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Got expelled from school today. So. Basically. Nothing. How
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Got expelled from school today.

So. Basically. Nothing.

How will I afford comcast now /g/ents?
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How'd you manage that?
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You must have done something really fucking stupid to get expelled
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>>53148916
There's plenty of ways to manage that. He might have gotten caught cheating, he might have let his grades slip too low for too long, or he might have gone into an autistic rage and gotten kicked out for threatening someone.
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>>53148916

I sent a series of emails to professors that contained profanity. Such as "How the fuck can I take a test on black board which you didn't add?"I am appealing for first amendment violation, as profanity is protected speech.
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>>53148856
get a job in a factory and work 80 hours a week, and then realize you don't need internet because you spend all your time at work
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>>53148951
>I am appealing for first amendment violation, as profanity is protected speech.
The first amendment protects your speech from government censorship you retard, not expulsion from school.
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>>53148951
The first amendment is about protecting you in court not when you're a dumbass and can't be professional when contacting your professors.
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>>53148960

Universities and colleges ARE government institutions. I.E A STATE FACILITY. Nice bait.
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>>53148967
>Universities and colleges ARE government institutions
The vast majority of them are private institutions, and it wouldn't matter either way.
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>>53148951
post pics
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>>53148963

The constitution protects you from the government. A public or state college IS the government. Which is why the ACLU can sue colleges and universities for first amendment violations and censorship.

You are correct, however unprofessional, brash, or abrasive, does not equal expulsion.

>>53148986

The college I went to is a state university.
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>>53149003
Public colleges aren't the government. They're government institutions which means they can expel you for that shit if they want because they aren't bringing legal charges against you. You're still a fucking retard.
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Gee, that was sure smart.
>I'll be profane so they know I'm serious and need help!
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>>53149022

Violations of university policies does not always equal criminal charges. In fact, I was NOT criminally charged for anything.

>>53149030

Again, never said is was genius, I simply said profanity does not (I should say, should not) equal expulsion.
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>>53148951
>"How the fuck can I take a test on black board which you didn't add?"
You have school books right?

Use some fucking initiative, you child.
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>>53149052

Are you >implying that books contain tests the professor makes?

r u surus?
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>>53149048
>In fact, I was NOT criminally charged for anything
That's what he said you illiterate moron
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im sorry op
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>>53149048
>I simply said profanity does not (I should say, should not) equal expulsion.
You have the right to curse at your employer, without fearing jail.

But you should not expect your employer to let you keep your job after.
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>>53149048
>In fact, I was NOT criminally charged for anything
That's my fucking point. Them expelling you has nothing to do with first amendment protection. Only if they brought charges against you would you be protected. Since they didn't, the first amendment will not help you. Like i said, you're a dumbass and have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>53149080

Yeah, sucks. I am pretty sure I'll win the appeal, sense the appeal will involve other staff from other universities and colleges which can realize, that I may be an obnoxious asshole, cursing does not give the college the right to expel.

>>53149087
The first amendment does help me. The first amendment is a fucking civil matter genius, not criminal. When the government censors you, that is NOT criminal. Please go to college, just don't get expelled.
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>>53148856
Is that you Ryan?
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>>53149123

My name rhymes with that, yo. Where my dawgs at?
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>>53149086
HI, I'm not op but, fuck you tripfag your identity is worthless here, and just because of that tripfagging I didn't even read a thing.

>>53148953
This is a good plan, but honestly op why did you fuck up so bad?
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Constitution of the United States of America
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances


Doesn't sound like your situations involves congress making a law censoring your speech OP
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>>53149138
OP confirmed for Brian.
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>>53149157

They are censoring my ability to use profanity by punishing me for it. Try harder.
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>>53148960
This. Ever get something confiscated in school? That's theft right? No, because it's fucking school.
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>>53149116
Actually the first amendment IS to prevent criminal charges against you. If there is a law made that infringes upon your freedom of speech, you would be charged for it and then that case would be thrown out along with the law that brought charges against you. As I said, since you being expelled has nothing to do with criminal charges (or with laws which lead to criminal charges) the first amendment does nothing to help you.
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>>53149170

Something confiscated at school does constitute theft, what protects the school is typically in the handbook it states their policies regarding removing objects from cell phones from students, however, they must be returned.

