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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size
X220 - 12.5", lightweight
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
I have a chipped both of my x220 bezel corners and cracked a lil bit of back cover, how could i fix it?
How much is a chink battery supposed to lose in capacity in a month before we can call it defective?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA42J3SU3205&cm_re=thinkpad_x220-_-9SIA42J3SU3205-_-Product
should i buy this
>>52973325
Buy new parts and be more careful. :^)
>>52973364
Roll of the dice. Try and find out if they use high quality cells inside.
>>52973416
Newegg = more expensive than other places
>>52973454
well, i mostly mean is this the best thinkpad in that screen range with the old style keyboard?
i'm not worried about price. just wanna *nix laptop alongside my macbook i already own.
>>52973454
>Try and find out if they use high quality cells inside.
I mean I bought one for my cheapo x201.
The battery lost like 5% capacity in 2 weeks. I want to know that if such a behaviour is normal.upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0gives me info on the vendor and model and so on, how to know if the cells are "quality" cells?
>>52973475
>just wanna *nix laptop alongside my macbook i already own
Spin up virtual machines.
>>52973496
Only way to know is to open up the battery pack unfortunately.
>2016
>not using Puredick® batteries
>>52973547
topkek. Thanks anyway.
I read some article about how batteries could be made with salmon sperm. It might interest you.
How are the battery lives on the T410 and the X201? I could get either of those for the same price.
x230 reporting in
>933 MHz
this shit triggers me everytime.
How can I unlock the XMP profile with 1066MHZ (2133MT/s) speeds?
My RAM is Kingston HyperX, so this should be possible.
just bought my first thinkpad, a x220. i cleaned the fan and applied new thermal paste, but it still rides at 60-65°C on idle. can anything be done?
>>52974428
Quit using linux.
Install Windows and set the iGPU profile on battery to power saving. Also what thermal paste?
>>52974722
i'm already on windows, where's the iGPU profile?
>>52973547
wow pure dick
they couldn't have thought of another name?
>>52975047
Why? I want one just because of the name.
"Powered by pure dick"
>>52975149
I kinda do too
Is the battery actually any good?
What do you do with loose hinges? My T420s has some play with it.
>normie falls for the chinkpad meme
>>52975149
>>52974151
That ram is working at 1866MHz.
How did I do?
>I just bought: Lenovo Thinkpad T420 - 14.0" Intel® Core™ 2.3GHz, 8GB RAM, 250GB Hard Drive, Windows 7 Professional
>I just bought: Mushkin Enhanced ECO2 2.5" 512GB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) MKNSSDEC512GB
$350
T61 4GB Core 2 Duo 2,6 GHz with Quadro NVS 140M for 100$ worth it?
>>52976702
>>52976726
No. It's 2016. You can do better.
>>52976735
This
X201 for 149€ worth it ? Other options is either x200 for 120€ or T410 for €.
>>52976758
>>52976735
My country is technology cancer. T400 with 2GB and core 2 duo costs like 130$ Usable T420 is 220$ minimum.
>>52976968
That sounds about right.
Thinking about getting a t450s. It has a single DIMM slot as well as 4GB of on board RAM.
Will I be able to upgrade to 20GB when prices for 16 GB DIMMs drop or are there conflicts with different sized memory modules?
http://www.kijiji.ca/v-laptops/oshawa-durham-region/top-end-thinkpad-t420-i7-2640m-4gram-500gbhdd-cam-dual-band-wifi/1140118162?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true
should I pull the trigger on this?
>>52976285
Haha, see, I'd totally buy that
>>52977224
Ask for BIOS photos.
Hey fellow /g/entoomen. Leap here. Got a thinkpad 600x id like to get ethernet or wireless to in linux. Putting debian on there so I can do some testing with perf for a class I am taking. Thinking of doing cpu power used vs cpu computing power for computers over the years using an example computer from every 5 years or so starting with this one. I need an ethernet or wifi (pref both) cardbus/pcmcia card that have no issues with linux driver wise. Any suggestions?
