okay here we go guys, im going to install arch on a virtual machine.
because I am only slightly above computer literate i am going to be using an install script.
you're welcome to follow along and input any memes or negative comments.
h..here i go
>boot up the media
I just did this with no scripts and its still bone fucking simple
>>53624411
It's not hard at all faggot
Do it faggot
>>53624426
Go back to your barn amish no one wants you here
if memtest passes the with no errors and says esc to quit does that mean its done?
>>53624418
im going to be installing the environment as well
okay lets get the script. i'll use archfi cause its been around for awhile and it's worked on my chinkpad
>wget archfi.sourceforge.net/archfi
>sh archfi
>>53624435
Yes
>>53624411
A basic Arch install is literally just an exercise in following instructions. It's not even hard.
You only need actual GNU/Linux skill when you're using more complicated setup.
>>53624444
nice quads, also thanks
>>53624418
>>53624426
it gets even more simple when you setup partitions using a non-meme tool, i.e. the stellar gparted live cd, instead of the braindamaged and actually harmful cli parted that will very happily delete entire partitions without warning.
>>53624456
>I am too stupid to use parted
im setting up the partitions now
you basically want a boot partition, swap partition and root partition.
>sda1 - boot
>sda2 - swap
>sda 3 - root
>>53624476
> have an extended partition (pretty much necessary for dual-boot)
> said partition has multiple logical partitions with data on them
> try to resize one of said logical partitions in parted
> the entire extended partition is now deleted
thx rms
>>53624496
>swap-partition
2 things are wrong here.
first, ram is dead cheap nowdays.
so there is no need for swap anyways since its a relict of older times where you had like 512mb.
second, when you need swap, make a swap file.
>>53624476
You honestly don't beleive intelligence is measured by preference to use some partioning tool over another, do you? I really hope you aren't this retarded.
>>53624456
I use cfdisk
>>53624563
I belive that if you randomly delete shit while using a simple fucking piece of software and blame the software afterwards you are stupid.
>>53624496
You dont need any partitions i set mine up on one and only one i used to do a / /boot / home but i decided i was too lazy this time
>>53624556
>>53624603
this was the way ive always done it. Is it wrong if it still works?
okay, just finished installing base. setting up the fstab now
>>53624595
Well, if the user screws things up using a simple piece of software (parted) but is doing fine with a more complex one (gparted), then the only reasonable explanation this is that they were actually overqualified for the simple one, i.e. too smart to use it.
installing the DE now. Im gonna go with LXDE
>>53624720
This is the most retarded thing I have ever heard.
"I am too smart to use the knife, I would cut myself! Give me a chainsaw!"
Installing isn't the hard part. Maintaining that piece of shit is what is irritating and non-productive and why no one wants to use Arch for actual productivity. The only thing it is good for is wasting time ricing in a VM.
just did a reboot and its fucked.
i hate this os
>>53624919
of course.
>>53624919
Now just ssh into the kernel sub domain with visual basic and you're home free.
>>53624919
lmao
what else
>>53624919
You forgot to set root in syslinux its still on the default
>>53624997
>tfw this whole thing was just a ruse of OP to get /g/ to do tech support for him
OP I have an issue for 3 months now with alsa
i have sound but only one source/program can play at a time
i tried many things in my ~/.soundrc but either no sound at all or 1 at a time
hopefully you get to this
>>53625013
The error message is literally telling him whats wrong eitheer that or hes a crazy person the sets root as /dev/sda3
>>53625022
well... >>53624496
>>53625016
pulseaudio
>>53625037
So op is a crazy person
>>53625048
i did use it in the past but now i want an alsa only solution, i know it can use a mixer,not sure if it's hardware or software
>>53624441
>>53624411
why are you skipping steps OP? i just clicked "Boot Arch Linux" from first pic and this showed up, wtf m8?
>>53625082
OP is an attention whore, don't mind him
>>53625082
you run the script.
i set root to sda3, fixing it now
>>53625082
you literally have to:wget archfi.sourceforge.net/archfi
sh archfi
maybe you are illiterate
>>53625182
yeah just use a broken install script and end up with a broken install just like OP
>>53624411
Just install it with Arch Anywhere..
