What does /g/ see as the best cpu for video editing/rendering? AMD or Intel. I use Adobe Premiere, Photoshop, After Effects if that helps at all.
>>53296727
get amd 8xxx
Stay away from 9xxx
Protip:wait for zen
>>53296727
Depends on budget.
If you're only capable of spending less than $500, then the FX-8350 is a great choice for such workloads. The core count comes in handy.
If you're able or willing to splash out the cash, then i7's all the way, possibly Multiple Xeons if you're ok to bite the power consumption and heat.
>>53296774
>8350
>not 8320E and converting it to a 8350
So AMD over Intel unless able to spend the extra cash.
>>53296790
Fine.
>8350 or comparable variants thereof.
>>53296790
why not just an 8300 that's better factory clocked and probably cheaper?
>>53296810
So anything over 8350 is just a bit of a waste of money until zen.
>>53296809
Pretty much.
Anything Intel can offer in the price range of the 83** chips simply cannot compete in properly threaded workloads.
Newer i7's do come out above the 83** chips, but they are notably more expensive.
Xeons are a strong choice for workstations, but not ideal for everyday use due to excessive power consumption and heat output, but can be found reasonably cheap in matched pairs on eBay. Or even old workstations thrown out or sold by companies.
>>53296837
The 9*** chips were never anything to desire. I think AMD knew this themselves, it was more-so a tour-de-force of how well the chips can OC, even in the factory. As to arouse attention once more in the chips.
You'd now be lucky to find an 83** chips that can clock that high, as those that are capable are picked out and binned to be made up to 9*** series chips. But it's not impossible to find one that can. That is if you're even willing to OC a workstation.
Xeon e3-1231v3.
8 thread lga 1150 socket cpu. Essentially an i7-4790 with no igpu. Microcenter has them for $210. Other places around $225. Get a cheap h97 motherboard for $80.
Compared to $150 for an fx-83xx and another $130-$160 for a motherboard with good enough voltage regs and good north bridge heatsink to actually handle the FX with a mild OC. Not to mention a minimum extra $30 for after market cooler.
>>53296759
>TFW I have overclocked 9590
>>53296790
I have three 8320e's and none of them work at 4.0Ghz nowhere near the default voltage level of 8350. But on the other hand, two of them go to 3.8 with the default voltage (1.16) and their power consumption increase only 10 watts from the stock 3.2.
>>53296891
Let's work under the assumption that both chips will run at stock, and compare them there. Then we can assume that OP intends to OC. Hardly a fair comparison otherwise.
>>53296880
I bought an fx-9370 for $200 brand new at Microcenter when AMD finally realized how futile it was to try and sell it for $650. At the time, an 8350 was $170 so i didn't mind spending the extra $30 for a guaranteed binned chip. I had the fx-9370 clocked to 5.2ghz @ 1.54v under custom water. Chewed through bluray encoding like a beast.
>>53296891
I've got an e3-1241v3 in my main machine, it runs pretty well but I'm gonna upgrade to a Broadwell-E CPU when they release.
Does it truly matter what software I use? I used to use Vegas, but like I said use adobe religiously now. Do certain programs work better with AMD or Intel?
>>53296914
>>53296914
At stock the 4790 non k smokes the 83xx. Around 4.3-4.4ghz the 83xx series is within a few % of the still stock 4790. Not to mention the huge difference in single thread performance.
The xeon e3-1231v3 is the 4790 with no igpu.
If OP is on a strict strict budget, then an fx83xx will suit him fine. But a work station should be dependable and preferably not overclocked to reduce any potential for problems.
Ive been on both sides of the fence in regards to intel vs amd so do not think im fan boy-ing for intel here. But in regards to pure out of box experience, intel is ahead.
>>53296999
No not really. Those programs are just heavily multi-threaded which means more cores/threads = better performance. That and more ram. For your needs, more ram > faster ram.
>>53297034
I do not dare debate for a second that an 8350 will beat out an i7 in OP's specified workloads (One could argue a case for pure number-crunching) the 8350 was only ever consistently beating out the 3770k, against the newest i7's, it puts up a hell of a fight, but the i7's do come out on top.
Obviously, the one thing OP has failed to give us, is his budget, so there can be no "right" answer for the time being.
>>53297057
Glad some one touched up on RAM. Always wondered if purchasing faster ram was worth it.
>>53297093
will not*
typo
>>53296925
Im waiting on Zen (stupidly enough) before I do the same. I want X99 already but Im holding hope against hope for Zen to succeed so I can replace my 4690k
>>53297093
Budget truly does not depend as long as it is not in el quads my good friend. I'm willing to put good money into the processor, but would prefer bang to my buck. Sounds like the 8350 is a good product for it's price, but newests i7's are highly price but seem to do fantastic.
>>53297130
Pretty much. You get what you pay for in this regard unfortunately.
>>53297151
Simply because this is for my own personal use and not work, in other words I will get no money in return for what I create besides wedding videos every now and then, I wm leading towards AMD 8xxx, but am doing research on zen.
>AMD
>>53297227
At least contribute to the conversation instead of simply posting el meme.
>>53296912
>the default voltage (1.16)
my default voltage on my 8320 is 1.4
>>53296727
Basically as expensive as you can afford (hexacore, eightcore, Xeon E5 etc).
