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My sansa clip died yesterday.
What should I replace it with?
iPod Classic with Rockbox and iFlash.
>>53702865
sounds good, but if it requires itunes it's a no for me
Aliexpress mp3 player
>>53702865
>>53702897
fags
get a Fiio X3 or another dedicated device that reads music off of SD cards and supports all formats.
>inb4 "just use le smartphone XDDD"
>inb4 "you can't hear the difference in quality!"
Same exact issue I just had. I love physical buttons, but so far the only recommendations I've gotten are the Fiios which are expensive as fuck.
Another sansa clip.
Also how did your clip break?
Mine's been chugging away happily for 6 years now, it would suck if it just suddenly fried.
>>53702918
>>53702917
Fiio is great but too expensive.
Tbh the physical buttons on sansa are a bit ittitating with their click sound
>>53702917
this, i have a x1, it's great
>>53702917
I'm using my phone now, I hate it. It refuses to keep my playlists intact (I still use WMP :()
>>53702958
I need physical buttons because I have my playlist memorized and I do a lot of changing songs/volume without the player leaving my pocket. Also, driving.
>>53702952
It didn't break, it just died.
lasted well over 10000 hours of music
I was considering a zune, are they worth?
>>53702952
I've had two. One won't get past the opening loading screen, and the second one that just broke last week won't turn on without me plugging it in, and then I can't turn it off.
>>53702838
>My sansa clip died yesterday.
>What should I replace it with?
Alayne clip, obviously.
iPod Classic with SSD
>>53703101
Clips are now discontinued and have skyrocketed in price.
Your phone.
just use your phone like a normal person 'tismo
>>53703124
My phone weights 130 grams, I want something lightweight
>>53703124
Fuck off
>>53703119
how much do they cost now?
If soon enough I get LG g5 (with DAC module) or HTC 10 can I just expect an acceptable DAC from those?
>My [insert device] died
>no other information provided
whenever I read this 99% of the times people fucked up somewhere and/or were actually looking for a replacement anyway.
>>53703190
$75-130
>>53703285
I paid $70 for mine back in 2010.
>>53703271
Not OP but I'm the same faggot posting in this thread about how my other two died. What info would you like senpai? I need some help
>>53703300
What the fuck? I paid $25 for my first (2012) and $33 for my second (2014)
>>53703163
>130 grams
>too heavy
>>53703168
What's your problem?
Pono player?
Zune master race reporting
>>53703374
He's asking for a PMP, not a goddamned phone. Go shitpost in your homescreen threads faggot
it might not be dead!
i have experience sansaclip 'death' several times... it has always come back after doing a reboot by pressing and holding the 'home' + 'power' + middle track button. ten seconds or so while holding these 3 buttons has revived it several times. i have experienced black screen / will not power on; screen lock on 'refreshing data'; also got it wet (once) and after drying off over 2 days, got it to work again!
let us know how it goes!
>>53702889
its been 'flashed' so it don't require itunes no moe muthafucka!
sansa c200 is cheaper, and with rockbox, works with high capacity (micro) sd cards. I got one for <$20.
>>53703418
>He's asking for a PMP, not a goddamned phone.
He didn't.
>Go shitpost in your homescreen threads faggot
I have no intention to. What are you on about?
>>53703469
Shiiiiiet, it's alive!
Thank you man, you saved me a lot of trouble
>>53703523
>my music player died, what should I replace it with
Sounds like he's asking for a new PMP to me.
>I have no intention to. What are you on about?
You being a twat
Ruizu X02
>>53703552
>>>53703523 (You)
>>my music player died, what should I replace it with
>Sounds like he's asking for a new PMP to me.
OP didn't state that anywhere, did he?
>>I have no intention to. What are you on about?
>You being a twat
I'm not. I think a phone is a valid alternative.
Get a zune
>>53703575
>I think a phone is a valid alternative.
You thought wrong.
>>53702838
A Zune HD
>>53703598
Why not? It works out for most people.
>>53702838
>sansa clip died
fake and gay
>>53703612
Dedicated devices are better and smartphones are half assed alternatives. Jacks of all trades, masters of none.
>>53703647
A phone plays your portable music just the same, you know that. Arguably better I might add, due to newer codecs/formats and such.
>>53703701
Touchscreen controls are shit, anon. And I don't need anything other than ALAC. If I wanted those new formats, there's always Rockbox.
>>53702917
>X3
>>>/reddit/
>>53703747
Which will it be then?
Don't respond if you just want to tell me phone.
