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Previously on: >>52873878

Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.

There are four ways to try Linux, you can:

1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Dual-boot Linux with Windows/Mac (recommended if you want to learn more about Linux)
4) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)

Before asking, please search for answers to your questions in resources.

Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.

Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.

Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
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What is GNU/Linux?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Various helpful GNU/Linux pages from your friends at /g/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux

Check out this page for any updates on the OP
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php//flt/

Beginner tips/guides
https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/

A script designed to ease the transition from Windows to Debian
https://gitgud.io/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript
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fuck gnu
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Reminder that a 2GB+ VRAM GPU is recommended for Linux.
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anyone gotten Brutal Doom up and running on arch? I used that github guide but pacman never notices that I have zandronum installed.
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>>52889978
use zdoom -iwad doom.wad -file brutaldoom.pk3
it just works for normal people
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>>52889902
>>>/9gag/ is a better place for memes
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Can anyone comment on fedora with LXDE? I'm rather new, but I liked LXDE better than GNOME, and I'm running on a brick. Should I do it?
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>>52889902
Update your bait, faggot. Linux kernel is now in GNU
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So I would like to try out a linux distro. I have this old white unboidy mac book core duo @2.4ghz. What distro is lightweight enough to run and some what is beginning friendly? How would I duo boot linux on osx also
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>>52889883
>Overwrite everything with Linux
>(not recommended)
>mfw
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is there a way to install ubuntu and create your own partitions and filesystems?
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>>52890239
Yes?

Every distro's installation has the option to do advanced/custom partitioning at that stage.
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>>52890236
Yeah what the fuck.
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>>52890236
>>52890309
>There are four ways to try Linux,
>>TRY

overwriting your shit with Linux is a bad idea if you're just getting your feet wet
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1. How is korora?
2. Are Fedora spins as suitable as Ubuntu for serious normie tier desktop use?

Going to override everything with GNU/Linux here.
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>>52890828
people tend to give up easily if they're not going all the way in

I think I was finally converted when Windows had an unfixable issue (fairly common but I wasn't in the mood to reinstall that day) and I started spending more time on my GNU/Linux partition. Wanted something besides Linux Mint so I found CrunchBang. Later Ubuntu Minimal, and then regular old Debian. Used that for a few years. These days I've got Arch on everything. No regrets.
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>>52890886
spins are no different than the "original"/base distro. the only difference is what's installed by default.

the *buntus, for example, are just Ubuntu with some programs for the particular DE (and without the Amazon snooping). Fedora Spins are the same, except with Fedora Workstation as their base distro.

As for Korora:

Based on this (https://kororaproject.org/about/whats-inside), I think it's legit. I've never used it, though, and don't really plan on it. It seems like the Linux Mint of Fedora (because Linux Mint is basically Ubuntu with all the codecs and stuff installed by default). Give it a shot.
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>>52890956
Different strokes, I suppose.

I basically just stopped using Windows because I was (and still am) too lazy and impatient to restart my computer, go through Windows' long boot process, and get through its slow startup just to use a couple of programs specific to it.

I had access to everything I needed here, so the dual boot was (and still is) just a safety precaution.
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Do some linux distros use GiB, MiB instead of GB and MB when appropriate?
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>>52891164
Depends on what software you use
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>>52891173
The OS themselves use the correct acronyms though, right?
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I love Linux. That is all
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>>52891201
"themselves"
The software you choose to use will make that call. You can change it in most cases,default,again,depends on what software you install and how the dev(s) decide to make their program work
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>>52891090
The slow reboot process for a few things is why I ditched dual booting even after I did fix the Windows issue. I also hated that my friends would ask me to play a Windows-only game as if it was no big deal to boot into Windows. Eventually just removed the HDD Windows was on and told them all.
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>>52891201
df has the following options:
       -h, --human-readable
print sizes in human readable format (e.g., 1K 234M 2G)

-H, --si
likewise, but use powers of 1000 not 1024


So as >>52891243 said, it depends on the software.
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>>52891164
The only companies that unironically use base 10 MB and GB instead of base 2 are hardware manufacturers selling data storage, so they can pretend that 930GB is a terabyte.

Block size is in base 2, using anything else in an operating system puts you firmly on the spectrum.
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>>52891282
930 Gibibytes is a Terabyte though, hardware companies are 100% correct.

It's everyone else that's retarded.
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>>52889883
best text editor?
something like sublime that doesn't prompt me to pay for it every time?
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>>52890886
I'm using Korora right now and I think it's the best Fedora experience I've ever had.
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>>52891369
Geany imo
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You should go to Europe and drive at 100mph in a 100kph zone, when they pull you over tell them that the signs didn't mention what the speed is in so you just assumed it was mph, since that was "correct" when you got your licence.

Don't forget to tip.
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>>52891369
Geany is good, Gedit + plugins is good, WINE + Notepad++ is decent.
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>>52891416
It would still be a crime.
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>>52891320
You realise that applying SI units to bytes, a non-metric completely arbitrary grouping of 8 bits, makes very little sense right?
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>>52891369
Give Atom a go. I use Vim myself, but a colleague of mine recently switched from ST2 to Atom and loves it. Plenty of plugins, too
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>>52891416
Meant to reply to >>52891320
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I have a dual head setup. When ever i launch a fullscreen X program, the mouse will not stay on that window, and will go to the other monitor instead of staying in the fullscreen window.
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>>52891369
>>52891426
Notepadqq
It is the clone of notepad++
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>>52891426
I get used to Gedit, but then whenever I used notepad++ I miss some of the more advanced searching features it has.

