>"Install Gentoo"
>Partition the disks
>Format the file system
>Download Stage 3
>Download Portage
>Chroot
>Set Flags
>Download kernel source
>Compile the kernel
>Install grub bootloader
>Setup host, user, pass
>Install X + drivers
>Install WM
>startx
/g/ thinks installing Gentoo is hard or something?
>>53486332
Nope just time consuming
>>53486332
It actually is hard, for Winfag gaymer manchildren.
But it's not hard for normal people that know how to read a manual. It just takes way too long and it's not really worth it.
It's not that hard since there are manuals and guides available everywhere. However it will take some time.
>>53486412
It only takes 20 minutes to compile the kernel on an i7
>>53486332
Its not. Installation is a trivial task on any distro, the only people who dont get this are Archfags.
>>53486332
Have you do it? pic or GTFO
>>53486513
Arch is easier to install than Gentoo, and you can be done with everything and in a functional desktop environment in like 15-20 minutes.
>>53486576
yes senpai
>>53486513
i use arch
installation is trivial for any OS...
Fuck even Linux from scratch is trivial
how does my choice of linux distro make me less capable of installing a fucking piece of software? lol
>>53486465
20 minutes for ONLY the kernel is pretty bad
>>53486616
>fish
my nigga
>>53486577
I didn't say anything different, but 99% of Arch elitism is based on the fact that installing it makes them feel like some kind of linux gods because hurr durr no installer.
As I said, a distro that is actually hard to install has yet to be created.
>>53486667
because why would you do that
and even further fucking how do you make something so simple in any way difficult??
>>53486719
I mean, there is suicide linux so why not a distro where the installation is counter intuitive and not documented.
>>53486740
didnt know about that, very neat
That's a nice gentoo box. Where do I get one?
>>53486753
>nouveau
haha no eat a dik
>>53487969
Buy Gentoo
>>53486577
And OpenBSD is even easier. Just keep hitting enter until it lets you boot into your OS in 10 to 20 min. From there just install whatever DE/WM you wish, and you're all set. There's no reason to make things needlessly complicated and/or time consuming. While you were fucking around compiling fucking everything, or ricing a broken system, you could have been doing something worthwhile instead, such as locating and bringing to light those mythical backdoors that someone is inevitably going to bring up, thinking that repeating years old hearsay makes people think that they are clever, or have a fucking clue.
>>53486659
It used to take a whole day so it's an improvement
>>53488947
I like OpenBSD, but there's three reasons why I don't use it:
1. Seems to perform consistently slower than Linux, especially when watching any video above 720p
2. I can't play a free software game on there
3. I can't use my Wacom Bamboo graphics tablet
These are 3 things I could kinda do without, but there isn't a killer feature that OpenBSD has for my purposes that I don't have in Linux.
>>53488947
>OpenBSD
>On a desktop
Bitch it's what your router runs
>>53489006
Yea, it's definitely not for anyone who cares about performance. I usually keep some distro of Linux installed too for entertainment related stuff.
>>53489169
Which explains perfectly why it comes with X, and cwm. Clearly things needed on a router.
>>53489209
>he doesnt have X on his router
>laughingwhores.jpeg
>>53489192
OpenBSD is like a perfect operating system if it weren't for these things - which ironically would be fixed if more people (and thus more developers) used it.
It's a real shame that OpenBSD and the BSDs in general have been pushed to the sidelines - and I'm saying this as a GPL fan.
>>53486616
>4.1.5
ancient/10
honestly compiling was good to do about a decade and a half ago but these days the boost is pretty negliable with todays hardware and modern software like firefox it becomes to much of a chore
>>53486332
>"Install Ubuntu"
>Click "Next"
>Click "Next"
Done.
Much better.
Computers are supposed to make your life easier, to bring automation to the table.
Only autists care about >muh CFLAGS, Gentoo is for people with mental disease
Linus Torvalds said Debian was too complicated for him, he didn't know how to install it. LINUS FUCKING TORVALDS, so let alone Aspergertoo
Get over yourselves fucking neckbeard scum.
>>53486374
>>53486332
WTF are you doing with stage 3? The whole point is a bootstrap from stage 1...
>>53489396
lol I get the impression gentoo raped your mum in front of you or something, it's the only excuse for all this glorious mad
>>53489396
What? I installed Debian in like 30 minutes and I've never used Linux before, nor do I have any programming experience
>>53486616
>he fell for the gentoo meme
So is your technical frustration gone, your life 300% better and your head underneath a fedora?
>>53489418
They don't release stage 1 anymore m8, a shame too because it made a linux from scratch easy as shit. Download stage 1 cross-compiler, compile bash, coreutils, grub, kernel and init and you had a basic linux.
>>53486667
>As I said, a distro that is actually hard to install has yet to be created.
LFS
>>53489745
>LFS
>hard
ayy lmao it's just tedious and useless
>>53489284
>>4.1.5
>ancient/10
stable arch desu
https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
>>53489776
With that reasoning, nothing is hard if you spend enough time on it
>>53489724
Doesn't the benefit of a stage1 install stop after the first emerge -e world?
>>53486332
I want to reinstall gentoo after distrohopping back to arch, but everything takes a long ass time
>>53489831
it's not as though your doing much with the time you have anyway it seems
>>53489831
For what reason would you go from Gentoo to Arch?
I once installed gentoo on a PowerBook G3 400MHz with 256 MB RAM just because I could. Took like 5 days lmao.
>>53489850
full time student, taking 17 hours
>>53489856
long story, had a desktop with gentoo and thinkpad with arch, desktop was seized by the federal government, stuck with just arch right now
>>53489856
He probably got sick of 6 hour update sessions
>>53489724
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/FAQ#How_do_I_install_Gentoo_using_a_stage1_or_stage2_tarball.3F
>>53489549
There were times where the Debian installer was actually pretty shitty and confusing.
Also he didn't say that he didn't know how to install it, he just thinks that something as trivial as installing and maintaining an OS shouldn't require any effort.
>>53489888
Where the hell is 17 hours full time? I have 24 hours and still plenty of spare time.
it takes 2 weeks+ to compile, and I already use old hardware...
why bother
>>53490283
when you're a lazy cunt
>>53486332
https://bitbucket.org/ Ulikea/shellscripts/raw/ df09842f71130c2768dab570f5336ae90dfe5e86/Gentooinstallscripts.bash
so easy
>>53490261
Makes sense. Still, installing Debian was just as easy if not easier than installing windows, and takes less time. Only downside being that you need an internet connection to do it without a full install already downloaded on your external drive/disc
>>53486332
I always get hung up on the kernel config. I feel like I miss some important parts and something ends up not working properly after it's been compiled. Next time I try to install it I'll get it for sure
>>53491529
>something ends up not working properly after it's been compiled.
lspci is your friend, or just use genkernel.
>>53491662
How much slower is a genkernel at booting and in use?
>>53492137
booting is obviously slower, in use you won't notice.
>>53486332
you forgot the part where
>reboot
>bootloader doesn't work for some reason
>>53490291
> you need skylake-zen tier hardware to install gentoo
The previous owner of my X220T fell for the 16GB meme. Now on gentoo, portage compiles everything in TMPFS ram. A world update that includes gcc, libreoffice, and firefox takes about 2 hours. Just long enough to show your girl how much you care.