I can also upload more pictures if requested. Just reply to this comment =]
Sorry for any gramatical issues. Typing on my phone and I can't see what I have already typed.
fucking dog knocked over my T420 with soda. everything is fine but now it wont click when it shuts. the hooks on top wont move. any suggestions? it goes to sleep and all it just doesn't click shut at all. fucking dog
![gg-btn[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6jpLzgt.jpg "gg-btn[1].jpg")
>>52977479
>>52977556
now the left hook hole wont move or whatever. god damnit. i am ocd about thit like that too. and i wa sin the bathroom and i hear a bang. fucking thing.
>>52976637
It's not MHz you dumb nigger, it's MT/s.
Ram is working at 933MHz. I want it to work at 1066MHz.
>>52977025
So should i pull the trigger on T400 with 4GB DDR2 for 110$? Or should i look after DDR3 ones?
>>52977556
I just fixed it with a fucking w tip lol. i swear those things do wonders for hardware shit. i guess it got a tiny bit crooked or something. all fne now. :)
still mad at dog though
>>52978614
I meant Q-Tip
>>52978614
I get mad at my cats for ruining mouse mats, but you can't stay mad long. Fucking pets, they're too cute.
Opinion on the p50 or the newer line up in general?
How bad is the fhd display(p50) with srgb?
Is the touch pad as good as it once was?
Is it worth to get a pcie ssd over a sata?
Disregard price obviously.
>>52978884
>Is the touch pad as good as it once was?
Haha, good one!
>>52978943
Talking from experience or just jumping on the bandwagon?
Could not get my hands on one yet so I'm careful with this
![3UoUa8A[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Jlbb9Q1.jpg "3UoUa8A[1].jpg")
>>52978884
>touchpad buttons has middle click now
Even if the rest of it is shit I hope this trend continues. My boner is rock solid.
>>52977224
>>52977388
He responded with this.
Am I good to go?
>>52979898
Cool, not locked. Looks like you're solid.
>>52979898
>>52979925
You can still get into the BIOS if it is locked you know. You don't have to enter the password, you just can't change anything without the password.
>>52974428
how did you apply the thermal paste
>>52979898
>>52979950
Well in that case ask for other tabs. Specifically the Security tab.
Pretty good size guide.
I'm seriously thinking of getting a T7500 x61 + 4GB 800MT/s RAM + 2x1TB 9,5mm HDDs + WWAN + Atheros WiFi + 9cell battery + ultrabase with HDD caddy
I want to use it as a mobile server. It's going to replace my old HP Thin Client T610.
Thoughts?
>>52980130
it's gonna run Windows Server 2012R2.
The CPU is faster than my current AMD G-t56n.
And I know x61 can run mostly with fan off because the heatsink is good enough.
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core2+Duo+T7500+%40+2.20GHz
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+G-T56N
1300pts vs 800pts
>>52980184
>>52980130
Oh, and that CPU must handle encryption, since all HDDs will be encrypted with AES256.
>>52979185
There's no fucking reason to use the touch pad even if it's "good"
>>52980115
You forgot to make the X series look low res as fuck
You also forgot to draw the W series as a landwhale
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>>52980698
Honestly, for the X-series it's perfectly fine, but having it on anything bigger than 12" is retarded
>>52974953
Type this in command prompt
RMDIR /S /Q C:\Windows\System32
>>52980698
I feel that's acceptable to buy used X220 and X230's with 1366x768 and be content with it.
But if you're buying a new laptop there's no reason to choose that resolution.
>>52977417
Nigger.
>>52980781
>having it on anything bigger than 12" is retarded
>X220 > is 12.5"
>for the X-series it's perfectly fine
>>52977602
Yes, if you can't afford to spend more and you live in India/Africa.
>>52980788
Oh you..
>>52980835
Are you really that stupid?
>>52980888
did i trigger your inner autism
>>52980945
The irony is rich.