Also the fact that the saving open tabs plugin is completely fucking broken is nice. Maybe I should just stop putting it off and learn Vim already.
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>>52891499
notepadqq
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>>52889883
"go balls deep and dont have a hard drive just a usb stick running puppy slacko''
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>>52891439
Absolutely. That's why data is mostly measured in powers of 2 and you should use KiB, MiB and GiB instead of KB, MB and GB.

KiB = 1024 bytes

KB = 1000 bytes

A 1TB HDD is 930 GiBs.

Which linux distros use the correct acronyms?
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>>52891554
>correct acronyms?
Personal choice, and with everything else in linux, most programs work either way.
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>>52891554
I don't think you understand.

What I mean is that KB isn't an SI 'K' followed by a B, it is its own thing since applying 1000 to something measured in groups of 8 is fucking silly.
It would be like having kilodozens, or kiloscores. I guess it does get confusing if you say that KBit is 1000 bits but KB is 1024 bytes.

But hey, it's not like ISPs haven't been taking advantage of the fact nobody knows the fucking difference between bits and bytes for the last 30 years.
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>>52891643
maybe he just doesnt give a flying fuck.something so fucking trivial should be ignored.
>outside is where you should be
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>>52891643
It doesn't matter what quantity the unit is.

What matters is that Kilo should always mean 1000 and not 1024.

If you don't like bytes you could just refer every amount of data by Kibibits and Kilobits.
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>>52891554
Also, strictly speaking the 1000 prefix is meant to be lower-case 'k' so pretty much every implementation gets something wrong.
Then you get inconsistencies because the 1024 prefix is upper-case 'Ki'.

The US will measure distances in kilometres before computers universally display base 2 filesizes in KiB.
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Guys.
>extract file using 7z b/c muh freedom
>no progress indicators
>check manpage
>-bd Disable percentage indicator
>mfw
Explain this bullshit!
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>>52891949
7z is shit.
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>>52891949
Use lrzip
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>>52892028
Does it understand as much archive types as 7z?
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>>52891981
What are you using?
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>>52892054
No, but it dosent need to. lrzip is superior to every other archive type
You cant argue with 90% compression ratio
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>>52892067
I avoid 7zip, but for archive coming from the internet I use file-roller.

For my own archive I use rar or tar.
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>>52890141
Do it. LXDE is an excellent DE.

I've used Fedora LXDE and it's great.
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>>52892096
>rar
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>>52892155
>lrzip
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>>52891320
That may be, but it doesn't make it alright to obscure the truth from people to scam them.

There's not even any point; it literally costs no more to make 1000GB than to make 930.
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>>52892162
>implying
I would literally use anything else in place of .rar, even .zip or .7z
rar just screams password protected megaupload virus.jpg.exe
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>>52891369
> Four replies
> Only one even mentions Vim

Vim is easy to use, and if you're willing to put some hours in, is the most powerful text editor in the game.
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>>52892217
>the most powerful text editor in the game
I agree, emacs is great.
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>>52892217
>some hours in
I dont need to "put hours in" a fucking TEXT EDITOR.
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>>52891369
>>52892217
To be fair, he said "something like sublime" which would imply "not Vim/Emacs".
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>>52892205
>but it doesn't make it alright to obscure the truth from people to scam them

But that's microsoft's fault for inducing everyone in error.
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>>52892209
>has no technical for not using them
Any container and have anything in it. It dosent matter unless you're talking compression/time ratio
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Tried Mint for like the fifth time recently. Got it installed on a dodgy as fuck hard drive. It was up and running and everything, but when I was on Steam, I realised that for some reason the Steam Chat boxes don't show up on the taskbar, so if they're minimised, you can't get them back.

I downloaded Ubuntu and I'm going to give that a shot on a better quality HDD. I sort of/kind of want to get out of Windows, but it's hard because that's all I've ever used and, spyware aside, it does literally everything I want it to with no hassle. If I want to game in Linux (pls no hate), should I use WINE or something like VirtualBox?
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>>52892205
Yeah try to explain the space they lose from formating. That is going to go over very well
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>>52892205
>There's not even any point; it literally costs no more to make 1000GB than to make 930

You could say the same thing about 700MB single layer CD-Rs, the material costs are identical to 4GB DVD-Rs so why do they still bother making them?

The point is to make people run out of storage faster, so they have to buy more, sooner.
Same thing with applel having no external storage whatsoever, which would be fine if they used 128GB internal or something similar, instead of 16GB.
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>>52892081
>You cant argue with 90% compression ratio
But I can argue with randomly downloaded pretty common rar files I need to EXTRACT
>>52892096
>file-roller
>rar
>>>/v/
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>>52892255
Well the compression ratio is shit, and it's not even easily extractable on Wendys or snowflakeOSX without installing shitty 3rd party tools.

