Should i get gtx 970 despite the 3.5gb problem?
>inb4 wait for pascal
i live in a shit country where we'll probably get pascal year later
>>53099288
What country?
Get a 390
>>53099320
Poland
My psu won't handle 390 (CM G550M) since im going to overlock the card
>970
>>53099288
Copy paste inbound:
On the topic of the 970;
3.5 does exist. It is there. We can measure it, the impact it has on performance, and when it triggers.
That being said. It IS still a fantastic GPU for gaming at 1080p, performance is solid so long as you don't go silly with mods or higher resolutions, something that will push vRAM usage higher, and ultimately end up with stuttering.
How long the 970 will be good for 1080p gaming is the main question. As of these next few months we will have new generations of GPUs equipped with HBM2, meaning higher amounts of vRAM. That vRAM being there is just shouting to Game Developers "Hey, look at me!, you don't need to optimise anymore!" and very quickly we could see the 970 become a very poor GPU.
That is one scenario. Should developers continue with this pattern of "Ok, I'll do SOME optimisations here", then the 970 will hold up to the test of time a little better.
All that being how it is, or how it may turn it. The 970 WILL age poorly. Even compared to past nVidia GPUs. The vRAM and general on-going optimisations we see for AMD GPUs, the 290/290x/390/390x especially will age well.
Hell, look at the 7970, that thing is beating out 780ti's at this point thanks to driver optimisations made possible by it being GCN, which means that AMD's driver team can easily alter drivers and send them back.
nVidia's drivers as a whole are solid. Just avoid GameReady drivers, they always cause more issues than they fix. nVidia will churn out a really solid driver once every 3 months or so. But never be the first to install a driver, wait and see how the forums react for a week after the release of a driver.
Neither is better than the other when it comes to drivers. If you were to compare each release and the problems both bring to the table or resolve. Then you would soon realise this.
Copy Pasta end.
I'm still on a 780ti with 'only' 3GB.
It runs pretty much all new games perfectly on 1440p.
Even supposed memory hogs like shadow of mordor
>>53099349
Yeah... Still get a 390.
>>53099614
The dude is worried about power limitations. You provide an image that shows his worries are legit. You still suggest he disregard his legit worry?
>>53099672
If his PSU is the worse from the bunch in the product line, he's still going to have 100 watts leftover.
Good 550 W PSU can handle every system configuration that don't have SLI/Crossfire
>>53099744
550 watts @ typical 80% efficiency is 440 watts.
You don't calculate your load to run at 100% efficiency.
>>53099288
Are you really this retarded? It is a known gimped card yet you still want to give money to nvidia? What kind of cuck are you?
Truly the way you're meant to be played, gaymers are such retards
If i already have a r9 280. would overclocked 970 still take less power than it?
>>53099288
970 is a great card.
Don't listen to the ATI extremists in this thread.
>>53099840
Yeah. but what will happen if i go over that 3.5gb vram in games?
>>53099420
>AMD
>driver optimisations
970 will be still a good card for next 2-3 years
Is 980 better?
>>53099809
WTF are you going on about?
I don't think you understand how the ratings work, or mean.
>>53100106
It's good but way too expensive. I got one for slightly less than a 970 on black friday.
It doesn't suffer from the 3.5 issue and has slightly better performance, but it's expensive. The 980ti is a much better value for money.
>>53099864
The game crashes. What fucking game uses 3.5gb VRAM anyways?
inb4 5k180fps or some dumb shit
>>53100157
GTA V, Shadow of Mordor. Probably most of the games in next year
>>53100157
Modern games released the last year.
Just take 390 since it has better dx12 support and don't suffer the "MUH 4GB" problem
the performance between these gpus aren't that much big
and if you keep the stock clocks you will be able to run this on 550w PSU
>>53099288
get a 390
don't allow Huang to meme your ass
>>53099672
Making your whole computer suck because you wanted to not get a new PSU is a crappy reason to save money
>>53099814
this is why nvidia has all the market share
retarded kids who buy 970's to go with their i7's
they don't know an i5 and a 390/980 is the way to go by far.