>>53703764
phone
>>53703701
>a phone plays your portable music just the same
that is debatable
>phones play music better, because of new formats/codecs
don't try to discuss things you know nothing about.
>>53703747
I don't know if that is true or not (and I'm sure you _don't_ either) since I do ALL my shitposting on 4chan, but you should realize that reddit and 4chan are basically the same thing now.
>>53703744
>>>53703701 (You)
>Touchscreen controls are shit, anon.
That's highly subjective, and up to OP to decide. Most people, apart from maybe the elderly, have gotten used to touchscreens for years now. Are you saying you don't own a phone with a touchscreen as well?
>And I don't need anything other than ALAC. If I wanted those new formats, there's always Rockbox.
Which again may well differ from OP's opinion. Maybe he prefers FLAC, who knows?
>>53703795
>>>53703701 (You)
>>a phone plays your portable music just the same
>that is debatable
Sure, but if he's using sansa clip he doesn't care much anyway.
>>phones play music better, because of new formats/codecs
>don't try to discuss things you know nothing about.
How would you know what I do or don't know?
>>53703795
>>a phone plays your portable music just the same
>that is debatable
>>phones play music better, because of new formats/codecs
>don't try to discuss things you know nothing about.
Not the other dude, but what does a dedicated music device actually do differently than a (smart)phone in terms of playing music, apart from software things like more advanced playlist support or sperg level equalizer options? Like, actual sound quality?
(I'm a dumbphone & sansa clip owner)
>>53703828
your reasoning behind why smartphones are better is "because of new codecs" as if dedicated devices do not support these new codecs. My X3 plays all formats, and I regularly see people on /g/ asking for help because they're having trouble playing .flac or .ogg on their device so that argument is literally not true at all
oh and he's not using a sansa clip anymore he's looking for a replacement.
>>53702838
A phone.
RUIZU X02 from Aliexpress
>>53703828
>That's highly subjective
No, as far as PMPs go touchscreens suck. You need to pull your phone out of your pocket to change songs, can't change songs with gloves on, etc.
>Are you saying you don't own a phone with a touchscreen as well?
No, my phone has a touchscreen, and I also don't use it as a PMP because it would suck for such a task.
>Maybe he prefers FLAC, who knows?
And Rockbox supports FLAC you stupid shit. Do you not know what Rockbox is?
>>53702838
A phone
>>53702838
Phone.
>>53703881
>>>53703828 (You)
>your reasoning behind why smartphones are better is "because of new codecs" as if dedicated devices do not support these new codecs.
No, I didn't say that. I said they were *arguably* better.
>oh and he's not using a sansa clip anymore he's looking for a replacement.
I know, which still doesn't change the fact that he didn't care that much when he still used his sansa, and that's fine.
>>53703923
>>>53703828 (You)
>>That's highly subjective
>No, as far as PMPs go touchscreens suck. You need to pull your phone out of your pocket to change songs, can't change songs with gloves on, etc.
You don't need to. Most phones, when you hold the volume buttons up or down, it changes tracks. And gloves with responsive fingertips have been available for a long time now.
>>Are you saying you don't own a phone with a touchscreen as well?
>>Maybe he prefers FLAC, who knows?
>And Rockbox supports FLAC you stupid shit. Do you not know what Rockbox is?
What's with the name calling?
Look, all I said a phone may well be a viable alternative to his needs and now look what I got myself into. How come you guys are so defensive over this? Seriously.
>>53703887
>>53703976
>>53703991
>>>/reddit/
>>53702838
Replace it with a phone.
this might not be the right place but what's the cheapest, small PMP that's not absolute trash? I need one when exercising and my phone is too large.
>>53704006
A phone.
>>53703996
Because phones are ass.
>>53704028
A phone probably.
>>53704028
>I need one when exercising
no you do not
>>53704030
>>53704074
>>53704011
>>>/reddit/
>>53704053
Fine, don't use it. Maybe OP doesn't have as much a problem with phones you guys have. No need to get so upset.
>>53704094
A little tip, if you suggest a phone in a PMP thread you're asking for a shitstorm
Come on. Phone man.
>>53704120
Lol who carries PMP and a phone. Autism to the max.
>>53704120
No shit. Won't make that mistake again. Still wondering why though.
>>53704123
>>53704139
>>>/reddit/
Just use your phone, sperglord.
>>53704082
This. You can meditate instead of fillingyour head with white noise
>>53704158
>>>/autism/
>>53704154
You've been given plenty of reasons.
