A reminder that Nokia is still unbeaten in sensor size and image quality on a phone.
>>53635152
that's still shit compared to a proper camera though
thats all great and dandy, but too bad its paired with a phone i don't want to use.
>>53635377
this
windows phone is such a shitty os compared to android/ios
What is the Panasonic cm1?
>>53635357
>your STi is still shit compared to a proper race car though
>>53635141
Reminder that nobody cares because serious photographs just use their DSLR and normal people don't give a shit about image quality when they buy a phone.
>>53635141
>1/1.2-inch
the fuck does that mean? 1 divided by 1.2 inches?
why? what's wrong with 0.83"? or real measurements like 21mm?
>>53635734
it's the way they used to measure image sensors back before the invention of igneous rocks, when they were glass tubes. A 1/1.2" sensor does not actually measure 0.83 inches on either side or the diagonal. Reason being the old sensors were circular and made of thick glass (they were similar to CRTs) so the sensor was only a bit in the middle.
They stuck with this stupid system for the same reason hard-drive makers insist that a terabyte means 10^12 bytes instead of 2^40 bytes - it makes the numbers describing their product look bigger than they really are.
>>53635141
what is panasonic cm1?
>>53635880
huh, so how big IS a '1/1.2"' sensor?
>>53635959
10.67mm wide by 8mm high. Which is a diagonal of 13.33mm and an area of 85.33 mm^2. It has a crop factor, relative to "full frame" of 3.24.
an inch is 25.4mm, btw
>>53635959
also, how is "1/1.2" meant to be pronounced? i can't imagine "one divided by one point two inches" being very convinient (compared with "point eight three inches")
>>53636032
is that from a spec sheet, or is there a standard means of deriving these numbers from the 1/1.2"?
>>53636058
>Sensor sizes are expressed in inches notation because at the time of the popularization of digital image sensors they were used to replace video camera tubes. The common 1" circular video camera tubes had a rectangular photo sensitive area about 16mm diagonal, so a digital sensor with a 16 mm diagonal size was a 1" video tube equivalent. The name of a 1" digital sensor should more accurately be read as "one inch video camera tube equivalent" sensor. Current digital image sensor size descriptors are the video camera tube equivalency size, not the actual size of the sensor. For example, a 1" sensor has a diagonal measurement of 16mm.[24][25]
>Sensor formats of digital cameras are mostly expressed in the non-standardized "inch" system as approximately 1.5 times the length of the diagonal of the sensor. This "optical format" measure goes back to the way image sizes of video cameras used until the late 1980s were expressed, referring to the outside diameter of the glass envelope of the video camera tube. David Pogue of The New York Times states that "the actual sensor size is much smaller than what the camera companies publish – about one-third smaller." For example, a camera advertising a 1/2.7" sensor does not have a sensor with a diagonal of 0.37"; instead, the diagonal is closer to 0.26".[26][27][28] Instead of "formats", these sensor sizes are often called types, as in "1/2-inch-type CCD."
>Due to inch-based sensor formats being not standardized, their exact dimensions may vary, but those listed are typical.[27] The listed sensor areas span more than a factor of 1000 and are proportional to the maximum possible collection of light and image resolution (same lens speed, i.e., minimum F-number), but in practice are not directly proportional to image noise or resolution due to other limitations. See comparisons.[29][30] Film format sizes are included for comparison.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_sensor_format
There's a big table of em there, too.
>>53636090
man, still/motion imagery is rife with legacy baggage, isn't it?
>>53635386
Lagfaggot detected.
>>53635141
Since you insist on carrying two devices might as well get a real camera
Is sensor size the biggest determinant of image quality (apart from lens, everyone uses Sony lenses)