>>53099288
>not posting the better version
Okay, let's make this like that
Here's my speccy
would my PSU actually handle the 390? and if yes, which brand should i get (just please, no sapphire - i have a really bad experience with this)
>>53099288
>gb
>>53099864
>gb
gram barn?
>>53099809
>550 watts @ typical 80% efficiency is 440 watts.
Neo /g/ everyone...
80% efficiency means that the psu will pull 688W from the wall to provide the PC with 550W.
A 550W psu can handle a 390 easy.
>>53100523
>>53099288
I never found out what movie or series that is from.
>>53099809
you are mistaking efficiency with capacitor fatigue
>r9 390
>not r9 290
it's literally the same card but with less vram
>>53100580
barely
don't even think about OC
>>53100580
It will run the 390 just fine.
The 390 can't be OC'd that much anyways.
AFAIK AMD poalris will debut in next 3 months
can't you really wait?
It's a higher oc'd one with more vram, so why should he get the 290?
Can you somehow just disable the remaining 0.5 gb on gtx 970?
>>53101347
Why in the fuck would you do that?
>>53101377
to not accidently get over 3.5gb?
>>53101120
Oh boy can't wait for another rebrands
>>53101421
>HBM cards
>rebrands
>>53101421
>Node shrink
>New architecture
>HBM2
>H B M 2
>2
>2
:DDDDD EBIN MEEM :DDDDD
>>53101438
>>53101502
In your dreams maybe. Get ready for another 28nm rebrands
>>53101536
>already confirmed 14nm
>HURR DURR 28NM REBRANDS
retardation: the post
>>53099288
We know the 3.5 meme crashes games, but the question is, how will it impact a rendering going on? Will it crash or just run uber slow?
>>53099288
>I live in a shit country
>should I get this useless shit
>>53099809
550 at 80% efficiency is 550/0.8=687.5 watts
>>53099288
its a good card.
>>53099320
lol enjoy your:
no gameworks
no nvenc
no physx
no 3d
:^)
>>53101903
It will run slow.
>>53099809
Jesus you're thick.
>>53100459
>and a 390/980 is the way to go by far.
so most of their games will have less effects, no physx? go full cuck to support another megacorporation? kek
>>53099911
>They
>do
>>53102141
And why the fuck should I care about that?
>>53102208
Useless gimmicks don't make a decent card senpai.
>>53102208
>PhysX
>Important
>>53099349
>Poland
>>53102281
>>53102297
>>53102324
Why do you guys even buy a good video card?
To play 4K animu? and shitpost? or what?
>>53102665
The only game in which PhysX even has a half-assed implementation is Borderlands. It's hardly a selling point. As are the hundreds of different "nVidia exlcusive" AA variations.
You base your purchase on the best performing product available in your price range. Only a fool considers manufacturer lock-ins to be a selling point of anything.
Also.
>go full cuck
>when trying to convince someone to get a 970 over a 390
Pretty transparent efforts there anon.
>>53102768
But Poland is not so cold, you don't need an additional room heater. Let alone the power consumption, holy shit, power actually costs a lot here in Europe.
But, back to the main point. You really think that if you sacrifice a few features and buy an AMD card, that will somehow help AMD to come back?
You really believe that?
>doing shitty i7 and 970 builds
>not getting an i5 and 980ti for superior performance all around
>>53102950
Hard poland here
you would have to work 2 months to earn enough cash to buy a 980ti and still you wouldn't have a money for bills and food
>>53099864
Nothing.
It's impsosible to go over 3,5gb now
>>53103004
his i5 thing still makes sense.
never understood why retarded "gamers" and kids throw money out on i7 builds.
>>53102141
3d is a meme. It's proven, so quit your shite
>>53099864
The game's will stutter extremely hard
Grow a pair and stop buying products that are not as advertised.
Probably you do not even need a new GPU at this point.
![power-draw-bioshock-100594260-large[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/pSInM7U.png "power-draw-bioshock-100594260-large[1].png")
>>53102859
I'm well aware of the cost of power in Europe. I live in the UK.
Do you honestly think or even for a moment, loosely believe that running a GPU for maybe an hour or 2 while playing a game will make your room into a furnace? Is this the grip that you have on reality?