But I didn't want to talk about the obvious practical downsides, just how socially detrimental it would be.
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>>52892311
I dont get your fucking view.
So only rar,zip,7z can contain files that can harm your computer?
.tar.gz can contain a virus and run on a windows machine
.ace can be run on windows and contain a windows virus
.bz could contain a sh script that is blindly run and ---no-preserve-roots your entire system

What exactly is your fucking point
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>>52892273
>The point is to make people run out of storage faster, so they have to buy more, sooner.
That's some advanced tinfoiling here, brother.
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>>52892354
Archives can't harm my computer.
Virus can't harm my computer.
>windows machine
>>>/v/
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>>52892328
So only zip is supported natively on most OS without "shitty 3rd party tools".
So you like zip over other things, but if it is so shitty why is it stock on every os?
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>>52892354
Who are you quoting?
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>>52892394
Id love to see an exe run in a zip/rar/cab/7z do a fucking thing to linux.

You still dont have a point in any of the shit you're spouting.
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>>52892427
Before attempting to compile this virus make sure you have the correct version of glibc installed, and that your firewall rules are set to ‘allow everything’.

Put the attachment into the appropriate directory eg. /usr/src.
Type ‘tar xvzf evilmalware.tar.gz’ to extract the source files for this virus.
‘cd’ to the directory containing the virus' source code and type ‘./configure’ to configure the virus for your system. If you're using ‘csh’ on an old version of System V, you might need to type ‘sh ./configure’ instead to prevent ‘csh’ from trying to execute ‘configure’ itself.
Type ‘make’ to compile the package. You may need to be logged in as root to do this.
Optionally, type ‘make check_payable’ to run any self-tests that come with the virus, and send a large donation to an unnumbered Swiss bank account.
Type ‘make install’ to install the virus and any spyware, trojans pornography, penis enlargement adverts and DDoS attacks that come with it.
You may now configure your preferred malware behaviour in /etc/evilmalware.conf.
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>>52892479
And hating an archive container for any reason then its compression ratio, is logical why?
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>>52892362
> rational inference
> tinfoil hattery

Microsoft Shill detected.
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>>52892505
You seem a bit new to 4chan, so let me explain:
The user "Anonymous" are actually many different users you are talking to. That said, fuck your obscure archive container. Nobody cares if it can compress to -200% when it can't decompress rar files.
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>>52892578
But you hate rar files
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So I just searched for "best linux" and got sooo many results. Maybe /flt/ can help? What is the BEST linux?
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>>52892652
The one RMS is using: Trisquel.
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>>52892684
RMS has no prefered distro, the FSF installed him Trisquel.
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Just installed Arch for the first time after using ArchBang for a couple years.
Is this really what people call hard/annoying? Takes an hour, and I'm pretty sure I can do it faster next time.
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Why would chrome start its own instance of transmission for a magnet link, and a separate instance for firefox
Transmission is set properly for xdg
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>>52892959
>hour
>10 minutes
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>>52892354
You're replying to at least 3 different people you fucking mong.

The person(s) mocking your shitty archive tool isn't the same person who laughing at choosing .rar (me).

Either way, not having .rar support is still shitty.
I didn't say that no tool should support .rar any more, I just said that choosing to use it yourself when there are at least 3 better alternatives depending on the use case is at best bad taste, at worse stupid.
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>>52892971
I carefully selected my partition scheme, considered encryption.
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>>52892399
It's supported across the board because it is old, which also explains why it is not very good any more.
Every browser supports http, that doesn't mean you should use it over https whenever possible because of "muh compatibility" unless you absolutely need to.
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What do you guys think of Arch forks, like Manjaro and Antergos?
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>>52893035
Not 1337 enough.
memes in 3.. 2.. 1..
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What do you guys use in the glorious era of microservices to manage docker instances on a single machine? I need something like sandstorm but with less bloat & virtualization overhead, that I can run on a low-end box (512MB ram).
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>>52892999
> Considered
You encrypted, right?

If not you don't deserve those trips.
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Anyone know of any non-colorful/black and white Linux icon themes? I enjoy my desktop being in grayscale, and i'm not too fond of all the colorful shit.
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Guess what theme is the pic anons.

Hint: is Linux.
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You haven't seen my final form !
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>>52889883
>GNU/Linux
but I use alpine, anon..
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how do i make a distro/de not look like shit
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>>52893315
You can do better, brah
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>>52893416
b-but how!
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>>52893430
Sadly, not my screenshot
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>>52893412
Install Cinnamon
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>>52893462
that looks like shit
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>>52893468
>He can't customize his DE
Crawl back to wingblows
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>>52893486
>hey, use linux
>oh, he's bad at it, don't use it, nerd!
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>>52893497
see >>52893497
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>>52893524
see >>52893524
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>>52893524
>>>52893497
>see >>52893497
>>52893531
>>>52893524
>see >>52893524
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Anonymous 02/09/16(Tue)21:30:06 No.52893524>>52893531 (You) >>52893541
>>52893497 (You)
see >>52893497 (You)
Anonymous 02/09/16(Tue)21:30:57 No.52893531>>52893541
>>52893524
see >>52893524
Anonymous 02/09/16(Tue)21:31:43 No.52893541
>>52893524
>>>52893497 (You)
>see >>52893497 (You)
>>52893531 (You)
>>>52893524
>see >>52893524
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>>52893543
>>52893556
>>52893559
Go back to bed, winchild
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>>52893587
i haven't slept in five thousand years
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>>52893395
Do you have problems using alpine?
>>52893412
uninstal DE, install WM
>>52893559
>>52893556
>>52893543
>>52893541
>>52893531
>>52893524
>>52893497
>mfw
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>newfag
>finally get arch going
>finally get openbox going
>finally get irc going
have nothing to say
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>>52893707
Welcome.
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This is a short list of a longer one (A LONGER ONE) I am building on GNU/Linux software. Please be patient while I add description and the rest.