>>53625202
>>/g/
>unironically expecting any kind of usable result
just install it the normal way.
its so easy, those scripts never worked for me and i ended up most of the time with a laggy system
>>53625182
>running a script from the interboobs
there are less than 10 commands : create partition,format filesystem,install os , configure grub and reboot
lazy people should not use arch,
>Running a script
Guys, pacstrap was included with the disk. Everything else is crazy simple. Why bother?
>inb4 archbabby
I would prefer arch had an official installer, but seeing as it doesn't what's wrong with the official way?
so i was following OPs script, did automatic formatting and now i have to select directories, what do i do now?
>>53624411
>using install script
>>53625282
is Arch the only OS ?
select /dev/sda
>>53625309
ok, next are swap, root and home, how do even check partition sizes so i can give home the biggest?
>>53625323
have you formatted those partitons first?
you turn a partition into a swap with mkswap /dev/sd....
root and home must be ext 3 or 4
mkfs.ext4 /dev/sd...
there are many ways to check partiton sizes, for example "cfdisk"
>>53625352
seriously, fuck this shit, i give up, you arch users are fucking retards for using this shit
>>53625384
your reaction is expected. try again in 1 year hopefully it will be easier fo you
Arch is fucking stupid and non developer friendly. I have to install mlocate package, for instance, to get to use the locate command.
It doesn't have as many things as come with ubuntu, and I know it maybe because muh privacy and muh non bloated os arguments.
But it's seriously a pain in the ass for me when I have to deploy some testing server or some shit for some webapp which isn't integrated with our CI yet. It's a fucking piece of shit because of the countless hours I've wasted just because specific bugs from this distro.
My company keeps using instances of arch to deploy on and it's fucking annoying.
I'd be happy to know others' stories where Arch actually stood out for them for their development needs.
>>53625384
i have arch installed on a netbook because binary packages and minimal install on an underpowered throttled PoS makes sense. i tried my nigga slackware on a previous netbook and it took an entire day just to compile audacity.
now then how do i get my sound working? unmuting with alsa chanels didnt work
>>53624534
Oh yes, resizing is a pain.
Don't raise with parted unless you very well know what you're doing.
>>53624960
lol this
>>53625574
>single partition for your entire everything
ISHYGDDT
>>53625656
Eh.. you don't really NEED more than one partition, especially considering most people learning arch or using that image are likely to be swapping their OS anyway soon after anyway.
>>53625498
using pulseaudio usually works
>>53625574
>its easy to install arch, literally 5 commands
>its actually about 100 commands until you see desktop
>>53625679
all the more reason to keep a separate /home
idk, man. i never got on board the lvm mantrain. there is something kissy and kosher about having nice discrete independent partitions that persist OS changes and physical transplantation
>>53625703
pulseaudio uses alsa
alsa uses oss
>>53624585
This
cfdisk is the easiest shit to use; even back before I knew much about partitioning, I found cfdisk way easier to use than the GUI partition tools
>>53625711
dont use arch please i dont want you to use it.
>>53625679
if you keep a separate /media partition you don't need to format that if you want to change OS, you'll already have all your files from the start
>>53625728
what are you trying to say?
>>53625728
>alsa uses oss
What the fuck am I reading?
>>53625731
>>53624585
>cfdisk
fdisk too hard for you, faggots?
>>53625723
I agree with you, personally I've always got separate partitions, but they really aren't required.
why cant arch have sound like buntu has?
What's up with the spike in archmemeix popularity here lately?
>>53625758
Not too hard, I'm just commenting on how easy cfdisk is regardless of existing skill
Even a mentally handicapped person could use it
>>53625761
nothing is really required if you don't give a shit about having a well-organized system
>>53625766
arch is always popular here..
>>53625774
Noted, thanks for the lesson anon
>>53625741
dont worry, i will never touch it ever again ;^)
>>53625747
pulseaudio --> alsa --> oss --> hardware
>>53625798
Not really. Unless you're using some compatibility layer.
ahem
>>53625798
so if unmuting alsa doesn't work then pulseaudio also shouldn't work. What do i do then?
