Red pill me on Mini ITX builds
Quit speaking in memes, you fucking tit, and ask a proper question.
>>53624428
>Red pill me
let me 'red pill' you on yourself, you are TRASH.
>>53624428
>Red pill me on Mini ITX builds
Hobby builds for people that have convinced themselves through the power of marketing that they need a small form factor PC for some fucking reason.
>>53624486
That makes no sense, we are moving forward to make smaller things with each year, so why not small and compact PC's as well with optimal performance to it?
>>53624455
>Quit speaking in memes, you fucking tit
Whats the /g/ (Technology) community opinion on small factor PC builds based on Mini ITX motherboards and Mini ITX cases?
Better?
>>53624501
Smaller is better, yeah. We're just not there yet. Mini ITX builds are still filled with compromises for power users and the cost-benefit of building one isn't there yet with high quality ITX cases often costing more than an equivalent quality ATX case. They are only trivially more portable than an ATX mid-tower considering how awkward it already is to transport a PC monitor and needed peripherals.
>>53624514
They're great. I regret building a full ATX.
Build what you want, into the smallest form-factor you can do. Remember later expansion.
>>53624514
Yes, much better.
Personally I've built several mITX builds and I think they fill a role. They do cost more relative to their performance . They are harder to build, in the sense that you have to do a proper compatibility check before ordering parts, getting cables out of the way is both harder and more important, and just working inside the case is harder if you have large hands. There are only 2 RAM slots, but with DDR4 I do not believe it to be a problem anymore. Single expansion slot means you can only use one card, presumably GPU, and that's it. However integrated network is generally good enough, if you're serious about sound you'll be opting for external anyway. I guess that leaves shit like RAID controllers out of the picture.
>tldr
Either mITX or E-ATX, anything in between is kind of moot
>>53624594
>>53624594
I have a micro ATX but i have a gigabyte 980
what cases can i fit my shit into?
>>53624621
mATX or mITX? One of the smallest mATX cases with wide compatibility is SG10. Kind of ugly/utilitarian though.
>>53624514
Why bother with mITX restrictions, the footprint of mITX cases isn't really smaller than that of a reasonably sized ATX case and putting your PC on your Desk is something for neckbeards.
>>53624632
micro ATX. I have a behemoth fractal R4 at the moment
z87m extreme4
>>53624634
>PC on the floor
No pets or small children, huh?
>>53624514
Cute, easy to move, easier to hide, and that's about it, that said if I could've switched from full ATX to mITX or mATX for a decent price during my rebuild I would have but motherboard selection, crossfire, and my PSU stopped me
>>53624643
I don't think there's anything to be gained from exchanging an R4 if it's just to get something smaller for the sake if getting something smaller.
>>53624697
Jesus christ, why do you need SLI or crossfire for?
>>53624708
Already had it, knowing what I know now I would've sold my 7970 for a better card instead of falling for crossfire.
If you go with MicroATX you can fit up to four expansion cards and still have something that fits nicely on a countertop.
>>53624697
>f I could've switched from full ATX to mITX or mATX for a decent price during my rebuild I would have but motherboard selection, crossfire, and my PSU stopped me
There are mitx/matx cases where you can fit sli/x-fire
>>53624859
Is that your computer? What is that supposed to run?
>>53624878
it runs video games
>>53624885
Why would you be playing videogames? You're not under 18 are you?
>>53624428
If you need counter space, you can just nail your computer to the wall.
>>53624859
Wasn't in the budget or feasible with after market cooler on my stock 7970 and long fucking 1000w P2 PSU
>>53624546
Portable monitors running on HDMI are available.
>>53624859
>not running 300 installations of gentoo simultaneously
>I seriously sure hope you guys don't do this
>>53624905
delete this
>>53624634
>>53624632
>>53624594
>>53624574
Mini-itx owner here. I regret going Mini-itx because I had to budget. If I had gone micro-atx I'd have a Z170 instead of an H110i and I can't crossfire on my particular case.
>>53624634
This. Mini ITX is pretty meme-tier right now. I stand by what I said earlier that Mini ITX still basically only exists to serve a hobbyist market. ("I'm going to build one of these because I can.")
