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Why aren't you using OS X?
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>UNIX
>open-source kernel
>extremely stable
>very pretty and very functional
>touchpad gestures actually useful
>best virtual desktop implementation ever
>perfect display scaling
>lots of control over the system if you know what you're doing

Why aren't you using OS X?
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I'm straight.
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>>53533086
/thread
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But anon I do

>>53533086
You've got middleschool in the morning, go to bed
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>HFS+
>SIP
>Waking on AC despite disabling "wake on AC" is intended behaviour, as stated by apple
>the newest stable release is never, ever stable
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>>53533112
With that hardware you've either got an old Mac Pro or a Hackintosh. Curious as to which.
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>>53533075
>UNIX
No. BSD. Based off of OpenDarwin.

>open-source kernel
Not as of about 10.4/10.5.

>extremely stable
Sure, stable enough.

>very pretty and very functional
Pretty is subjective. But it's functional enough.

>touchpad gestures actually useful
Not Mac specific.

>best virtual desktop implementation ever
Subjective

>perfect display scaling
Subjective, based on what criteria?

>lots of control over the system if you know what you're doing
The same can be said for everything else.

> Why aren't you using OS X?
Because I don't own a Mac.

Actually, that's not entirely accurate. I have a trio of DL360 G6's running a modified version of VMWare ESXi that are running OSX clients for some automation and group policy testing.
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>>53533075
I don't watch scat porn
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Not compatible with my laptop. I'd like to use it instead of having a Linux distro as my go-to Unix
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>>53533134
Mac Pros have only had Xeons, it's an early 2008 iMac
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>>53533135
UNIX 03 certified is what I meant, but you are correct.
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>Mac is open source

holy shit when will this meme die
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Well I am using OSX on a ~100$ computer. It just werkz. I don't know why I spent 3 years of my life on GNU +Linux. Now life is good.
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>>53533153
Yeah, but the socket allows for Core cpus in those Macs.

I didn't know iMacs had dedicated graphics back then. Huh.
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>>53533135

BSD = Berkley Software Distribution = Unix.

you gotta be trolling with that shit.
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>>53533159
The OS itself isn't open source, just the kernel, which is the only part of an OS that absolutely must be open source in my opinion.
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http://researchcenter.paloaltonetworks.com/2016/03/new-os-x-ransomware-keranger-infected-transmission-bittorrent-client-installer/
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>Why aren't you using OS X?

Well, i would actually use one for ios development but i just got out of school and i have a lot of shit to pay (not a tuition, its free on my country), so i can't afford one.
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Used GNU/Linux from '94 until 2008 and switched to Mac. Like some aspects but hated others; switched back to Gentoo in 2014.
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OSX is more Unix than GNU Linux that's a fact. But should we even care?
It would be still better if it wasn't that Unix.
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>>53533171
One of these days I'm going to pop in a Core2 Quad and 8800GS, probably going to hold off till I switch desktops in case I fuck up, MXM GPUs aren't the easiest to upgrade.

>>53533183
The OS (Darwin) is open source, the parts that make it OS X are not.
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>>53533163
OS X is like a Linux distribution, except good.

Linux kernel is really nice though, I just wish all of the distros weren't random software packages glued together by a first grade retard.
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>>53533183
I'll open your kernel
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>>53533208
MXM is the absolute worst and needs to die in a fire.
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>>53533212
Yeah, I've had that feeling too. Some distribution are really good though. But they all lack constancy. Which OSX doesn't.
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>>53533180
BSD is NOT Unix.

Mostly, I seem to recall that it's not SUS compliant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution
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>>53533243

Not only are things inconsistent between different distros, they are inconsistent between releases of the same distro. It's absolute madness.
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>>53533075
>Why aren't you using OS X?
But I am anon!
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>>53533304
Good on you, anon!
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>Why am I not using OS X?

I have no extra cash to pay for a mac. The unix kernal both delights me bit also pisses me the fuck off sometimes. I have no need for lightning or FireWire (is that still a thing), regular consumer macs become obsolete rapidly, the shell looks pretty but can suck my average cock in terms of navigation, and all the monitors for macs have glass on them with not anti glare film.
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>>53533228
Hey I'm just happy the GPU's sitting in a socket
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>>53533304
>>53533311
>>53533314
>Why?
I can't install on my i7, GTX760, 6 GB RAM mini pc build anon-kun!
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>>53533075
Because it's the worst sides of Linux and Windows combined

Because I can't replace the dock with a task bar
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>>53533314

Buying Mac hardware is definitely the best option if you plan on running OS X, but certainly isn't the only option.

Unless you are using your machine for your livelihood (graphic design, programming, etc) you can just build and run a Hackintosh.