Boot Screen: Fbsplash, Splashy, Plymouth
Display Manager: Qingy, SLiM
Keybinding: Autokey, Xbindkeys, xmodmap
Macro Recorder: xdotool, Xnee
Application Launcher: dmenu, ratmenu, GNOME Do
Dock: Tint2, Global Menu, Avant Window Navigator
X Event Display: xev, xwininfo, xprop
Status Bar Client: Byobu, Dzen
Status Bar Server: i3status, monky
Notification Daemon: dunst
Notificacion Library: Libcanberra + Libnotify
Window Manager: Twin, TinyWM, dwm, Ratpoison, i3, FVWM, Common Desktop Environment
File Manager: Ytree, Ranger, rover, worker, Endeavour Mark II, PCManFM
Multiplexer: GNU Screen, Tmux
Terminal: UXTerm, rxvt-unicode (a.k.a. urxvt), SyncTERM, Terminology, Cool Retro Term
Worskpace Pager: Skippy-XD, 3D-Desktop, s3d
Window Resizing: wmctrl, QuickTile
Clipboard: xclip, XSel
Wallpaper Changer: hsetroot
Animated Wallpaper: Xplanet, xmountains, Xsnow, Xphoon
Video Wallpaper: VLC
Terminal As Wallpaper: xrootconsole
Cursor: GPM + xbanish
Terminal Widget: YeahConsole, tty-clock, SL, CMatrix
Screenshot Information (Bash): envee, screenFetch
Screenshot Information (Perl): alsi, screenfo
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I've tried Ubuntu, mint, and Debian. I used mint the longest, but felt like I learned very little about linux.

Currently deciding between linux from scratch and arch. Not sure if it would be easier moving from arch to linux from scratch or vice versa.

I love the arch wiki, been spending a lot of time on it researching my hardware and problem troubleshooting
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>>52893949
You don't need LFS unless you want to build your distro.
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>>52893844
>application launcher
gmrun
>macro recorder
antimicro
>dock
Plank
>window manager
fluxbox
>file manager
Spacefm
>terminal
termite
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>>52894007
I guess I should learn more about linux in general before tackling something lie that. Heard it was a good learning experience but have also heard the same about arch
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>>52894044
why not superior dmenu? Inifnitely lighter and minimal
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>>52893949
LFS exists purely for educational purposes. Even if you want to build your own distro, you'll be better off basing it on existing one.
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>>52894059
I dont need all of that bullshit for a simple app launcher.
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>>52894121
dmenu is the simplest app launcher it doesn't need a gui toolkit to render as opposed to gmrun
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>>52893949
LFS is some advanced shit. Are you comfortable with compiling mountains of source code?

Just install Arch or Gentoo, man.
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>>52894052
Please, tell me you actually used Linux, because nobody gets recommended LFS as a first "distro".

Anyway here is a short list to guide you on your decision:

______Distros For Beginners______

>Mint Cinnamon: For people just switching from Windows, very pretty and excellent first experience. You can usually use software from Ubuntu and Debian.

>Lubuntu: If you want minimalism or installing Linux in an old computer, or just want something that works.

______Distros For Power Users______

>Arch Linux: For learning more about Linux, having the newest software or for extreme personalization, it has the best wiki to go from intermediate user to pro.

>Parabola GNU/Linux-Libre: Using only free software to avoid proprietary software, removes binary blobs and any obfuscated code. Fully compliant with the Free Software Foundation.

>Qubes OS: Security exponentially increased.

>PupNGo Linux: For a more minimalistic distro or for really (REALLY) old computers, has an impressive set of software.

>Replicant OS: A replacement for the closed sourced Android, this is meant for your smartphone.

______Distros For Servers______

>CentOS: For a very stable and really long time support (like for 10 years), with the plus of adding experience for a Linux job.

>OpenMediaVault: Quick and friendly NAS/server.

>Alpine Linux: Ultra secure Linux server and firewall.
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>>52894132
dmenu-xftAUR[broken link: archived in aur-mirror]: XFT font support
dmenu-xft-heightAUR[broken link: archived in aur-mirror]: XFT font support and custom height support
dmenu-xft-transparencyAUR[broken link: archived in aur-mirror]: XFT font support and transparency
dmenu-xft-mouse-heightAUR[broken link: archived in aur-mirror]: XFT font support, custom height, and mouse support
dmenu2AUR: dmenu fork with many useful patches applied and additional capabilities added including dimming, specifying a custom opacity, and underlining.