So called "nano" and "pico" ITX OEM NUC-like stuff will probably take off in business offices and maybe the home as time goes on, but I think that is some years before becoming mainstream. At least those form factors are small enough to be markedly different than ATX. mITX cases just aren't small enough to be interesting.
Shill (for free) reporting in.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kimeraindustries/cerberus-by-kimera-industries-the-18l-matx-us-made
>>53624945
>doesn't compare the case to 23L SG9 and SG10
Hah!
>>53624905
Fuck this gets me hard.
>>53624945
no usb-c?
>>53625073
this gets me mad
>>53625112
Why? What's in it that could fuck shit up? Cleaning is a breeze, you don't need to fuck with screws in tight spaces, only problem may be cable management outside of the "case".
>>53624802
>Toaster flies away.
If you go mitx go with an APU, the a10 7890k with the wraith cooler just came out. $150 for 1080p gaming without a dedicated gpu.
>>53624514
They're great as long as you don't need top of the line hardware or a huge overclock.
>>53625834
I don't overclock and I need a good small pc that can handle 1080p with smooth frame rate and high settings for modern games
>>53626053
What's your budget? I'm planning to get an ITX system myself
It's really cute, but the really small cases don't have any cable management. LxW for this case is like 9.5 x 7.4, but everything is really tight
>>53626196
750~1000 Euro
>>53626196
>>53626288
oh and I have already PSU, pic related and GTX760 Mini (yeah quote old but I'm content with it so far)
>>53625834
Define "huge" overclock. I have a 3770k in a Node 304. Ran Prime95 at 4.5GHz 1.25V - stays under 75c. And all I've got is a 212 Evo with two NF-F12 fans. I'll try pushing it further after delidding.
That rig has no mouse! There's your Red Pill!
>>53626306
Alrighty, any other preferences, such as Intel or AMD, or case?
>>53626329
>Case
I have an eye for 3 options
Corsair 250D
Corsair AIR 240
Lian Li PC-05S
>Intel or AMD
I think I will go with Intel, I don't need to OC and I will try to get a water cooling option for it if possible.
>>53626363
My own build will look a little like this: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/dyqysY
I used German pcpartpicker, so prices may vary of course depending on where you live.
You can always save some money on buying an aircooler instead of the h60, or get an i7 6700 (non-K) because you didn't want to overclock or i5 6600(K) if you want to save even more money.
>>53626458
nice setup, I have already HDD and SSD and I will change cpu to i5 6600
>h60
That water cooling thing is quite must have because air flow is quite tight so its good.
>>53626497
If you decide to go with the 250D, I recommend swapping out the 140mm intake fan with a 200mm one. If you do so bear in mind you'll also need a fan grill because of the PSU placement, otherwise the cables will get caught in the fan lol.
>>53626363
You're on the wrong site. Fuck off
>>53626563
AMD shill spotted
>>53624428
>using MRA memes
>>>/r/eddit
>>53624905
>dust/10
They're awesome. I got a CM Elite 110 build, its perfect <3
>>53626563
And you are on the wrong board, here is the shortcut to satisfy your daily needs so you could calm yourself >>>/b/
>>53624428
ITX builds are basically just semi mobile work stations with a slightly bigger price tag than comparable full size builds
Now the real question is does /g/ still hate mitx motherboards in full ATX cases
>>53626609
redpill =/= /r/leredpill
red pill is from matrix
>>53624428
mini ITX doesnt necessarily mean "mini" like in your post. it's just a form factor and a limiting one at that
>>53627670
>5.1 speaker setup
>all the speakers are within 1 meter of each other
looks like gamer boy cancer to me
Is Micro-ATX the best /g/? I'm planning my first build and it seems I have no reason to pick ATX over Micro-ATX seeing as I'm never going to use giga-niga quad sli or any other of the extended features.
What do most people build these days anyway?
>>53627750
I personally like small formfactor pc's. Going to do an x99 micro atx build myself in the near future.
Ive put together mini itx builds on paper so many times
Always the same conclusion: not worth the effort, pointless, but cute.