>>53533315

There's always that. But external GPUs are the way of the future.
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>>53533314
FireWired has been replaced by ThunderBolt.
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>>53533333

The only problem I can see there might be whatever motherboard you have. any Intel x86 CPU should be fine and I believe Nvidia provide Mac drivers if you dig around enough.
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>>53533341
I've been thinking about swapping the Wi-Fi card for an mPCIe to PCIe adapter, I'm sure the latency will be shit and it'll only be PCIe x1, but I love the fact that it can be done

>>53533314
Once you've got multiple Macs it's unbelievable how awesome FireWire and Thunderbolt are
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>>53533333
Quints telling the turth
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>>53533333
Nice 5x5 bubs!

>Implying I can build a Hackintosh

You need to have a device running osx to even get the os, and I'd probably fuck something up along the way if I tried. Maybe if I have a friend with a macbook and 48 hours free.

>Maybe if I have a friend
Who am I kidding, I'm on /g/ for christ sake XD
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Linux with shitty bloatware, a shiny sticker, and giant price tag? Totally, I'll take 20.
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>>53533376

x1 should be fine if you aren't going to draw to the screen much with it (ex. rendering or compute) but for gaming or video editing it may pose a problem.
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>>53533400
>OS X is Linux
Troll detected
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>>53533388
>XD
Are you on meds? Because your post sound like you forgot some daily pills to calm your asperger
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>>53533153
How do you have a beta release of OS X?
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>>53533400
>bloatware
wut

>shiny sticker
shiny things are nice

>giant price tag
The OS is literally free.

>>53533388

I can get you the OS X system image.
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>>53533433
>The OS is literally free.
2000 USD+
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>>53533438

You don't need to own a Mac to use OS X you dip.
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>>53533428
There's a public beta and a developer preview, I was too lazy to get the developer preview when I upgraded to an SSD so I just installed the public beta
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>>53533445
1800 USD
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More locked down than linux
Less software than windows
Worse UI than both combined

I can't really think of many things it does better than linux or windows+cygwin
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>>53533208
the only closed parts are basically just the gui & included libraries, the apps, and a few of the system utilities
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>>53533487
>Worse UI than both combined
Yeah sure bud
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OS 11 when?
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>>53533086
/thread
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>>53533487
>Worse UI than Linux
I supposed you've never used a Linux distro then. Even diehard Linux fans can acknowledge that the UI is shit. That's why everyone uses terminal for everything.
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>>53533497
Yes, the parts that separate Darwin from OS X.
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>>53533499
>dock
>all windows of a program are linked
>clicking in app expose does nothing if you don't move your mouse first
>finder is a joke
Yes it is.
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>>53533518
yeah. i was specifying what those parts were for others who may not know
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Os x is not Linux.

Os x is modified Unix with BSD tools.

While Linux is just a clone of UNIX - created from 0 by Linus Torvalds to be like it.
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>>53533517
So is osx ui, see >>53533530 just off the top of my head

Linux at least has choice, osx doesn't. I can make linux GUI behave how I want it. If you think that's shit, you're shit
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>>53533539
I certainly hope that people here know that OS X isn't Linux. Even the kernel structure is very different, with Linux being monolithic and OS X kernel being some weird hybrid structure.
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Because VR wont work on it.
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>>53533075

I was virgin for 38 years with Mac OS as my primary system I used to code in HTML to make websites, when I switched to Windows I have now wife and 4 healthy sons, I will never let my sons dio the same mistake, and give them copy of Windows 11 when they are born

Linux wise, I got awful acne when I have tried to install on my wd passport 2 TB portable ssd
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>>53533530
>dock
Just don't use it. I threw it on my secondary monitor, deleted all the shortcuts, and set it to autohide, the smallest it can be, no magnification.
>all windows of a program are linked
The global menu bar? It's one of the reasons I find leaving OS X difficult.
>clicking in app expose does nothing if you don't move your mouse first
What? I've never had this issue
>finder is a joke
I agree, but it has gotten better and you don't need to use it.
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>>53533530
>dock
Nobody uses the dock, and Ubuntu uses a fucking sidebar.

>all windows of a program are linked
wut

>clicking in app expose does nothing if you don't move your mouse first
another wut

>finder is a joke
Finder is virtually identical than any Linux filesystem viewer, but with far more organization and display options.
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>>53533571
>The global menu bar? It's one of the reasons I find leaving OS X difficult
Amen to that. I wish windows had that.
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>>53533603
Especially since OS X merges the bar with time display and other system status stuff. Saves a lot of space on screen.
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It's insecure as fuark.
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>>53533620
>Especially since OS X merges the bar with time display and other system status stuff. Saves a lot of space on screen.
I wonder if there's a program for windows that emulates that interface. I need a PC one day, and I'd hate to deal with the PC interface again.
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>>53533075
>macshit
>unix

Pick one.
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>>53533766
http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/
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>>53533794
>contains zero lines of unix code
>thinks some shitty cert bought with jewgolds means anything

Try again mactoddler.
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>>53533640
it's no less secure than windows. actually it's more secure than windows. it's also more secure than many linux distributions.
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apple is a botnet, not a os developer. they quit that gig a long time ago. linux is so much more advanced. as they grow, the botnet grows, not the os, more propreitary shit.
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>>53533811
>osx
>secure

OSX is fucking joke, just like its developer.
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>>53533809
You're thinking of a different UNIX. The certification and the source code are two separate things. You don't just throw money at them and get the certification, the OS has to pass rigorous testing.
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>>53533839
>the OS has to pass rigorous testing.

