If you use it, you are responsible for creating the expectation that policies like this are acceptable to the public:
"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary."
This is a pretty good article about it if you want details:
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2015/08/windows_10_privacy_problems_here_s_how_bad_they_are_and_how_to_plug_them.html
Funny that slate.com was once a Microsoft property.
Disinformation faggots like you are even worse and make everybody caring about privacy seem like a loony.
These policies are about their cloud service and got nothing to do with Winshit 10 if you don't use the cloud crap.
>>53346626
>implying they won't make the cloud crap mandatory sooner or later
I'd wager good money that in a year or two they'll make local user accounts an enterprise-only feature. Everyone else will have to have an MS account, with all it's EULA strings attached. They aren't idiots, they know that the way to rob people of privacy is to get everyone on board and then slowly change things, the way Facebook and Google have done.
>>53346626
Turns out it's practically impossible to use Windows 10 without the 'cloud crap'. Even if you use a hosts file to redirect MS domains to localhost, the Windows Kernel has IP addresses hard-coded internally and it will connect with MS.
>>53347524
No, he means if you literally take your content and store it in OneDrive.
Go read the EULA for Google Drive, Dropbox, Box, iCloud or whatever fucking service is out there (besides privacy focused services like Spideroak) and they all say roughly the same thing.
>>53346871
>I'd wager good money that in a year or two they'll make local user accounts an enterprise-only feature
Possible but not given, so not a very important point NOW.
Besides, there is nothing wrong to use plebs as beta testers. Your grandma is happy when her shit get's backed up in the cloud and personal ads suggests her a new vibrator. Auto updates also help plebs to be more secure and reporting errors from Home customers, makes Enterprise more stable. And Enterprise software will always have privacy.
The only problem with all this is the creation of the "I have nothing to hide" - mindset but adding privacy options into Windows won't change it until people see the consequences this attitude can have.
>>53346626
I don't really know why you're calling me out as opposed to the author - the linked article refutes your point and you haven't provided a source for your claim it's only about cloud services.
"The problems start with Microsoft’s ominous privacy policy, which is now included in the Windows 10 end-user license agreement so that it applies to everything you do on a Windows PC, not just online."
Enjoy MicroDick's iron cock in a silk condom Windows 10 "users"
>>53349258
There is nothing ominous about it and the writer clearly couldn't be assed to comprehend what he read or intentionally presents untrue things to get clicks.
>>53349793
>all this denial
So my wife and I have Win 10 and about a month ago her laptop went back to the circle update screen (like pic related) out of the blue and when it finished it still said she had Windows 10 installed. However there have been small changes to the UI such as the intensity and shade of the taskbar colors and the order of menu items in windowshade menus.
Meanwhile my machine has been unable to install a single update for two months and says "some updates failed to install, please try again later" no matter how many times I mash the retry button.
All the update settings are at their default values.
>>53349855
Just read the shit yourself, the whole thing and not out of context bits.
>>53349952
You should ask your wife's son to take a look at it.
>>53349967
>Now with Windows 10, important parts of Windows are based in the cloud, interacting with online services.
>important parts of Windows are based in the cloud
>parts of Windows are based in the cloud
>http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/online-services
Uh huh.
>>53349952
That was the upgrade to Windows 10 1511. Consider it an entirely new build of Windows 10 not an update.
>>53350044
They list this "important" services later and how your data is used for them. If you don't like it, don't use the said service. What is there not to understand?
>>53349952
Did you try a clean install yet?
>>53346596
Windows 10 is benign. Anyone who thinks it violates privacy is a loon. I even use OneDrive daily and I have nothing to hide so I have nothing to fear.
>>53350139
Okay I wondered.
Now for the real question. Why the hell does my computer suddenly not update anything at all for any reason, even though all the update settings are "on" and in automatic mode?
I mean it would be one thing if I was my grandma and I flipped updates to the "off" position but on the surface there doesnt appear to be any reason for the process to always fail.
>>53350219
>Unsupported statement. Unfounded insult. 'I have nothing to hide'
Good argument.
>>53347524
Turns out /g/ doesn't know how to configure a router to drop packets to specified IP ranges.
What a surprise.
>>53350372
Show me one shred of evidence that it violates my privacy Lintard. The only thing that would get me in trouble would be if I uploaded CP to OneDrive, which you have to be retarded to do.
>>53350382
Wow you have really drank the MS koolaid. You think it's reasonable to need to configure a fucking router to protect yourself from your own OS?
>>53346596
>"Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails, other private communications or files in private folders), when we have a good faith belief that doing so is necessary."
Any service will do the same. Google. Apple. Facebook. Snapchat. All if it.
Cloud integration is causing FUD. If you don't like it, don't use it.
Having seen the full handshake and level of data transmitted, I don't give a fuck about telemetry.
>>53346596
It is an operative system for shitskins, after all.
No self respecting white person would employ this OS on a daily basis.
Statistics show that white people use apple products instead of Microsoft/Android trash.
>>53350593
>Having seen the full handshake and level of data transmitted, I don't give a fuck about telemetry.
Do share.
>>53350593
>>53346626
>>53347637
How much are they paying you?
No where in the EULA does it say it is only valid for OneDrive. Their "private folders" mean exactly that, private folders with no relation to OneDrive whatsoever.
>>53350679
>https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-US/
Read the first paragraph.
>>53350634
"whites" are a bunch of cucks and degenerates, so that's a good thing
>>53350709
>References to Microsoft services in this statement include Microsoft websites, apps, software and devices.
>software
>We collect content of your files and communications when necessary to provide you with the services you use. For example, if you receive an email using Outlook.com, we need to collect the content of that email in order to deliver it to your inbox, display it to you, enable you to reply to it, and store it for you until you choose to delete it. Examples of this data include: the content of your documents, photos, music or video you upload to a Microsoft service such as OneDrive
>example, examples
> Finally, we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content (such as the content of your emails in Outlook.com, or files in private folders on OneDrive)
>such as
>>53350530
No, but i expected people on /g/ of all places to know how to properly get around it.
>>53350838
>We collect content of your files and communications when necessary to provide you with the services you use.
This makes it pretty clear that they collect data if it's necessary for a service, say if you want to store your horse porn in the cloud, they need to access it, to put it in the cloud.
Obviously they need to access your mails too if you use Outlook shit. What's your point?
>>53350903
I don't care about getting around it, Linux is better anyway. Point is you've given them permission. Maybe next Windows update will change the MS servers and you'll need to update your firewall (if you're paying close enough attention to notice), or maybe next update will connect through random servers on the cloud... either way if you're a 10 user, you accepted the agreement and given MS permission to do it.
>>53350139
>>53350266
And is there a way to see what build I have? Speccy doesn't show me anything.
>>53351778
Never mind, I just figured out I'm on 10240.
Why the hell won't this thing update itself...
