>15TB of meme's
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/samsungs-monstrous-15tb-ssd-is-now-shipping/
>>53365921
>highest capacity single storage device ever made
>it's in a fucking 2.5 inch form factor
Holy shit
I don't get it. Why?
I'm all for advancing technology, but what's the point of this?
>>53365980
>why
google needs bigger drives to store your browsing habbits
>>53365980
Enterprise and servers.
>>53365980
SSDs are now bigger and more reliable than HDDs.
Once they have the trifecta of cheaper the entire HDD market is finished.
>>53365993
>>53365995
>enterprise
>2.5''
Also, pretty sure 10k rpm drives are much much cheaper for the same size.
>>53366034
MUCH cheaper. This fucking thing's 8 grand.
That said, 15TB in a single drive is still amazing
>>53366034
Well 10K rpm drivers are still hundreds of time slower in IOPS. Imagine a big database that requires rapid small transactions of read and writes.
>>53366080
Most cost-effective would be to have SSDs for caching and HDDs for bulk storage.
>>53365921
i guess they use up less power and generate less heat than regular 10k drives.
i wonder how much would a data center save from using them.
>>53366121
Tiered storage. It's a thing.
But scale is also a thing. 25 of these, backed by 250 8TB spindles, for example.
Why weren't more companies funding SSD development before? This literally saves companies tons of cash on cooling and electricity.
Now we are just hitting 15th of storage...
>>53366029
HDD tech has stagnated for a while now. All the R&D is going to SSDs and the like.
What would happen if the PS5 had this kind of storage?
What kind of advancements would occur in gaming?
>>53365980
>I'm all for advancing technology, but what's the point of this?
are you an asshole?
>>53366121
this is generally how it's done, sometimes with ramdisks for frequently used locations.
there are all-flash arrays like solidfire and xtremio though.
>>53368358
More uncompressed audio files
>>53368358
Higher res textures?
FLAC audio?
That's about it. It's not like programming takes up space.
Storage isn't the bottleneck here. I don't think the PS5 or PS6 would be able to render 10k+ textures.
>>53368358
absolutely zero since it will be bottlenecked by all the other shitty components
>>>/v/
Where can I buy this as a private citizen?
>>53368358
Uncompressed textures and Uncompressed audio files, size inflation
Slightly reduced load times
processing power has been the bottleneck since last gen
>>53367127
Good i am sick of seagates and wd's shitting themselves
hopefully they will last until i can transfer my crap over to a 20tb ssd
>>53365980
I need them for my 12 bay NAS to store all my lolis and memes.
>>53365961
You still can't put it into a laptop.
It's in the 2.5" double height form factor for server bays.
>>53368622
you can right now, just buy it from an enterprise-oriented vendor like ingram
>>53368622
You will have to wait at least the 2 weeks it takes samsung to ship these off, then you'll have to find someone selling them, usually enterprise retailers
>>53365980
>I'm all for advancing technology
>what's the point of this?
this is like a contradictory statement on itself
I think I might need to start buying up cheap hard drives before the market crashes on them completely.
SSDs still aren't reliable enough for long term solid storage imo. I own seven of them, none have failed, i have an old SV200 from 2011 that still runs great and who knows how many TBs have been written to it, but i'm still scared of a controller just failing randomly.
Even failing hard drives can usually have data salvaged off of them if you know what you're doing. Failed SSD = send it off, pay 800 bucks, have a nice day
No thanks.
>>53368969
>Failed SSD = send it off
SSDs should go into a read-only mode when they fail, unless the controller completely fucks out.
>>53368969
>i have an old WD black from 2011 that still runs great and who knows how many TBs have been written to it, but i'm still scared of a drive motor just failing randomly.
>>53368969
Dude just back it up
>>53369007
>I didn't even read the second part of the post, see how clever i am tehe
>>53369032
>dude just backup your unreliable storage to other unreliable storage.
That's the point of buying a ton of multi TB hard drives. Have nothing but SSDs in all my computers, and a NAS some where with like 20TB of storage on HDDs for backups.
>>53365980
You can keep twice as many in the same physical space, and each has 3 times the data storage capacity. It's any server room keep's wet dream.
>>53368969
What an uninformed and ignorant opinion.
>>53368988
It's usually the controller that dies first unless it's a write-heavy application.
Samsung's 15TB drive has a warranty that covers an entire overwrite of the drive every day for 5 years.
>>53366034
>he doesnt know about size restricted Blade server environments
>>53366047
except it's not you fucking tard, have you ever priced a SAS drive? for the same capacity you'd need 26 drives at the standard market rate of $500 per disk is $13k(even if you get bottom of the barrel refurb drives it's still more expensive), that's before you even consider the costs of housing that many disks. it's over HDD's are finished.
>>53368969
>who knows how many TBs have been written to it
SMART should record that information, pic related my 830 256GB I bought in April 2012.
>>53368661
I just got a 1TB HDD too. SSD takeover of mass storage can't some soon enough.
