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Did I fall for the meme?
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Did I fall for the meme?
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>>53083512
>debian
Yep.
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>>53083512
>Did I fall for the meme?
Nope
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>>53083512
>adwaita-icon-theme
yes
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>>53083512
The guy that made it considered suicide, and actually ended his life, what do you think?
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>>53083530
I still have time to change
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>>53083512
Yes! Don't do it! Install anything else! Debian fucking sucks
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>>53083547
No, this is your life now.
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>>53083512
Depends,

If you are experienced with Linux then no
If you have no idea what you're doing then yes
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>>53083567
Well fuck. Do I wait for it to finish before going to something more pleb tier?
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>>53083580
Oh wait I can't really get a new iso on my USB without botnet10 and that's gone for good
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>>53083512
remove debian
install gentoo
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>>53083580
You may as well try it out. You've gone this far.
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Also which DE should I have picked? I picked gnome because that's what Mr Robot uses
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>>53083627
Im still a babby Linux pleb so I need a GooEy
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>>53083608
Use dd dummy
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>>53083633
You're so pleb it hurts
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RIP Ian
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>old software

Debian's repos are dangerous desu
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>>53083512
Debian with Cinnamon master race! it runs on my laptop
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>>53083712
At least I'm not a millennial in denial
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>>53083720
This.
Debian repos still have uTorrent 1.8.2.
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The general impression I'm getting is that I indeed fell for the meme.
Would mint be an improvement?
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>>53083748

They backport security patches.
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>>53083819
>Would mint be an improvement?
Yes. Using Mint means that you are a stable person with better things to do.
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>>53083857
Thanks, I picked debian to start because the icon looked a bit cooler. But I guess I'll give mint a shot when it's finished
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>>53083720
You must be new.
https://www.debian.org/security/
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>>53083882
try xubuntu, fuck mint
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yo i got it installed, seems aight
i had to install chrome so i can get 4chan x
for some reason captcha was fucking up on iceweasel
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>>53084645
>Chrome
Why the fuck would you install Chrome when Chromium is in the repositories?
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>>53084698
well how the fuck was i supposed to know that the default looked like it was iceweasel
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>>53084645
>>53084711
I believe you misdiagnosed the root cause of the problem. Iceweasel and Chromium botj support CAPTCHAs, but if you're still making rookie mistakes like these, stick to Ubuntu and come back when you're serious about running a serious operating system.
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>>53084813
hey cmon man, at least im trying
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>>53084839

People here are just fucking aspie dicks, unless your shit is filled with anime girls and retarded terminal based music players, most will just be fgts.
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>>53084884
some of you guys are cool
and i kind of like the aspies, they spice the place up
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>>53084839
There's no shame in admitting you're not ready for a more advanced operating system. Ubuntu has a large user base for a reason, because at the end of the day most people just want a (handholding) operating system that 'works'.

So again, I urge you to reconsider running Debian at this point. I think you'll find Ubuntu is much more user friendly.
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>>53084933
I have time to burn, this might even be a decent learning experience for me.
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>>53083512
No. Arch and Gentoo are memes. Debian is a good distro. Nice choice!
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>>53083512
its always good to try a different operating system, to make you aware that there is an operating system in existence at any one time
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>>53083512
just letting you know that these responses are all opinionated
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>>53084978

Getting really fed up with this shit, not OP btw, but I have gone between Fedora, Mint, OpenSuse, Ubuntu, Manjaro (loved the look btw) and have now settled on Debian running mate and can't see any advantage or much difference to it than Ubuntu Mate.

Why do people hate Arch other than the "lengthy" install process? That seems to be the only thing people have against it?

Genuine question, not baiting
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Recently switched from DeadIan to Qubes.
Good switch
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>>53085054
i hear there are some decent installers to make it easier, might give one a try soon
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>>53085074

Yeah I heard Architect is meant to be pretty good, so I'm looking at trying it. I like the idea of building 'my own' setup, instead of installing Debian etc, then removing so much shit I break it
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>>53084947
>decent learning experience
That it is, and I at least wish you good luck. I'll just leave this picture here and I'll be out of your hair.
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>>53085160
yeah ubuntu gets a lot of hate, kind of glad i went with debian now
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>>53085060
>DeadIan
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>>53085160
>people literally think they become Linux experts(TM) by using debian over ubuntu
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>>53085224
No, but I intend to get there after finishing my masters degree in CE.
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>>53085224

No but definitely helped my learn a bit more.