If you mean the 2 lbs of dope in your locker, r u surus?
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>>53149168
Can you link me to the law that congress passed that's censoring your speech?
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>>53149168
You can still send the profane emails to the same professors, no? How are you being censored?
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>>53149168
The first amendment isn't some license to say what you want to whoever you want with no repercussions.
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>>53149205
Obviously because he's being punished for it.

Anything I don't like = censorship
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>>53149193

http://www.firstamendmentschools.org/freedoms/faq.aspx?id=12807

http://www.firstamendmentschools.org/freedoms/speech.aspx

By punishing me for cursing, that is censoring my speech. A consequence for speaking something that the institution my find vulgar or offense is illegal.
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>>53148951
write up a formal apology letter and hand it to the principal by hand
do not argue with anything he/she has to say, accept their judgement and hope for forgiveness
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>>53149218

Actually, it is, as long as ytou don't threaten them with harm or violence. Nice try.

>>53149222

No I was expelled and banned from campus, for cursing.
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>>53149226
That's not a law. That's some site that anyone could make. Could you please let me know which school expelled you? I would like to make a donation.
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>>53148856
>Comcastic!
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>>53149205
Tripfag shooo shoo I don't want to send you anything
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>>53149242
>No I was expelled and banned from campus, for cursing.

This is the First Amendment:
>Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Congress has made no law stopping you from being profane to the professors. You can continue being profane, and it will be 100% legal.
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>>53149243

http://www.georgiasouthern.edu/
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>>53149273

I KNOW, which is why it is in violation of the law to expel me for it. Holy fuck.
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>>53149138
Never mind it's not you, Ryan's gone because of a gun not cursing at professors
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>>53149226
Social repurcussions =/= censorship.
The First Amendment says that the United States government cannot put the kaibosh on shit you say.

It in no way, shape, or form says that you can't get expelled from a public school for swearing your head off at your professors when you could've visited them during office hours and just fucking explained what was going on.

Why don't you and Jerry Seinfeld go jack eachother off while crying about "muh PC oppression?"

>inb4 he calls "ad hominem" like a two-bit buzzword
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>>53149297
Oh damn, bro.
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>>53149309

A state institution which receives funding from the federal and state government MUST follow Federal and state laws.
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>>53149242
>Actually, it is, as long as ytou don't threaten them with harm or violence. Nice try.
No, it's really not. If you tell your boss to fuck off you're going to get fired, yet you never threatened him. There's nothing you can legally do about it and it's essentially the same goddamned thing here.
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>>53149273
Holy fuck tripfagz sure are stupid
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>>53149293
If you are working at some company, and your boss begins to insult you and swear at you, and you hand in your resignation letter... can your boss claim that you are violating the first amendment?
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>>53149293
perhaps if they gave you no warning, or if its not in the policy. Also if its a private school they can do whatever the hell they want.
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>>53149330

Your boss at subway does not work for the government, nor is subway a government financed organization which receives tax money in order to operate. Why can you fuck tards not figure this out?
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>>53149273
>>53149205
>>53149086
4chan cancer spotted
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>>53149345

IT IS A PUBLIC GOVERNMENT STATE INSTITUTION.

Georgia Southern University is a public university located on a 900-acre (3.6 km2) campus in Statesboro, Georgia, United States.[3] Founded in 1906, it is part of the University System of Georgia and is the largest center of higher education in the southern half of Georgia offering 117 academic majors in a comprehensive array of baccalaureate degrees and master's and doctoral programs.[4][5] The university is the fifth largest university in the University System of Georgia, with a fall 2012 enrollment of 20,574 students[6] Georgia Southern is classified as a Doctoral and Research University (2006) by The Carnegie Foundation for the Advancement of Teaching,[7] and as a comprehensive university by the University System of Georgia.
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>>53149343
Shut up tripfag
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>>53148856
>treat your professors like a child
>get expelled

what the fuck did you expect, you entitled shit
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>>53149339
>>53149362
>I don't like something!
>Better keep giving it attention!
Fucking idiots

OP your freedom of speech is protected but that does not mean you are free from the repercussions
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>>53149293
Not American but pretty sure university rules are in not way an extension of congressional jurisdiction. You will have been kicked out by some rule or arbitrary decision of some staff member the power of which will be derived form some university rule. Pretty sure this has nothing to do with congressional powers or constitutional law. However, not american nor a lawyer so do not act in reliance on this as advice.
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Man this thread is fucking dumb. Yeah OP is completely retarded, and his argument re: free speech is even stupider. But he's going to a state school in Georgia. Of course he's fucking mental.