>>52980369
>>52980184
>>52980130
forget my autistic question.
I'll get p8600 x200 instead. For some reason it's much cheaper than x61.
>>52980990
The only thing that is rich is the concentration of refugee cum inside of your mother
>>52980945
You sure did.
Daily reminder that anything older than T430, x230, etc, Is deprecated.
t420 and x220 should be taken out of the sticky, as they are 5 years old and not up to standards anymore.
>>52981023
define your "standards"
>>52981023
My portable typewriter works just fine with a Core2Duo, thank you very much.
>>52981023
What makes the _30 so much less deprecated than the _20 series? It's just an intel gen further, which is like maybe 5-10% more performance
>>52973259
anyone have a link to a whitelisted x201 bios?
>>52981509
he's obviously shitposting, but first gen Core-i to second gen, sandy bridge, was a large performance jump and power efficiency jump. However, Sandy to Ivy bridge was not as significant.
so, I really don't know
>>52981509
not him, but hd4000 is like twice as fast as hd 3000. and with ivy bridge you can actually get browse the web at solid 60 fps on very low power settings
>>52981509
Not him but USB3.0 is a bit of a big deal, only the x220 and t420s had one out of the _20 series
There are USB3 expresscards but they have to be plugged into a regular USB jack for power which is a bit unwieldy
>>52981614
What if you had an Nvidia GPU in a t420? How does it compare to that?
>>52981641
good frame rates, piss poor battery life
>>52981654
Even with Optimus?
>>52980115
X series need to be cuter
>>52981614
>>52981641
The NVS 4200m is just about on par with Intel HD 4000. It's a little bit better in some ways, a little bit worse in others.
>>52981641
>>52981679
>>52981712
Now consider a t430 with a newer Nvidia.
>>52980115
>futa edition
Why???
Is an X220 a good deal for around $130? 4GB RAM, i5 at 2.5Ghz, etc.
>>52981804
yes that is a good deal
I have a friend with an R-series. How much cash should I offer? He doesn't know the model.
>>52981856
>R-series
Don't.
Get a T, X or W, these are real ThinkPads
>>52981816
Thanks.
>>52981869
I know it's shit, but I can probably get it real cheap. How much is it worth?
>>52981889
Can't know without the actual model.
How would he not know? It's always on the hinge when it's open.
>>52981804
That's a great deal. I can't find one for less than $200 around here
>>52981965
I messaged him and told him that, but it's 2am, so I guess he'll get it tomorrow. I'll ask you guys when I get it.
>>52982025
Honestly why you're even bothering with a pseudo-thinkpad instead of just getting a real one
>>52981679
optimus doesn't do shit if the gpu stays on 24/7
and if you are using optimus and browsing the web then you are just using hd 3000 and getting the same performance as one without it
>>52981712
NVS is slightly faster than hd 4000, but it gets way worse battery life
>>52973259
anyone want a battery for a t410/20?
It's just been sitting around here for a month
just pay for shipping and ill send it to you
>>52982267
US or Europe?
That's really nice of you, Anon.
>>52982362
US
its only a 6 cell (or whatever the one that doesn't stick out is) so I don't think it's really worth much to try to sell it
I tripped on the cord :(
>>52983471
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
>>52983471
>>52983471
worst thing i've every done is break one of the hooks that keeps my tp closed. still works with the one, and i still treat it pretty bad.
but after getting a smaller one, i decided to stop using the old one and put in storage.
get a new lid anon
>>52983471
>>52983513
oh lawdy lawdy
>>52983517
Know of any good deals or at least good sites to shop around on? I'm looking around but can't find shit. And how difficult is it to swap lids? I've only worked on one other laptop and this is my only comp atm so it would be a real shame to fuck up.
My cat btw.
>>52983778
eh, the usual places, ebay, aliexpress, etc.
and it is easy if you get the maintenance guide and follow it. you'll have to remove a few things before you can get to the lid.
Why do people like these so much?