They're shitty builds for no purposes
>>53627750
Yep. mATX boards are also usually cheaper than full ATX ones for virtue of being exactly the same but with less expansion in the way,
Using full ATX nowadays is retarded tier unless you really "need" the space to build a monster RAID, and at that point you should wonder if a separate NAS would be a better solution. There's nothing more cringy that going into rig threads and seeing all those 12 year old kids with a single GPU, one SSD, one HDD and a sub-600W PSU in an xbox-hueg full ATX tower without enough fans to avoid it turning into an oven.
While I play games I don't buy the top end graphics cards and I don't overclock so I don't need space for full size cards or massive cooling solutions.
>>53624486
Everything else has gotten smaller and more efficient in computing. Why cases have stayed the same is beyond me.
>>53624632
I can fit a 980 in a sg-08 lite.
>>53624653
If you want Mini-ITX, make sure to go with pic related. It comes with free pedestal to keep your mini up off the ground.
>>53627845
They serve my purposes well. A shitty build is buying more than you need or can use.
>>53629391
>A shitty build is buying more than you need or can use.
Like a full ATX case.
>have full ATX from years ago
>only expansion card is a graphics card
>three empty 5.25" bays
>five empty 3.5" bays
>more fans that i need even though it is still pretty quiet
It's just not required. It's heavy and a pain in the ass to relocate.
Bought mine as a headless media server running on centos with emby, sickrage, couchpotato, transmission-daemon and openvpn.
I can just hide it in a corner and forget about it.
Are there really any good mATX cases that are actually small and compact?
Thoughts on the Node 202?
I always viewed Mini-ITX more for niche projects, like NAS storage, PFsense routers, or certain linux builds. Or just stuff in general that needs to be more compact or not take up as much power or space.
Maybe it is just me, but I would rather go Micro-ATX or normal ATX for Windows or normal PC projects.
>>53624428
No reason not to mITX.
>>53624428
You might as well just use a laptop with a dock and an external GPU if you gave so much of a shit about space, it's not like you're interested in expandability or using your computer as anything but an internet appliance or gaming console anyway.
I have three ITX builds that I'm putting together and I need a place to put them all. None of them use full-size PCI brackets or have heatsinks taller than the rear IO shield.
Apart from a server rack, are there any cases that are small, thin, and stackable so I can pile them on top of each other or something?
>>53625564
You think the A10 7889K or the Athlon X4 880k will be any better than the FX4300 for emulating?
>>53630332
Antec ISK 300-150? How stackable does it need to be?
>>53630404
I have that ikea shelf with the open square cubbies. They all need to fit inside one of those cubbies, so about 13"x13" (LxH)
>>53630370
The X4 860k is already better at single-threaded performance than the FX-4300. I'd say that the 880k and a dedicated graphics card would be your best bet at cheap emulation.
Avoid the 7890k if you can unless your emulating a PS1 game or similar.
>>53630475
Cool,thanks. What kind of GPU would you recommend pairing with the 880k? I'm going to be centering my new build around the BitFenix Prodigy M case.
>>53630444
Well that Antec ISK300-150 is a little less than 4in high so you could stack 3 of them easily. Same with this Streacom F7C which is slightly cheaper/cleaner with the expense of 5,25" slot. They both have a low profile PCI-e slot at the back too.
![DSC_0142[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TBAgAl0.jpg "DSC_0142[1].jpg")
I fell for the ITX meme a while ago.
The cooling in this case was rubbish so I used a dremel to add some fans to the front.
>>53630556
Thanks
should i get a node 304 or the thermaltake suppressor f1?
>>53630572
>closed loop water cooling
ITX is not the only meme you fell for
>>53630572
any case that doesn't take air from the front is shit. from the bottom the air intake is far more restricted and the air flow inside the case will be shit since it'll first hit your GPU and then the CPU, and from the top you're working against the raising hot air day and have the reverse problem where the air doesn't hit the GPU till it first reached the CPU.
>>53630687
>from the top you're working against the raising hot air
Stop posting about shit you know nothing about. Natural convection is so weak that a single fan at low rpm will completely destroy it without any problems. It also doesn't matter at all for the temps whether the flow is from the back to front or the other way around.
>>53624905
triggered
I kind of want to build a mini fanless/solid state desktop. I don't have a lot of space so I'm going to have to either sit it on the desk, or have a flat one under the monitor.
