>literally every card has a useless DVI port
Do people really need it still?
>>52958942
Both of my monitors use DVI. They're both from 2015, and they only have DVI and Displayport, and I'm not using that Apple shit
Well dual link DVI-I still supports up to 2k resolution, which is more than enough for a lot of current systems, so I imagine it's not completely useless.
I need it for my Korean monitor.
>>52958942
What? DVI can transmit sound, so it't like HDMI, but older and more compatible with displays.
>>52958959
>guaranteed_replies.png
>>52958942
Why must some asshole like you have to come on and ask the same stupid ass question in a different way everyday. OldTech-A can't be replaced by NewTech-B over night, it takes years phase out. Along with 1,2,3 USB ports for C and all other shit. They stop making DVI then a shit load of monitors will get garbaged. And when a company like Apples does do they(Replace a Technology over night) everyone gets mad.
>>52958942
Who uses sound in your monitor, its literally useless having sound coming from your monitor, and if you use a tv kill yourself
>>52958961
Kill yourself
>>52959082
no it doesnt
>>52958942
>Do people really need it still?
Nope.
Displayport to DVI cable is all they need.
But people are retarded and think both ends of a cable must be identical.
>>52958942
My monitor uses DVI
>>52959154
Yes it can. Some cards support sound over DVI, hover it believe it was made on cards more specific to video editing. Short answer. Yes DVI supports sound, no one really does it.
>>52959236
Enjoy buying a $100 adapter for dual link
my korean IPS panels say yes, it is still needed.
>>52959082
>DVI can transmit sound
Only unofficially.
It's a hack and lacking a standard there are some compatibility issues.
Both HDMI and Displayport do officially support sound.
They are superior in every way.
>>52959154
You can send audio over DVI the same way as HDMI (because they're pretty much the same thing). Only difference is there is no equipment designed to receive audio over DVI. So the only use is when you're using DVI to HDMI adapter/cable.
I use both my DVI ports. the I for my professional 19" CRT since is the only that still have analogic out, and the other for my 1440p dell display. even tough my dell has DP, I couldn't bother spending 10 USD since the display already came with a DVI card.
Your thread is stupid, faggot.
>>52959118
You mean speakers? My nephew has one he carries around with his console, it's pretty practical.
If you mean p2 connections I myself use a p2-rca connection between my monitor (p2) and my stereo receiver (rca) and this is how I get sound from both my pc and ps4.
>>52959277
>$100 adapter
That's exactly what I meant by "retards".
Why the fuck do you think it would cost $100?
WHY?
Do you think you need gold plated Monster cables or something?
Do the bits need to be polished?
Any $10 Displayport to dual link DVI cable will work fine.
Stop inventing problems when there aren't any.
>>52959270
>>52959082
Plain DVI does not transmit sound
>>52959270
Older cards like GTX 285 had spdif input for audio pass through over DVI. There was no HDMI on graphics cards back then. I had it connected to my AVR that way.
>>52959286
It's in the official specs. My 4850 did audio over dvi.
Rip bro you were still capable but amd abandoned you.
>>52959357
you need an active powered adapter for dual link moron. You wrote all that garbage just to show everyone how tech illiterate you are.
>>52959118
>Who uses sound in your monitor, its literally useless having sound coming from your monitor
I do.
The DAC in my screen has far less interference than the DAC in my PC.
Also, with audio handled by the "video" card when I want to watch a downloaded movie on my TV in the next room, the sound also moves to the correct room automatically.
>>52959398
>you need an active powered adapter for dual link
No you don't.
>>52958942
>useless DVI port
What do you mean by this? I don't understand.
>>52958942
>hdmi
>>52959400
The port and cable have no problems transferring sound. Whether it is connected to any sound source internally is another matter. Older cards had to pass through because they had no built-in sound chips.
Because I like having 144hz monitors. HDMI is the shit that needs to go already.
I bought a Samsung monitor like 2 years ago and it only has VGA and DVI
I prefer DVI since the connectors screw in and are less prone to accidentally. Also less stress on the connector itself due to the screws. I regularly move my monitor on my desk and rotate it to portrait mode and Displayport gave me problems.
>>52959453
Here's your (You) you dumb pathetic attention whore
>>52959519
accidentally disconnect
>>52959379
I had a GTX 285 and it had that, it was a little connector on the side of the Gpu to which you would connect a cable for sound. But it had an HDMI too.
I wish my graphics card had 2 display ports ;_;
I'm using one vga and one dvi because HDMI is shit.
>>52958942
It wouldn't be so bad if they had it as a header on the board and used a riser cable to the DVI jack.