Good joke.
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>>53533274
then you should install gentoo
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>>53533839
>just throw money at them and get the certification
macfag deteteced
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>>53533517
>UI is shit
GNOME runs QHD touch just fine.
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>>53533869
Why are you denying the obvious? Even Freebsd devs use OSX
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>>53533857
>>53533869
>SUSv3 is 3700 pages
>the OS needs to comply with all of it
>not rigorous testing
Sure buds
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>>53533314
>kernal
indian detected
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>>53533839
>b-b-but who cares if it's just a unix-like frankenBSD with an abomination of a filesystem, it has a CERTIFICATION
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>>53533857
>its the memester that repeats the same old irrelevant shit.
Linus Torvalds is salty that Linux isnt the preferred desktop unix among professionals.
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>>53533314
you don't know shit about the unix "kernal", pencil dick. fuck outta here
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>>53533893
The preferred desktop unix among professionals is HP-UX, AIX, etc., not your toddler OS for running on starbucks facebook machines.
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>>53533908
Posted from my Windowsâ„¢ 10 Toshiba crapbook :^).
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>>53533183
>in my opinion
tanenbaum folks
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>>53533892
>thinks UNIX 03 is worthless
>meanwhile each of the listed operating systems costs $15k for certification and all of these companies have paid it
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>>53533135
>Because I don't own a Mac.
and?
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>>53533908
Real OS X users don't use the dock
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>>53533885
>Freebsd devs use OSX
good for them
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>>53533956
>Real OS X users
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>>53533970
You can stop spouting your shitty memes at any time
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>>53533970
uncalled for anon
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>>53533388
sweet digits my dude
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>>53533984
You can stop shilling your shitty memeOS at any time
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>>53533571
you could just kill the dock
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>>53534037
>Safari
It's your own fault if you use it.
I fail to see the issue though, you posted a webm of Safari functioning as intended

>>53534044
Except that cripples the OS
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>>53534037
>actually using Safari
Prime example of "doing it wrong"
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>>53534069
Safari is good, what's your problem?
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>>53533388
Yosemite Zone, it's a distribution of Mac OS for creating a Hackintosh. Works the same as Unibeast. I made one, real ez.
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>>53534059
>>53534069
Wew lads what's the problem? I actually really like Safari.
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>>53533112
I dont do school or sleep
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>>53534078
>>53534087
>no side tabs
>looks like ass
>WebKit
The only thing it's good for is if you're using a laptop and trying to get better battery life
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>>53533517
Is this bait?

Linux ricing results in the best looking GUIs out there. I'd rather have my tweaked MATE and Gnome than Windows or Mac GUI any day.
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>>53534097
I'm not sure if you're in the US or not, but here you need to be 18 to drop out and regardless you need to be 18 to post on this site.
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>>53534098
>no side tabs
Who really use this shit?!
>looks like ass
Subjective
>WebKit
What's wrong?
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>>53534087
Newer builds of Safari are a bit better (they don't do what cuckboy's webm shows) but it is still too simplified for my tastes and wastes a bit more screen space than Chrome or Firefox.
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>>53534110
Nah, I know guys who dropped out at 16.
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>>53534113
>Who really use this shit?!
People who do more than have Facebook in one tab and Twitter in another.
>What's wrong?
The web is starting to conform to WebKit instead of conforming to standards and I disagree. I refuse to use a WebKit browser and besides, Presto is better anyway.
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>>53533245
BSD is unix, it cannot use the UNIX trademark which requires a formal compliance to SUS and very few non commercial oses care to apply for that (osx did, and is officially UNIX 03 certified)

Also, the very page you linked states how BSD is an Unix operating system
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>>53534133
Maybe it's a state to state thing, my friend dropped out at 17 and ended up with a bunch of truancy charges. iirc you need to finish the either semester or quarter in which you turn 18 before you can actually drop out
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>>53534135
>People who do more than have Facebook in one tab and Twitter in another.
Yeah, cool story, only you know how must be the best another is faggot
>The web is starting to conform to WebKit instead of conforming to standards and I disagree. I refuse to use a WebKit browser and besides, Presto is better anyway.
Why not EdgeHTML?
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>>53534135
I refuse to add alternate CSS to my webpages for webkit support.
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OP here, going to bread. This thread turned out far better than expected.