Plus, I miss having silent and solid computers that didn't need a fan over every component. I'm not fussed about specs as I've been using an old T60 with 1.8ghz(x2) and 2GB of RAM for over a year now.
>>53630997
I'd say a A4-5000 motherboard or a N3150 motherboard would suit your needs. Very low power consumption plus very low heat (I run a N3700 ITX board on a laptop power brick and the CPU rarely goes over 60 degrees even when running two VMs) makes for the perfect out-of-sight-out-of-mind always on build.
Just don't expect too much from it (like playing uncompressed 4K videos or playing AAA games beyond 720p low quality) and it will serve you well.
>>53624546
larger builds also have their compromises
>takes up space
>typically more expensive
>more power
I don't see anything at all wrong with a mini build if you don't _need_ a huge computer, which most people dont. I have a full-sized build but I have been toying with the idea of building a mini pc or getting a mac mini for fun
>>53630444
>that ikea shelf with the open square cubbies
Airflow could be an issue here as well, if the cases are large
>>53626609
You see boogeyman everywhere, huh?
Also, small form factor needs more time to be worth it.
>>53630773
you're still working against it, you dumb nigger. i never said anything about it's strength or back vs front mattering. in fact, i said that a front intake should be mandatory so you can have the flow front to back instead of some retarded top to bottom or top/bottom to back flow.
>>53624428
>redpill me
So you want me to fabricate lies and sell them to you?
>>53631466
butthurt kike detected
>>53631238
I'll look in to them. Really I just want something more in to the 2.*GHZ realm, and maybe about 4GB of RAM. Since most games I play are DOSBox, with the occasional PC game that's not much older than the games I emulate, games aren't using much, and I rarely see Firefox use about 400MB (whole xubuntu system using about 600MB/2000MB). Being forced to use something for so long made me realise how little I needed that massive black monolith I put together years ago.
>>53631483
qq moar /pol/ack piece of shit
>>53631484
I know Biostar makes an embedded ITX mobo with the A6-5200 APU that runs at 2.0 GHz
(Biostar A68N-5200), but an Intel J1900 motherboard might also fit your need, if you don't mind using SATA2 ports rather than SATA3.
>>53624905
>4 monitors and still using split-screen windows
kill yourself
>>53631461
>you're still working against it
Try doing some research, kid. When you have a fan moving the air the forces "against" it caused by natural convection are so close to 0 that it doesn't matter at all. You're overestimating the whole "raising hot air" thing.
>>53630475
>>53630526
The a10 7870k can emulate dreamcast/GameCube/Wii just fine and play most games around 900/1080p....no need for a gpu!!!
>>53626220
Make custom cables.
>have mITX server/NAS with 2x 3.5" drives
>moving to new country, taking board and drives with
>looking for new mITX case
>all new cases only have one 3.5" slot, focusing more on multiple 2.5" drives
>all new cases are big compared to my current case
And then I found the PC-Q29. Taller than my current case but not as deep or wide, up to three 3.5" with room for some 2.5" as well. Not enough space for anything but the shortest expansion cards but that isn't important.
It's beautiful.
>>53624546
>power users
Found the gaymer
>>>/v/
>>53624428
When you make it work, it's glorious.
It just takes more planning, work and blood.
Also your pic is micro atx size
corsair's definition of SFF is retarded
>>53624920
link faggot
seriously
I'm thinking of bulk ordering Lemote LX-6101 Mini-ITX motherboards for a LTSP thin client project. One LX-2503 would be the server.
>>53631904
It's not going to be VR compatible. Why do you hate future proofing.
>>53631894
>5.25" slot
beatiful my ass
lian li needs to lose the 5.25" meme
>>53632126
I might actually put an optical drive in there. It is possible I will need an optical drive available on my network (for ripping CDs, DVDs and BDs).
mITX is good if you want:
>absolutely no room for expansion
>gimped airflow
>loud whirring noise from AIO cooler running at full speed
>only 2 drives or less
Basically it's just a box that gets very hot. It's not even about saving any space, most of the time it's sitting on the desk, takes around as much space as an S340.