>>52958942
I use it because display scaling is better on DVI (than HDMI, I'm a poorfag without DP). I don't have to use GPU scaling to fit the image on my screen properly.
>>52959685
Try putting the GPU in the second PCIe x16 slot.
I've seen this problem on the 970 chipset.
>>52958942
The better question is do we need the useless HDMI port that is locked down by big name TV manufacturers that can't come up with a half decent protocol if their life depended on it since they are too busy trying to stop piracy instead.
At this point every good monitor comes with a DVI and DP or DP at the least. There's no reason to need a shitty HDMI, especially as we go into the age of 4k and HDMI once again lacks behind DP 1.3 by miles.
The only time you honestly need a HDMI is if you're poor and bought a TV as a monitor, and you can easily get a HDMI to DP convert for that.
>implying there aren't people still using VGA monitors
My 2005 16'' eMachines CRT still works just fine, thank you.
Dvi can be turn easily converted to VGA and dvi without an active adapter like that you just need a dvi and a display port and you are cover for everything.
I rely on dvi and hdmi, none of my displays even have display port
>>52958942
Still using VGA ;-;
using vga, dvi to vga, display port to vga and some good old dvi
Am I insane or does HDMI look like ass on computers? I swear to god every GPU/screen combo I've seen or tried looks like a shittily compressed jpeg. Then I use a VGA cable and everything is crisp as fuck
>>52959486
no, DVI does not transmit sound. DVI-I does, but not normal DVI
Well i've got a Korean monitor in the mail, so I sure as fuck still need one.
>>52960632
HDMI is digital, the signal is transmitted to the monitor losslessly. It cannot look like shit if your settings are correct on both the PC and the monitor.
The most common culprits could be incorrect black level settings and potentially over/underscan.
>>52959236
Adapters can cause all kinds of issues with refresh rates when gaming.
>>52960632
HDMI was designed to transfer 4:2:2 YCbCr 16-235 subsampled picture (i.e vastly inferior to what computers normally send). Sometimes due to buggy drivers some shitty monitor may be detected as TV, and that's what you'll get.
Normally there should be no difference, though.
>>52959118
TVs are dope though, frig off.
>tfw GTX 980Ti
>tfw Samsung 50" Smart TV
>tfw delicious HDMI connection and resolution
>absolute freedom when using my wireless mouse and keyboard in bed, at my study desk, etc
>not close to the screen all the time, saving my eyesight
Monitor fags, topkek
> digital signals mattering
ok kid
>Hi, i'm an idiot consumer whore who wants to use a video interface infested with DRM
good for you, now please fuck off back to /v/ with the rest of the human filth
I have a GTX 770 and two monitors, one 28" Samsung UHD using DisplayPort (kinda need to since HDMI doesn't like UHD @ 60 Hz) and a 23" HP using DVI-I. I've used HDMI on the HP, and it just doesn't look nice. I can't quite explain it, but the color saturation and sharpness seem off.
I see no problem with DVI.
>>52961550
>980ti
>hdmi
>shitty samsung smartmotion bullshit shitbox
>wireless
10/10
>>52958942
>Hi, I use TVs instead of monitors
KYS
>>52961550
>tvbro
I use dual TVs in my htpc setup, 40" and a 37"
>multitasking from the bed
also Logitech k400
can someone explain the arrow meme to me
arrows on pictures
>>52961550
>Smart TV
not a great thing tb͏h
Not everyone is blessed with amazing state of the art monitors op, so yes, they are still needed.
>>52962426
This. A good monitor will outlast any other hardware easily. I'm still using a s-pva monitor from 2007 and I find it superior to current IPS crap with their 1000:1 contrast ratios. QA was much better in those days, too. There simply isn't any reason to replace it.
>>52959398
>active converter
>$100 adapter
>ad hominems in later posts
No you don't. Unless you intend on doing an Eyefinity(TM) setup you don't. The only time you need an active dongle is when you have more than two monitors.
I have a triple monitor setup, and I use CAD software/game in Eyefinity(TM) and I paid all of $18 retail (Amazon) for my "HDMI to DP active adapter". That being said idk where your country of residence is, so check your web listings of choice.
Professional monitors are only DP or DVI. Also DVI is electrically compatible w/ HDMI.
only displayport and dual link dvi and output in 144hz
kthx
>>52962878
Yeah keep talking you dumb piece of shit
>>52959286
>HDMI
>superior to DVI-D
HDMI can't even handle 144hz you braindead pleb
can confirm, you need active adapter for dual link DVI
>>52959286
HDMI maxes out at 60hz idiot
>>52958959
same with mine. 2015, 144hz, dvi except hdmi instead of displayport.