^Thats all bullshit
gmrun i tell it where i want it to be and it stays there with no extra packages or mods.
i type and press tab once and im done.
dmenu is far from "simple"
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>>52894059
>>52894132
>simple
>suckless-tools
BLOAT
L
O
A
T
urxvt -geometry 80x1+444+380 -e bash -it

bind to a hotkey, get app launcher plus all aliases, functions, etc as expected.
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What's the single most secure ootb Linux distribution that doesn't not work?

I know Qubes exists but that's like VM everything and is hard to work with.

I been thinking of migrating to OpenBSD, honestly.
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>>52894168
__________________tl;dr_________________
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>>52894247
>that FUD against suckless
Cuck detected.
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>>52894250
Tails, Snowden is using it.
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>>52894183
did you just copy and paste the "patched variants" section from the Arch Wiki?

Do you know what a patched variant is?

It would have been smarter to post dmenu's dependencies versus gmrun's:

https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/dmenu/
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/gmrun/

dmenu's dependencies are fairly lightweight, whereas gmrun requires gtk2, which itself has a lot of dependencies.
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I want to put something like "I know Linux" in my resume.
How do I know that I know enough without having to google problems?
Are there resources available?

As far as I've been using Linux it was either as a regular desktop OS or I compiled some program with CMAKE or autoconf and I have yet to understand how those development toolchains really work.
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>>52894269
he's right you know, suckless are gay
it starts with a-tool (why not using a fucking sh script?)
and it ends with dmenu

dwm is nice, but that's all


the real cancer is that ALL memeloads use dmenu, just like all memeloads use scrot (also bloat, think of already installed imagemagick).

conclusio: fuck /g/ opinions
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>>52894306
you forgot the all "memeloads" anime wallpaper
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>>52894306
also you forgot the all "memeloads" oh-my-zsh :^)
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>>52894306
Go trick some idiots in other place.
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>>52894355
Nice arguments you got there, anon. Sure you showed me.
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>>52894288
>requires gtk2
Which nigger isnt using gtk in some form that it isnt being pulled in?
I didnt say it is .04 larger then demnu.I said its features

Yes they are patches.Meaning they are not included in the default.
I need a patch to move its default position?
Sounds like a detriment more then a feature.
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>>52894367
this
>there here's some code showing a bar, the other things you'll code yourself.
There's the point when lightweight goes too lightweight.
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>>52894300
Do LFS.
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/flt/ards, why does it happen, that everytime when no newb is asking some question, /flt/ is going to murder each other with hardcore memes?

Just keep calm, mpv ~/.porn/* and chill out.
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I'm using manjaro and I have no idea how to install my printer using CUPS

I'm reading the manual and I have no idea what the fuck to do
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>>52894487
Prepare for Manjaro memes and no actual solution for your problem in 3.. 2.. 1..
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>>52894487
>I'm using manjaro
found the problem
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>>52894530
fuck off faggot
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>>52894487
Printers are gay.
Money is gay
Fuck your problem; send a fucking email.
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>>52894168
I used Debian for about 2 weeks and mint for about 3 months.
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What's a good distro for mac switchers who care about the UI?
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>>52894168
>android
>closed source
http://github.com/android
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYxpjpT9Q-Y
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So I've got this little media streamer thing that's essentially a Wi-Fi bridge/pocket NAS. I was looking into installing Linux on it and it turns out it's already running it. How do I cross compile shit for it?

# cat /proc/cpuinfo && uname -a
system type : Atheros AR9330 (Hornet)
processor : 0
cpu model : MIPS 24Kc V7.4
BogoMIPS : 266.24
wait instruction : yes
microsecond timers : yes
tlb_entries : 16
extra interrupt vector : yes
hardware watchpoint : yes, count: 4, address/irw mask: [0x0000, 0x0408, 0x0050, 0x00d0]
ASEs implemented : mips16
shadow register sets : 1
core : 0
VCED exceptions : not available
VCEI exceptions : not available

Linux (none) 2.6.31--LSDK-9.2.0_U10.5.13-GST-A4 #8 Mon Aug 26 14:35:32 CST 2013 mips GNU/Linux
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>>52895721
>he's not using a screen recording program

oh right, linux doesn't have any native applications that record the screen...
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>>52895876
>MIPS

Um, maybe you should ask the openwrt devs
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>>52895997
>oh right, linux doesn't have any native applications that record the screen...

He wanted to show the raw performance, hence the camera instead of a CPU intensive screen recorder
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>>52896005
I'm trying to compile Hello World for a test and when I run file on the executable it says
for GNU/Linux 3.2.0
, should I try building on an older system or is there a way to build for an older kernel? I think I've got the right toolchain just that the kernel's too old for the binary
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>>52896047
>I'm trying to compile Hello World for a test and when I run file on the executable it says
for GNU/Linux 3.2.0
, should I try building on an older system or is there a way to build for an older kernel? I think I've got the right toolchain just that the kernel's too old for the binary