Get cheaper dammit.
>>53365921
MY DICK IS ROCK HARD
>>53369320
>>53366047
Yeah enterprise HDDs are fucking retarded expensive compared to SSDs. They're literally sold by purist grandpas and vendor lock-in.
The most expensive SAS drives you can buy die more than plain old SATA 850 Pros, too.
>>53368584
This isnt about space
its about load performance and random read/write
open world games are SO FUCKING SMOOTH on a PC with an SSD compared to console faggotry.
>>53368969
>SSDs still aren't reliable enough for long term solid storage imo. I own seven of them, none have failed, i have an old SV200 from 2011 that still runs great and who knows how many TBs have been written to it, but i'm still scared of a controller just failing randomly.
Hard drives fail more and hard drives also have controllers
If you have seven SSDs use fucking RAID, idiot.
>>53369577
I bought a 1TB Mushkin Reactor a few weeks ago for just $220. Prices are getting lower, anon, just be patient
>$8000
literally who cares?
>>53366029
>SSDs are now bigger and more reliable than HDDs.
>More reliable
Literally has finite lifespan
>Bigger
This is completely irrelevant when the cost isn't even remotely comparable to a hardrive.
>500 gig SSD on sale for $250
>2tb HDD for $70
It's over HDD are finished.
You could make 1PB SSDs and it would never come close to mattering when the price is multi billions of dollars.
>>53369668
Damn son I remember when it was $1 per GB. This is great, we're almost there boys. We're gonna make it.
>>53369794
>hurrdurr muh reliability
Find me a hard drive with a ten year warranty
>>53369845
>thinks long term storage is 10 years
>10 year warranty* if you stay under xxx writes per day
>>53369801
Mushkin is also coming out with one of these soon:
https://techreport.com/news/29583/mushkin-previews-a-500-4tb-ssd-at-ces
>4TB
>$500
The only downside is that it's two 2TB SSDs glued together and put into a JBOD array rather than being an actual 4TB SSD.
>>53369480
older SSDs don't report host writes.
>>53369872
>literally have to overwrite the entire fucking drive every single day
>>53369668
$220 is still overpaying. people shouldnt be paying over $200 for one. $170 is the real pricepoint for 1tb now that is something like a sandisk ultra 2 which is a decent one
>>53369897
>$170 is the real pricepoint for 1tb now
What the fuck are you talking about? The lowest a 960GB/1TB SSD has gone is $200. We're not there yet.
>>53369794
>literally has finite lifespan
Both are the same so you're arguing a moot point.
>ssd are expensive compared to hdd argument
>500gb ssd is 250usd
>2tb HDD is 70usd
Remember the time when 250gb ssd were 1000usd? Exactly.
Tl;dr not knowing about supply and demand
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>>53369924
no, the week before black friday they were $170. that means anything over 200 is too much, especially for a god damn mushkin
>>53369943
>muh special sales
I can get a 1TB 850 evo at $160 in a combo sale.
Does that mean that $170 is too much for any SSD?
>>53369981
no, $200 is the most expensive you should purchase something recognizable. if it costs more, than you need to grow up and get some patience
>>53366034
The cheapest solution now is probably ultra blu-ray
>>53365921
I guess the benefit is that when it fails you'll lose all of your data instead of just 1/8th of it. That way you can just kill yourself right on the spot without bothering to drift around wasting your time in this whole "life" meme.
How many TBs would be needed to store everything a person would download (on average) from the internet?
I'm sitting at almost 900 GB but I've deleted torrented shows over the years and I have 8 boxes of schoolwork (college and grad school) that I could scan.
So if I were to guess would 10 TB be enough for most people?
>controller has more RAM than my computer
How long until we just straight up run Linux off the drive?
>>53365980
Did you really just ask "why"?
Really. Like, you can't figure out why server farms need more storage?
I'm assuming this is bait, but if it's not I would rethink my choice of forum... or maybe not. Maybe this is where you belong.
>>53370100
Times are changing anon.
Normies are taking more photos and videos (even 60fps ones) with their faggiphones now.
If you torrent a lot, you'll hit 10TB within a couple of years (depending on your bandwidth and bandwidth limit, if any). You should always have a backup copy of your shit btw.
>>53370381
Thankfully I do. Pretty maddening how a lot of people I know don't do this.
>>53369624
>>53369320
>SAS drives
fug that, if you production stuff just get enterprise SATA HDDs. The WD RE4 series is pretty good. Not as fast of course but they're reasonably priced.
This year is going to be interesting.
So many different competing storages on the market.
Can't wait to see what kinda beast 3DXpoint is going to be.
Probably makes the 950 Pro look like a complete joke.
>>53369882
Doesn't matter what the hell it really is, the price is great.
That thing is going to do what Crucial did with their 500$ for 1TB drive some time ago.
It was way cheaper than anything else on the market and forced everyone to step up their game.
That SSD is going to drag the prices down big time.