Ignoring that completely, it's still stupid he got expelled for bitching out a prof. Everyone's an adult there, the prof should have just failed him, told him to fuck off and left it to admins if he tried to appeal the failure.
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>>53149365
DAT AUTISM, glad you're ass got SACKED
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Well this isn't even g related.

>>53149380
This
>>53149377
Kek a butthurt
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>>53149377
>>>53149339 (You)
>>>53149362 (You)
>>I don't like something!
>>Better keep giving it attention!
>Fucking idiots
>OP your freedom of speech is protected but that does not mean you are free from the repercussions
You're right I better stay hydrated
I love you tripfag
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>>53149323
Yep, and kicking your ass out for breaching student/professor conduct doesn't violate a one of them.
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>>53149372

I'm rich bitch. I actually asked him if he'd change the oil in my beemer. I told him his st johns bay collard shirts are for poor pieces of shit.

>>53149377
As long as they aren't illegal.

>>53149378
They are, if it is public or receives government grant money. Visit the ACLU.

>>53149380
The first admendment argument does apply. However, I concur that we are all adults, and though out of frustration, I sent an obscene message, it surely does not constitute expulsion. Not for the fucking tuition I pay.

>>53149386
Look for my thread in 3 days about how I won the appeal because my daddy has money. Or, because what the college is doing is ILLEGAL.
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>>53149369
>being this fucking stupid
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>>53149441
Don't believe you're the OP, post bread on ur gay ass server nerd
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OP I have a question

As someone who manages to do absolutely nothing yet still afford shit services, how have you managed to fuck up this hard?

I can understand a warning, but expulsion from profanity is making me think you're not a first time offender here.

While I'm at it - I may not be the most bright in government or history but I do believe your understanding of what you can appeal here to get back into there is pretty incorrect.

While it may be a public state institution, they still withhold the right to terminate your position as a student should they feel the need.

OP I suggest you consider what I'm saying as I'm a complete fucking retard and even i see where you're wrong and fucked up.

And that's not even going onto the Comcast part because that's a whole separate fuckup.
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>>53149365
http://students.georgiasouthern.edu/conduct/files/Code-15-16-table-of-contents-hyperlink-final-for-Adobe-hyperlinks-9.1.15.pdf

>STUDENT CONDUCT CODE VIOLATIONS
>9) Disorderly Conduct
>a) all lewd, obscene, indecent behavior, or other forms of disorderly conduct;

>XIV.SANCTIONS
>A student or student organization found responsible for violating the Student Conduct Code other than academic dishonesty may receive one or more of the sanctions listed below, as determined by the Director of Student Conduct after review of the findings of fact and recommendations of the University Student Conduct Board or Hearing Officer.

>4) Expulsion* – Expulsion is the most serious sanction that can be imposed on a Georgia Southern University student. Expulsion is a permanent forced withdrawal from the University. An expelled student may not enter any part of the campus without specific authorization from the Office of Student Conduct. Students who reside on campus will have a minimum of 48 hour notice to remove all of their belong

Pretty clear.
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>>53149471
>lewd
That's too easy. Everyone here would fuck up this one before any other point.
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>>53149416
No problem
>>53149380
Yeah getting expelled over it is fucking silly. Failing him should have been the furthest it went. Searched and could not find it, but theres an image of some student giving inappropriate names to his image files and uploading it. The prof caught it and gave him shit for it but that was it.
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Wow. You deserve it OP.
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>>53149455

In fact, it was me being facetious, because I cannot for the fucking life of me figure out how the ACLU has civil cases against public universities all the time, but people think they don't?

>>53149468
It was absolutely the first time. I had been trying to take this test for several days, and it would not let me due to an error within the blackboard system. While they university is aware, my grades were still reflecting a zero, and the professor was unwilling to let me retake the test.