I'm not sure, if the device is popular, then someone probably has an updated kernel developed specifically for it.
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>>52896073
https://wikidevi.com/wiki/DANE-ELEC_Media_Streamer

http://forums.hackaday.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=4136
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Is there any easy way to customize the colors of the paper theme in gnome?
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>try to play tf2 with steam
>get this error

how do I fix this? I tried reinstalling all nvidia driver related packages and rebooting but that didn't fix anything
PROBLEM: You appear to have OpenGL 0.0.0, but we need at least 2.0.0!
Could not find required OpenGL entry point 'glGetError'! Either your video card is unsupported, or your OpenGL driver needs to be updated.
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>>52896047
if you can get the kernel headers in use on the system you could rebuild a modern gcc for a cross compiler (maybe?)
and then static link everything. but I am not sure if that would work, its just what I would try.
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>>52896124
AMD card?
https://askubuntu.com/questions/539858/ubuntu-14-04-could-not-find-required-opengl-entry-point-glgeterror/592692#592692
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>>52889883
I'd just like to interject for moment. What you're refering to as GNU/Linux is, in fact, just Linux, or as I've just now taken to calling it, Just.Linux. Linux apparently does happen to be a whole operating system unto itself and comprises a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Most computer users who run the entire Linux system every day already realize it. Through a peculiar turn of events, I was misled into calling the system "GNU/Linux", and until now, I was unaware that it is basically the Linux system, developed by the Linux project.

There really isn't a GNU/Linux, and I really wasn't using it; it is an extraneous misrepresentation of the system that's being used. Linux is the operating system: the entire system made useful by its included corelibs, shell utilities, and other vital system components. The kernel is already an integral part of the Linux operating system, never confined useless by itself; it functions coherently within the context of the complete Linux operating system. Linux is never used in combination with GNU accessories: the whole system is basically Linux without any GNU added, or Just.Linux. All the so-called "GNU/Linux" distributions are really distributions of Linux.
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>>52896155
dude stfu the meme is stale
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>>52896153
>AMD card?
I have a nvidia card

>>52896124
>reinstalling all nvidia driver related packages
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>>52896168
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you proprietary slave? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class at Harvard, and I’ve been involved in numerous free software projects, and I have contributed to over 300 core-utils for GNU. I am skilled in Lisp and I’m St. IGNU-cius, saint of the Church of Emacs. You are nothing to me but just another unethical non-free software advocate. I will distribute the fuck out of your source code with freedom the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit about me and the GPL on the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my colleagues at FSF and your binaries are being reversed engineered right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your copyright. You're fucking dead, kid. Free software can be anywhere, anytime, and it can ensure your freedom in over four ways, and that’s just with the GPLv2. Not only am I extensively skilled at C hacking, but I have access to the source of the entire GNU userland and core-utils and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable proprietary code off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what ethical retribution your little “clever” program was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have ensured your users' freedom. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit free as in freedom all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
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>>52896179
tl;dr
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>>52896170
https://steamcommunity.com/app/221410/discussions/1/882966056683308110/
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>>52896198
I ran
# pacman -S mesa lib32-mesa lib32-nvidia-libgl lib32-nvidia-utils libvdpau nvidia nvidia-libgl nvidia-utils

before rebooting
EVE in wine works just fine
cities: skylines works just fine, it seems to be limited to source games
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Haven't seriously used a linux distro since 2013. Going to use my X220 as a testbench to see if manjaro is worth installing on my T430. Will report back with screenshots. If I hate Manjaro ill probably go back to crunchbang++
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How hard is it to transition from Ubuntu to Archegos/Arch?

(Yes, I'm going to use Archegos because I'm a toddler who needs their hand held.)
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whats a good dock/launger to use?
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>>52896401
Antergos* fuck me
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Is anyone else having problems with local .swf files on firefox 44.0? Even tough I had changed the mime.types when I installed this system .swf files just stopped playing today. Can't find any information about it and mime.types are like they should be but just for some reason firefox won't open them.

Tried re-installing flash but even that was futile. Plz answer me.
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Why is this still a thing?
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>>52896401
Pretty easy. Actually Arch isn't too bad either, if you already know basic linux terminal commands from Ubuntu and know how to follow simple walkthrough guides.
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>>52889883
What's a good program for taking screenshots Other than gnome-screenshot?
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how do i access packages on the arch user repository?
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>>52896498
Shutter for selection boxes, scrot for full-screen.
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scrot
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>>52896505
Install yaourt.
If you really need your hand held, see: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-yaourt-to-easily-download-arch-linux-community-packages
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>>52896515
Meant for
>>52896498
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>>52896403
Plank or Docky
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>>52896525
ok i did that but when i try to install a package with yaourt console keeps printing
 Running makepkg as root is not allowed as it can cause permanent,
catastrophic damage to your system.
how do i make it allow me to run this as root?
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>>52896587
Don't run yaourt with sudo. Don't run it as root. Just type: yaourt packageName
Obviously replace packageName with the package you're looking for.
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>>52896602
ive been logged in as root because using sudo on my normal account doesnt accept my root password
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>>52896505
git clone <git clone address from aur>
makepkg -sri

or

install aur helper (yaourt, pacaur etc)
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>>52896610
well, you can't run makepkg as root, so you've got to fix your shit.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Users_and_Groups
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>>52896610
>using sudo on my normal account doesnt accept my root password