Unless you run the GPU at 100% load, 24/7, the power consumption is negligible, in the end, the difference is that of a lightbulb being left on. And with AMD, you have access to FRTC, so you can lock your fps at perfectly playable limits, and the GPU won't push itself harder to go above that. Like 55fps vs 60fps. No difference in visuals, but noticeable reduction in power draw.
Hell, look at pick related. 55 fps, vs 75fps, vs FRTC disabled.
>>53102859
>But, back to the main point. You really think that if you sacrifice a few features and buy an AMD card, that will somehow help AMD to come back?
I don't recall that being the main point.
I think you're the first person to actually say that some SHOULD buy an AMD card, just to help them out financially.
But no. What I believe, is that you should avoid pointless, and countless AA variations, that all do exactly the same thing, but are marketted as "benefits" none the less.
I do believe that if you have the opportunity to get a GPU that is not faulty by design, and performs better anyway, you should.
I do believe that you should buy a GPU that is not likely to get gimped by the manufacturer in 7 months because they want their new line to sell well.
That is what I believe, and god damn it is the trust of the situation and you well know it.
>>53103105
My gpu is broken
>>53103047
Because it's a bigger number, and those are better
rite?
amirite?
guys?
>>53103143
yea i7's are better but the cost doesn't warrant the need
>>53103101
For you.
>>53103128
If gpu is not available in Poland, then buy from Germany.
Buy Sapphire Nitro R9 380 or 390, both of which offer best bang for the buck at this moment. Or if you can find a good deal, R9 Nano (vendor doesnt matter: they all use reference design).
>>53099809
Are you fucking retarded
>>53103180
>>53103180
>sapphire
had 2, both were on RMA 3 times
>>53102048
Are you retarded? You multiply by 0,8, not divide.
550x0,8=440
>>53103180
Oh yeah, sorry, i didnt read about your PSU.
To be brutally honest, i would never put that in any of my systems. Then again, i have used nothing but top-end Seasonics for the last 18 years or so.
Either way, dont buy product that is not as advertised and GTX970 is that. GTX980 on the other hand is a good card, but massively overpriced (of course, if you can find sub-400€ deal, then go for it) I have personally used Nvidia cards for one reason only and that is their linux/bsd binary blob. Now that decent open-source Ati/AMD drivers are reality, i will never buy Nvidia card again.
>>53103287
Must be insanely bad luck, because Sapphire used to have the best custom PCB and VRM designs on Ati cards and they still have those on these new AMD cards. Those Nitro cards have very good VRM setup and good quality caps.
>>53103164
I was being facetious.
>>53099288
of course, it's still a great card
>>53102141
>no gameworks
>no nvenc
>no physx
>no 3d
Sounds like heaven.
Which GTX 970 Should i buy?
>>53103121
>Gtx's are being gimped
>This is what AMD fanboys believe
>>53102208
how are you enjoying physx in fallout 4 now that it's caused AMD cards to take the lead in performance? also hows witcher 3 running with physx enabled? what, it runs like shit even with an nvidia GPU??? should have bought 2 of them poorfag haha.
>>53100580
>(just please, no sapphire - i have a really bad experience with this)
Really? I found the opposite true in my experience. I've only had good luck with their cards and AMD even uses them as an OEM for their workstation gear.
>>53103293
No moron, efficiency is how well your PSU translates what it pulls from the wall into power your components can use, numbnuts.
>>53103293
>being this retarded
>>53106579
>buy $60 game
>some special effects and features aren't available to you because you don't own an Nvidia card
You amd users are straight up cucks.
>>53107455
"Flawless"
I seem to recall the Evolve Game Ready driving giving people with GTX 980's (Me included) <10fps on lowest settings, and making the game crash every 5 minutes, and only launch 1 in 20 times..
Then the GTA V driver fucking up performance in Hardline.
Nvidia only churn out a solid driver once every 3 or so months, everything in between is to keep the sheep happy.
>>53099809
AHAHAHAHAHA
Back to /v/, bucko.
>>53107455
Windows 10 was my favourite game of 2015.
