vr and computing before making the jump.
Fuck you though, I got excited imagining.
>>53898381
>that photo
MY EYES
>>53897120
The way I see it there is just no genre of game that this is good for. Hear me out. The room scale and motion hand controllers are great but the big glaring issue is you can only walk a few steps. So for moving longer distances in-game you need to warp around or your character needs to walk while you stand still which ruins immersion and feels stupid. What about games where you are in a vehicle? The problem with the headset for driving games or flight sims or whatever is right now a traditional monitor is better for that. The resolution is just too low on the headset. For seeing the next corner on a track or the ground from your plane it's just too blurry. So what exactly is the Vive for? A game where you stand up and move around but don't go more than 3 feet or so, a genre which doesn't exist (for good reason). They are trying to make it exist with some of the launch titles but they are just silly tech demo type things like lmao job simulator.
Before you buy one of these things think long and hard about what you are going to play on it.
>>53897903
>but you can use the vive controllers to punch stuff and do combos not just a joystick.
>Now then, what's the real reason for hatin?
absolutely ridiculous for DMC / fighting games. I do so many actions per second and they're all ridiculous looking jumping in the air type shit
>>53898477
Mostly true, but even with the shitty res of DK1 when I strapped a hydra to my head and got it all configured right the ability to lean forward or right or left and turn your head to look into a turn on Dirt 3 was phenomenal.
>>53898477
This
The better resolution compared to oculus is a plus tho and if steam has their name plastered on it there should be continued game support at least for 2 years
>>53898519
I thought the resolution of both headsets were the same?
>>53898516
Mind you I also have a thrustmaster tr500s wheel, controllers kill racing games
>>53898513
Think of it as a music conductor
>>53898533
No, i think, they also have different view angles if someone could post the image of both devices you would better understand what i mean
>>53898623
>Think of it as a music conductor
Im not conducting an orchestra, I want to play DMC / fighters like they exist now, but even more visceral and faster
>>53898549
Dear god, I feel like a fast game with a slight latency on a controller and a slightly higher latency then on the headset would make me puke out of my brain and all my senses
>>53897120
YOU VR WAGGLAN' SON?
>>53898710
I mean subtle movements cause massive changes
you have 8 ot 15 buttons right now(idk how many) but once you have the ability to use your hands you can have an unlimited set of buttons to control whatever is on the screen
>>53898782
That doesnt make sense. DMC is a 5 button game. If I wanted "Subtle motion" I'd just move my thumbs like I already do.
>>53897120
3D that requires shit strapped to your face has always failed. No matter how hard it's pushed or how many people try it, it always ends up turning into a gimmick that lasts a few months before dying out.
tl;dr - check 'em
>>53898810
ffs THINK OF A MOUSE THE MOST PRECISE THING TO PLAY VIDYA ON
NOW THINK OF THE MOUSE IN 3D SPACE
bam superior controls
>>53898623
Pretty much the same raw resolution but Vive has a better FOV so that resolution is stretched out a bit more
>>53898477
>Before you buy one of these things think long and hard about what you are going to play on it.
Sounds perfect you porn.
Don't exactly need to move. Just sit there watch someone ride your virtual dick.
>>53898854
Nvidia on the VR ship too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmAhJO6Vp3Y
>>53898854
>NOW THINK OF THE MOUSE IN 3D SPACE
a mouse rests on a desk. Motion controls require flailing your arms around for hours on end. Subtle flicks of a vive controller are no better than having a dual shock that you can rest on your leg. Are you seriously not getting this ?!
>>53898927
Imagine playing this game with the Vive hngg
>>53898970
ok grandad radio is better
>>53898381
nice titty
>>53899012
mate, the fact is that motion controls for precise input like DMC / fighers have proven to be shit time and time again. What would you rather have when playing a figher : motion controls that you just flick about or a DPad?! If anything, motion controls are the radio
Does anyone want me to test anything with my vive?
>>53899115
You are right, they are really bad for those games, in order for them to be good the games have to be molded from the beginning to be played with them because you won't have more fun playing Tetris with motion controls just because you can flail your arms.
>>53899202
Like a game or what ?
>>53899232
Idk you tell me.
Currently looking for good 360 videos but can't really find any.
Snoopavision is funny tho.
>>53899250
http://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2016/04/05/play-steam-game-vr-theater-htc-vive/?utm_content=buffer028f8&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
I envy you so much, so fking much
>>53899217
the only thing vive is better at is seated racing / space sim
>>53899250
Xstory please.
>>53899306
First thing that pops out when googling Xstory is a website called VRtitties :D
>>53899334
Xstory player from xmoon productions.
>>53899365
So, it really is VR Titties.
>>53899391
Do they even support vive?
>>53899396
Not sure how it works, but at least 3dvision worked well with it and obviously it's not supported
>>53899396
Cloudlands: VR Minigolf looks like a solid game
>>53897645
>gimmick
>getting intimate with your waifu is a gimmick
youtu.be/-k_8XKC3glA?t=21
>>53898999
>RE160103_img_smp1
what game?
>>53899724
I forgot, let me do some "research"
>>53897645
No one liked 3D tvs though, it didn't add to the experience at all. VR adds incredible immersion.
