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Why do Linux users get so ass blasted whenever gaming comes up?
because they were too retarded to figure out PCI passthrough
Because they are mad that their OS is so irrelevant it doesn't even get fucking video games lmao
>>53092118
~1000ish of the ~4000ish games on steam work on Linux. The market share of actual users is tiny though.
>>53092118
ok kid
>>53092082
Linux is not ready for games, and games are not ready for Linux. But at some point people will grow tired of Microsoft and SteamOS will become a valid gaming platform. Linux's OS market share will only grow from now on.
inb4 GNU\Linux-libre
>>53092135
That ~1000 that have been ported run noticeably shittier than they do on Windows. That might have something to do with it too.
>>53092082
They're like macfags. If their OS can't do it, anyone who wants to do it is somehow inferior.
>>53092135
>tfw I keep hearing this
>tfw I open up Steam on Linux
>tfw only 10% of the games I have on my account show up
and they aren't even any of the games I actually play regularly
fuck, gaming is a good third of third of the reason I boot Windows primarily
the others are driver support (mostly higher performance, eg video, and wifi drops out less under Windows) and shit that doesn't work/runs badly in Wine
most of the shit I do in Windows, I could do on Linux (a large part in thanks to Wine, even used to regularly use Photoshop CS5 in Wine since it works just fine if you can skip the installer), a bunch of the programs I use day-to-day are FOSS ones that are mainly developed on Linux or have good Linux ports
there's a few non game programs I can't reasonably run in Wine, such as Renoise (and I'd run it in Wine for Windows VSTi support, since there's a perfectly fine native Linux version other than the fact I can't use my synths) since it has hilariously awful audio latency and occasional crashing, same with Famitracker
inb4 >>>/v/ and all that shit
>>53092295
>dual booting when pci passthrough exists
>>53092082
Because it's the first thing Window's users bring up when they cry and moan to keep their shitty proprietary os.
>>53092236
Except GNU/Linux is under GPL. Nice try tho.
>>53092341
>They won't switch to my preferred OS because it breaks what they primarily do with their computers
I see no reason to be upset.
>>53092295
>a bunch of the programs I use day-to-day are FOSS ones that are mainly developed on Linux or have good Linux ports
I'm in the same boat. Almost every program I use is open source or cross-platform. Lack of mainstream games (most of those linux-compat games are indie crud) and generally shitty UI keeps me on Windows.
>>53092359
What the hell does licensing have to do with my post? Is "under GPL" like a default answer for you neckbeards?
GPL is shit btw.
>>53092387
I use lots of Windows ports for individual FOSS programs regularly and they work great. They just cant seem to get their shit together enough to write a desktop OS that isn't a pain in the ass.
>>53092386
Sounding like a /r/pcmasterrace pen flipping Intel shilling Microsoft cum guzzling fuck boy there. Do you even know how to use a CLI son? Your needs are for butthole toy play. My needs are for crafting your butthole toys.
muh gaming
>>53092468
I CLI'd your mom last night.
>>53092427
Ubuntu is a good step forward for a desktop OS. Last time I used Unity I was fairly impressed with it. Only thing that sucks is that it's dependent on OpenGL because it's basically a huge Compiz plugin, so you can't run it on toasters
>>53092408
Kid, in the money making world licensing cost and rights matter more then " le'windows server 2012 master race".
>>53092497
>using compiz in 2016
Brave soul you are.
>>53092501
Sometimes it's cheaper to pay the nominal licensing fee than it is to hire someone to maintain unsupported free software. Free software is free as in free puppy.
>>53092082
because linux is usually 15-25% slower than windows (even 10). audio tends to lag horribly, this is why valve hasn't made a big move yet.
>>53092082
I don't, the only gaymes I play run perfectly fine on GAHNOO/Loonix.
>>53092497
Binary distros with scripted installers are a fucking mess unless you have one of the two supported hardware configurations.
>>53092102
underrated
>>53092496
Again, I bet you don't even know what the nt-kernel does on your cuck box. Illiterate /r/pcmasterrace 16y/o. Go back to making batch scripts and calling yourself "tech savvy".