>>53632166$ sensors
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +27.8°C (crit = +105.0°C)
temp2: +29.8°C (crit = +105.0°C)
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0: +33.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +29.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +31.0°C (high = +80.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Yeah, can't get much hotter than this.
It's good, but you'll have a tougher time with cable management, and will pay a little more for the case and motherboard.
>>53624455
fuck off if you cant understand simple lingo
>>53624428
I think mITX sacrifices too much for the sake of being smaller. I like mATX. You keep most of the functionality and expandability of ATX, cost is the same, and you can still get a build that's much smaller than ATX.
>>53624905
4 monitors
>those cheap ass speakers
>>53627719
youre like the 30th person to point out that one aspect of this year old photo from another flat I dont live in anymore
>>53633439
the monitors are also cheap
>>53630773
next he'll tell us the proper order for a watercooling loop, lulz
>>53633396
thats a big case
>>53624514
if you are not overclocking and don't care to build a maxed out spec computer, you'll be fine. Problem is to get a decent case with room for a gpu that handles your shit. The whole point is to make it small as possible, yet some retards start with a mini-ITX and go for the biggest video card with watercooling and a huge (for mini-ITX standards) case to house that defeating the purpose.
Don't be that guy.
>>53629711
Not many...
Three that do come to mind are the Silverstone Temjin TJ08-E, the Fractal Node 804, and the Thermaltake Core V21.
>>53633695
>Problem is to get a decent case with room for a gpu that handles your shit
pic related, its a meme card but I think I have seen similar sizes from other company somewhere......
>>53633695
Or no GPU if you don't need one, or got an APU.
I think that's the divide.
GPU -> MATX
APU -> MITX
Solid state MITXs are super comfy.
>>53633672
For you
On average, it's not as big as an ATX case and it's not as small as an ITX case. Roughly the Some size as the Corsair Air 240.
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>>53633790
I don't think that's really the case (no pun intended).
Generally I advise people based on effort and budget.
If you want the cheapest system possible for its respective of its specs, mATX all the way. Some mATX cases are pretty fucking small as it is.
If you are the kind of person to burn a bit of money on a case, consider ITX. An NCase M1 is meant to fit a full-sized graphics card, for instance (and if you don't have a full-sized graphics card in there, it actually feels like a waste of space, I would know, I have an R9 Nano in one and it feels kind of dumb). Plus you have a bit of a premium on SFX PSUs and ITX mobos.
Also most ITX first time builders aren't prepared for the work to make an ITX system good. You can stuff all the stock cables in there and make the system work, but it's pretty shitty. Custom cable lengths and adapters (90 degree or reverse orientation cables) are the difference between a good ITX system and a spaghetti monster.
>>53632059.
Gechic 2501H.
>>53633732
yeah but before trying to build one I would first check what card and case I can get. Then start spending money.
>>53624859
>those specs
christ.
>>53624859
>dat specs tho
>>53624859
>All those Hard Drivers.
What case bruh.
>>53633822
By volume its probably the same if not larger than a standard medium sized atx tower
I have the same case senpai
I'm a dif anon though
On one hand, I appreciate how they managed to build one of the most space efficient chassis, but then again, why does it have to be so goddamn ugly?
>>53634361
>what is Corsair 250D
>>53634384
>miniITX
>window
No thanks.
>>53624486
>I hate doing things different and possibly fun
I like the portability of most mini ITX builds. I travel a fair amount, so I like having the power of a desktop in a small form factor. The only issue I have is monitors. I can't find a quality monitor that I consider portable.
>>53624428
>Be manufacturer
>Need to build smaller looking PC case
>Go full autism and make it into a cube that winds up taking more surface space than a mini tower
Mini ITX cubes are fucking retarded unless your desk is in a hole or something. Manufacturers made them fatter to compensate the reduced height.
I always suggest people to just get a compact mini tower. You don't have to compromise PCI slots and you end up paying less since standard ATX boards are like half the cost.
If you absolutely have to get mini itx, get something that's the same thickness as a tower.
>>53634712
I agree with this sentiment. I dislike cubes, prefer towers. For the mini ITX platform, I like the creative design solutions some case makers come up with. I'm actually about to move my mini out of a corsair 380t and into a silverstone raven, which ever version happens to be available at the next brick and mortar store I go to.