>>53625833
did you actually install pulseaudio?
check the arch wiki's alsa and pulseaudio pages, also if you have a laptop look it up in the laptop section
>>53625574
>need to reboot 3 times before making it usable
even windows dosnt this anymore kek
>>53625833
assuming you have and use pusleaudio, is it actually running ?
test sound withspeaker-test -c 2
initialize alsa withalsactl init
>>53625899
with or without pulseaudio i get unable to open up slave, no such file or directoy also if i type pulseaudio i get 3 no such file or directiry errors
>>53625963
as root ?
have you tried killing it and running again ?killall -9 pulseaudio ; pulseaudio
>>53626010
speaker tests arent working either. Sudo doesn't help.
>inb4 guys look how easy arch is!
>>53625898
Yes windows still does this you fucking retard
why do cucks think its hard to set up arch?
it takes literally 5 min
>>53624411
How easy is it to install and play The Division on Arch?
Oh and that goes without saying that WINE isn't allowed since why would you run Linux if you have to run Windows inside it?
>>53626058
Cuz it has been 3 days and I still can't get sound working
>>53626136
Wine isn't an emulator.
>>53626166
Did I ever call it that?
>>53626172
You said "Run Windows inside it" which is misleading, you're thinking of a virtual sandbox that literally runs Windows, WINE is not that.
>>53626202
Wine Virtualbox does one thing and it runs programs from other OS (example).
Why the retards don't simply call it an emulator is their problem.
I didn't call it an emulator since I know it makes butthurt people pissed up for no reason.
>>53626051
you need to reboot it only once
>>53626136
It doesn't run windows inside it... It translates Windows API calls into Linux system calls. It's a compatibility layer
>>53626280
>It's a compatibility layer
Wow, it's almost (exactly) like an emulator.
Anyway, how do you easily install The Division and run it on Arch without having to use Wine?
How do you run Photoshop?
>>53625723
I call bullshit. The home directory is not OS independent, especially .config uh combination with different package versions, it's a great way to end up in arbitrary config issues. You're better off having home on the same partition as the OS and only having a desperate data partition with the really big files like movies and music.
>>53624556
>first, ram is dead cheap nowdays.
>so there is no need for swap anyways since its a relict of older times where you had like 512mb.
>second, when you need swap, make a swap file.
I use swap because I hibernate my computer.
>>53626342
>How do I do X without using any of the tools developed specifically to do X?
>>53626387
You mean
>Why I run Y OS if all I ever do is run X programs
>>53626304
An emulator let's you run an OS, and then run programs designed for that OS with the OS itself in a closed environment. WINE lets you run Windows programs inside Linux (or Mac), there is no sandbox.
>>53626429
>closed environment
What?
I can emulate other Windows OS and have full read write between the emulated OS and the HDD on this OS.
>tfw want to install arch for some reason
>boot up ISO in VM
>try to read wiki
>going very slow
>still too fucking confusing
and that's why I use Windows
>>53626411
Because you don't like Y? I like Windows games but don't like Windows, if I can run them in a virtualbox with GPU passthough or WINE then great.
>>53626449
Just use Ubuntu or Mint then. I don't understand why you went straight from Windows to Arch, a distro noted for having a somewhat in depth installation process. Ubuntu and Mint typically work out of the box (unless you have an Nvidia card, then you may have to do some Googling)
>>53626453
>I hate X so I'll install this program so I can run X programs.
>>53626511
>X
>same as X's programs
>>53626511
Why is that bad? It's not like most Windows programs are developed for Windows because devs love Microsoft, it's just the most popular desktop OS. You're not hurting the dev's feelings by running their programs on another OS. I'm sure they'd rather people use it in a round-about way then not use it at all.
>>53626477
nah I've installed Ubuntu and had it for like a month. I just kept going back to my windows partition. I don't even play games that much (like once every other week for 30 minutes) and if I do, the games are already on Linux.
>>53626537
Wow, you sure showed me with that image.
>>53626552
I don't care about what the devs had in mind.