Think I may just jump straight in with Arch. Seems to me the people who hate on Arch just can't be fucked to set it up and that's hardly a reflection of the distro.
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>>53083512
>cameraphone

yep
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Is there a good reason to use Debian?

I mean. I like it, I really do, and I will always have fond feelings for it, but it just feels like it doesn't do anything special apart from being stable. Which as a desktop user, isn't that nice most of the time.

I just can't really find a reason to install it.
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>>53083512
Debian could be the best distro, if it had pacman, dnf or zypper instead of apt.
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>>53085537
That's where backports come in, mate. http://backports.debian.org/
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>>53085741
I mean. I could just use testing instead. Which is what I usually do when I run Debian. But that still doesn't really mean they have anything special going for it apart from stability.

Granted there is something to be liked about that as well. When I think of Linux I pretty much think of Debian. But as I said, I just can't really find a reason to install it.
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>>53085799
Never use a branch other than stable for production environments. You're using Debian for stability, not for recent packages. Either use backports, or use a different operating system entirely.
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>>53085842
I'm not using Debian.
Anyways, this comes back to the reason I made my post. Outside the stability. Debian doesn't really have anything especially interesting going for it.
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>>53085890
If stability isn't doing it for you, you're better off using a different operating system, and that's fine. There's a whole plethora of other distributions you can choose from which better fits your needs.
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>>53083512
Why would one even install debian instead of ubuntu for desktop usage?
I get that debian is gewd for stable server usage, but not a valid desktop distro imo
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>>53086007
Is there a decent Ubuntu alternative?

Something a bit more "power user" but still has some nice user friendliness to it.
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>>53086068
Maybe Fedora, but it's not as user friendly as ubuntu desu
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>>53086086
Well. No. But something in the mix of Ubuntu and Arch is kinda what I'm looking for.
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>>53086068
That doesnt make any sense. Maybe you mean lubuntu?
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>>53086007
The Debian stable repository is much more stable than Ubuntu (based on Debian unstable), or even their LTS branch (based on Debian testing).

It's true that most professionals value stability over more user friendliness and up to date packages on servers. Some people just feel the same way regarding their desktops.
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>>53086108
No. I mean Ubuntu without all the hand holding.

Well, some hand holding is nice, but I still want to actually learn some stuff. Ubuntu just werks out of the box so there's never an incentive to learn stuff when you use it.
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>>53086103
Manjaro Linux is a beginner friendly distribution of Arch, much like Ubuntu is for Debian.
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>>53086143
G E N T O O
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T
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O
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>>53086166
I've used arch for about a year now and I kinda want to try a new system.

>>53086175
I'm too afraid of that monster.
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>>53083882
>picked debian because the icon looked cooler
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>>53086186
Gentoo is not that hard if you know how to install Arch. It's nearly the same experience just with hours of compile time.
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It literally doesn't matter what you use as your first distro, OP. Anything is good as long as you learn. Maybe you'll be a bit influenced by the DE or the package manager or something, but all distros are equivalent in the eye of a newbie, pretty much.

Debian Sid or the latest version are as good as Ubuntu when it comes to learning. I guess you get a library that's a bit larger going for the latter, but again, IT DOESN'T MATTER when you're new. You won't care about a tenth of the packages anyway.
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>>53086211
About more than a tenth*
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>>53086186
I see. Then what about Fedora? Or, if you're looking for something more close to Ubuntu, try Linux Mint (try LMDE to have a more user friendly experience of Debian, other than Ubuntu).
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>>53086262
Yeah. I'm thinking of Fedora. It seems the most logical step.
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>>53086143
Arch or Gentoo.

Then after you install everything from scratch and learn a couple of new tricks you'll go back to Ubuntu because there's no point in running Arch long-term.
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>>53086296
As I said. Already running Arch and now I'm looking for something more simple. But still something a bit more involved than Ubuntu.
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>>53085160

this infogaphic claims debian has a small software library ?
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Install void linux
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>>53086007
It's nice to have a frozen set of packages that you *know* will not break. Predictability and certainty you can do your work without any hiccup.
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>>53086316
Debian
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GNU/Linux is never a meme.