What do you guys think of the Node 202? Anyone using it for an HTPC build? What are your experiences with it?
>>53624428
meh, just grab a liva, it's cheaper and smaller
>>53634962
If you're considering the raven mini-itx, have you checked out their FTZ01? It's the same thing but with a metal exterior, I think it looks much better.
>>53635163
It's also an extra $45 compated to the RVZ01B, and an extra $65 more than the RVZ02.
>>53624486
Towers are a waste of space, few people use 4x pci cards and shit anymore.
I've had several, and made several m-ITX builds. I like them. I think they're sufficient for most people, and if you choose the right case, even the larger ones can be significantly smaller than other cases. IE, the NZXT Manta is big, for an ITX case. But it's probably one of the smallest cases with dual 240mm radiator support.
My current case supports a 240mm radiator, and I started ordering some components to set up my own custom loop.
>>53624945
>ATX case
DROPPED
If your mitx case can fit a matx board it's not small enough
Someone recommend me a mitx case that
-has enough room for a dual rad
-has visibility to the inside of the case
and
-that is as absolutely small as possible while supporting a fullsize GPU and the aforementioned stuff
I'd just get an ncase but they're expensive af and the only logical radiator position blocks out any possible visibility
>>53635431
Maybe the Phanteks Evolv ITX. But that's still on the larger size.
I'm doing a mod when I water cool my M1, for a window. Something similar to this guy's.
>>53635551
If I got an m1 I just wouldn't have the side on ever, have it look like this
>>53635580
I like how that build has two 240mm radiators. I can't though, I need more storage, and want to keep it local.
>>53635603
tphb that guy fucked up by having the second rad so close to the GPU, it's gonna be choked as shit
>>53635614
I've thought about that too. I'm just going to do a 38mm thick 240mm. I've thought about doing a full size panel mod for a window and just mounting the rad externally with some QDC's.
>>53624634
>builds full atx
>only has 1 gpu
Look at muh airflow. Fucking pleb
>>53624859
Now buy a decent camera, fag.
>>53635640
I'm considering just getting the PC-Q10 (a mod of the case that's somehow cheaper?) or PC-Q17 and then mounting the radiator externally
In 2014 I replaced my aging Q6600 build with a mATX build in a Corsair 350D (left half of pic). The "mini tower" was a nice form factor, enough space to comfortably work in, and it was easy to carry around with a Gear Grip harness (highly recommended, btw). Not that much smaller than a mid-tower, mind you. Took it to a few LANs, friends' places, moved it to another room for couch gaming, that kind of thing. Quite nice.
Come 2016, the mATX build was still working fine, but to be honest, I didn't need to move the case around that much, it spent most of its time on my desk. I had the upgrade itch, but I didn't want to buy new graphics cards when Polaris/Pascal were just around the corner, so I tided myself over by buying a larger case with shitloads of rad (right half of pic). I fucking love it to bits.
Whether you want or need a small build is really up to you, but you should be honest about your reasons. They can be nice if you would carry it around a lot. Really, if you just like having a small, cute computer on your desk, that's perfectly fine. It's your money, do whatever you want with it.
If you feel that you're making too many compromises than it's worth, you probably shouldn't do it. For example, if you're like me and like having lots of radiator area, small builds are not for you. Maybe the convenience of the smaller build just doesn't outweigh the extra effort involved in building it.
Whatever you do, don't be one of those "Stop liking what I don't like" faggots who insist that your build has to be as small as humanly possible for the hardware. So what if my raspberry pi build is in a full tower? Fuck you, maybe I just like full towers. It's not taking up space on YOUR desk, is it?
I have this case. It's super useful because I travel (an unheard of concept to most people itt apparently) and it fits snugly inside a carry on. If you play video games a mITX build is way better than a shitty, overheating laptop. No I don't bring it with me on short trips.
>>53635285
>But it's probably one of the smallest cases with dual 240mm radiator support.
Manta is a fucking joke. The Compact Splash guys made a mATX case HALF the size that fits THREE 240mm rads.