Good night sweet anons.
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>>53534157
>EdgeHTML
Well that would require both an operating system downgrade and a browser downgrade, no than you.
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>>53534098
>The only thing it's good for is if you're using a laptop and trying to get better battery life

Yeah and?
I get substantially better battery life, it's like its not even there when I'm running it. Firefox drains the battery 4 times as fast
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>>53534206
And I'm not using a laptop. Even if I was, I still don't find it worth it. I'll take a better browser over a browser that's only pro is battery life, especially while I'm using a fucking desktop.
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>>53534098
>looks like ass
arguably the best looking and least intrusive browser
/g/ would be all over it if it wasn't made by apple
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>>53533207
UNIX has only ever made things worse
UNIX is a fucking dinosaur
UNIX is fucking awful
UNIX was disowned by the exact people who made it
None of them even use UNIX

>>53533314
Macfags say: Macs actually have less glare, as in, they reflect less light than normal glass. The colors pop in the mac store, and that's all that matters. "Anti glare" matte screens that just diffuse light ruin the pretty by technically having more glare! If you want to use your computer anywhere but a dimly lit starbucks, don't buy a mac.
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>>53534230
The only time I've ever gone for a matte display is a touchscreen laptop. It's the only time I ever will.
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>>53533086
dude homOSeX lmao
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>Install 20 different linux distros to get away from Windows (not because of botnet mind you)
>Love a lot of things about them, except performance and having to go through hoops to make software like Illustrator work just ok
>After too much time spent trying to get that one thing to work decide that maybe it wasn't for me, go back to windows

>Still feeling like shit
>"Hey anon do you know your current hardware supports hackintosh?"
>After having some painful experience with a virtual machine, installed it
>Fucking mouse acceleration I can't--
>Download smoothmouse
>Fucking NTFS I can't write--
>Grab Tuxera and find out I can just torrent shit
>Fucking smooth scrolling is shitty, I---
>Grab smoothscroll, shit works not just on my browser but everywhere
>Fucking itunes doesn't have a folder library vie--
>Grab Cog
>F-- fucking jack retasking--
>Edit a plist file and it's fixed

I'm looking for things to complain about, but somehow there's -always- a direct solution and I find it quick enough. Sure it's quite a bit of "fixing" as opposed to Ubuntu in regards to hardware but I didn't spend a whole day on everything. As for the rest of the system, later I tried Ubuntu Gnome and Unity, those two motherfuckers that look alike, and they felt really fucking clunky in comparison.

It made me even switch from Chrome for years to Safari because:

1. I don't give two shits about webms personally
2. With the smoothscroll application that I mentioned, Chrome kinda trips like a motherfucker, Safari is smooth as hell
3. Can still watch some shit on youtube, maybe not 4k 60fps but I wonder why I would watch that on a 2560x1080p monitor
4. Can still use some scripts
3. Can actually customize it more than Chrome, put a feed bar in there with tweets and since it's the thing that comes with the system, it looks consistent enough

Really it's just that webm thing that sucks about this browser, otherwise I can't think of one issue. Overall I'm pretty fucking happy.
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Apple is for gays and ladies.
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>>53534222
Indeed.

They can do more with it, like remove all the toolbar elements they want, put them where they fucking want as well.
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Man, mission control is on some shit. I know other operating systems have something like this that I can probably also bind to my mouse DPI switch but this shit is beautiful
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>Why aren't you using OS X?
I am. El Crapitan pisses me off though, why do fonts look so blurry on external monitor? Wasn't a problem with Mavericks.
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>>53534321
fuck off retard
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>>53534576
It depends. Are you using a non-hDPI, non-native resolution?

Otherwise it might be font smoothing, try between them 4 different settings
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>>53533086
/thread
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>>53534621
>It depends. Are you using a non-hDPI, non-native resolution?
Yeah, it's a shitty 24" 1080p Samsung screen. Ubongo looks fine on it though.

>Otherwise it might be font smoothing, try between them 4 different settings
Already tried it, doesn't help.
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>>53533075
but I am obviously
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>>53533086
/thread
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I'm using it, but there are plenty of reasons why I shouldn't be.
Utterly fucky SSHFS is what's giving me nightmares today.
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>>53534690
Other than adding scaled resolutions with SwitchResX, I wouldn't know what to tell you. There was an attempt to bring Mavericks fonts back to El Capitan but it's buggy and shows artifacts.
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>>53534710
I mainly use AFP but have never had any issues with SSHFS
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>>53534739
You on 10.10+?
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>>53534748
Yeah I'm running 10.11
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Because incompatibility and dont want to flash my bios.
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>>53533075
>very pretty and very functional
All that matters is efficiency, not looks.
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>>53533517
>Even diehard Linux fans can acknowledge that the UI is shit.
lol

linux looks however you want it, including exactly the same as windows or OSX, therefor better than any of the two
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>tfw you'll never create your own unix or bsd inspired/influenced os and have it take off and be used by various professionals and niche users and not be a shitty company like apple
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>>53534037
hey look thats my webm
glad someone else is shitposting for me
>>53534059
>>53534069
I don't actually use safari, it's just a prime example of how "maximizing' in mac os is terrible.
Firefox seems to be the only application that actually maximizes and de maximizes when you tell it to
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>>53533086