You need to input your current user password, not root password.
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>>52896610
You can't run yaourt as sudo. And you need to add your main account in the sudo config file.
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>>52896631
i tried both it didnt work. do i need to set up a special sudo password?
>>
So I'm trying to install arch (again) and when the command-line opens it gets fluded with USB errors. I cannot set anything up and cannot read because of the error spam. Is there some command that I can use to block these out?
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>>52896641
You need to add your username to the sudo config file.
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>>52896644
try control+c
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>>52896648
>>52896641
You were supposed to have done this during installation.
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>>52896649
No the error messages aren't that quick. I can type and stuff but when trying to read stuff the scrolling of the command line blocks it out.
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>>52896648
Or take a group (wheel for example) and then just uncomment the line from /etc/sudoers

usermod -aG wheel youruser

Uncomment line 82 from /etc/sudoers


>>52896657
It doesnt matter when you do it.
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>>52896673
Doesn't matter when you do it, but the wiki recommends doing it right after creating the username.
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Can anyone atleast confirm my problem so that I know it's not just me?

t.>>52896452
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>>52896393
It seem's to have hung on the resizing of the partitions. That's not a good thing.
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>>52896742
The hatred for Manjaro is swelling within me, why did I choose this shitty distro.
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>>52896587
did you install fakeroot?
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>>52896673
>usermod -aG wheel youruser
gpasswd -a user group
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>>52896742
>It seem's to have hung on the resizing of the partitions. That's not a good thing.

Probably should let it finish.

You didn't move any partition, did you, because then if that fails, you'll lose all of the data on your HDD.
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>>52896756
>The hatred for Manjaro is swelling within me, why did I choose this shitty distro.

DESU Antergos has one of the buggiest installers I've ever used.
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>>52896742
>hung
>same partition size
looks like it's moving the partition for some reason
and moving partitions takes A LOT of time

>manjaro
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I have to rename my ethernet connection on my laptop to eth0.
What is the best / safest way to do this
Should I make a udev rule or is there a way to tell systemd to fuck off on this specific part? (Only have one Ethernet on my laptop and that will not change)
>>
So I tried installing Steam for Debian following the instructions on https://wiki.debian.org/Steam and on #4 (installing 32-bit OpenGL libraries) my x230 gave me the ol' " :( error..." and nothing would start.

I ended up reinstalling the whole OS cause I couldn't figure how to fix it and it was unusable. Now I'm not so sure I should try installing again cause I've riced and everythings running smooth.

Anyone know how I mightve fucked up and if its worth risking trying to install Steam again?
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>>52896452
>>52896704
I can confirm it's not just you, I had that problem too.
I can't remember what I did to fix it though. There was something kinda weird with flash IIRC.

I'd look on my desktop, but I can't get at it now. I'll see if I have anything here.
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>>52897276
You are doing gods work anon. Thank you in advance.
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>>52896452
>>52896704
>>52897276
Now I remember. Make a file called ".mime.types" in your home directory. Put this in it (with a newline at the end):
application/x-shockwave-flash       swf swfl

Reboot Firefox (and maybe the computer too?).
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>>52897334
Wait, shit. It sounds like you've already done that. Sorry.

Fuck Flash.
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>>52896602
But then it will bitch it can't access /bin and other shit where it tries to install the package?
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>>52897347
Well shit. Looks like this ain't going to be solved in a while.
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>>52889883
I just installed arch and got it to the DE
but for some reason i cant get it to run gnome terminal
any terminal recommendations?
any idea why fucking terminal won't work?
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>>52897658
did you configure locale properly?
try running from a tty and look for any errors
# switch to tty Ctrl+Alt+F2
$ DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal
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>>52897712
>did you configure locale properly?
idk I think so
firefox and whatever cinnamons file manager is works just fine
when i run that command I get
 unable to init server" could not connect: connection refused
failed to parse arguments: cannot open display:

im pretty sure that's just because im trying to run it from a different desktop though
>>
I'm following the guide here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF

when I put
qemu-system-x86_64 \
-enable-kvm \
-m 2048 \
-cpu host,kvm=off \
-vga none \
-device vfio-pci,host=01:00.0 \
-drive if=pflash,format=raw,readonly,file=/usr/share/edk2.git/ovmf-x64/OVMF_CODE-pure-efi.fd \
-drive if=pflash,format=raw,file=/tmp/my_vars.fd

into the terminal, I get
qemu-system-x86_64: -device vfio-pci,host=01:00.0: vfio: error: no such host device: /sys/bus/pci/devices/0000:01:00.0/
qemu-system-x86_64: -device vfio-pci,host=01:00.0: Device initialization failed



$ lspci -nn|grep -iP "NVIDIA|Radeon"
05:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Juniper XT [Radeon HD 5770] [1002:68b8]
05:00.1 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series] [1002:aa58]
06:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 [GeForce GTX 660 Ti] [10de:1183] (rev a1)
06:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GK104 HDMI Audio Controller [10de:0e0a] (rev a1)


