/uj ok guys, we have a serious problem in the tech industry.
We need to stop teaching/ encouraging people (Including women and kids) how to code. We need them to be completely fucking tech illiterate. Think about it. When we were kids, we got treated like complete shit for being nerds, for having an interest in STEM that we had to create ourselves. Now that people actually need us, everyone wants to be like us and we have the upper hand.
I know all you fucking neckbeards love how you can literally snap your fingers and get a job at any company you want now. I know you love your benefits, excessively high salaries etc. If we teach encourage people to get into STEM, we are literally hurting ourselves. Why, supply in demand. Currently there is an estimated 1 million tech jobs in the US that will go unfilled. If there are more people taht cane even do half as good a job as us, we won't get the perks we normally get, we won't get the oreos, the bubble tea, the on-demand company paid vacations etc.
Stop encouraging people to get into STEM. If you like your job how it is, you should start discouraging people to get into it. I propose the following in order to prevent this.
First and foremost. We start a fund. A fund where we all contribute to and use as our main resource pool. Then we hop on Azure, or AWS and start a huge botnet. DDOS the fuck outta codeacademy.com , khanacademy.com and anyone that is trying to help women and kids learn to code. Then we assault hard code. Then we start the rumours, the lies etc. We should do whatever possible to be as elitist and daunting as possible. We need to make it the most hostile and mysoginistic environment we possibly can. Whatever we can to trigger these feminists that are taking our jobs. We need to save ourselves. There are currently 7 billion people on this planet. 99.9% of them are completely dependent on us. Why the fuck would we give them the power to control us?
>pic semi-related
>>53788560
tl;dr
>>53788582
tl;dr
Teaching women and kids to code will cause over inflation of tech jobs. We loose our comfy jobs, and high salaries
We should be mysoginistic and hostile to prevent people from wanting to get into stem
>>53788560
Calm down nerd, not everyone is an autist like you. It's good if more people go into STEM fields.
You can't replace a skilled person by two persons that are half as skilled, it won't be the same.
If you get less money because there are more people in your field, then either you or your field suck and don't deserve as much money as you want.
It's too late.
They're teaching 12 year old's python as part of the standard curriculum now, I would have killed to have such lessons as a kid.
>>53788611
You're semi right. They'll still get hired. And even access to a low quality alternative is enough to shift price.
I got a BJ from a hiring exec, for a fucking contract. And I still got a signing bonus.
I don't want to loose those kinds of perks
>>53788560
>>53788605
Obvious SJW bait.
Do not reply to this thread.
>>53788666
Satan please
>>53788605
>>53788659
>loose
I think you'll be among the first ones to lose their job. You better loosen up your asshole.
>>53788638
Exactly, I had to learn perl on my own, why the fuck should all these kids get it for free, and get to run aronud calling themselves "code artisians" or whatever else
The only way to stop this is i we make ever
t. mentally slow dumblrina trying to frame us programmers as intimidated when we're only intimidated by her mayo consumption per hour
>>53788666
Basic economics. I know you like sitting infront of your shitty macbook writing java all day. I know I do. And I know I love the pay.
Think about it.
>>53788638
You're still safe. In a class of around 30 a friend of mine was in for high schoolers, him and about 3 other people actually understood how to program and not just copypasta.
>>53788751
3 kids per every school, multiply by roughly 3000 schools in a state, 51 states that's roughly 45000 kids per year assuming that there's only one CS class per year in each school.
Assuming half get a BA, then we have 22000 qualified kids every 4 years
>>53789259
Thats not really a lot for a 350mill population, 500 mill if youre european.
/g/ doesn't have a job and never will it'd be more scary if you said feminazis were gonna take away our chicken tendies and memes
>>53789301
It is. It adds up. 1 million unavailabe tech jobs cause the high salaries etc.
25000 every 4 years, that would take 40 years at the current rate (Which is growing)
Take into account this happening in all the other countries in the world (Canada, Germany etc.)
You're fucked if you're not full stack
>>53788560
What is wrong with the code on the right / left which is better?
>>53789562
Left is because anyone that has ever written code should know what it is.
The one on the right gas too much unnecessary documentation. It makes longer and stupid. Shirt and concise, buth with documentation where required is good.
>>53789390
40 years is a longass time, that's half of a human's lifespan. And the number of available jobs would grow too.
>>53788560
This is much ado about nothing. Charity funds and outreach programs do not translate into more programmers in the long term. Anyone who is serious about programming has already taken the initiative to learn, and anyone who hasn't will not work for very long.
>>53789706
There is nothing else? Is the left more efficient?
>>53788560
Why? Are you too scared to be replaced by Pajeet and Stacy?
>>53788560
Your jobs are already being stolen by Radesh and Pedro.
>>53788560
>Non English speaker talking about what is so far a US only phenomenon
>Using a troll/joke image as an example
I smell bait. Careful with those eggcorns anon, they don't make for good fish food.
>>53788560
I just looked at her github account
> several versions of "hello world" in Ruby
> typos all over
What are you all freaking out about? Anyone who "learns" to code from her will never come close to "this complies" tier.
>implying STEM will even be a viable career path in 10 years.