>>52983854
read >>52973259
>>52981626
The W520 also had USB 3.0
I have the T420 with the NVS 4200M and running Mint. Should I be using the proprietary nvidia drivers or something else? Shit gets kind of hot while watching youtube with the proprietary drivers.
>>52983974
Would they be anygood for light gaming?
what's the best chink battery for a T410?
When is Lenovo going to release a T560p? Having the H-class Core processors in the T460p is nice and all, but I'm sure there are a lot of people who would really appreciate the 15.4" screen.
Or are they just trying to get us to buy the P50?
What games should I play on my x220t? I tried half life and it is buggy and only gets 30 fps.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004TSNEHK/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pd_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=2NIF1W562N7JI&coliid=I3B2GXIZTGTBYR
this good deal? i dont think i'll mind glossy
>>52985035
Pretty much just indie shit since HD 3000 can't handle anything 3D.
>>52984619
you want a legit 6 cell for the cost of shipping?
>>52983471
did the screen survive?
Just won an auction for an X220 with an i5, 6GB of RAM, the original battery (rated "good" by the Lenovo battery checker), and the charger. It'll be in the original box, too, all for a little under $220 including fast shipping. Did I do good, /g/?
>>52985073
sure anon
>>52985166
congrats. That's pretty good
6cell or 9?
>>52985223
Six, I think. Just realized I'm going to have to borrow cash from a friend for it, but that's fine. I'm so hyped for my first Thinkpad! Going to install Gentoo.
>>52985244
>Gentoo
Stop
>>52985211
come up with a way to contact me that isn't 4chan and then tell me about it
>>52985244
dont wanna go full meme anon
>>52985260
Why not? It's the least bloated distro, after all. I only got the thinkpad so I wouldn't fuck up my stronger machine.
>>52985286
That was the idea.
>>52985281
email? [email protected]
>>52985281
Is this how people trade CP on this site?
>>52985300
You want arch then
>>52985349
:^)
everyone knows the best way to store CP is in an old thinkpad Battery
>>52985385
Nope, would rather compile everything myself, while also avoiding being an edgy Arch user.
>>52985403
thats the new slang for CP :^)
Where do I get a cheap x230? Was looking at Toshiba chromebook once my contract is paid, but the x230 seems like a sweeter deal
>>52973259
Is there a similar guide for IdeaPad's?
I got an x220t. How do I know what kind of battery I got? How do I test it? How do I buy a better one that's 9 cells? My battery only lasts for about 2 hours.
visual inspection, and lelnovo power manager/tlp.
with a credit card or cash if you find one local.
>>52985833
Will ThinkWiki have the list of compatible battery model numbers that will work for my laptop?
Just paid 20USD for a fucking SOIC Clip when my gookpad X200 with the ultrabay cost me 75USD years ago
Dis is the priac ob freedum :DDDDDDDD
>>52973259
>T420
No, get a T440s. This isn't 4 years ago.
>>52985964
i know that feel famfam.
tried to flash it earlier in the month, but didn't go through. will tackle it again before the end of the month
>>52985989
>tried to flash it earlier in the month, but didn't go through.
Yes. Same here. I bought the gook version of that clip for 5USD and no matter what I did I couldn't get the flashchip recognized by flashrom.
I'm going to write up good documentation once I succeed so others know not to fuck up where I did.
>>52981072
Quality
Reliability
*cough* Screen
Speed
Battery
Overall functionality
People really don't understand. Yes, the t420 and the x220 were great machines; however, it is time to move on. Thinkpads last a long time, but purchasing ones that are five years old and expecting to use them for another 3 years or so is ridiculous.
People know this even if the don't admit so, as they are in denial because they are too attached to trendy old ones because of the keyboard and shiny lights
>>52984535
Bumblebee + NVIDIA + Primus if you want a pseudo Optimus approach of only using the NVIDIA card when you need it.