>>53092580
Just like you read the Linux source code cover to cover and know exactly what everything does. Go back to your parents basement and sweat on your mechanical keyboard while you recompile Xorg for the 4th time.
>>53092537
No it's not cheaper. Do you know how much it cost to license a 2000 node virtualized windows server cluster? Linux owns the server market for good reason. The only reason computers come stock with windows is because Microsoft head locks manufacturers in agreements to get "certified hardware". Linux owns the computing space with android, servers, and growing with chromebooks.
>>53092622
>I'm 24 and still live at home.
>>53092615
Have fun managing 3k virtualized windows boxes submitting 600 bug reports praying a system patch is released for your broken parallel system calls while your boss stresses out at the "Access database system being down" and hoping through all of it you get to keep your job.
>>53092680
>Have fun managing 3k virtualized windows boxes
This is actually pretty easy with the tools that come with Windows. To manage that many Linux boxes you need expensive third party solutions like puppet.
>submitting 600 bug reports praying a system patch is released for your broken parallel system calls
You're a fucking retard
>"Access database system being down"
Are you trying to make a jab at MSSQL?
>>53092729
I can't actually believe you are arguing for Windows Server 20XX+. You should feel dirty for this post.
>>53092751
In some situations it's a better fit. If I was running a web hosting farm it would be Linux no argument there. If I need a file server for 1000 Windows workstations I'll pay $400 for a Windows license and be done with it. You do not want to deal with samba when it fucks up.
>>53092082
Because over a decade ago now the PC gaming industry was faced with a choice. Sell out and give a console maker the power to restrict the PC, or go with the more difficult choice of attempting to build the PC into a gaming platform with no rival. They chose to throw in with the consoles and we've been dealing with the fallout of that ever since with users not able to access the full power of their hardware unless they happen to use one version of one OS.
Now we find ourselves at the same crossroads and if game companies make the wrong choice this time it could be the death of the PC as we know it. The alternative to giving a console maker the power to kill the PC is harder and more painful, but if we want PCs to survive in a recognizable form it needs to be done.
I miss the Bungie that made games other than Halo, and released them for Linux PCs rather than consoles.
>>53092787
Pretty accurate. Windows server is good for gaymen and Windows-compatible file shares. Anything else though, Linux.
>>53092839
>Anything else though, Linux.
Active Directory.
>>53092852
that too. Basically anything related to managing Windows machines is for Windows
>>53092787
*flashbacks from 2001 with visions of RAM disks, SCSI spi3 backplanes, and constant drive failures and faults in database SAN from ms-sql*
>>53092852
>Active Directory...
is a meme with Windows 8 and Windows 10 clients.
It all about zipping all your files into the heap called cloud.
Because playing video games is for stupid fucking manchildren.
>playing video games past the age of 5
Kill yourself.
>>53092964
You can just sense the bait
It's the fox and the grapes
>>53092964
Kek, define manchild please
>>53093062
Stupid fucking Winfags who give up freedom to play VIDYA GAMES
>>53093119
So 30 year olds who are My Little Pony fans who use Linux and don't play games aren't manchildren. Got it.
>>53092964
Playing with Linux shit is just a big dumb video game with no graphics
Most PC games nowadays are complete and utter shit anyway.
I have way more fun playing retro games. Incidentally, RetroArch rocks in Linux.
>>53092964
>>53092143
As soon as SteamOS has any popularity, it will be replaced by a better gaming centric Distro. And then yotld.
>>53092824
What in zeus's butthole are you talking about?
What actually happened is that OpenGL was actually superior to Direct3D for a while but then Khronos fucked up and did a lot of bad movies and now everyone uses DirectX and all the cards focus on DirectX performance drivers.
>>53094688
That doesn't say anything about the number of gamers in the total population, nor the genre of games.
For all I know, a gamer is someone who plays snake on their phone.
>>53094688
>75% of people who play video games are manchildren
nice job proving his point
>>53093269
True af. Except you can actually make money when you git gud.
Because gaming is the only thing Windows does better than Linux... actually Gaming is the only thing Windows does right and that's omly because the devs are used to the platform, not because it's inherently better.