>>53790196
Objectively smaller in size so that can be considered a plus
>>53790196
They don't do the same thing. You can't compare them like this.
The right one has too much documentation, but the left one would not suffer from more.
>>53789562
The right one is wrong. It should give you the bigger of two numbers, but if both numbers are equal, it always gives you 5 because "so random lol :D"
Also, the right one make redundant checks, which slow your program down.
I don't care if the market is flooded with developers... if they're good developers. Problem is these code camps pump out idiots who can't even write FizzBuzz correctly. Then when they fail, they blame an ism instead of their own ineptitude. Most companies are terrible at determining who is a good developer and who is crap so it's easy for these moron code campers to get in the door and fuck everything up. Eventually what's going to happen is enough companies will have huge costly IT disasters and learn to stop hiring code campers. Stupidity has to be painful. In the meantime, it's going to be a clusterfuck. I recommend doing freelance or working at a small shop that you know is free of this poison.
>>53788716
So you're afraid about losing your job because you're a worthless code monkey that can be replaced by a 12 year old female indian?
i'm out of the loop who the fuck is karlie kloss?
Your coding hut will be fullfilled with female nazi and transsexual degenerates, white coder
be prepared
>>53788560
>>53788605
Fuck you, I want tech to be flooded with retards and girls.
Right now, girls who have no clue are treated like goddesses because they can program a fizzbuzz, while guys have to struggle.
....but if the market was filled with girls, then they would no longer be special exceptions.
>>53788659
>I got a BJ from a hiring exec, for a fucking contract. And I still got a signing bonus.
You've been watching too much Mr. Roboto, lol.
>>53792832
Google says porn star when I google that name.
>when we were kids
It's time to let it go, man
Just let it go....
>>53788560
You sound like someone who's paranoid they'll be replaced by some pooinloo because they can code better than you for a lower salary (and that wasn't a compliment to the pooinloo).
want to be relevant?
try to specialize
>>53793125
This
>>53792832
Good to be British with an RCD. If it shorted through me it would flip in less than a AC direction flip and if it shorted through the circuit my MCB will kick in meaning apart from some burns from the metal I would be fine.
>>53792832
Karlie Kloss is a model who is now doing this Code with Karlie thing where girls learn to code
/g/ (read: /r9k/ cross-posters) are getting furious because...well i'm not sure about that myself
>>53792921
fucking idiot
>>53793289
>Karlie Kloss is a model
AKA whore
>>53793289
>>53793317
but is she really ok with commentating every single fucking line of code?
>>53793324
She's a woman, she's ok with commenting on every fucking thing you do all the time.
>>53788560
>difference between guys and girls
Girls don't indent their code?
>>53788560
The right side is actually pretty shitty.
>>53793317
KODE MUH DIKC KALY
>>53788560
this picture is satire or fake
right
please say it is
>>53793436
>no results on google
thank you jesus holy shit
>>53793289
>/r9k/ cross-posters
>>53788560
I can never tell if this viewpoint is smart or just a view that shows that you are a barely competent worker that can be replaced.
Probably the second one but it is still nice to not have to work as hard to get the same shit =^).
>>53793333
>She's a woman, she's ok with commenting on every fucking thing you do all the time.
QUADS OF TRUTH
>>53793436
>>53793492
Karlie Kloss @karliekloss Mar 14
How many digits of pi can you recite in 10 seconds? Let's see your best @video. I got 40! #KlossyPiDayChallenge
>>53793565
3, and I don't even need 10 seconds for it.
>>53790196
They don't do the same thing. Code on the right is unnecessarily convoluted for what it's supposed to do. I say "supposed to" because it doesn't even fucking work.
>>53788560
That picture triggers me.
>>53793333
This
If women where as critical of themselves, as they are other people, they might actually contribute to society.
>>53788666
>>53793324
>but is she really ok with commentating every single fucking line of code?
The hypocrisy of it is that she removed all the comments from the "when guys code" part. Which, by the way, is the most legendary piece of code from the Quake 3 source code, which allowed the game to run 3D graphics three times as fast as anything else on the market (look up Fast Inverse Square Root). A bit unfair to compare that to "return the larger integer".
That and she is using comic sans as the font of choice.
>>53793565
Three point one four one five fuck you.
>>53788560
Jokes on you idiot.
I don't even study or wish to work in the field. I don't really give a fuck how many Indians or even transgender Somalis become software developers.
I only use gnu/Linux as a hobby and code as a hobby too.
The more autistic STEM nerds get btfo the better. It literally doesn't bother me.
WHO /ECONOMICS/ MASTER RACE HERE?
Everyone is not cut out for programming, it won't be an issue. They might be able to write their little Hello World-programs in Python but that doesn't mean they will be able to grasp the concepts of OOP and actually make a career for themselves.
>>53794927
you're worse than karlie
>>53788560
The real problem is the poo in loo codemonkeys.
>>53795169
how? Because I'm not butthurt that some idiots will replace my job? Gee nice confidence in your skills there lmao.
Feels good to see STEMcucks btfo as usual.