$ dmesg | grep -i vfio
[ 1.206464] VFIO - User Level meta-driver version: 0.3
[ 1.220712] vfio_pci: add [1002:6719[ffff:ffff]] class 0x000000/00000000
[ 1.220719] vfio_pci: add [1002:aa80[ffff:ffff]] class 0x000000/00000000
[ 1.220725] vfio_pci: add [10de:0392[ffff:ffff]] class 0x000000/00000000
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>>52897764
well, from what i can see you should put either 05:00.0 or 06:00.0 as host= for vorwarding, depends on which card do you want to forward?
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>>52895876
Well I finally figured out how to cross compile properly,
mips-linux-gnu-gcc -EB -march=24kc -static helloworld.c -o helloworld
because this gives me a fatal error saying the kernel's too old instead of random errors, so now it's just a matter of either updating the kernel or finding a Linux 2.6 MIPS toolchain. The toolchain in AMD64 Debian requires Linux 3.2 or higher, I'm going to see if it's any different in the MIPS32 repository
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>>52897781
I want the AMD card for the VM, I figured 05:00.0 would work
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>>52897712
>>52897740
wait I re did the locale and it worked
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>>52889883
How do I turn wireless on?
when I run "ip link set wlan0 up" i get:
Cannot find device "wlan0'
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How do I install debian without a monitor?
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>>52898038
serial port
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>>52898021
paste every piece of nonfree wireless firmware you can find into /lib/firmware
if that doesn't work update the kernel
if that doesn't work just pretend you prefer not to use wireless

maybe reboot it a couple of times
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>>52898062
how do I update my kernel?
where can I find firmware?
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>>52898107
it's a joke

tell us the output of 'lspci | grep Network' and that might help
>>
I'm on Antergos and just did a fresh install after the Konsole of KDE broke. I'm currently using Cinnamon.

How do I put Firefox on the desktop? Chromium is the default included browser and I can't get firefox to be mentioned in the internet options tab; I just have to run it through the terminal. Also since using this DE, literally everything I type gets the red underline for a typo. Why?
>>
>>52898117
 02:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 [Condor Peak]
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 1000 BGN
Kernel driver in use: iwlwifi
Kernel modules: iwlwifi
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>>52898128
>using cinnamon
everything made by Mint is shit. Consider changing your DE.
>>
So guys I'm getting rid of Ubuntu and installing a different distro, mainly for programming and posting on /g/.

I'm looking at several different options: Fedora, Korora, Solus, openSUSE, and Manjaro. What would you guys recommend? Korora looks interesting, Solus looks pretty, Manjaro is easymode Arch, openSUSE looks nice, and Fedora is Fedora.
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>>52898128
Is there a *.desktop file for it in /usr/share/applications?
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>>52898147
Fuck, I literally just changed. I'm just going to go back to Gnome, then. It werked and I got curious and have been fucking up.
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>>52898156
Yes, and I realized what to do from there. Thank you for helping me; now I have learned something.

The Arch forums would tell me 1.) I'm on the wrong forums because I have Antergos and that's not real Arch and
2.) I'm being a help vampire and need to figure it out on my own.
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>>52897808
Any way to fix this?
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
gcc-mips-linux-gnu : Depends: gcc-5-mips-linux-gnu (>= 5.2.1-13cross1) which is a virtual package and is not provided by any available package.
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>>52898184
Well Antegros is not Arch.
You can't expect someone to provide a support for a modified version of one's product.
Anyway, use the wiki: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Desktop_entries
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>>52898021
>>52898132
found the solution
just run ls /sys/class/net to find the wireless device name (wlp2s0 for whatever reason) then start it by running ip link set wlp2s0 up
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>>52898226
Stop using Debian.
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>>52898305
There aren't too many MIPS32 operating systems that support the CI20, I'm just using Debian till the NetBSD port solidifies anyway
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>>52898340
Use Loongson instead of MIPS.
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>>52898355
Loongson CPUs are MIPS dumbass
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>>52898391
>>52898355
What are you saying to use Loongson operating systems? Yeah that won't work either. Loongson's processors are MIPS64.
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>>52898391
MIPS64 > MIPS32, even Herr Stallman uses it.
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>>52889883
how the fuck do I connect to a wireless network in arch?
I followed this video but when i got to starting the profile i get
 Job for netctl@-etc-netctl-wlp2s0\x2dPotato\x20V1s.service failed because the control process exited with error code. See "systemctl status "netctl@-etc-netctl-wlp2s0\\x2dPotato\\x20V1s.service"" and "journalctl -xe" for details. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=betuunCBNUA
>>
Can notify-send take input from the output of another command?
>for end result as
notify-send $(cal -3mw)
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>>52898445
Well yes, but this board is MIPS32.
>>
How to send output of
> cal -3mw
to notify-send
?
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>>52898340
Use Gentoo.
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>>52898542
Doesn't sound like much of a joy on a dual core SBC
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>>52889883
couldn't find a /sqt/ so here i go

i've been using xmonad for like almost 2 years, but mostly vanilla xmonad with tmux.

is there any guide to customise xmonad? i never really felt the need to do it, but maybe it can improve the effiiency of my workflow somehow

any resource/tips? (i dont know haskell btw)
>>
Thoughts on MINIX 3 and microkernels like GNUmach in Debian/HURD?
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>>52898657
>GNU
>Kernel
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>
>>52898657
Minix and hurd are both awesome but they need more time and development. Minix self repair is probably one of the most interesting ideas.
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