>>53899741
>No one liked 3D tvs though, it didn't add to the experience at all
It literally adds another dimension. You probably cant add something larger than that, I have a 3dtv, 3d monitor, and 3d blu rays.
>>53898477
You really should read what users who use this for driving and flying sims think as you are way off. Those are actually the prefect type of game for this tech currently. More so than any other type of game. I pre-ordered strictly to use with DCS, ROF, iRacing, Dirt Rally..etc. These games are currently the best implementation for VR, any cockpit based sim is a natural match for a VR headset.
The people who use it currently and have used it don't report any of the issues you state.
>>53899724
Ahh its Trance Doll 2
There is a playabel demo
I have a dk2 and I can tell you, it's not a gimmick and it greatly enhances your experience in certain games like elite dangerous for example. It probably won't catch on though until it is a little cheaper, £600 is more than most people are willing to spend.
If you are going to get one I'd definitely get the vive, the camera is very important as it can be used to put your hands into VR and for augmented reality.
>>53899822
>Trance Doll 2
u da real mvp senpai
>>53900103
You got it Anon kun ^_^
>>53900136
Isn't that just pre cooked flash videos?
>>53900262
Kinda yea, the demo is pretty lackluster tho so you can just search for videos of the full game.
>>53897120
Sony VR will do a good job killing the VR hype for normies.
Apparently is done so cheap, not only the motion tracking is complete balls but it causes dizzines after a couple of hours, when your average /v/ermin buys the Sony VR to play COD on the PS4 he will instantly make a thread, a twit and whatever about how the VR is a gimmick, it's dead on the water and the other /v/ermins will parrot this 'til oblivion.
>>53900777
If it really is so cheaply made then R.I.P
Anyone know any places theyre demoing Vive in the US, specifically in NY?
>>53901230
you can demo it at your place once you buy it
>>53901241
lost
>>53901241
Fuck that. It annoys me how the Vive website under their "Try It Out" section just says to look for a friend with it.
>>53898830
Even when it's not on your face it fails, see Nintendo3DS
>>53901255
AHAHAHAHhaahahaHAHAAHHA
Nigga are you sirius
AHAHAhHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
>>53901276
whats wrong with 3DS? It seemed pretty good when I tried one,
>>53898970
>I've never used Motion controls
If you've played the wii Metroid Primes or anything like that you'd know it makes a big difference even though your arms are at rest on your knees
>>53901276
I don't recall 3DS being a failure
>>53901298
>If you've played the wii Metroid Primes
who has
>>53897552
>Vive DOA
Fucking when.
>>53901462
why is animu ass so perfect
Guys, What method of applying thermal paste do you use on your HTC Vive ?
>>53897153
>don't ... not
Pajeet pls, Microsoft's VR will be shit.
>>53901628
I use the ketchup method, put it on everything.
>>53901356
It is on salty vitafags minds.
I'm always tempted to shill in these threads and make it sound amazing
In reality I'm a poor student right now and just want it to be successful enough to make it to a 2nd gen. I'll be able to afford that when I'm graduated and VR both hardware and software wise should be so much better then
>>53902325
>successful enough to make it to a 2nd gen
this is already at least the second gen, probably 3rd gen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_reality#History
>>53902325
Fell you Bruh, same here.
>>53902372
I think by Gen he meant a real consumer release like the Oculus and Vive now.
>>53902325
Hang in there, it will be worth it!
Can't wait for actual full body tracking including room scale (that's not as shitty as kinect)
>>53902464
>I think by Gen he meant a real consumer release like the Oculus and Vive now.
Thats not how gen works in terms of electronic devices. for example 8th gen being the ps4 doesnt mean that there were 8 versions of the ps4.
>>53902325
2nd gen see this >>53902464 for what I meant. I see this as the first gen of proper wide-scale consumer focussed VR with a real chance of success.
>>53902525
He's right
>>53902512
But that doesn't change the fact that the first 2 versions were only touch ups compared to the final product and we can expect major changes for the next consumer models as there will be a price drop and probably plans for slimmer lighter models.
>>53902558
Not to mention that no one even knows what the fuck to do with VR. Working out what works well and what doesn't will probably take a few years, and then the next consumer model can work off of that.
Samsung will probably be pushing out 4k+ OLED mobile panels by then too
>>53902595
4k OLED Curved panels*
>>53902595
>Working out what works well and what doesn't will probably take a few years
Again, they've already had over 20 years to think about it and they still have nothing. It's like when John Carmack comes up with something that could be considered new and then it just goes into another FPS, like Doom 12. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_reality#History
This is coming from an anon whos tried 90s vr and todays vr.
>>53902671
Fair enough. I'm too young too remember the last push, do you remember if there was this much buzz about VR then? Why did it fail?
If you've tried both can you say whether you think it's going to work out this time or not?
>>53902697
not him but watching this atm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jjz4bls_gPs
>>53902697
>Fair enough. I'm too young too remember the last push, do you remember if there was this much buzz about VR then? Why did it fail?
there was a huge push, they would even take classes of kids on field trips to a place where they could use it with a treadmill and it was in the malls
>>53901276
3DS is far from a failure.