>>53092622
No, how much does it cost?
why so buttmad you linux ants?
>>53094846
You can make even more money by playing shitty mobas.
>>53092959
Windows 8 and Windows 10 can participate in an AD domain in the same exact way Windows 7 and earlier does.
>>53094846
>True af. Except you can actually make money when you git gud.
He thinks typing ls in a console to look l33t for his friends will make him money someday
>>53095123
>what is systems administration
>>53095103
>tfw wasn't raised in South Korea
>tfw no monolid and a capable driver
Sadly that's an unachievable dream for most.
>>53095123
>what is dc tech
>what is sysadmin
>>53092387
>generally shitty ui
Install a decent DE and a theme, congrats, your ui now looks better than windows.
>>53095369
Even with themes they always look "off". Like they didn't have a lead designer to nitpick certain details. The padding on elements will be inconsistent, or the size of an icon is disproportionate to the rest of the UI.
I'm actually gunna install Ubuntu in Hyper-V right now and compare Unity to others. My coworker is recommending Xfce. I've used it before, look OK, not amazing, but the UI proportions were rarely out of whack so I guess I can theme it.
>>53092082
Well, I don't, because I don't play games anymore.
>>53092679
>I'm 24 and still live in a cardboard box.
>>53092679
>I'm 24 and work at McDonald's
XP fag here
I don't game because I can't.
>>53095826
I recommend you to try xfce 4.12 with numix icons and arc-dark theme. Gtk makes things consistent.
>>53095826
Inconsistent you say?
>>53096469
That seems like a functional design choice. Save space when it's full screen, make then easily clicked when it's windowed. Pic related is more what I mean
>>53092082
Adults dont play video games
I think its disgusting that the winbabies are bringing their lame VIDYA XDDDD over, at least they have the containment distro of debian
>>53092135
And 99% of these games are either indie trash/scam access or just smartphone ports.
>>53096661
>KDE
>Manjaro
no wonder. i usually don't post this on /g/ but fuck it.
>>53096699
>at least they have the containment distro of debian
what? most gamers on GNU/Linux use arch because of the bleeding edge drivers.
>>53096661
NIgger, white window borders mean window is not focused. You can resize the bottom panel exactly how much you feel like, unlike wingblows, which requires a fucking restart to change UI fonts.
>>53096699
My grandma plays video games, I do not. Adults don't give a fuck about what you do if it doesn't actually affect them. Whining bitches get offended about what you do even if it doesn't affect them. You use "logic" like a sjw does, you need to fix that.
>>53096909
Also, you can change almost everything in distros
>Using DEs at all
Fucking disgusting
>>53096938
I'd rather not spend days tweaking the UI when I could install a normal UI
>>53096909
nigger I'm talking about the shitass spacing between the icons, not the borders. Also I use 7 Taskbar Tweaker so the taskbar right clicks are the same as explorer. 1 program, 20 seconds of configuring does all the tweaking I want for Windows. Desktop/tray/explorer right clicks are consistent enough which are the ones I use.
Yeah later versions of Windows are a clusterfuck because there are remnants from Classic theme days and from Vista/7 but those are all the menus that I rarely use so I don't really care.
>>53097011
>Implying a WM is not already a part of your DE
>>53096874
Much better but this is the kind of little nitpick padding stuff I'm talking about
Why are so many fagtards obsessed with gaymen on Linux? People don't complain about sports cars being useless offroad either.
To play games: Win10/Console
Actually doing things: Linux(/Win7 for things that demand Win)
Being braindead/retarded/gay/design-fag: Mac
>>53097109
Do you want literallly no spaces between icons you dumb fuck?
>>53097118
Because people tend to only have 1 desktop and 1 OS. Dual booting usually ends up with one of the OSes getting ignore for the majority of the time. One OS can do it all if it doesn't suck.
>>53097138
No you goon I want consistent spacing
>>53097163
Yeah right. Back to >>53096469
>>53097154
then there is no OS that doesn't suck.