>>53637400
The guy making Project MATX is not the same guy that made the Compact Splash, though it is derived from it. Too bad he had to go and lie about its dimensions to make it seem smaller than it is, though.
>>53624428
you know you wan one bb
>>53637722
Is that a Dark Rock TF? What motherboard? I want that cooler over the C14 but I heard there's compatibility issues. Do you like it with the Ncase?
Builds that cost more, come with boards with elss features, and perform worse and take up around the same desk space.
I saw one person that lugged a mini-itx computer with a handle between his house and his office and his classroom where he had dual monitors setup at all locations. He is the only person I have ever seen that had a justified need for a Mini-ITX setup.
If you want to do it for aesthetic reasons do it for aesthetic reasons. But for me the extra money I would be paying would make it one of the most expensive decorations in my room.
Nazi Mods deleted my thread, rate my poverty build (aiming for low wattage), where can I improve (might upgrade the processor).
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DkXqK8
>>53638013
Fuck off
>>>/wsr/
>>53624428
Where does your mouse go
>>53638035
Fuck off faggot, PC build generals have popped up now and then, its 2AM and nobody is up so I dropped it in a MATX build thread because its a MATX. Now, tell me whats good or bad about it.
>>53638087
I would have helped you until you revealed how much of a faggot you were. Now you can fuck off lol.
>>53635285
>But it's probably one of the smallest cases with dual 240mm radiator support.
>47 FUCKING LITRES
You do know that there are 40 litre midtowers, right?
We're posting master-race cases now?
>>53638436
If your case was masterrace it would have a side on it.
>>53638452
It usually has. I just took it off for the photo, Mr. Smartypants.
>>53638353
fuck you man.
Ill suck ur dick man
Media boxes for the TV, or little server machines.
That's about it.
>>53637722
> 3.5
I personally refer to them as OvenATX cases.
They are good for when you want your components well fried to go with them French fries.
>>53638546
the 3.5 meme only applies to the GTX 970, that is clearly a 980 pictured
I'm going m-ITX on my next build. My requirements have really plateaued, so there's no point going big when I can get more leg room and stick a box about the size of a PS2 on my desk, under my PS2.
>>53624905
>rear speakers at the front
Triggered
>>53634384
>>53634476
>guy brings up a 23L _mATX_ case
>better suggest a 28L _mITX_ case
fucking moron
>>53635368
>ATX case
it's a mATX case
>If your mitx case can fit a matx board it's not small enough
if your mATX case can fit a mATX board it's exactly the right fucking size
Get on my level.
>>53641542
Coll fridge
>>53624514
NEVER GO FULL IDIOTA.
m-atx is the lowest you should go, i-tx is a risk you're putting in. When one of you ram slots busted with fucked up IC, you get one ram slot left.
PCI-E x1 fucked up and you need a few extra 3.0 ? well you only have so many..well maybe the only one. Prices are pretty expensive overall in terms of reliability and future planning.
Been running matx for a decade now.
>>53641657
/g/ convinced me...
Fine, I will go with micro ITX build with pic related case, but I will look forward for the future of small PC builds how do they will evolve...
Any case that looks like Next cube?
>>53633396
We have the same logitech speakers.
What DAC are you using btw? I'm considering buying one myself.
>>53635014
I just built inside of one. As an HTPC build I wouldnt, unless you have something to use as an external Media storage. only two 2.5inch drives slots makes for poor storage options
>>53624428
as far as I know too little benefit of space vs loss of cooling ability with micro-atx
>>53624428
No. Stay le blue pilled XD
>>53624428
>Red pill me on Mini ITX builds
They are shit. There. That's how you red pill yourself on every situation. How do I red pill myself on remote controls? Tell yourself they are shit. Done. Redpill.exe executed
>>53624486
>wow, I sure am glad that I have those four 5.35 optical bays I will never use and 5 free PCI slots!
I built a mITX system last year, and although the bitfenix prodigy is pretty damn big as far as mITX goes, it still has a decent bit of space available. big enough to install the corsair h100i in the top and the front has enough room to swap out whatever the front fan is with a bigger cooler master 200mm fan.
I've only got a gtx 660 vidcard and I should be able to upgrade to something a bit newer these days, I just haven't got the cash.