>>52985035
Dorf Fort should work if you don't have that many Dwarfs (you won't get enough to lag anyway)
2hu should be fine too
>>52986405
>Quality
>Reliability
>Screen
How does the --30 generation improve on these over the --20s in any way?
>>52979714
>Even if the rest of it is shit
What's wrong? I've been saving up for it because it seemed like a pretty good modern laptop, is there anything I should know before putting my cash on the table?
Do you guys actually use the trackpoint?
>>52986721
yes
>>52985223
how do i keep my font that big in chrome without having to zoom in on every new page?
>>52986832
Change scaling
>>52986721
who doesn't?
Worth it?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T530-laptop-Intel-Core-i5-2-6GHZ-WebCam-8GB-Finger-Win-7-Pro-/141831224401?hash=item2105ccbc51:g:GW8AAOSwEgVWSpFH#rwid
>>52984587
it's fine
but the 600 series where a pretty damn big jump for mobile devices so I'd consider going for something newer
>>52986721
It's pretty much the only reason why I still use thibkpads
>>52985110
yeah its way touchy though. if you grab it on the broken side it pixelates way hard :/
>>52986721
fuck yeah. trackpads feel weird to me now.
>>52986721
disabled trackpad in bios
Do wifi cards need any special drivers or software to work? I want to buy one for my X220T but some guy said even though he bought the same wireless card it didn't work because it wasn't authorized by lenovo.
>>52990470
wait wat???
>insert wifi card
>download and install drivers if windows dosent install it with native drivers
>craft your own driver if leenoox
>???
>wave profit.
>>52985989
>>52986037
Did you guys actually use a rasberry pi for that? Trying to figure out if it's possible with any mobo, so I wouldn't have to fork over $50cad for one.
>>52983778
Nice cat. Would cuddle-cheat on my cat with.
>>52991018
lenovo whitelists certain cards via the BIOS
lurk moar
>>52992357
>not using custom bios from the start
https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Forum-WiFi-WWAN-Whitelist-Removal
2 seconds in google.
>>52992686
This is obviously preferable but wasn't the question he asked.
>>52992898
>Do wifi cards need any special drivers or software to work?
yes, they need a custom bios sometimes becase jew lenovo.
>>52973259
>2016
>desktop computers
I'm literally vomiting.
>>52993136
it's for fcc compliance as a product is licenced on a card/antenna combo
>>52993136
Wait, wut?
Help me out here. I bought an x201 without WAN, and i just bought the GOBI 2000 WAN addapter that im planing to install. Do i need a custom BIOS for that? or being an original part thats not necessary?
>>52993352
bla bla bla, you can change it with software..
Thats jews.
>>52993499
i cant find the actual list.
does anyone from here has it'?
>inb4 asking for lenovo info on a lenovo thread
Its like asking videogaems on /v/.
Will I get better performance with Win7 than 8 on my T420?
>>52993903
win8 is suposed to work better with power target.
but if you remove areo glass among other shit in 7 is good too.
>>52993974
if you remove glass you'll paradoxically get worse battery life and much higher CPU usage.
In classic and non-glass themes the DWM process is handled by the CPU instead of GPU.
Making a buying guide for dummies, because my youtube video was pretty shitty.
Any recommendations for laptops?
I will cover Toughbooks, Latitudes, Elitebooks and Apple machines.
I might touch ultrabooks, any laptops I am missing?
>>52994333
ThinkPads
>>52994333
Remember to promote the only usable ThinkPad ever >>52993226
>>52994524
i just bought the domain dankpads.com lol
I'll be promoting the blaze it
I will talk about other laptops, nonthinkpads, real ThinkPads and cuckpads...
