Why would you do that?

>>53332201
Do what, specifically?

Are you going to try again or are you a failure who is broken now.

>>53332216
I am gonna try again in 2 weeks. Pretty confident that I'll pass pretty easily the next time.

Which exam did you take?

Why microsoft?

>>53332277
70-410 Installing server 2012 r2

>>53332320
Linux certs aren't really that valuable.

>>53332191
Are you Indian?

Do you regret your decision?

What is your current job?

>>53333045
White
No I don't, I'll get a 10% raise once I get my cert
I am a sysadmin

>>53332191
>70-410
how the fuck does someone fail something like this?

How did you get a sysadmin job without any server certs?

>>53333540
I studied about 1 week and spent 40 minutes on the test, there is a lot of content in the exam that has nothing to do with anything I've ever done at work, for instance, I have never worked at a place that didn't already have GPOs and a forest/domain setup.

>>53333704
Get hired as junior desktop support tech
become regular desktop support tech
become lead desktop support tech
switch jobs to hybrid desktop support/jr sysadmin role
switch jobs again as a full time sysadmin

While certs are common in IT, they are not everything. The highest paid person I know doesn't have a single cert and the biggest idiot I ever worked with had a ton of certs.

I'm at the 5 year mark and certs are a good way of adding a little bit of extra differentiation, enabling a higher tier of pay.

>>53332320
Because most companies use MS servers and shit.

>>53332191
Are there any easy certs to obtain to fill up resume with?

>>53334480
yep

>>53334510
Too many certs are a red flag.

If you are just starting out, get an A+ or something, also getting a cert before you have experience is a red flag too.

Really you should only have certs for things you have hands on experience unless it is beginning tier.

>>53334570
How are too many certs bad?

>>53334624
Because in IT there are people known as paper certs, basically folks who just make a hobby of getting certs that have no application to anything they do, often times they'll get info from a brain dump and have no actual knowledge on the subject.

This is common enough that when you see a guy with something like 8-9 different certs his resume gets trashed.

this cert sounds like some kind of meme.

how hard is it to ref material on demand anyhow.

I don't get this shit

>>53334665
Scary, guess I'll not try and get certs then. I'm just looking for my first job,

>>53334683
The exam wasn't that hard, I finished in 45 minutes. It had a 2 hour time limit. I just reviewed some of the objectives MS had on their website and went in with light preparation. My missed passing by a few percentage points, in 2 weeks I will probably crush it.

>>53334699
An A+ is fine and expected, it'll count for about 6 months of experience.

>>53334732
What sort of place would one inquire for a first/beginner IT job?

>>53334750
I started at a consulting firm that was hiring out desktop support contractors for 1-2 month projects at large tech companies.

>>53334722
>The exam wasn't that hard,

I bet. which is why the whole thing is perplexing.

>>53334832
There was a lot of stuff that if you didn't have specific knowledge of going in, you just had a 10-25% chance of getting right.

>>53334853
I don't think you're understanding what I'm saying.

like. what is the point of this cert?

>>53334879
I think of it like an a+ or net+

Just something to get you past hr but not something so advanced or specialized that it raises red flags about being a braindump tier cert monkey.

>>53334879
It's easy for me because I've been working with windows server 2012 r2 since 2014. Doing DNS, DHCP, fmso roles, global catalogs, hyper-v, active directory, file and print services, powershell, dism.

Someone without any experience would have a really tough time with it. It basically proves that the experience that you list on your resume isn't fake. I learned a little bit about GPOs and I also learned that our AD structure is overly complex, once I finish my cert I'll talk to my manager about simplifying our domain structure a little bit.

The biggest surprise is how much they put hyper-v in all the different server 2012 exams, I would expect that hyper-v would be its own MCSE path, but I guess not.

>>53334926
To be honest looking at the 411,412,413 & 414, I think I could do better on those tests with the same amount of prep, they have a lot more to do with my day to day duties, I don't spend that much time spinning up 2012 servers.

>>53333827
any advice on how to get started in your industry with no experience? also how much knowledge did you hhave when you started

>>53335169
Pimp yourself out to IT consulting companies, the starting position in IT is a contractor, most companies will not hire people with no experience.

I had a home lab before I started, also growing up my dad was a sysadmin (he's a CIO now) and my knowledge was pretty good.

Finding a mentor was the thing that helped me out the most, for me my first mentor was a guy I played wow with who was very much a FreeBSD guy, he taught me linux, which really taught me how computers work much better than windows could. Knowing linux was a pretty big differentiator in interviews, the hiring manager was always pleasantly surprised.

Anyone got a CCNP R+S?
How much harder is it than CCNA R+S?
What's your salary and job?

Would moving to the US be smarter financially than staying in the US (from a Cisco certified employability standpoint)

>>53335442
My company had 2 network engineers, one CCNA r+s and the other ccnp r+s the CCNP just bounced, he was much higher paid than the other ccna guy. the CCNA guy also had very high esteem for him.