I think that mITX is still a viable build today, and its not going away anytime soon.
>>53638464
Then its not master.
>mini-ITX case shopping for low power fanless desktop
>all these cases that have room for full size PSUs, and more bays than the machine has SATA ports
It's clearly only mITX compatible, so why label it as exclusively mITX?
>>53624546
Lan party enthusiast here. Buy a second set of all the large peripherals and keep them at the host's house if you're setting a routine. A second monitor & speakers won't set you back too far financially and eliminates the two most difficult things to transport thanks to bulk, weight, and fragility. If you don't mind using cheap keyboard & mouse you host might have an extra set on hand or just get something on sale from you favorite online store. That just leaves the tower. That's where Mini ITX really shines. I can carry it around with one hand. I can fit one on my motorcycle. I don't have to awkwardly maneuver a large case and hope I don't dent a car door on the way in. My mid tower- not so much.
>>53624621
I wanted a cube case with decent room so I got a Thermaltake Core V21.
It's fucking great. look it up.
>>53631279
>I have been toying with the idea of building a mini pc or getting a mac mini for fun
This is the literal definition of a hobby build. You don't need shit, you just think the idea of building a "smallish" PC is cool. Also, once again, good mITX shit is not cheap.
>>53631904
He said smaller and compact with optimal performance. Can't have both yet, fuccboi.
>>53647772
You are like the 0.1% of PC builders that actually have a use for mITX then, so for you it makes sense. 99.9% of the people buying mITX shit just thought it looked cool on the latest Linus Shill Tips video and wanted something to blow some money on that wouldn't make them feel guilty.
>"I-it has a much smaller footprint"
Holy shit do you guys live in closets?
>>53624905
>quadraphonic
>4 speakers on front row
why do people do this?
>>53624428
>Red pill me
How about you kill yourself?
>>53624546
/thread
I built a Mini-ITX build recently and came to the same conclusion. Way too many compromises. Returned all the parts.
Micro ATX though is actually superior to ATX, but Mini ITX just isn't there yet.
>>53624903
The average gamer is 31 years old.
Honestly if you don't play games these days, you're a weirdo.
>>53626609
>>>/cuck/
>>53627750
Yes Micro ATX is god tier. Best price performance ratio and high compatibility.
There is almost no reason to build full ATX anymore, unless you are doing something very very high end.
>>53624905
>split screening
>pandora
>ribbit
>(2) T W O Youtube windows
>adobememe
Now you just need 1 screen with a giant pie chart and you'll look like any mac fag thinking they're productive.
>>53631495
C U C K
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>>53631904
Found the faggot
>>53624428
imagine having a computer...
that's smaller
also they tend to be a hell of a lot harder to build in, and for some reason cost a lot more than you would expect (probably because the meme is in full swing)
>>53634384
250D is Micro ATX
>>53633822
The 200mm fan in this is so crap. Wish they'd bundled something actually useful.
>Red pill me on Mini ITX builds
It's like a regular build, but small, and thus has the pros and cons of less overall air space. I have one right now, and while I do wish I had one extra PCI-E slot for a better audio card, I also only have this computer still on the basis that I could carry it through an airport using the same luggage bag I was holding my clothes in, so hey, compromises.
If you aren't willing to research past this and figure out the setup yourself, then you're likely gonna fuck it up anyways since the end result is a lot of fragile parts sitting very close to each other
>>53641734
You mean micro-ATX
>>53651086
Nevermind it's the 350D that is Micro-ATX, 250D is Mini-ITX
>>53624514
This phrasing comes off as so much more intelligent.
>>53638606
Really?
>>53624486
I have had several situations come up recently where I wished I could take my tower PC somewhere and set it up.
I could still, but it's 50 lbs and huge, with a lot of parts inside I wouldn't want to move around too much.
I can see the appeal of these machines.
>>53635431
looks like spaghetti.
There's nothing more cringy that going into rig threads and seeing all those 12 year old kids with a single GPU, one SSD, one HDD and a sub-600W PSU in an xbox-hueg full ATX tower without enough fans to avoid it turning into an oven.
>>53628504
Tfw this is exactly your build thinking you'd need the spacefor a music studio build. -sadllama-