currently have thinkpad yoga 14. It's actually great when it comes to build quality but the battery life is fucking horrible and I want something lighter. I'm considering selling it and getting either
>thinkpad 13
>$600-$750
>9 hours battery life
>3lbs
>1080p IPS screen
>memelake inel graphics
or
>thinkpad t450s
>$900
> >3lbs with extended battery
>15 hours battery life
>memewell graphics
or
>t460
>3.2 lbs
>$1000
>15 hours battery life
>1080p ips
>possible 940m graphics
dunno mane, I might wait to see if they put thunderbolt 3 in 2017 thinkpads but fuck me I cant deal with 4.2 lbs glossy screen and 5 hours of battery life anymore
>Want to upgrade from my ancient X300
>Still want something reasonably portable
>Look at newer X series
>1366x768 everywhere
>Somehow, newer shit has WORSE resolution than my X300
>The stuff with a real resolution has the fucking chiclet keyboard
>The only way to get a good resolution is some janky chinese panel swap
JUST
>>52994524
if you have to validate your purchase to yourself so badly in every thread it sure doesn't seem like a very good thinkpad
>>52995044
1366x768 IPS > 1440x900 TN shit
>>52995098
>Implying that matters when all I do is code/text edit and browse web occasionally
Also I have a privacy filter on the screen half the time anyway so the quality goes to shit anyway.
>>52995044
x240 and x250 have full HD screens
also you can get x230 with fhd screen
>>52995125
But those all have the trash keyboards.
>>52995080
>validate
ok kid
>>52995044
there is literally nothing wrong with the chicklet keyboard on the x240/50/60
in fact its arguably better since the keyboard now sits on the roll cage providing a stiffer typing surface
>>52995144
>nothing wrong with a chiclet keyboard
>>>/apple general/
>>52995138
>trash
lmao
also you can replace it with the x220 one
>>52995164
Doesn't that cause some of the buttons or at least fn combos to not work right?
>>52995163
ThinkPad chiclet layout >>>>>> Apple gay shit
>>52995140
>posts in every single thread about how his thinkpad is the only usable thinkpad and everybody else's is shit
>aggressively defends it to the death
>not a case of extreme buyer's remorse and desperately trying to find validation among anonymous strangers
ok kid
>>52995189
>aggressively
Please provide quotes, anon.
>posts in every single thread about how his thinkpad is the only usable thinkpad and everybody else's is shit
Which is true, isn't it?
Objectively speaking it's the best x230 config ever made.
>and you're butthurt
>>52995163
newer thinkpad keyboards are literally the best keyboards on the market.
if you wont accept them as "acceptable" youre saying that literally every single laptop other than classic thinkpads have unusable keyboards
thats called autism
>>52995254
>newer thinkpad keyboards are literally the best keyboards on the market
X300 keyboard with its higher than normal travel is pretty much the only thing on a laptop that feels anywhere close to a good keyboard.
>>52995278
>X300 keyboard with its higher than normal travel is pretty much the only thing on a laptop that feels anywhere close to a good keyboard.
> literally every single laptop other than classic thinkpads have unusable keyboards
so autism, got it
>>52995223
Buddy, nobody fucking cares that you have an X230. It's not a W701DS or 701C or even a T601F, you have nothing to brag about. You have a decent laptop and that's it. Settle the fuck down.
>>52992302
or a beagleboard, you need those gpio pins.
>>52995361
Just because I'm reposting the same picture for the 3rd time calling it "best" doesn't mean I'm aggressively bragging.
You're purely autistic if you can't spot a joke and/or irony.
>>52995125
>also you can get x230 with fhd screen
>can
I've yet to see a TPF member or 4chan shitposter with one. It is not an easy mod to do, not by far, T420s/30s is much easier.
>>52995163
The last good keyboard was on the X301, and even then typing experience started to die since the T20 was released.
The performance gains and efficiency of T430/W530 outweigh the layout for me.
Yeah it sucks I don't have forward/backward but muh backlit keyboard is a nice feature.
>X1C2 keyboard is full of keks to use
>>52995223
You have a sweet desktop setup and arguablly the X230 is a very good machine.
But to use that setup to justify your laptop is god tier is not valid. Everyone has their preference. T601 is such a better machine in its heyday.
