>We should be talking about torture in VR
>Prolonged VR immersion would potentially alter how a person responds to visual stimuli. It would also affect the prisoner’s sense of self, place, and time. Coupled with what is already known about solitary confinement—that it causes visual and auditory hallucinations, that it hinders people’s ability to recognize an object as the same object when viewed from different angles, that it drives inmates to self-harm and suicide—VR confinement could leave detainees on the verge of a complete breakdown.
>It might even be possible that VR is capable of manipulating the senses to the point of creating a mental sensation of pain. “It’s actually really easy to create a phantom sensation,” BeAnotherLab told me, referring to the strange phenomena called the body transfer illusion. Under the right set of conditions, the mind can be tricked into believing that it is feeling the sensations that an external body feels. The lab tells me that since they have begun working with VR they have become more receptive to this kind of illusion. In fact, they are currently launching a study into whether or not VR increases people’s vicarious pain sensitivity—a mysterious condition, common among amputees with symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder, where the nervous system misfires and triggers pain at the sight of someone else’s suffering. How dystopian would a future be where someone discovered that a VR simulation could recreate the illusion of pain on a loop without the body’s hormonal release of endorphins or the catharsis of dying?
https://versions.killscreen.com/we-should-be-talking-about-torture-in-vr/
Cool
America is shit
>would potentially
>it might even be possible
oh look it's fucking nothing
how can vr torture be real, like just close your eyes nigga
>>53738171
>>53738049
>forced to browse memes 24/7
>give up will to live, stop eating
>force fed Soylent through a tube and forced to continue browsing memes
I hope it's /tv/ and not /s4s/
You gotta be a bad motherfucker to torture these people.
>>53738049
TORTURE IN
V I R T U A L R E A L I T Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR-lxPhGunU
30 YEARS IN THE CUBES CREEP
>>53739759
It just flashes all the rare pepes, while it screams about the future of mankind being dead.
Americans and Europeans deserve all the terrorism they get
>>53738049
Pretty sure you could get more information out of them with some pliers and a hacksaw.
>>53740355
hi turkroach
>>53740355
shoo shoo turkey boy. You will be the first to try out this advance intergation when Emperor Trump becomes presideny.
>>53740385
>Information gained through torture is reliable or actionable
Someone has been watching too many Hollywood films.
>exciting new technology
>first thing some people want to use it for is torture
Fucking people, man.
>>53740723
Americans aren't people.
>>53740669
It is if you already know they're simply withholding something they know.
Grabbing some random who might have done it and torturing them into a confession, now that's useless.
>>53740755
Many of the illegally imprisoned in Guantanamo Bay were/are innocent and have had their lives ruined and exposed to irreparable psychological damage.
>>53738203
>>53738049
the future is terrifying
>>53740669
Guarantee more, worse torture for false information. Make it so that they'd forsake their god and the promise of eternal life for a brief moment of respite.
>>53740779
>muh innocent sandniggers
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/03/24/pentagon-prisoners-released-from-guantanamo-have-murdered-americans/
Since we're just hearing about this now that means the government has obviously already been using VR torture for the last 20 years
>>53738049
>conservatives
>>53740846
.Abasin, Said, a Kabul taxi driver who was proved innocent and released after over one year of detention
>Al Hakim, A'Del Abdu, determined to be innocent. Still detained.
>Al Kinani Al Laithi, Sami, ruled innocent, claims beating crippled him
>Saddiq Ahmad, innocent.
Ignoring the fact that many have not been convicted of anything and the people who have killed themselves or on hunger strike etc.
>>53741019
Who fucking cares?
>>53741056
Kill yourself disgusting slimeball
>>53738049
That's the only way to get this meme funded. Though holy shit, Burgers are cray.
>>53740779
What was it I was saying about "already know they're simply withholding something they know"
If they ran into the street with 10 other guys yelling "Ignite snackbar", 9 of them went caput, and one of them forgot to charge their phone that morning and is left looking embarrassed as fuck, then there's solid ground that they have information that can be extracted. If a darkie messaged another darkie that a restaurant was "the bomb" and then two years later it went kaput, then fuck off with that torture shit.
>>53740818
doesn't work
>>53740818
And if they're innocent you get nothing but false info. See >>53741069
It's only useful if you know they're guilty.
>>53741062
Please Abdul, go rape a little boy somewhere else.