>>53626606
Then you don't really have an argument. You like X programs, but don't like X. You like Y, but miss X programs. Then you find a tool that lets you run X programs in Y. Great, problem solved. I don't see any problem, let's you have the best of both worlds.
>>53626638
So you use an EMULATOR
>>53626511
>I can run this program while using an operative system i actually like
>b-but that's cheating, t-that doesn't count
>>53626664
You seem to have some mental retardation that prevents you from typing correctly since stuttering is something people at worst do on a verbal level.
>>53626663
Do you have an actual argument? Every post you've made is nonsensical.
>>53626663
>So you use an EMULATOR
and why that's something bad if the program works correctly?
You're partially right except that in case of wine you're not emulating the full operative system, wine just provides a compatibility layer that translates calls specific to windows in to call to your operative system.
read: https://www.winehq.org/
>>53626672
nice try but that's how you actually sound
>>53626252
>install
>reboot
>new updates
>reboot
>newer updates on top of old updates
>reboot
>>53626698
>not emulating the full operative system
Again, I didn't say it emulated the whole OS
It emulates the program you're running.
Call it whatever you want, it's emulating libraries similar to a virtual box.
>>53626719
Link me the comment where I stutter in text form then.
>>53626729
>Link me the comment where I stutter in text form then.
are you pretending?
linux need reboots after updates too, i wasnt counting them, arch now have even more restarts, gg, dont reply
>>53625898
Actually you don't need to reboot
>>53626739
That concludes my diagnose on you.
You're retarded.
>>53624556
Wrong. You always want swap in case you run out of memory. If you don't have swap, the kernel will just start killing processes. You don't want this to happen.
Believe me, you may be working on something and open a program that has a memory leak. In my case, I work with very large images on my laptop with 12GB of RAM for research in parallel and cluster computing. There have been plenty of occasions where I've run out of memory and if I didn't have swap, my processes would have just been zapped.
>>53626584
If you don't play Windows games or use Adobe products you should just delete your Windows partition. Believe me as long as it's there you'll always boot back into it out of laziness.
>>53626763
Name calling aside you lose the original argument long ago and you're not trying anymore to explain what's the problem with wine. But i admit that pretending to have asperger syndrome was a good deflect tactic.
>>53625082
beginner's guide makes the install not that hard but also if you want something a bit more simple try out the Architect installer
http://sourceforge.net/projects/architect-linux/files/
>>53625202
plus ads, since the script is from sourceforge
Only weird bit of it is the partitioning tool used by default, and if anything that just teaches you to prepare your partitions beforehand like a smartiepants.
Literally everything else is just "can you read the instructions from archwiki"
>>53626729
>It emulates the program you're running.
It doesn't emulates the program, if any it emulates the environment around the specific program but it doesn't run a full copy of the environment, it translates the calls from one API to an API native to the system.
>it's emulating libraries similar to a virtual box.
virtualbox doesn't emulates an operative system but hardware and its firmware, the operative system it's not emulated.
I am going to install arch on an atom netbook. What DE would you recommend. Most of the time it will run cli and a webbrowseer.
>>53627192
i3wm, no DE
>>53624441
>text installer
>2016
no thanks lol
>>53627192
CDE
>>53626356
easier to manually delete the offending config/rcs than recreate all of your ricing. unless of course you just steal other people's anyway
>>53627192
dwm
>>53626811
but I like Windows. it's why I still use it. I don't use those things, I just like Windows.
>>53627192
dont do it, you will regret it
>>53627192
gentoo
>>53626784
swap can be made afterwards
a file with 512MB and setting the swappiness to 0 will prevent the OOM from killing everyone ,also with the benefit of not using the swap at all but only when out of memory.
if you have a process that you don't want to see slaughtered by that monster give it a low score
echo 'a_score_value' >/proc/$pid/oom_adj
>>53627477
Why
>OP makes thread "lets install arch! look how ez it is!"