No, you are in error, a state institution cannot recklessly accuse you of a violation and expel you without due process, per state regulations.

I actually have a local teleco with 50/5 fiber.

>>53149471

Per state regulations a university that is a state institution has to give due process. It does not have to be criminal. The institution cannot willy nilly remove you just because, you have paid to be there.
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He probably threatened them and didn't tell us.
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>>53148951
Professors don't have to put up with this shit. You can't expect to waltz in to the DMV, call the receptionist a cunt, and get all "MUH FIRST AMENDMENT!" when security escorts you out
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>>53149471
Shoo tripfag we hate you
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>>53149545
>too stupid to filter him or force anon so he posts shit like this
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>>53149537
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. He's probably underselling the twisted ass anal fissures he promised the prof.
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>>53149533
>The institution cannot willy nilly remove you just because, you have paid to be there.
They can, if you have signed a paper that says that you will abide by the university's rules.
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Kek the autism is sure high this evening g.

OP you kinda deserved it.
And wtf with the trip hater, learn to filter newfag

Also, install gentoo
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>>53149551
>force anon
Kek, that doesn't filter your cancerous posts. By the way, he probably has filters on and says that to all tripfags he sees hidden.
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>>53149537

I did not. Would not, and if it werent 4chuns, I'd show you the letter I was given.

>>53149539
Yes they do. Free speech. Progressives/libfags/dems can't take someone being mean to them. Gotta call the censor police if it doesnt align with their willy wonka fucked ideology.

Actually, it would depend on your demeanor, but the DMV is also a state organization. The context of which you say cunt, as long as no threatening gesture was involved, all you can expect is lack of cooperation.

>>53149568
Cursing is not a violation of rules. Find it in the GSU handbook. Does not exist.
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>>53149591
So a post is already cancerous if its by a tripfag?
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>>53148951
>having legitimate autism
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>>53149533
I've dealt with blackboard before. Its fucking gay and needs to die. Unfortunately that still means you have to give notice ahead if time. The very first moment it wasn't working properly you should have notified your instructor. Anything later than that is your own problem.

It doesn't make it any better when the service is not run by the instructors or institution, but even then if there's a problem you say so immediately with no delay.

I don't know how Georgia works, but here in California you can be expelled for basically any reason they feel. You're there by privilege, not by right. Same thing with driving.

I do wish you some success related to appealing it but even then I still feel the rather aggressive wording of your emails is quite subject to violation - maybe not expulsion but I still feel this isn't the first offense.
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>>53149594
http://students.georgiasouthern.edu/conduct/files/Code-15-16-table-of-contents-hyperlink-final-for-Adobe-hyperlinks-9.1.15.pdf

>STUDENT CONDUCT CODE VIOLATIONS
>9) Disorderly Conduct
>a) all lewd, obscene, indecent behavior, or other forms of disorderly conduct;

>XIV.SANCTIONS
>A student or student organization found responsible for violating the Student Conduct Code other than academic dishonesty may receive one or more of the sanctions listed below, as determined by the Director of Student Conduct after review of the findings of fact and recommendations of the University Student Conduct Board or Hearing Officer.

>4) Expulsion* – Expulsion is the most serious sanction that can be imposed on a Georgia Southern University student. Expulsion is a permanent forced withdrawal from the University. An expelled student may not enter any part of the campus without specific authorization from the Office of Student Conduct. Students who reside on campus will have a minimum of 48 hour notice to remove all of their belong

Missed it the first time?
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>>53149616

I was born this way, bruh.
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>>53149568
Your faggotry is beyond limits tripfag stop posting shit

Just hang yourself op
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>>53149605
Yeah
Honestly I don't understand why you would use an anonymous imageboard and use a feature that removes your anonymity. Trips are useful for identifying the OP in story threads and that's about it.
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>>53149629
He probably filtered your trip.
Try again without it.

Or they're actively avoiding it to insist they're in the right.
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>>53149629
You missed the fact that as a tripfag your contribution is worth next to nothing.


BTW op isn't even here anymore
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>>53149594
You should post the emails you sent. You can just censor the names.

>>53149605
The quality of tripfag posts is extremely low on average so it makes sense to hide them.
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>>53149629

Please point out how obscene language is disorderly, lewd, obscene (not referring to language tard), indecent.