I used to shitpost my W700ds for fun, but it had its fallbacks. It did its job well.
>>52995361
>701C or even a T601F, you have nothing to brag about.
Pic rel is the only pussy you'll get in your miserable life, faggot
>>52995490
>T601
>core 2 duo
>2016
Holy fuck.
Is there any valid argument to justify using this deprecated shit?
>>52973259
Superior in every way.
>>52995624
there's a fine for b8 this low quality
>>52995653
Nice argumentation you got there, aspie.
>>52995669
you're only adding to your fiscal woes
>>52995692
>1366x768
>disgusting design
>backdoored UEFIs
Yet, you defend this autistic shit.
Kill yourself
>>52995798
You were warned anon. Don't come crying back here when the debt collectors comes knocking.
>>52995594
I said heyday.
The T60 was just at the very end of the well built laptop, since then build quality by all manufacturers started to decline.
You're looking at purely a performance and efficiency standpoint.
ThinkPads had goat IPS displays and screen resolutions, but they went away.
I wanna buy a ThinkPad T400, but I'm worried about the damage and the capacitors inside. Anyone have any experience with this? I remember my 8 year old PC bricking and the issue was capacitors, and those used laptops seem to have a lot of wear.
I have a T440p and a docking station for it, everyone told me not to get it. I partially regret it and partially don't. I had to replace the trackpad, the screen, buy an extended battery, and a keyboard cover so the keys don't shine.
Despite this, it's still a better laptop then every Acer, Asus, or HP travesty I've ever owned.
>>52985223
dat sticker tho
>>52986721
What else can you use?
>>52985964
purpose of this?
Where does a fellow anon purchase an actual lenovo 9 cell battery for le t420?
>>52996933
flashing freedom
>>52996963
might break the bank for an OEM, but that's probably the best thing to get. next best is replacing the cells yourself, and then maybe some chink timebombs
>>52981762
Stylus.
Just got an IBM Spacesaver 2. Does anyone have any experience with it?
I own at least half a dozen Thinkpads currently and only use trackpoint on them, so I figured this will be an easy transition.
Why does the X60 still sell for more than $50?
>>52985964
Did you check to make sure you don't need the 525 instead?
>>52985989
Which clip are you using? Are you sure you have the clip securely on the chip and the pins in the right place? The only reason that flashrom can't read the chip is because of a bad connection. Check your connection and pin-out to be sure yours is good. I've done this a few times, ask me anything.
>>52992302
You need a RPI or BB. There is documentation for the RPI online. You can get the old RPI if you want to save some money. You can also get Rev A or B for the BB, the instructions work just the same. I personally use the Rev B Beaglebone as I found a cheap one online for 30 dollars.
For your clips, be sure to get the real Ponoma clips. The black chinese clips are shit and it's not fucking with them to save 5 dollars.
>>52997240
5252 is the one i have. the thing can sometimes read the chip, other times it can't.
i think it might need psu power, but again, don't want to try it until later in the month.
>>52993226
>ultrameme
literally kill yourself
>>52997204
That's the bottom for functional computers that can still surf the modern web. The same way any functional, running car is worth $500.
Sure, you'll still see people giving shit away, taking it to the junkyard, or donating it, but on the open market that's what you can expect for it, whether it was made in 1962 or 1992. It won't be worth any less until something major happens in technology.
I'm having trouble getting used to the trackpoint. I keep over shooting where I want to click from time to time.
>>52997160
I used to have ti but I sold it to a friend.
It's nice, but I never used it.
>>52997204
It's economics really. These guys get paid to dispose of old computers by companies and they turn around and sell them on eBay. 30-50 dollars is the cheapest you will find any computer online because it is enough to cover their labor for testing and cleaning the laptop.
Eventually, what you will find is that demand will fall for the x60, nobody will want to buy them for 50 dollars anymore, so the recyclers will trash them instead of going through the effort of reselling them. Then the price will skyrocket once the supply is low.