Are we still recycling memes from 2009? Wew lad, might want to go outside and interact with different people. Homosexuals have no greater chance of using a specific OS, they're mostly on windows shittops just like every other normie.
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>>53533075
Any torrents of the said OSX?
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>>53533075
>OS X

apple, google, facebook, same ToS, no privacy they have have to all data you use by their service and have the right to use it or delete it because you clicked and accepted ToS
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>>53534900

One of those 3 doesn't have a business model around selling your information, can you guess which one it is?!
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>>53534794
Pffft.

Yeah, kinda like a chinkophone. Look at it, it's the same thing as the iPhone 6.

I'll switch to linux when you can put expose and mission control on it, something like spotlight, decent animations that don't rely on some external shitty tool like compiz and an actual notification center

Even the global menu is a feature missing in most DEs, like Gnome (which last time I checked doesn't have a plugin for that by the way).
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>>53534884
It's a free OS, as in beer.

You'll have to torrent the el capitan VM, run it through that, create an account on the app store and use that to download the legit thing. Then use unibeast.
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>>53534910
One of those three doesn't deal with NSA, can you guess which one it is ?!
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>>53533086
ebin :DD
this is going on r/4chan
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>>53535067
TIL you can get laughs on 4chan really easily
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>>53534988

They all do to some capacity, you retard.
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>>53534757
Shit, wonder if that makes it better...
Did you have to disable kernel module signing?
I dunno what's up with mine, just a shitload of permission issues and errors thrown to the terminal constantly.
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>>53535197
Yeah I disabled it a while ago because I was running into some conflicts and never bothered turning it back on, I'm almost positive that that's your issue.
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>>53533075
>very pretty
>doesn't use GTK+
>can't just install different DE/WM

>anything from Apple at all
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>>53533075
Deprecated system with no future.
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>>53535389
That's Linux.
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>>53535497
That's neither
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>>53535497
#rekt
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>>53535497
>90% of server market
>1% of desktop market
>90% of mobile market
>no future

vs

>0% of server market
>3% of desktop market
>10% of mobile market and shrinking by the minute
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>>53535232
IT KEEPS REENABLING
Fuck it, I'll make a system image then upgrade to 10.11, if it's too much worse then I'll just revert.
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>>53535497

what do you think all your social bullshit runs on? google, amazon, facebook... shit ain't running on a million mac pro's faggot, nor do they put up with licensing windows on their farms. idiot. linux does it all, server, desktop, phone, embedded. wah! gpl won eat shit
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>>53535674
>using server OS on desktop
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>>53535661
Why am I qouted? >>53533112
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>>53535684
>buying into Microsoft's "server" version marketing
>windows versions are 2 registry edits different
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i have an old MacBook pro and I'm trying to escape osx. it's just not thin enough to be smooth on 8+ year old hardware.

still working on it though 'cause my superdrive is broken and booting anything but osx from usb on a mac built with a superdrive is next to impossible.
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>>53535777
Have a FireWire HDD or possibly another Mac?
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>>53535777
Just sell it to some retard and get a different laptop. Mactards will literally pay 10X what the hardware is worth.
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>>53535820
That ancient Macbook probably still runs like it's new, while the Dell will shit itself in few months if you're using Windows.

Besides, having a usable trackpad on a laptop is damn nice.
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>>53535800
if i was shelling out for a firewire hdd i might as well just get a new superdrive.

how would another mac help?

right now i can find two real options, either give raw partition access to a vm which i use to install in that partition, which is a lot of work and i haven't gotten working yet, or i've heard a program called winclone which can create a bootable windows install in osx from an image. i don't use it since it's payware and i dint want windows anyway but it gave me the idea to try to fool software for creating bootable usb stucks into installing on a local partition, which is then use to create a regular install.

>>53535820
it's from 2007, I'd get chromebook level money from it, plus exactly what >>53535862 said.
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>>53535898
>how would another Mac help
I can't tell you how many times I've used a Mac as the boot drive for another Mac, Target Disk Mode is awesome
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>>53534037
Window animations like that on Linux?
Been using Gnome, but the lack of window eye-candy really bugs me.
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>>53535928
yeah but can i use target disk mode to a partition without osx installed? as far as i remember it won't work. also, if have to have a Linux partition on that other machine, which granted isn't too much work but still.
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>>53535862
>ancient macshit

Literally a water boiler that throttles to 5mhz in 2 seconds and ramps up like a jet engine. A chromebook would work better than that pile of shit.
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>>53535975
Burn an installer CD and pop it in your other Mac, boot it to Target Disk Mode, then you can boot from that Mac's disc drive with your MacBook

>>53535993
I'd take a PowerBook G4 over a Chromebook
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>>53535960
Same here. Animations in OSX are exactly right. Tried Gnome/Unity/KDE and they honestly could be better with that. KDE is slow as molasses, Gnome stutters like it's loading the applications menu from a CD and Unity reeks of shitty animations produced by Compiz.