>they was innocent
>Islam is peace!
>they dindu nuffin
>>53741109
My name is Arsen and I'm no muslim, but even if I was I don't see how you could somehow use that to justify crippling and torturing innocent people, for years, who were detained illegally -- for a time in complete secrecy.
>>53741069
Fact of the matter if they weren't withholding any information and were tortured for years. Such circumstances exist and the methodology is not ethical.
>>53741203
Even moderate muslims support terrorist and hate.
All is far in war.
>>53738049
I doubt we'll be spending thousands on VR Kits just to make some prisoners feel shitty when all that bandcamp metal is freely available.
>>53741263
>>53741109
>>53741056
ow, the edge
why go through all that trouble just to fuck a guy up
wouldn't brainwashing be more productive
lel'd hard, OP
>>53741263
Ask moderate Christians similar questions and you'll get the same results.
>>53741384
>MIC
>efficiency
Pick one, anon.
>government puts a torture vr headset on you
>close your eyes
>>53738049
>Torture VR
>Its 24/7 porn
>Water given laced with viagra
>>53741019
you're lucky this is not /b/
>>53741433
>Hands tied behind back
Though that won't work on everyone obviously
>>53741401
Let me ask all my christian friends if people should be stoned to death for cheating. Or that women shouldn't have rights.
Get fucked Achmed
>>53741203
It was their own fault for being Muslim.
>>53738133
Came here expecting this to be the first and only reply. Oh well, video games kill people, tv shows kill people, music kills people, movies kill people, books kill people and vr will kill some as well.
>>53741476
Gotta frame them they same though.
Do you really think you'll find actual Christians (people who got to church weekly, take this shit somehow serious, read the Bible) who'll disagree with the most?
Only "death for leaving Christianity" would be a hard sell but I am sure you could find some similar thing.
>>53741203
>Arsen
>named by something that literally gives cancer
It's like your parents could look into the future.
>>53741597
I'm a practicing Catholic and I know no one wants that shit.
You seem like a tumblr liberal faggot.
I sincerely hope your "religion of peace" throws you off a tower for being such a fucking faggot
>>53741597
kek, no. Christianity is literally a religion of peace and love.
"Turn the other cheek", forgiveness, "we are all sinners", and "God will forgive you as long as you repent" are actual parts of the religion.
>>53741641
So you're fine with your wife being the boss in the house, earning more than you and telling you which car to buy? Also the whole abortion thing? How would you react if she cheated on you? How would you react if your son was the biggest homo lord on earth? What about other people fucking around?
>>53741663
>"we are all sinners"
>a good thing
Rest is mostly related to Jesus' teachings, that are as much Christianity as mainstream Android open source.
>>53741732
>So you're fine with your wife being the boss in the house, earning more than you and telling you which car to buy?
Literally not the same thing as thinking women shouldn't be able to be alone without a man.
Also the whole abortion thing?
Pro-choice but personally against it. Freedom is the American way.
How would you react if she cheated on you?
I'd be upset, but she doesn't deserve to die.
How would you react if your son was the biggest homo lord on earth?
I'd pray for him.
What about other people fucking around?
Not my business
>>53741771
>Literally not the same thing as thinking women shouldn't be able to be alone without a man.
Which wasn't the question for our sand friends either. They simply like the old gender roles.
>I'd pray for him.
And then? Would you still consider him your son and treat him like one?
>>53741263
Has anyone actually checked the numbers on this to make sure that those mongoloids aren't misinterpreting the data? Pretty much every time I see someone link to that poll they completely miss that it's the percent of Muslims who support Sharia who also support X and instead claim that it's the percent of Muslims who support X..
>>53741056
Most adults care you little fucking squirt. Duck on out of here now and go race on the streets with your loud mufflers and retarded music.
My god! I am livid and almost unable to see the computer screen with my soured expression. Your comment has caused me irritation in the highest fucking degree, you shriveling fucking turd!
>>53740818
If they've already got their sights set on eternity, they dgaf about your moment's respite.
>>53741056
>not me, so not my problem.
When it becomes your problem it will be too late. That's why it's important now.
>>53741069
Sometimes you're rollin wit ya niggas when they suddenly start bustin Allah's and hittin the infidels wit the snackbars n you're guilty by association.
This is much rarer, but does happen.
>>53741403
>implying it doesn't involve sound as well.