>>52997285
Which PSU do you use? Typically with the PSU, it will either work or it won't, unless you are talking about the BB's PSU, but most people just use a USB plugged into their computer for that.
The best advice I can give you for the connection is to open the clip all the way, slide it over the chip and then release it.
>>52997204
Because it's tiny.
>>52997342
Which distro are you using?
Go into your BIOS and disable the trackpad. Forcing yourself to use the trackpoint is the best way to get used to it. After a day or two it will be second nature.
>>52997349
Why didn't you use it? I wanted to get the M4-1, which has the older 1.0 trackpoint in it, but I couldn't find one for a reasonable price, it doesn't have the middle button, and it's mechanical.
>>52997395
Mint on a t420. I've gotten used to scrolling pages though.
I have a t420 with nvidia nvs 4200m using the proprietary nivdia drivers on mint. It seems like I'm getting screen tearing when I'm scrolling through web pages on firefox. Is this normal?
>>52997440
>>52997440
It should Just Werk(tm). Like I said, you'll get used to it after a day or two of using it exclusively.
You should check out Qubes-OS, it works great on the t420.
>>52997353
using the pi, so i thought i didn't need a psu.
so i'm guessing it is normal that sometimes the program can and can't see the rom?
>>52997300
It cost me only $100, nigger.
Everyone would get this monitor for that money.
>>52997502
Which laptop are you trying to Libreboot? The only one that doesn't need a PSU is the x60, which gets its power from the powercord.
Does your pin-out look like?
>>52974151
Speccy does not properly report RAM speeds. don't trust the readouts it gives you.
So I got a w520 and a t420 now. Where is my DS for endgame?
>>52997527
maybe if I where to sell it later
but there is no way in hell I'd actually use that piece of crap
>>52997558
nice b8, I'll bite
>>52997555
x200.
just following a guide i saw for the rpi2, since the libreboot one was for beagleboard only.
>>52997592
>piece of crap
Why is it a piece of crap?
Do you have any valuable argument against it?
For me
>it's cheap
>the resolution is bigger than 1920x1080
>It's perfect to do three things at one
>managing VMs and RDP consoles is fucking orgasmic on it
>cost me almost nothing
>uses only 10W
>>52997648
>shit colors
>shit viewing angles
>shit response time
>not just using dual monitors
>>52997688
>didn't know, thanks for letting me know
>good enough to me
>didn't know
>dual monitors = dual costs, also more space is required and more power
1/10, try again faggot
>>52997723
typical poorfag
>>52997600
The x200 definitely needs an external PSU. The guide you are using is probably for the x60.
You need to use this: http://www.amazon.com/Breadboard-Supply-Arduino-Solderless-Adpator/dp/B01BOEZ1OA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1455571919&sr=8-2&keywords=3.3v+psu+breadboard
Use a 5v barrel plug to supply power to it and run your wires from the 3.3v pin to the appropriate pin on the clip. The ground can either be run from the RPI2 or the power supply.
>>52997745
nice argument m89
>>52997745
>calling someone a poorfag for being frugal in /tpg/
k
>>52997747
followed this guide
https://github.com/bibanon/Coreboot-ThinkPads/wiki/ThinkPad-X200
don't really want to buy anything now, so i guess if it is true what you're saying, i should probably hold off.
>>52997745
I'm happy with what I got.
>>52997826
Do you have the one where it shows the shitposting olympics at the end with Finland and Australia on top?
>>52997826
>wkurwiona_chinska_bajka
>>52997776
That is your problem. The chip isn't get a consistent power supply. I'm surprised though, if you try to do this on the BB rev B, the BB will shutdown.
The 3.3v and 5v pins really aren't good to use while you're using the RPI, they're really meant to be used as a standalone PSU. When you use them, you choke the RPI.
In any case, you're looking at 10-20 dollars for a dedicated PSU and a barrell plug (if you don't have one laying around).
>>52998015
well, i should have figured that.
alright thanks, i'll give it another shot with that.