That's the issue with most big DEs really. They look like they're badly put together by different people here and there. The most consistent ones are usually so basic it hurts.
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>>53533517
Linux help forums or how-tos give cli solutions to problems because it's easier than describing click by click instructions for each of the 9000 de/wm options available.
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>>53536059
>i'd take a dick in my anus over not taking a dick in my anus
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As someone who has been using OS X for several years on hackintoshes, trying to switch to Linux was a pain in the ass. Mostly due to these issues:

>Triple monitor setup (two monitors, one TV) and screen tearing is ridiculous.
Required extensive fucking around with settings to get this working. I'm blaming X11 for being fucking shit instead of nVidia's drivers.
>Nothing was plug and play. Not even the browser.
Even needed to fuck with the chromium flags to get it to not screen tear due to it having some shitty rendering engine
>Needed to install 3rd party extensions for auto-scrolling by middle clicking.
Speaks for itself. I mean god damn what the fuck is that?
>Nautilus is worse than fucking Finder, and that's saying something.
Tried to upload pictures, good fucking luck finding it. It's either fuckhuge preview pictures, or no preview pictures at all. It has it's own "Other Devices" bullshit instead of easily mounting other drives from the sidebar.
>Virtual machine performance and features are fucking crap
I need a virtual machine for VS2015 since I need it for my fucking job. Unfortunately, both VMWare Workstation, VirtualBox, QEmu and KVM sucks dicks and has horrendous I/O performance even with it's own god damn disk. Works perfectly on Parallels Desktop with the exact same disk. This meant even more tedious configuring
>Font rendering was C-R-A-P.
Holy mother of fuck it was bad. Infinality "fixed" it, but why the fuck that isn't default on all distros is ridiculous.
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>>53536066
>Animations in OSX are exactly right
Kill yourself.
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>>53533075
Because I don't own (and I am not interested) in dildos or Apple hardware
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>>53536083
>le Apple is gay maymay
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>>53536086
Loonix (or at least Ubuntu) Font rendering is pretty nice and maybe I did something wrong but Infinality looked actually worse for me.
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>>53536093
Did I trigger you that hard? Do you need some therapy my man?
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But I do
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>>53534222
I'd actually use it if it could read fucking webms.
That's literally the only thing keeping me from ditching Chrome.
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>>53536110
>le Apple maymay
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>>53536059
I'll try that. hope it works. thanks.
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>>53536156
The fuck do you have in RAM?
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Why are mactards universally computer illiterate retards?
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>>53536211
Mostly Chrome lmao
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>>53536202
It should, I just did it a few days ago to install NetBSD

>>53536213
Because you believe in shitty Internet memes
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>>53533075
>>UNIX
certified unix, maybe. but doesn't act like a one.
>>open-source kernel
which isn't interchangeable so the fuck do I care? it's like saying some restaurant is good because it has food display, food that you can't actually eat
>>extremely stable
My mbp crashes a lot
>>very pretty and very functional
Arguable
>>touchpad gestures actually useful
This one I agree with
>>best virtual desktop implementation ever
This one I disagree with
>>perfect display scaling
Don't know, don't own a retina meme, I write code, not masturbate to pixels
>>lots of control over the system if you know what you're doing
Incorrect

>Why aren't you using OS X?
I am, sadly.
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>>53536213
It's easy to use, look good, and isn't your mainstream 93% of the market Windows system.

Even though it's popular with the illiterate crowd, the system itself is surprisingly powerful. Most *NIX commands are available in the terminal, you have a powerful package manager, proprietary software compatibility, not to mention stability. As a software developer it's a breeze to use and far more productive than what I've been used to with both GNU/Linux and Windows.
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>>53536247
>Incorrect
Incorrect
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>>53536211
I can tell you that Safari with multiple tabs will eat your RAM like a devil
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>>53536183
The only proper workaround for that is the VLC web plugin which is still watching them in another tab. Just middle click them webm links.

I actually switched to it because it is genuinely faster. It doesn't choke scrolling on websites with more than a few tiny pictures.
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>>53536237
So when do I get my Apple moneys? I am fine with hardware too, please send me a 64GB iPhone 5s, based Apple overlords.