>>52962878
I have a 30" monitor that takes dual link dvi, it absolutely does need an active adapter from my MacBooks mini display port. HDMI is not capable of the full resolution of the monitor.
>>52963591
>To output 1080p at 120Hz or 144Hz, you need a dual link DVI-D or DisplayPort cable and connect those to your monitor and computer. These standards include support for higher resolutions and refresh rates. HDMI 1.3 or higher can also be used to output 1080p content at 144Hz.
http://www.144hzmonitors.com/knowledge-base/144hz-1080p-which-cable-do-i-need/
yes, it can, but needs to be hdmi 1.3 or higher.
>>52963871
Are there even any hdmi 1.3 gpus?
>>52964001
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-970/specifications
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-960/specifications
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-980/specifications
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-980-ti/specifications
maxwell 2 supports hdmi 2.0 so yeah i think any modern gpu supports hdmi 1.3 or higher.
>>52964132
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2947294/components-graphics/asus-strix-radeon-r9-390x-review-keeping-up-with-the-high-performing-joneses.html
http://techreport.com/review/28513/amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-graphics-card-reviewed/2
r9 390 suppots hdmi 1.4a and same with the fury x.
so yeah, all modern gpu's support 1.3 or higher.
>>52959966
This. Also converting HDMI to VGA will probably cost (a lot) more.
>>52959966
AMD gpus can't do vga because the lack of ramdac.
>>52960881
gr8 b8 m8
>>52958942
>Use HDMI
my monitor has no speakers, seems redundant.
>Use DisplayPort
don't have a cable, only DisplayPort to DVI adapter
>>52958942
isnt DVI alot better?
>>52958942
DVI supported 144hz first.
>>52958959
>and I'm not using that Apple shit
Here's your (You)
in case youre actually a retard, DP aint apple...
>>52958959
Here's your (You)
I hope the next generation of cards just comes with three DP1.4 ports on them, and reduce in size to 1.5 to 2 expansion slot width (with removal of VGA). Current cards are often 2.2 in size, and it really fucks with how many PCIe slots on a motherboard you actually use.
> Banish VGA to the motherboard for trouble shooting.
> HDMI can die.
> Use an adaptor if you need to support legacy shit.
>>52958942
my monitors use it
why does it even matter?
>>52959114
I unironically started using DVI just this year. VGA for lyfe
>>52965356
Do you seriously think the size of those power hungry piece of shit cards is because of the ports?
The only card worth buying
>only deprecated port is HDMI
>THREE Double Penetration ports
>>52958942
I use DVI for both of my monitors.
>>52958942
>Do people really need it still?
How else am I going to use my VGA monitor?
>>52958942
OP is stupid. They come with screws so you can take it off.
>>52959118
>PC to monitor
>monitor to headphones
Less clutter
>>52965929
mmm... dat double penetration.
>>52965560
i'm talking about the next iterations which are based on HBM or shrinks
>>52958942
hdmi is garbage faggot
>>52961550
enjoy your input lag
>>52963386
Where did you find this chart? It's obviously wrong. Dual-link is commonly used for 2560x1600@60Hz.
>>52958942
I still use DVI...
It's the best if you don't give a shit about your monitor speakers having audio(which I don't)
>>52959429
Install a soundcard.
They're cheap. They're good. You can power some nice headphones or speakers with them.
>>52958942
VGA*
>>52958942
Dvi support better frame rates than HDMI or Display port but are the slowest of the 3 its not useless on midrange card but on the high end DVI is not needed
I have both a HDMI monitor and DVI monitor
the DVI is more power
friendly
HDMI has more sound features bigger resolution its also in more things
Display port kinda rare still, but its inside all the expenise monitors : has sounds, internet.
not sure why anyone wants internet in their monitors?
>>52958942
Yes, I'm using it right now.
>See this thread last night
>Wake up, thread is still active, 100+ posts
God you guys are hopeless
>>52958942
>TFW you still use the VGA and the DVI connector on your 650
well fuck me sideways if I get a new card I have to get new cables too
For some reason if my PC goes into rest mode from sitting idle whilst connected via HDMI it fucks up the sound, so I use DVI and an audio cable instead. Works like a charm. Not to mention fucking HDMI stretches the BIOS screen out like shit. Idk if this is common shit or if I'm just retarded, but fuck HDMI for computers.
My monitors only have DVI plugs
Will the r9 fury work fine with them with a dvi to display port converter?
>>52958959
(You) are a faggot
>>52967840
or an external dac/amp combo
>>52961550
what are you