>>53704177
I get that people seem to be trolling with the phone solution now, but come on, I was being serious. Whatever, I'm out of here.
>>53703163
Manlet detected. 28 grams = 1 ounce.
>>53704188
>trolling
PMP in this age are obsolete. Get with the times.
>>53704208
PMPs hold more, last longer, and work better. Phones are a jack of all trades master of none sort of thing. It's cool if you're okay with mediocrity, but don't go forcing that on others.
>>53703409
This
I miss Zune, sucks iPod fucking killed it.
>>53703574
Considering picking one of these up.
Specifically the x02
Anybody own one and care to comment on it's build quality?
>>53704227
They shouldn't, but so shouldn't you.
There is seriously no reason not to just buy a cheap smartphone with sdcard slot and use that. Unless you have some severe autism that is.
>>53704286
>PMPs hold more, last longer, and work better.
none of these are true
Wow, these things break super easy. I've seen a ton of threads about broken Clips.
>>53704295
Actually they all are.
>>53704295
>hold more
depends on how big of an SD card your PMP and phone can read
>lasts longer
objectively true, my X3 has a longer battery life than any of these devices
>work better
physical buttons and better quality DAC and interface does make it work better unless you argue that you loooove touchscreen controls on smartphones
>>53704313
>Hold more
What are SD cards. Inb4 muh 500mb flac files
>Last longer
Battery wise, doubtful. Life span is easily identical if you're not a manchild.
>Works better
Except most PMP have clunky buttons and interfaces.
>>53704353
>has never owned or operated a PMP
>claims they all have bad interfaces and clunky buttons
it's fine if you are okay with playing music on a phone but some people like dedicated devices.
>>53702838
Same here.
What /g/ think about ONN X5?
>>53702838
Zune
>>53704331
>>53704353
>holds more
My iPod currently has 240GB storage, if I really wanted I could up it to 1TB. You cannot do this with a phone.
>battery wise
The only way you're going to get better battery life with a phone is if you turn off all the radios, and at that point you no longer have a phone and should have a dedicated player anyway.
>Except most PMP have clunky buttons
Better than a touchscreen
>and interfaces
Rockbox
>>53702838
>What should I replace it with?
Zune 80
>>53703575
Some people can't use phones at work because they have a camera on (IE a high security site), so a simple mp3 player is the only option. At work I use a Sansa Clip Jam and out of work I use my Sony Xperia.
>>53702838
Ruizu x02, pretty cheap and small enough to replace samsa clip
>>53704331
any phone made in the last 5 years running android can read the largest commercially available sd cards out.
you're not using it as a phone. it's not going to have any of the phone-related things on. The battery will last far longer than there is any need for it to last.
Clunky interface and controls on pmp are objectively worse than any smart phone ui.
not to mention the added benefit of having access to wifi music streaming apps if you want.
>>53702971
Seconded
what ever happened to the fiio m3?
i heard it was supposed to be the new clip
>>53704460
>get a phone
>disable the wifi and put it in airplane mode
>then use it as a music player
at that point he should just buy a dedicated music player
>wifi music streaming
OP is most likely not a peasant and listens to full albums the way the artist intended
>>53704460
>phone made in the last 5 years running android can read the largest commercially available sd cards out.
And? That's still less capacity.
>>53703220
look into the gsmarena review to see how the audio quality is.
>>53704460
>touchscreen is better than "clunky" buttons
>>53704250
It's good and cheap, but I'd recommend flashing the agptek A02 firmware. The X02 and A02 have the same hardware, so it's safe.
this thread
>What's Spotify
>MUH QUALITY MP3
>>53702838
If you can still get one, get a Coby mp601. I don't recommend it for videos, as the display is small and it only plays ".mtv" video files.
>>53704484
>the way the artist intended
With his ears, right? I doubt they give two flying fuck about the format
>>53705076
>Spotify
>wasting precious 4g megabites
>>53704394
>Making such a bold claim because I bad mouth your pathetic, obsolete technology.
I didn't have a phone until 2 years ago, so I used PMPs quite often. So speaking from experience with several of them, they are not intuitive. They are clunky as fuck.
>>53705509
>>53705509
Doesn't have unlimited data
How sad.
>>53705594
Not nearly as bad as using a touchscreen. Have you tried an iPod? They're great
>>53704680
Great advise m8, the only thing holding me back of buying a ruizu x02 was his horrible interface but agptek has been working on that. So is it hard to do?
>>53705615
Why pay monthly for unlimited data when you can just pay for what you need and carry all your music on you?
Bonus: you still have music when you have no Internet.