Keep digging.
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>>53148951
Never go full retard.
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>>53149642
Exactly anon his contributions are worthless because he only wants attention, not helping.

And this isn't even g related
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>>53149642
I've been using this anonymous board for a decade, I just want to trip for a bit just for shits and giggles.
>>53149664
He should. I want to see if OP was honest in how big of a fuck he was
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>>53149669
>Please point out how obscene language is lewd
>Please point out how obscene language is indecent
Ok.
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>>53149697
> actually removed your tripcode for attention whoring
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>>53149669
> cussing out a prof
> not indecent

Get the fuck out of here, I think we've been had, friends. OP must be fucking trolling
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>>53149724
>attention whoring this hard
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>>53149684
Or I just wanted to have a different name besides anonymous
>>53149594
Censor the names if that is the case. But when you said a series of emails with profanity that makes me think you really pissed the prof off. I would have just capped the fact that the test wasnt up and set it to them. Also,
>blackboard
God bless
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>>53149724

That violates the 1st, again. They may define it such a way, but they cannot use it to punish you in the sense or my speech. Lewd is to define sexual misconduct, of course.

Indecent may be defined as such, but again, goes against my first admend, it is not meant to be defined that way.

If that's the case, subjectively, they could find a fat neck beard like you obscene to look at and expel you.
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>>53148856
OP as someone who has seen similar situations if you want to get back in for sure you can do things to make your situation better, including starting anger management therapy ASAP to show in good faith you're making sure such situation will not happen again.

In the end this is less about who is right and who is wrong and more importantly about you either getting back into school or at the very least not ending up with an expulsion on your record.
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>>53149726
Yeah im fucking up my posts, only tripping in here and not in the other threads im going through, trip ended up in BBG yet not here.
>>53149740
I've seen some shit on /r9k/ that makes me think some people here don't understand the gravity of their actions
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>>53149768

I sent two emails to two separate professors, one said " how the fuck..." and the other was a screen shot of the problem that i labled "this bullshit here.jpg" literally.
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>>53149545
Friendly reminder
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>>53149780
At this point suck the deans fucking dick and kiss up to the prof. Who cares if they are fuqq bois and cant handle a few cuss words just don't get fucked academically.
>>53149796
How did the jpg show up? Was the image broken?
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>>53149818

The screen shot was of an actual screen cap of black board, the name of the image was "this bullshit here.jpg"
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>>53149796
Man, your profs aren't the fucking idiots on this board. You can't just drop the profanity for no reason. It's seen as rude by human beings you troglodyte. You can only swear with profs when you actually know them.

And even then, you can't use it to intensify some bullshit inquisition on your part. They don't give a shit, and they don't have to deal with you. This isn't about free speech, it's about being a decent human. Which is part of what you get marked on in uni.
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OP sounds like typical Millenial
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>>53149857
Oh well than that profs a chuckle fuck for crying over the word bullshit
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>>53149874

I am 30. Nice try.
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>>53149773
>That violates the 1st, again.
Then they should sue to have it removed from the rules.

As long as the rules state that the uni can expel you for cursing, and you sign an agreement to abide by the rules, then you should not be sending a series of documented profanities to your prof.

...look, we are humans, we get angry, we want to swear and curse. But how about a little bit of brains? Documenting yourself breaking the rules? Sending a series of emails with profanity to professors? You are giving them a reason to expel you with your rude behaviour, and you are ALSO giving them the evidence they need to expel you.
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>>53149888
Anyone born after 1980 is a millennial, retard.
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>>53149888
In age, but not in maturity.
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>>53148856
look on the bright side, you got more time to watch animes while you live the NEET life
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Post the actual emails or we'll just assume that you threatened them. You already gave the name of your school so you're already identifiable without the emails.
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>>53149888
>30
>thinks universities are state governments
>can't into Constitution
>can't into verbal harassment
>spergs when people tell him what he did was wrong
Wow mental age really is a thing
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>>53148951

Haha you literal autist. If your prof sent you an email like that, you'd lose your shit and sue and demand he lose his/her job. Enjoy being neet for the rest of your life fucking sperglord.
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>>53149052
You realize blackboard is a web application that schools use for taking tests or keeping scores stuff right?