>>53795225
They aren't a problem, outsourcing to pajeets only leads to trouble
It may be in the curriculum for schools, and it may be encouraged a lot, but none of them will ever get jobs...
r- right?
we're fine, r-r-right?
>>53795256
th-they'll never pursue the career... they'll all get tired of it...
RIGHT?
>>53795244
That doesn't mean it's not happening on a wide scale.
>>53795284
It is happening, but as companies become more experienced with that kind of offshore outsourcing they learn about its inherent flaws and abandon it despite the short-term cost reduction.
>>53795256
Yeah m8, that's why I can speak fluent spanish from my high school spanish class.
>>53795256
>>53795277
>>53795311
Okay, let's say company A hired a staff consistening largely of women and other underrepresented groups of programmers due to it looking good from a PR standpoint, not because of the individual skills of said people. How will they be able to compete with company B that hires based on competence and nothing else? Company B will put out better quality code and gain a reputation as a reliable working partner. Company A might have the moral zeitgeist on their side but will that really lead people to employ them over Company B?
>>53795398
>How will they be able to compete with company B that hires based on competence and nothing else? Company B will put out better quality code and gain a reputation as a reliable working partner. Company A might have the moral zeitgeist on their side but will that really lead people to employ them over Company B?
That's saying the companies will be able to IDENTIFY the problem as the incompetent programmers.
They could just copy and paste from stackoverflow, or nag people in IRC until they get the minimum that works, and have a disgusting codebase - but it still works. All the company really cares about is the end product and whether it works or not.
jesus fucking christ
the problem is worse than we think
http://www.blackgirlscode.com/
>>53795437
I get your point, but I think skillful development is more than just the code itself looking pretty. I think it's easy to detect the difference between a product that fulfills the minimum requirements and a product that has taken a lot of measures to ensure that the product works as intended. Especially if we consider a scenario where the product in question fulfills a critical role in a system. Weaknesses in such a product would show themselves pretty quickly.
But don't you want a qt3.14 hacker gf, anon?
>>53791277
You are clearly incomepetent as a C programmer. On the left we see literally BRILLIANT fast invsqrt function by no other than John Carmack. It has a whole wikipedia article devoted to it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_inverse_square_root
It is a famous programming gem.
On the left we see just shit overcommented function that returns largest of two numbers.
>>53795613
I'd rather a qt skinny hacker bf :3
>>53795663
He isn't wrong that you can't compare them though.
It's the difference between training an AI to play Go and training an AI to play Higher or Lower.
>>53788560
I have one. In my Software Development Prgram theres a lot of cuties!
>>53795681
each to his own :3333
>>53790196
Shitty function names, reinventing Math library, overdocumented, behaviourally wrong, using c++, using whatever that other language is.
>>53792904
Competent developers are rare.
>>53795559
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SOLID_%28object-oriented_design%29
>>53795832
I know about SOLID, what's your point?
>>53795864
Rush shipping get $$$
>>53788638
>I would have killed to have such lessons as a kid.
A lot of the teachers are completely incompetent and will totally ruin computer science for the students. If there's one thing we can do to make sure most people won't study computer science, it's to force them to learn it in primary school.
Let idiots "code". The good men and women who can actually think and apply logic to solve problems will not be affected since they are actually competent. Hell, more idiots coding means there's a growing market for tools to make it easier for them which will need to be programmed by people who know what they're doing.
There's no need to bring race or gender or wealth into it when it's about people who can program and people who can't.
Look at the increase in things like high school coding classes like this: you took some PE or some music or some art classes in high school, right? Everyone did. That didn't mean that professional athletes and artists have to worry about a flood of subpar people coming in because they can perform good enough to secure their spot.
>>53795732
ah, you're right
I'm just sleepy
Coding is for monkeys. Come over the engineering side of the world and get a degree in EE. Women can't into math and physics. You won't ever see a company ruin themselves by hiring an engineer because it's a woman because you could be designing a product that could kill humans if they hire a retarded female.
>>53788638
Yea at like 0.5% of schools
Not slightly worried. Fairly certain that femmies/hipsters/normies can't touch my skill level. And if they can they're not normies
>>53795961
Fuck yu still doing in that EE shithole, come to FR and collect welfare.
>>53795352
This, they're teaching kids the absolute minimum. They'll have to take apcs in high school to even begin to learn anything programming wise. Learning print statements in python is easier than pooing in the street anyway.
>>53788560
>ddos Khan academy
Fuck you Khan academy is where I learn my subjects before college The coding isn't even that good on there.
>>53794258
>because it doesn't even fucking work.
Doesn't know about the Fast InvSqrt()
>>53796423
He meant the code on the right
>>53792881
>>53795943
>>53795961
>>53796286
>coding
>>53796752
That just shows how much I don't give a fuck about it on Khan Academy and in general.
>>53796752
I was careful about my use of the word.
>>53795961
EE master race reporting in
>>53793317
I quite like those nipples fambruh!
>>53791277
The left one also have comments, but they are crop out of the picture.
>>53795663
> Pointing to the wiki page
> Insisting that the author is Carmack
10/10 reading comprehension right there
>>53792904
When you're a kickass dev coming from an ivy league school, you tend to get blown more than you think