Macs are memes.

Windows is pure stupidity.
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>>53086334

Void vs Manjaro?

I'm in the Debian boat at the moment, looking for the next step up, but not something that could potentially be life consuming for a beginner (Arch)
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>>53086398
Mac OS X is vastly superior to Linux though.
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>>53084839
you're doing fine man, just keep on keepin' on
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>>53085160
probably the most condescending image I've seen related to distros
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>>53086413
Only superior if you are mentally retarded.
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>>53086421

tech n9ne mu'fucka
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>>53086508
No, it's superior in all cases. It's not even up for debate, the superiority is too big.
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>>53083882
my sides
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>>53086323
Good point, that's bugging me as well.

>>53086451
You must be new on /g/.
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>>53086556
Okay, your time is up, patient 33427, time to back to your room and play with bits of paper!
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>>53085961
debian still isn't that stable.
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>>53083512
>he fell for the distro-other-than-gentoo meme!
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>>53083679
At least get ubuntu, it's much better than debian nowadays.
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>>53086353
I simply followed the bumblebee nvidia guide on debian's own website after installing, each time I try to run a program with my GPU, my laptop literally freezes and I have to do a hard reset. This is not a problem I have in linux mint, even though that has its own quirks. I've yet to find a distro that is as stable as windows on this laptop.
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>>53086834
Debian "stable" means that the set of packages doesn't change, i.e. it's stable. It doesn't mean 100% hardware compatibility and zero bugs, it just means what you have today is what you're going to have every day, frozen, until the next major version. If you find some hardware incompatibility obviously it's not the best choice for you.
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>>53086817

Can you elaborate on that opinion?

I went from Ubuntu to Debian and prefer it, less crap.
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>>53086773
Actually, it is.
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>>53086413
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>>53086817
>>53086923
>>53086316
>>53086186
why not ubuntu server then just install the packages/de/wm you want? It seems like a decent middle ground providing the larger and more updated repos that ubuntu has without the bloat that comes with unity
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>>53087089

If I were to go with that, would it not just be the same me installing Arch via Architect or similar and taking the same route? Is is Ubuntu more forgiving when it comes to things breaking entirely?
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>>53087152
If you look at it that way then every distribution is essentially the same.

I'm not really sure what your motivations are to install debian in the first place, I assume its either just to play around or you're looking for something more stable than a rolling release distro. My reasoning is you still get a debian based distro that is more user friendly [than debian] and more stable than arch without having to go full pleb, and it will be something new to play with. Ubuntu is definitely more forgiving when it comes to breaking things entirely than either of them
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>>53087665

My reasoning for Debian is that I thought it may further my learning in Linux, turns out I got a different distro running the same WM, DE and packages anyway.

Looks like I actually took a backwards step in going from Ubuntu to Debian then. I was under the impression that *buntu are down stream in terms of releases etc from Debian, hence my decision (wrongly?) to go "up a level".

Plus, I'm picky, if I dislike one thing about a distro I'll go to the next, I quite liked Fedora but can't remember why I switched. Which leads me back to the idea of 'building' my own distro as I like. Though it just sounds a headache when things break (and do, with Arch for example).

Thanks for the civilised reply senpai
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I respect debian an dlove the logo. but i'd rather just use ubuntu desu

xubuntu is always nice
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>>53086103
Antergos
:^)
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>>53087945

Is Antergos just Architect/Arch but more bloated?
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>>53086143
You can learn all of that stuff on Ubuntu, it's all about putting in a little effort to learn how to use a terminal effectively.

You should get a cheap $5/year VPS, and use ssh to manage it remotely. Build a website, get it up and running using nothing but a terminal. Read the man pages for every command that you use. You'll learn a lot that way.
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>>53084645
REMOVE BOTNET
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>>53087819
>Looks like I actually took a backwards step in going from Ubuntu to Debian then
Only if you're using debian stable.
Ubuntu defaults to that unity garbage which is only marginally less shit than GNOME 3.
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