>implying the ride ever ends.
>>53741468
>not being familiar with the hands-free orgasm.
It takes longer than regular masturbation, but it's very intense.
>>53741663
I hate how most people don't understand this.
>>53741732
>Jesus Christ's teachings
>not really relevant to Christianity
>hurrdurr
>>53741263
Muslim here, I wouldn't want the Sharia to rule, at all. I drink/smoke/blaze and live my life without thinking about religious consequences. I still respect some rules, that's enough imho. I don't steal and hurt people without a reason, matter of fact I try not to hurt anyone as long as they don't need to be hurt. You could say I just do my best to ne a decent human being, a functional part of society. Even if terrorist want everyone to follow the Sharia, which probably means kill all who are not Muslim to them, they're doing it completely wrong. I'd kill a terrorist rather than slap a prostitute.
>>53741972
And one question, how did this thread turn into religion war?
>>53738049
>excited for VR for games and the glorious waifu age
>Americans make it about torture
This is why we can't have nice things
Just shoot the prisoners of war and be done with it. Torturing just seems like a wasted effort when all they have to do is give false info to buy more time. Terrorists kidnap and kill innocent people all the time. I don't see why we have to pretend to be the "better" person. It's not like they're suddenly going to change their opinion about us because we spared their lives. They're going to get out of prison and hate us more.
Just seems like wasted tax payer money to me.
>>53742003
What exactly is the point fighting terrorists if we do the same things?
>>53742027
We do it to stop them. If all terrorists are dead, there are no terrorists, which is a good thing. A good terrorist is a dead terrorist.
>>53742052
How are we any different from them if we use the same methods? It'd be terrorism winning, pretty worthless.
>>53742052
If you kill them they'll look like martyrs and more will take their place. You have to destroy their spirit and will to fight
>>53742072
if you stop someone from beating a woman by punching them in the face, are you the villain or the hero?
>How are we any different from them if we use the same methods?
Catchy phrase which holds no actual meaning in most cases
>>53742027
I don't give a fuck what happens overseas. If it were up to me, I would have pulled out of that shitfest before it began. With all of those resources available we could focus more on home defense. We fight terrorists to protect ourselves from their actions.
We only piss more people off by invading their land.
>>53742072
We wouldn't. I mean, I guess we would be a little more formal about it and not do it in heinous ways. idk.
>>53742076
Regardless if we kill them or not, they will still look like martyrs. Extreme Islam is more accepting of death. I'm not even meme 72 virgins. If you die for Islam you're supposed guaranteed a spot in heaven no matter what you've done. So it's not like they have anything to lose and it's encouraged to be a martyr. You can't weaken that spirit because it only grows.
>>53742072
Not at all, we won't go killing innocents after terrorists are done for.
>>53742076
They're not martyrs if they killed innocents for no reason. More? No problem, kill them too. If they aren't all dead, it won't end.
>>53742143
>>53742133
You can't kill ideas
>>53742157
You can kill everyone who follows them though.
>>53742173
More people will just read up about them and it'll all start over again
>>53742157
You're right. So with that logic, they should stop being terrorists then, right? Because it's not like they're ever going to win.
There's a difference between us and terrorists. A terrorists job is to instill fear. To make us afraid of living our normal lives.
All I'm saying is we kill the prisoners of war instead of holding them captured/torturing them and bank out of the middle east. I'm not saying we should start flying planes into their bases or post videos of beheading their women and children.
>>53742183
Destroy all information. Like ISIS is trying to do by destroying historical landmarks.
>>53742183
If it starts, kill the ones who started it, before it gets out of hand. This is what should've happened years ago, but nooooo, the government needs to make sure the terrorists attack everyone before taking action so they are seen as heroes. I wouldn't care if everyone hated me because I killed the next big terrorist leader before he started something big. Knowing you did good is more important than being known as someone who did good, this planet would've been a better place if everyone thought like this, but they don't.
>>53742173
>>53742227
>we kill the prisoners of war instead of holding them captured/torturing
why do you think they torture them in the first place? for lols?
>/g/ - Technology
>>53742275
Easy. One was taking the piss.
>>53742275
One is a terrorist, the other one protects her home.
they already do that, except they dont use goggles but jam shit straight into your brain and fuck you up so bad that fear means nothing.
>>53742121
>if you stop someone from beating a woman by punching them in the face, are you the villain or the hero?
