I must admit I came
b-dump
>>53801753
I though it was a new porn website or app. ^^
However I think 4chan's users are against microsoft software.
They prefer using terminal editors like vim.
>>53803998
>4chan's users are against microsoft software
Nice meme
>>53801753
microsoft are on full damage control
>sql server
>elf on windows
>now darmin
bugs bloat battlestar galactica
>>53801753
So what is this? Code android/iOS apps with C# in visual studio?
>>53803998
No way. Only the autistic fat kids do, but they don't do any proper work anyway.
>>53804009
May not be a majority but I came over here from /pol/ to lurk since it's only name threads over there. Can confirm I don't buy Microsoft or Apple products.
>supporting openly sjw companies
>supporting a company that gave clock kid Ahmed a bunch of free shit for pretending to blow up his school
>>53805225
Oh hey you weren't kidding, you're actually from /pol/.
>>53805241
I won't be posting anymore don't worry. Just came to see what /g/ is about lately.
>>53805273
Don't get me wrong, /pol/ is always welcome here.
>>53805149
Yes, Camille
>>53805300
Excellent
>>53805300
Thank you Latasha
>>53801753
Basically, everything they talked about Wednesday was hype as fuck.
Xamarin free for everyone
Open and exposed AI APIs
Cortana describing the world to a blind dude walking around
BOTS
I know most of /g/ probably doesn't understand the implications of the Ubuntu integration, or Xamarin going completely MIT license, but this is actually pretty goddamn important for devs, .NET stack or otherwise.
https://www.microsoft.com/cognitive-services/
https://dev.botframework.com/
>>53805295
Oh, well thanks
>he willingly writes his code in c#
you'd be better off with react native
>>53805069
BEARS
BEETS
>>53805460
C# is a really comfy language to write in.
It honestly feels like the most well thought-out language I've used.
>>53805538
Because it's very modern, autistic /g/ just loves old clunky shit.
Love me some C#.
>>53801753
DAMAGE CONTROL
>>53805538
>>53805598
It's because you both have stockholders syndrome and have never experienced a half decent language in your life
>>53805876
>stockholders syndrome
allow me to play doubles advocate for a minute and say that you are wrong
>>53805876
Not sure if this post was supposed to be ironic.
post successful
>>53805361
/g/ doesn't understand anything aside from ricing and gaming.
>>53805361
I missed the talk, is Xamarin going to be available on Windows 7?
>>53806081
I'm running Visual Studio 2015 on Windows 7.
Xamarin is built into Visual Studio now at no cost.
I'm planning on moving to Windows 10 anyway. I'm already on it at home, might as well use it at the office, too.
>>53806118
Thanks, Tim.
>>53806067
This, pretty much.
The amount of people in the //build/ thread the other day saying BORING was pretty revealing, considering at the time they were talking about Xamarin being free for everyone, plus Ubuntu integration.
>>53804641
It feels like Microsoft is the Soviet Union in 1989 or so. Everyone can see where this is going but the ownership doesn't want to admit it.
>>53806166
>Everyone can see where this is going
Can you elaborate on this?
>>53806177
Microsoft is learning to accept the collapse of the Windows monopoly instead of fighting it. Once Chromebooks get replaced by Android N-or-later with full floating resizable multi window and a desktop browser, Windows's goose is cooked for home users.
>Google on the low end laptops
>Apple on the high end laptops and a few iMacs
>GNU/Linux and *BSD for servers, workstations, and people who need gaming, multimonitor, etc.
>Microsoft gets fuck-all
This means that to target the user base, they need to pivot from being an OS vendor to being an applications and services vendor. Once Windows drops below ~30% of non corporate developer systems - and that's going to be in the next few years - expect them to rebase Visual Studio on Visual Studio Code and release it for Linux and OS X.
>>53806273
>Microsoft is learning to accept the collapse of the Windows monopoly instead of fighting it.
True, that makes sense.
And that means everything they are doing with these cross-platform pushes are going to be very good for the company.
And frankly, very good for people like me, as the tools being released are JUST what I was looking for on my next project.
Free multiplat dev + public machine learning APIs = my panties moistened
Either way, the developers win here with these changes.
>>53806310
It's not just the APIs. They've released CNTK and various bot frameworks on Github so you can self-host if you've got big fat CUDA boxes. The Nvidia binary drivers officially support both Ubuntu and CentOS, so that means you can make your own penguin-powered Nazi Twitter bot without fighting installation scripts or licensing BS.
>>53806353
To clarify, CNTK builds and runs on both Windows and Linux. OS X is too big a piece of shit to bother with and lacks useful hardware for AI.
>>53804009
I've had it up to fucking here with motherfucking Microsoft shills!
>>53805876
>stockholders syndrome
nice one
>>53806407
Nice meme.
Microsoft is actively investing in tools that make developers' lives easier.
Hate the company all you want, they're doing some really cool things right now for the dev community.
>>53805538
>>53805598
>There's something wrong with using lower level languages that give you more control over the machine
sure is code monkey in here
1. Embrace
2. ???
3. ???
>>53806520
Nothing wrong with low-level languages, different tools, different applications.
If I'm writing a GUI application that implements some web APIs, makes database calls, and needs to work on Android and iOS, I'm sure as shit not doing it in C.
>>53806520
Programmer time is cheaper than machine time for most tasks. Unless you're writing something that needs every last ounce of performance and memory-fiddling like scientific modeling, 3D gaming, or a database server, using higher level languages is fine.
Microsoft is now a Services & Devices company. It's not an OS company anymore. Windows is now just a means to get people to buy services and devices. Azure, Office 365, Xbox, Surface, SQL Server, BI, etc. is where they want to make their money. If a company filled to the brim with cube jockies on Macs uses Azure as its backend, Microsoft doesn't care it didn't sell a Windows license because they're using Macs. It cares that it gets money from Azure. This isn't new. It isn't a secret. Microsoft has been pushing the message of Services & Devices since Poo-man took over. Only people stuck in the 90s think selling Windows CDs to soccer moms is important.
>>53805361
What are the far reaching implications of native Ubuntu that weren't already satisfied by virtualization/cygwin and the like?
>>53805295
No they fucking aren't weebshit.
>>53805361
>Microsoft Bot Framework
You can't make this shit up.
>>53801753
EEE
>>53808867
Today? Nothing.
Tomorrow? Depends if they start migrating to elf binaries and a good and proper libc. If a developer can access these CLI tools and libraries directly and not just via a special shell, then there's a whole new slew of things that can be built and ported, especially to migrate all kinds of legacy COM shit.
Then there's whether they'll adopt a different threading model. Pthreads is an elegant solution to UNIX threading, and there's a reason it took off so well. Win threads are expensive and hard to manage, and there's all kinds of strange implications when dealing with libraries and COM regarding thread apartment type, etc.
Finally, and this is maybe, if these CLI tools are directly accessible, it means the death of mingw and cygwin effectively, since they exist almost purely to allow people to use GCC on Windows.
>>53805876
>stockholders syndrome
xamarin shit a shit