>completely cocks it up and fails
im dying squirtle
>>53625384
Using scripts to install Arch is a bad idea. Scripts can break with time as - get this - systems can UPDATE, and things can BREAK. (Trying to put this into simple terms for you, bear with me)
Following a paged guide (such as the Gentoo guide for installation using livedisk or whatnot) for installing Arch is a much better idea than relying on a script to do the work for you. Plus, you may actually learn a thing or two about how to troubleshoot your system since you've input the steps yourself. Nothing is kept obscure, so you have direct recollection (if your memory serves true) to what may have gone wrong. And if you're capable of interpreting even the slightest bit of "computergraphically" (quotation marks for a reason) formatted text, you'd go to the exact directories or locations or FILES that the error message returns. Check a log file. Do ANYTHING other than call others idiots for not being on the same level of stupidity you are.
>inb4 lol get baited ;-D
I wrote this reply because I felt like it. Not because I felt the obligation to reply to you in order to help, but to benefit myself - I take enjoyment in writing posts, therefore I do it. If you think you've baited me, you can consider yourself counter-baited. :^)
>>53627694
this is next-level autism
>>53627773
Baited ;)
>>53627192
i3wm ofc
>>53624411
Look at architect linux. It's a cli installer for arch and is fantastic.
Do you say arch or arc?
>>53630704
arch
>>53624585
I've always used fdisk. No reason other than that's what I started with.
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>>53624411
>i am going to be using an install script.
idiot
>>53624919
You're retarded. Just follow the Beginner's Guide and not use some shitty scripts.
>>53625384
>I can't follow instructions
fucking retards
>>53626449
>can't read
you chose the correct OS lad
>>53625384
>letting X break
How retarded do you have to be to let X break?
>>53631035
you should know, im not the one using arch
>>53631048
I don't because it hasn't broken and I am not on Intel hardware which is bugging out in version 1.18.2 of xorg.
>>53626747
Only time I needed to reboot after an update was when the kernel itself was updated.
Everything else gets updated with no reboot.
>>53624441
You forgot chmod +x ./arcfi
>>53631201
same as windows, it requires restart only after updating kernel (desktop is part of it), thats, the only thing you can update via windows update, and thats all the hate comes from
Okay here we go, I will show you how easy it is to install ubuntu and not conveniently leaving out any steps.
Because I am tech literate I see timesinks coming that would cause me to lose my job spending all my time compiling the same shit over and over again.
Here we go!
>burn iso to flash drive and boot from it
>Follow 5 minutes of simple instructions
Now on Wednesday you can show up at your job with a working laptop and actually have confidence that it will remain stable for the tasks your job requires you to do. Being responsible with your time because it has value rocks, doesn't it?
>>53631285
how do i burn a flash drive?
>>53631337
I anticipated this psuedo-nitpick as OP counted the entire VM process as "boot up the media"! When you download ubuntu, it actually burns itself since it respects your time.
>>53624603
This if you dont intend on having anything important on your computer.
Realistically you want a data partition separate from root so if your giant data partition gets even slightly corrupted you can fix it w/o another computer.
>>53631380
>When you download ubuntu, it actually burns itself since it respects your time
>>53627223
More like
>Reading
>2016
No thanks lol cuz ima nigger
>>53631534
you are so educated i bet you read images from terminal, only niggers use image viewers
>>53631581
>i'm proud of being illiterate
>>53631751
i know you linux users are retarded, i even saw a guy who was editing images inside a terminal, good for you
No, I will show you how easy it is
>>53632496
>embedded file
fuk u m8
>>53632496
>>53632596
Ah fuck that, I can't keep going if 4chan thinks all my webms have embedded files
>>53632496
>>53632596
meanwhile in windows you can do this with two clicks
>>53633060
That's not fun
>>53633119
we all know what arch users consider fun >>53625384
>>53633173
I love memes too anon
>>53633197
your life is a meme
>>53627192
dwm
>>53624556
Yeah, and enjoy your shitty swap performance on Raid > 0
>>53625574
>zsh
found the hipster
>>53627192
xmonad with qutebrowser and st terminal riced to look quite nice
>>53624411
I'm installaling arch with architech linux and its pretty much easy
>>53624764
what if you want to install i3?