Depends on what happened before. Maybe she attacked the guy before? Assuming it's all simple, you're the good guy.
>Catchy phrase which holds no actual meaning in most cases
Let's see
>torturing and killing innocents
>no regards for human rights or Geneva Conventions
>the other side is an enemy that needs to be eradicated from the world
>we are right because we are us, they are wrong because they are them
If you can apply this on both sides, both sides are shit.
>>53742133
>We only piss more people off by invading their land.
Pretty much.
>>53742143
>Not at all, we won't go killing innocents after terrorists are done for.
What would stop us? If we didn't give a shit about human rights just a second ago to wipe them all out, what makes you think that it can suddenly switch?
>>53742319
This. Also the terrorist has no eye brows.
>>53742343
Do you have a nose piercing? Are you retarded? Terrorists don't deserve human rights, the sooner they're all dead, the sooner we can step on a train without it blowing up. Do normal people go out blowing themselves up? No. They deserve to live.
How would you react to someone calling you a fucking pig? You'd insult them back, right? So how do we stop terrorism? By killing them all.
>>53742343
They are wrong because they kill innocents you fucking dike.
>>53742412
>humans don't deserve human rights
And back to /b/ with you, friend.
>>53742431
>They are wrong because they kill innocents
So just like our Burger friends?
>>53742479
What the fuck. You really are retarded aren't you? According to your logic whe should stop imprisoning criminals.
>They are humans, therefore they deserve freedom as it's a human right.
Just kill yourself you terrorist-enabling dickhead.
>>53742343
>If you can apply this on both sides, both sides are shit.
We're both shit anyways. But we won't be running around capturing random muslims and beheading them all in the name of freedom. If we suspect they're terrorists or are involved in terrorist acts, bye bye. Capturing innocent muslims will turn them into terrorists once we set them free. They're not going to go on with their day as if it never happened. If you were captured and tortured for years before seeing your family, are you telling me you wouldn't want to seek revenge?
>What would stop us?
The sheer fact that we're not killing random people for a bullshit cause. We're killing terrorists and anyone highly suspected to be connected to terrorist acts. It's better safe than sorry.
>>53742275
One of them is standing in front of their suburban home, dressed in normal casual clothes, carrying a gun used for sport or self defence if anything at all.
The other one is wearing obviously military-style clothes with camo and a fucking grenade strapped to her, while standing in front of a banner frequently used for shooting ransom videos and propaganda, and holding a book that requires her to kill those who insult her religion which she is much more likely to feel strongly towards than a member of any other religion is.
>>53742412
>Terrorists don't deserve human rights
...and how can you be 100% certain that you have the right person, considering there have been plenty of cases previously where they didn't get the right person.
>the sooner we can step on a train without it blowing up
You already can, terrorist attacks are even less of a problem than mass shootings in the US. If you go around constantly fearing either you should probably get your head checked.
>You'd insult them back, right?
For what purpose?
>>53742611
I'm not ok with killing suspects, I'm in for killing confirmed terrorists.
>>53742412
So destroying an entire building and killing a bunch of people from a drone strike because someone who is or isn't a terrorist might be there is different than terrorism because... we're the good guys right?
>>53742520
Do the words of "court" and "prosecution" ring any bells for you? Also "Geneva Conventions". We don't randomly put people in prison because they were in a neighborhood where another criminal was couple days ago. Well, usually not. If they aren't black.
>>53742529
>we won't be running around capturing random muslims and beheading them all in the name of freedom
Because we're more efficient, carpet bombing is the way! Also the whole Guantanamo thing and loads of other black sites, where people who were PROVED innocent got captured and tortured.
>If we suspect they're terrorists or are involved in terrorist acts, bye bye
This would be ignoring the entire progress we made as society over centuries. What will stop some guy in charge suspect you of terrorism? Why would it be just limited to terrorism?
>Capturing innocent muslims will turn them into terrorists once we set them free.
Not necessary but it certainly is a bad way to turn them on our side.
>We're killing terrorists and anyone highly suspected to be connected to terrorist acts.
Unless we have 100% proof for the last two, that's exactly what killing random people is about.
>>53742717
I never said anything like that.
>>53742717
We're at war and we're in it to win.
>>53742794
With who? We didn't declare war on Lolqaeda nor Isis. Terrorist is a label that can be slapped on everybody.