You basically just said op should open the non existent email from the president stating he has control of all missiles.

It's not fucking possible.
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I'm pretty much only friends with fuck ups and freaks and none of us got kicked out of college. I've never even seen this happen to anybody in person. I didn't even think it happened.

This couldn't have nearly been the first time you've been fractious OP. I'm guessing this is at least the third.
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>>53150012
But he's rich, bitch!!!!!
OP is cool as shit!
He gets All The Girls!
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>>53150012

/bread
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>>53149155
Fuck you shitface falcons been here since you were born. Ever heard of falcons guide stupid fuck?
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>>53150033
Just watch this spot in 3 days time, when Rich OP will return triumphant!
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Daily reminder for dealing with normies (especially women).

They are VERY observant of social hierarchies, power differences (both real and imagined), etc. Basically if you're "lower" than them they will treat you like shit and expect you to suck dick. If they have any real power (this isn't a SJW shitfest, power means consequences), like being able to expel you (or not let you graduate despite meeting requirements), then you actually have to suck dick and you can expect huge consequences for hitting back.

BTW, even if you're in high school, 9/10 times a normie teacher will treat you exactly like this if you're not part of the cool kids. Yes, adults even care about school yard politics, its fucked up, I know. You'd expect adults to grow out of this 25 at the latest, but no, that would require real maturity and many, many years of acquiring wisdom and school teachers are rarely intellectually impressive: there's a reason they're teaching and not doing.

In short, normies are generally horrible and incapable of treating people impartially. Don't give them reason to and you'll be fine.

Sage for non tech
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>>53150012

I'd think hes cool as fuck and invite him over for beer and light skinned black bitches I met on pof.

>>53150033

Not all, most, bruh.

>>53150056
I am pretty sure I will return to class, way behind. And I'll end up failing per grade, not expulsion.

>>53150090

Welp.
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>>53150107
Dude you aren't going back. they've made a ruling. They aren't going to go back on it. I don't even think threatening a lawsuit, even a legitimate one, which you don't have, will change their position.

Where their any threats you happened to make in these emails?
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>>53149594
>Yes they do. Free speech. Progressives/libfags/dems can't take someone being mean to them.
Jesus christ do you realize how retarded you sound? Freedom of speech protects you from legal prosecution for holding and stating opinions (in particular it says there can't be federal, state, or municipal laws which restrict expression). Getting kicked out of a university, whether state run or not, is not fucking prohibited by the first amendment you moron. The DMV is allowed to kick you out for whatever reason they want (as long as it doesn't violate the 14th and friends), including not liking the dumb shit you say.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tinker_v._Des_Moines_Independent_Community_School_District
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>>53148856
i highly doubt you were expelled for saying fuck in an email

what did you really do op
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>>53150440
This. If it actually was for that I'm guessing that this isn't you're first offense and that you've been warned.
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>>53150040

Yeah, I've seen his shill list where he shills shit
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>>53148951
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the repercussions of your speech.
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>>53150372
because that's totally the same thing as being a dick to your professors
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Blackboard is one word.
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>>53150372
from the article:
"Tinker remains a viable and frequently-cited Court precedent, though subsequent Court decisions have determined limitations on the scope of student free speech rights. In Bethel School District v. Fraser, a 1986 case, the Supreme Court held that a high school student's sexual innuendo–laden speech during a student assembly was not constitutionally protected. Though Fraser applies the Tinker test of disruption to school decorum, if not undermining of educational mission, the effect is to make an exception to Tinker for "indecent" speech."

tl;dr: you're fucked, OP
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>>53148951
fucking kek

/v/ posters in a nutshell
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>>53148951
>BLACKBOARD test

nice to know you go to a meme university
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>>53148856
What's your major, out of curiosity?
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>>53149377
ahh two more tripfags added to the filter
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>>53150636

Pre-med, bruh.
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>>53151163
Female doctor, or faggy plebian foreign professor!

Bet it!
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>>53148951
Please be real
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>>53148951
OP is a raging autist, but Blackboard is also a raging piece of shit. School confirmed as an ITT Tech tier hellhole.
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10/10 thread, I got halfway through before I realized OP was making it all up

Very convincing imitation of a retard
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>>53150509
Underrated post.
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