>>53705714
ipod has an absolutely SHIT audio drive
>>53705951
Depends on the model
>>53705615
WELCOME TO CANADA!
>>53705509
Music doesn't use up much data. Especially since Spotify uses OGG so you don't need to use the highest setting.
Plus, you're forgetting that WiFi exists.
>>53704484
>OP is most likely not a peasant and listens to full albums the way the artist intended
I'm not sure how WiFi or not plays into this. I can play 5.1 192khz FLACs on my phone. Good luck doing that on a PMP. Phones offer far more options than a dedicated PMP.
>>53704533
Less capacity than what? There isn't a PMP that could hold my library. A 512GB microSD could, though, and we're nearly there.
>>53706244
I got a nano 4, it sounds like it's trying to boost the volume and theres noticabke biberation noise.
>>53706918
>I can play 5.1 192khz FLACs on my phone. Good luck doing that on a PMP
I can do that with no problem????
>Phones offer far more options than a dedicated PMP
yeah; they make calls, can go on 4chan, etc etc they don't play music as well though!
>>53706918
>There isn't a PMP that could hold my library
there are PMPs that read off of SD cards kid & there isn't a phone in the world that can hold your music library either, unless it's all on microSDs
>>53707132
Right, which means their argument about "less capacity" is bullshit.
Just buy a brand new s3 and use it for music.
What music player besides the Clip+ can use 128GB micro sd cards?
>ipod nano sized
>e-ink display
>dual SD card slots
>quality DAC
>optional battery pack addon/amp add-on
never. ever.
I just find the clip a bit too small. If you're ever doing something active it's a pain to change song/see what's on the screen.
desu I honestly forget about so often since it's so small, and it's always dead when I go to use it due to mini-usb port. so I just end up using my phone
>>53703598
>>53703701
>>53703791
>>53703887
>>53703976
>>53703991
>>53704011
>>53704030
>>53704074
The thing is not all work places allow you to have a smart phone with you since they have cameras due to sensitive information. I have to have my smartphone locked up at security and I get a key and I collect it at the end of my shift. This also limits my choice of mp3 player but I found a decent solution - the sansa clip jam. I also have to show them my mp3 player to check that it doesn't have a camera and sign a sheet.
>>53702958
The scroll wheel on my e280 is so worn out I could probably move it with a feather. A stiff breeze would probably do it too.
>>53707581
Why do you think anyone cares about your niche use case? If you're in this situation then their general statements don't apply.
>>53702958
solution: turn your music up
Did anyone have a problem with the clip screen not working? all the gens i had the screen just stopped working, i baby my shit too.
Cheap smartphone with poweramp
>>53707996
>2016
>using PowerAmp instead of Gone Mad Music Player
That shit wasn't even cool in 2014. You probably use Chomp SMS, too.
Is there anything NEW I can use that doesn't require stupid software and plays podcasts and isn't over $80?
>>53707769
not that anon but my job has high security and its a large hurdle to bring a phone in.
i need an mp3 player
>>53702838
try to find a replacement on ebay or wherever.
Also, how did it died?
>>53704190
The US customary unit system fucking sucks cock, and this is coming from an Americunt. Metric is so fucking easy; everything is consistent and units relate to each other in multiples of 10.
>>53702838
DO NOT BUY ANY AUDIO PLAYBACK DEVICE THAT IS MANUFACTURED BY EUROPEAN COMPANIES. The European Union has a law for "hearing protection" which limits any devices' maximum volume to a level that it is unusable in any environment except for being alone in a completely silent room.
>>53702838
Why do people use a dedicated player?
>>53704244
zune killed zune, poor marketing, terrible name and lack of support / standards
>>53703119
That's such fucking bullshit, Clip+ was the fucking best, especially for its price.
>>53708765
That or we could manufacture music that plays nicely at low volume
>>53706884
i was just joking.
i have a 64 gb micro sd in my phone and i use poweramp for my music
and i use google play for the rest and cache my favorite playlists
>>53707265
>>optional battery pack addon/amp add-on
you will never find the battery pack addon but Fiio's you can get an amp and they even sell a case thingy that will hold your PMP and amp
>>53708826
you mean produce
and also its a taste thing
most kids like loud trap or whatever now
>>53702971
Fiio X1 scroll wheel is a bit touchy. but otherwise great
>>53702838
Still have one of these in my 'electronics box' saw it while grabbing a coaxial cable the other day... this was the coolest shit when i got it! It had a micro sd slot and u could put a 16gb card in which was only like 50$ back then lol
>>53702838
Would it kill companies to keep making a successful product? Fucking hell.
your phone.