>My mbp crashes a lot
Still on Yosemite? Maybe your hardware or the software you're using is fucked?
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Because.
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>>53536328
If I was told I'd get a good rMBP for telling these niggas how good shit was, hell yeah I would do this too.
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>>53536345
Some of his points make sense, others read like pure autism.
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>>53536156
that background is pretty cool. Needs a little more saturation though.
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>>53533075
I am using it
everyone who denies osx without any further argumentation is identified as poorfag
> stay mad
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>>53533075
It's not intuitive. I gave it a fair chance and used it for a month exclusively. I hated every minute and won't use it again. I felt the same way about the iphone I had for work for a while. Nothing made me happier than turning it back in.

Appleshit just isn't for me.

>inb4 grandpa who doesn't like change
nope
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>>53536345
At least he acknowledges that Linux has little usability and is a pain in the ass with all the configuring and workarounds to get shit actually working, while at the same time being very customizable.
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>>53534879
You can't hide your lust for dick, m8!
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>people on /g/ were telling me osx is crap
>switched to osx after years of using windows
>mfw everything is ok, extremely comfortable to use, zero problems
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>>53534879

macfag detected
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>>53536566
>install opensuse leap with KDE
Just werks
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>>53536086
okay when you say linux youre just speaking about the kernel.
specifically what distro were you trying to run?
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>>53533908
None of those companies has made a desktop unix workstation in almost 10 years.
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>>53533075
>UNIX
yeah, so? wanna fight about it?
>open-source kernel
and this affects usage how?
>extremely stable
define stability, because underusing system resources that are already shit for the price you paid seems a bit much to sacrifice for the ocasional monthly reboot that pcs need
also, all those "how to ctrl-alt-del on a mac" google results are fake, i mean, why would they be real if it's so fucking stable, right?
>very pretty and very functional
beauty is in the eye of the beholder macfag but hey, if you like fishe price icons jumping up and down every time you open your shit (and it usually takes a long time to open it on a mac) then by all means, consider it beautifull

but, for the sake of the argument, let's discuss what is wrong with it

>shitty UAC
i know it's unix and shit and its secure but holy fuck do some software manufacturers have trouble getting their shit to work with it and if i can't use certain third party software it's a dealbreaker
>not intuitive
"oh guise mac is most easy to use ever"
no you dumb fucks, no it's not
it's easy to connect to a network, open a browser and go on failbook but when it comes to actual usage such as defining environment variables, for example, then you better get your text editor boy. which brings me to your last point of "knowing what you're doing". Well, if you know what you're doing, then why the fuck would you use OSX instead of "insert linux distro"?
>touchpad gestures actually usefull?
well yeah, because concepts like right-click are too damn complicated for a mac user but swiping with a specific number of fingers from one specific direction is somehow simpler
>directory structure
maybe windows spoiled me since childhood but how the fuck do you live with that shit?
>no UI to close "apps"
no fucking close button for your fucking software. and you'll say "but anon, that red x closes my apps". NO it fucking does not, you have to command+q to quit something... but hey, you can allways get more ram right?
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>>53533140
oh man this is 2 funny xDDDD
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>>53536281
>autits
autist
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>open-source kernel
true

>extremely stable
partly true

>very pretty and very functional
depends on what you want to use

>touchpad gestures actually useful
irrelevant

>best virtual desktop implementation ever
yes, i like it

>perfect display scaling
same as other major OSes

>lots of control over the system if you know what you're doing

"if you know what you're doing" - magic key words
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Don't like the filesystem, quartz, no good package manager, the way xcode fucks with your libs is terrible, I'd rather not have everything break after system updates.