>>53097177
>What is Gentoo
>>53096429
>>53096166
just wow
>>53092679
he's right
>>53092622
>>53092537
>>53092501
>>53092408
>>53092359
>that whole discussion
how about you read >>53092236 again?
how the fuck has it anything to do with the fucking licensing fucking christ
>>53097172
and like I said before, it's a functional choice that they specifically added for usability. I rarely use those controls so I don't really care, I use the top bar and dragging. The spacing in Linux DEs is usually an overlooked aspect and doesn't serve any purpose.
>>53097199
>Inconsistant UI spacing/colors in windows is functional
>Inconsistant UI spacing in Linux DE is not okay
Sure, whatever you say
>>53092082
At this moment GPU manufacturers and gatekeepers of the low level libraries and drivers to make those GPUs do things are not interested in open collaboration and have lagged behind the rest of the computer tech industry in that regard. I don't think that is going to change very soon, but it is getting mildly better. Microsoft has no interest at this time in licensing DirectX to anyone for use on anything but their own operating systems and devices. It is a really good API. OpenGL is a bit long in the tooth, GLES with proprietary extensions is growing ever popular, particularly with the PS3/PS4, nintendo does their own totally proprietary thing. Will Vulkan fix it? Maybe a little but not really. Microsoft is changing a lot though, it wouldn't shock me to see an open sourced windows on the horizon that starts behaving a lot more unixy with each release.
>>53097222
I'm not even trying to complain about functionality, I'm complaining about the looks. I've never noticed the navigation buttons changing size. I've always noticed mis-spacing on linux DEs. It looks "off". That was my point at the beginning.
>>53092082
i upgraded from 7 to 10 just now and my 980 ti idle temp went down by 15 and by 25 while under load (witcer 3 ultra settings)
also had a fps increase (it doesnt drop below 60 for split seconds anymore)
is windows 10 being bad a meme? also how can windows 10 make my gpu cooler
>>53097577
you upgraded your drivers and your kernel, of course it will change something. read microsofts privacy statement to understand.
oh and it's unstable.
>>53097577
Windows 10 will automatically update drivers. This has actually fucked me and some of my friends. It upgraded my laptop to some unstable version of the Intel graphics driver, "upgraded" to the garbage trackpad driver that I had intentionally replaced, and wiped a sound card setting that I specifically set to fix a bug in the driver.
And plenty of people have been bitching about privacy.
>>53094722
> but then Khronos fucked up
The reason for that is that Microsoft used their influence on Khronos to derail Longs Peak.
>What in zeus's butthole are you talking about?
I know it was before you were born Anon, but in the late 90s / early 00s we had a first wave of games on Linux from companies like Id, Epic, and Bungie. When Microsoft released the Xbox they paid off all of those devs to drop Linux support and go console-first. That led directly to the dark age of PC gaming that we're only now coming out of.
>>53097154
Well, I got loads of devices. One Linux/Win7 dualboot laptop, one Linux 2in1, one win7 laptop, a small Linux home Server, two old Desktops with XP, one win10 desktop in the making for gaymen.
When I want to do something which I don't already have device for I simply pick hardware and an OS that does the job best for me.
>>53092082
VULKAN.
>>53092082
>>53092118
>>53092236
>>53093016
>>53093141
>>53095085
/v/ and redditor gaymers are the cancer that is killing this board (yes, you).
You're tech illiterate, and no, building your epik gaystation does not count.
Why do you insist to come here? You clearly do not belong here as you know as much about tech as my grandma. Don't you have your shitty gaymes to play with other 12 year olds?
>>53092082
Because there are around two games for Linux and several thousand for Windows.
sooo is vulkan going to work just as good on linux as it will on windows?
or will linux get foiled by the jews again?
>>53101442
it could work better than on windows. wait a few months for benchmarks on phoronix.
>>53100655
Getting this upset over some inane shit over the internet, simply epic.
Is it possible to force vt-d to work on a 4670k? Also, what's the performance hit from the vm? It's got to be pretty substantial.
>>53100655
Actually i think discussions about gpu's are far more "technology" related than ricing your Wm and other limux autism.
>>53092082
Look mom, I posted it again!!!! xDDD