>>53709521
successful products don't break and that means nobody ever buys from you again
Sony Walkman with 77 hours of battery. New ones have card slots. No reason to not get it unless 150€ is too much for you. But they last forever without breaking.
>>53707174
That Thompson dac tough
>>53704250
>Ruizu x02
I bought one. I then bought three more to give out as gifts and such.
The problems with the interface are vastly overblown, you get used to the left/right for scrolling in five minutes. There's the alternative firmware (AGPTek) if that really bothers you, but I've tried both and actually went back to the Ruizu firmware.
The battery life is fucking ace, I kinda doubt it will really do 80 hrs, but I've gotten at least 20-30 hrs of use out of it which only drained the battery to about 30%. All my other PMPs (sansas, ipods) pretty much have to be charged every night if I want to use them for a full 8-12 hours (work + car + home), whereas I can actually use the ruizu for a full day at work and home and have enough left to go for another full day or two. Only bad thing is the player will not play while charging, but since the life is so great it's not a real problem.
I'm not a professional memeophile so I can't say too much about sound quality. It sounds fine to me. The flac/ogg/etc support is nice, not because I care too much about the formats but so I don't really have to care about what format I download my music in. The sequenced ability of my rockboxed stuff (VGM, SPC, GBS etc) is neat for being able to store music from every NES game ever made etc but realistically the 2% of that I actually listen to fits just fine as 128k MP3 rips on my Ruizu as well.
I do really appreciate the five band eq that can be adjusted on-device, I use it a lot. Not as good as the Rockbox EQ, but still leagues better than your standard no-eq devices or MAYBE presets if you're lucky.
Build quality is great, get it in black. Heavy use for two months so far and no scratchy headphone jack etc. Screen has started to become *slightly* scuffed probably from keys/change and stuff in the pocket, so probably worth cutting a screen protector down to size if you care about it.
>>53707077
Try a real iPod like a Classic
>>53706918
>Less capacity than what?
1TB
>>53702838
why not just the SanDisk Zip? Thats what I did. It's basically Sansa Clip with a tiny color lcd.
just buy another clip
Disgusting plebeians.
Xduoo X2
So after 12? hrs of >>53703856 going unanswered, I conclude that there's no reason to assume PMPs have any meaningful properties or capabilities that make them better at playing music in terms of actual sound quality and that all reasons to actually get one instead of just using your phone are of secondary nature.
The most important thing is probably battery life, but here's the thing about battery life: You know, if you do have a smartphone, you're plugging it in every day or every other day anyway, *regardless* of whether you play music with it. Getting a seperate music playing device just means that you now have *two* devices you have to charge at regulary intervalls.
>>53702838
replace the battery
>>53703220
You can expect shitloads of bluetooth audio glitching due to marshmallow
>>53711851
>holds more than a smartphone can
>has actual buttons instead of a touchscreen
>can play the same "sooper speshul" formats smartphones can
>battery lasts a week plus instead of a day
How are smartphones superior again? Yes I'm the same guy from earlier.
>>53702838
Its probably the battery is dead. Just put one from old nokia in it.
>>53711954
the point is that you most likely have a music-capable phone anyway, that you need to charge it every so often anyway. The question is whether buttons, better features on a software level and muh rockbox sperg equalizers actually varrant carrying around a dedicated piece of hardware.
Regarding storage, I quite honestly think there aren't more than, let's say, 30GB of good music out there, assuming decent quality ogg/mp3. What kinds of crap do people listen to that they need more than that? Apparently some even have triple digit GB music collections, wtf.
>>53702838
I've been using a cheap-o smartphone with a 1500 mAh battery rooted with xposed/PBMC as a music player for awhile now. Works fine DESU. Just disable all the usual Google shit, put it on airplane mode and it'll run fine and the battery won't drain like a bitch.
>>53712061
>the point is that you most likely have a music-capable phone anyway, that you need to charge it every so often anyway
I do, and it needs to be charged 7-10+ times more often than my PMP
>The question is whether buttons, better features on a software level
Worth it
>Regarding storage, I quite honestly think there aren't more than, let's say, 30GB of good music out there, assuming decent quality ogg/mp3.
I have a few hundred gigs of lossless music. I find it rather retarded to have a second copy of music handy just for putting it on my PMP, so I just put the lossless music on my PMP. In the end, I still have the space to use it as a portable SSD
>>53702838
A FUCKING LEAF