Just use a BSD
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>>53533075
because Chrome OS is better
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I would if my 380 was compatible.
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>>53536327
Yeah I know Safari has infinitely better performance than Chrome.
That webm issue still bothers me too much to switch.
I'll try the VLC plugin, see if it's convenient enough or not.
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I'm too lazy to bother with hackintosh and mac is too expensive also I enjoy muh freedum on Linux
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BOTNET BOTNET BOTNET
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>UNIX
There are other UNIX OSs
>open-source kernel
There are other open-source UNIX OSs, that don't require a licensing fee, and are stable with any hardware.
>extremely stable
Only if you have the correct CPU/MOBO combo.
>very pretty and very functional
Subjective banter. I personally find bright white color schemes tiring to my eyes and don't like them.
I can customize any other OS to look the best to myself, rather than "pretty" according to some irrelevant faggots rule-book which doesn't cover my own opinions.
>touchpad gestures actually useful
I don't have a use for laptops, so i don't give a fuck.
>best virtual desktop implementation ever
I have no use for this shit.
>perfect display scaling
You said perfect, but didn't say the best. Funny implications behind this.
>lots of control over the system if you know what you're doing
I see buzzwords have evolved into buzzsentences these days.
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>>53538677
>right clicking on osx xD lololol
when will this meme end?
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>>53535067
fuck off newfag
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>>53533086
/thread
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My only complaint with OS X is the lack of visual customization. Otherwise, I love it.
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>>53533086
Best answer
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>>53533896
>>53533889
>they don't know commodore called it the kernal in all of their documentation
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>>53534879
The canon Apple logo is the color of the LGBT flag,
and the bitten apple is the symbol of the poisoned apple which that gay mathematician took to kill himself because of his sexuality,
you dumb fuck. Apple is gay by definition.
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>>53538677
>well yeah, because concepts like right-click are too damn complicated for a mac user but swiping with a specific number of fingers from one specific direction is somehow simpler
I've been right clicking in OS X since the PowerPC days, quit being retarded
>maybe windows spoiled me since childhood but how the fuck do you live with that shit?
Don't even fucking bring Windows into this anon, you're just proving your retardation.
>no fucking close button for your fucking software. and you'll say "but anon, that red x closes my apps". NO it fucking does not, you have to command+q to quit something... but hey, you can always get more ram right?
Pic related. You can also do this from the dock, or just use Cmd+Q because you're hopefully not retarded
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>>53542334
>The canon Apple logo is the color of the LGBT flag
Coincidental.
>and the bitten apple is the symbol of the poisoned apple which that gay mathematician took to kill himself because of his sexuality
Actually the bite is there so you can tell it's not a cherry, you dumb fuck.
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>>53542978
A quick google search proves the origins behind it, with official Apple commentary and interview,
you dumb faggotbrain.
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>>53543213
Nah
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>>53533075

But I am, op.
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>>53543258
Yah you illiterate uneducated homo.
Also cherries don't have a leaf sticking from the lower part of the stalk like the Apple does,
their leaf is on top of a long stalk that is always the same size of the cherry in proportion, or about 30% longer,
you uneducated dumbfuck. So your reply didn't even make biological sense. Not that a cave dweller homo would know.
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>>53543313
http://creativebits.org/interview/interview_rob_janoff_designer_apple_logo
>CB: Is it possible you were influenced subconsciously by these stories?
>RJ: Well, I'm probably the least religious person, so Adam and Eve didn't have anything to do with it. The bite of knowledge sounds fabulous, but that's not it. And there is a whole lot of other lore about it. Turing the famous supposed father of computer science who committed suicide in the early 50's was british and was accused of being homosexual, which he was. He was facing a jail sentence so he committed suicide to avoid all that. So, I heard one of the legends being that the colored logo was an homage to him. People think I did the colored stripes because of the gay flag. And, that was something really thought for a long time. The other really cool part was that apparently he killed himself with a cyanide laced apple. And, then I found out Alan Turing's favorite childhood story was Snow White where she falls asleep forever afrer eating a poisoned apple to be woken up by the handsome prince. Anyway, when I explain the real reason why I did the bite it's kind of a let down. But I'll tell you. I designed it with a bite for scale, so people get that it was an apple not a cherry. Also it was kind of iconic about taking a bite out of an apple. Something that everyone can experience. It goes across cultures. If anybody ever had an apple he has probably bitten into it and that's what you get. It was after I designed it that my creative director told me: "Well you know, there is a computer term called byte". And I was like: "You're kidding!" So, it was like perfect, but it was coincidental that it was also a computer term. At the time I had to be told everything about basic computer terms.

Now quit with the shitty Reddit tier memes.
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>>53533075
GNU/Linux
>UNIX
>open-source kernel and userspace
>extremely stable (see: servers)
>very pretty (see: gnome shell) and very functional
>touchpad gestures kek
>first and best virtual desktop implementation
>perfect display scaling (at least with GTK)
>complete control over the system if you know what you're doing
Why aren't you using GNU/Linux?
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Because there is pretty much no support for it on Steam.
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>>53543574
>UNIX
You'd be facing a lawsuit if you made this claim on a distro's website.
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>>53534222
Firefox with the GTK arc theme looks better.
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>>53538677

the level of retardation in this post, jesus christ.

yes you can have granular control of terminal-type stuff like on linux, but the difference is that actual commercial software exists for os x when it doesn't for linux. it's literally the best of both worlds, both the development tools via a unix/bsd base, plus actual commercial software non-neets use.
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>>53534158
implying somebody even visit your shit pages
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>>53543574

no commercial software support. os x is all that you mentioned + this. ergo, no reason not to use os x
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>>53543606
well you're facing my dick
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>>53533333
>touchpad gestures actually useful
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>>53533433
>The OS is literally free.
It starts at 899$
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>>53534250
You have to be at least 18 to post here.
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>>53544285
>he doesn't get what he actually meant
You have to be at least 18 to post here.
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Because windows is the best
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>>53544285
He's making fun of a 12 year old, not being one.
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>>53536059
>I'd take a PowerBook G4
mein comrade
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>>53535684
every install I do starts out with a minimal install. There are no server or desktop features. I add that on top.
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