At low budgets, FX eightcores could be efficient choice, but above certain price level, you can only go with Intel as AMD doesn't have an alternative above.
>>53297194
>but am doing research on zen.
There is nothing to research.
AMD have only told it that "It has met expectations"
which means an overall IPC uplift of 40% vs Excavator. Along with TDP of 95watt.
That is everything we know of Zen performance-wise. Whether or not Zen will exceed this we don't know.
Hell, we don't even REALLY know if it has hit that 40%. Personally I remain hopeful. Keller was brought back to work on Zen. Accompany his design talent with a MASSIVE jump in production process, we're going 32nm to 14nm, a jump like that alone, you would expect to see notable overall improvements from a change in production process anyway, but a jump like this is something to be interested by.
Honestly, we can speculate, and hype all we want. AMD will keep their lips sealed on this, the same way they did Fury. Keep expectations under control, and Zen will not be a disappointment. AMD have told us that Zen has met their expectations, that is all we know.
>>53297340
So I will ask you, buy now or wait for zen. I know it's a tough one to answer because theoretically zen COULD flop or be a good jump.
>>53297413
There are 2 possibilities.
1) Zen will launch sometime in Q2 with Polaris, possibly at the same event. Who knows? If you should find this possibility to your liking, then wait.
Otherwise, we have option 2.
2) Polaris will launch in Q2, with a paper launch of Zen. Zen will likely then later launch in Q3. In which case, you should buy now.
If you're that interested in your hobbies, then I would just say buy a chip now, whether that be an i7, a Xeon, or an 8350, and consider your options in a year's time if you feel that your chosen product is not performing up to scratch, and you need to upgrade.
Zen will only "flop" if people do not limit their expectations, there are physical limits to what can be done. But Keller has broken the laws of physics on multiple occasions now, his mere existence is an anomaly.
>>53297507
/thread
Why is no one laking the distinction between consumer i7s and professional i7s? Go lga2011-3 and the i7-5820k. You can get it in microcenter for $300 and the motherboards have come down to around $150. Microcenter usually has a combo deal going on dropping the price another $50 if you buy both together
$400 for a six core 12 thread intel CPU beast that can OC well with the right cooler is a great deal. Thr platform is even cheaper than the 6700k right now.
OP: if you actually wamt the best multithreaded performance, 2011-3 is the only socket, and it wont even break the bank. It's only 40% more expensive than the 8350 platform (assuming $130 mobo) and performs more than 50% better. It even makes sense from a value standpoint compared to AMD if you can find the discounts I mentioned.
>>53297662
Because usually if you're looking at 2011 socket CPUs, they're going to be Xeons.
>>53297340
they revised it.
zen is beyond expectations.
>>53297748
Not unless youre running a 24/7 rig and care about power. They're the same architecture, just the Xeons run at lower voltages amd speeds for power efficiency. Not until you get to the $1k chips or higher do you start seeing Xeon chips as more performancr than the Core series of similar cost, and thats due to increased core count. Pretty sure paying 2 grand for a 12 core cpu running at 2.3 GHz isnt what OP had in mind.
Or you could just be stupid and buy the slowet clocked and worse performing yet more expensive chip under the false idea that youll save that cost on electricity, which womt happen unless that chip gets years worth of 100% load in running time.
xeons you fucking noob
that's plural
dual watercooled E5-2687w V2 with a quadro m4000 reporting in. currently recasing it all into mahogany for as a shelf-computer.
My level: do you know what to do with it?
>>53297849
Then base your assumptions of Zen's performance upon the initial release that Zen has MET expectations. So that you can guarantee that you will not be disappointed.
Never buy a centurion chip, just get an 8320e/8370e (you'll be wanting the lower voltage) and clock that shit up. Still the major downside of this is you NEED a high end mobo to handle the power draw (it triggers me when I see tech sites testing a 9590 on the oh-so-popular 970 gaming board -a board no way in hell rated for that sort of punishment).
>>53297935
>My level: do you know what to do with it?
Le trashbin.
>>53297935
>no delta fans
I see you are a complete pleb.
>>53298317
This. The fx-9370 and 9590 NEED top end motherboards with good voltage regs and heatsinks on said regs. My 9370 @ 5.2ghz was drawing close to 350w from the wall by itself during encoding.
Get the fx-8370e. Lower tdp but higher boost clock than 8320e at same voltage.
>>53297935
What is all that for?
>>53298660
And a fire extinguisher in case something goes wrong
>>53298755
I like to live dangerously - this mobo isn't rated to take this sort of power draw. To be fair though, IBT is a torture test rather than a real world usage scenario and it causes my shit to run a good 10c hotter than anyhting else i've thrown at it.
>>53298681
for shitposting on /g/
>>53296759
If you can't afford a 6 core Intel next best is an 8320e that's been overclocked.
>>53296790
Why would you pick an 8320E over the 8320?
Wait for Zen unless you want to pay a grand for an 8-core haswell-e to encode video (especially 10-bit HEVC).
>>53299268
Lower voltage, tdp, and energy consumption.
8320e is only 95w.
>>53297507
It has been confirmed by AMD Zen launches in Q4 2016.
Polaris probably July, June if lucky.
