https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIRqB5iqWA8
>you just KNOW
>>52698782
They'll launch for Mars on 2025, or do they plan to launch in the coming years and land there by 2025?
He seems to have a bit of a gut.
And I want to smell her knee-pits.
Bravo Elon
>>52699240
>He seems to have a bit of a gut
Who needs abs when you have hair?
Why doesn't his company do something useful instead.
>>52700638
>floating people off earth into the deep darkness isn't useful
I don't care if it's gonna be 2025 or 2035 - the important part is colonizing Mars before it's too late and we desperately need people like Musk to get the ball rolling. Remember that scene in SG1 where space MacGyver's like "I can save these people!! ...Help me!" and Teal'c is like "Many have said that." *turns around and shoots Jaffa* "But you are the first I believe could do it!"? That's exactly how I feel about Musk.
>>52700638
Why be useful when you can be awesome instead?
>>52698782
I hope he just dies.
>>52698782
too bad we will never hear back from the people going there though
Have they solved the problem of having to feed people for over half a year before they even land on Mars?
>tfw shooting Redditors into space for our entertainment
This guy isn't bad at all.
where is the money in going to mars? hes gonna spend billions just because its a cool mission?
>>52700779
he wants to return home
>>52700715
me too, he's just a huge faggot
>>52700752
lol send african astronauts, they will survive for 4 years eating air.
>>52700779
Of what monetary value was it to go to the moon?It t just allowed us to wave our dicks higher than the Russians.
>>52700779
You pay for a return ticket, think of it as extended vacation.
>>52698782
Sounds like bullshit. He may transport human feces to Mars but I doubt he'll transport living humans there.
>>52700715
If I had to decide who's to die and who's gonna live, and I had to be absolutely honest, Musk would survive any scenario that doesn't leave me or my parents/siblings dead. Most people don't seem to 'get' him and his ideas (his weirdness during interviews certainly doesn't help) - but I do, and I'll be damned if he isn't one of the most important people that ever lived.
They should really transport some mice there first. If you can get the mice there, and perhaps terraform a tiny enclosed patch of Martian land to sustain them, then you're golden.
>>52700848
wow look! /g/ has a genius! we shouls spend billions to send a fucking mice to fucking mars just to make sure we can repeat the same shit with humans!
>>52700877
Who is "we"?
Reminder that the first beings in space were animals. You don't want to send humans to certain death.
>>52700891
we as species.
No animals were sent to the moon so there's no reason to send dumb mices to mars, all the variables are already known, we just need some time.
>>52700877
>>52700891
AFAIK the plan is to find a bunch of volunteers who'd go to Mars w/o return ticket (we'll send supplies and a return-ship eventually). Or at least that's one possibility. And it's not like we didn't already land a huge-ass robot there using a goddamn rocket-crane so I'd say sending a bunch of mice would be a step back. Also, we know the atmosphere and radiation levels, so it's a calculated risk, albeit a pretty high one...
>>52700935
SpaceX's funds are not my funds.
>No animals were sent to the moon
Because the transfer was simple and easy to correct. The astronauts could do it by hand provided they were given constant guidance. With the Mars transfer being so precise, one small thrust or telemetry fault, or one small bug in the flight control software, can have you millions of miles off course. At that point, due to the deviation amplification spiral (i.e. the aforementioned problem isn't just going to go away), the humans may never be able to return to Earth.
Think about the fact that not every Mars orbiter makes it there. That's due to tiny little maneuver errors.
>>52701015
are your fucking stupid? even indians sent shit to mars, it's relatively easy to get there nowadays.
>>52701015
And how would sending mice help exactly ? We've sent large payloads to Mars already so it's really not about experience.
>>52700811
Being able to do that was far more important.
Holy shit man, Elon sounds like a typical basement dweller first time on stage, he can't complete one sentence without eh, uh, oh, eh, uh ,oh
This is the first time i've seen him talk, is he always like this?
>>52701131
>can't poo in the loo
>sent shit to mars
Why Mars? This is stupid and will contribute nothing to Earth's economy
>>52698782
They can't even vertically land a rocket yet.
>>52701749
Go ahead then, point to the object that will bring us a new economic paradigm
>>52701787
the Moon... man
>>52701751
you wot m8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANv5UfZsvZQ
>>52701588
>Indians are shitting in Mars too
>>52700811
>Of what monetary value was it to go to the moon?
Silicon Valley was largely grown from the expertise that was created by NASA in the 60's/70.
USA would barely have a tech industry if it wasn't for the moon missions.
>>52701749
Because fuck Earth, we need to leave and colonize other planets.
But leave the niggers and SJW's back on earth though.
>>52701914
Literally, I mean literally, reddit: the post
>>52701914
m8, Earth is pretty dope. We should fix it, rather than run away. Look at how much fertile land is wasted on niggers in Africa, we should colonize it
>>52698782
Wait. They don't even do manned launches.
>>52701709
He's an engineer not a salesman
>>52698782
I just realized I'd never seen or heard the man speak
He's terrible at it
>>52702019
not even that
>>52702019
>>52702038
Elon Musk is literally an "ideas guy"
He also happens to have had a really good idea so now he has enough money to make those ideas a reality, which is pretty cool
>>52700692
>the important part is colonizing Mars before it's too late
Implementing some sort of population growth control on Earth seems like it should be a priority in this day and age but no one even talks about that shit. I'm not advocating for mass exterminations or anything but just limiting people to 1 child per person (so 2 per couple) seems like it would be a great idea that would pay dividends 50+ years down the road.
>>52702063
He's a lot more than an 'ideas guy'
>>52700831
Hi, Elon!
I want to rub my face on Kristie's pantyhose.
I never really understood the hateboner some people have for Musk. Is it just the typical neckbeard faggotry known as cynicism ? I expected more from a board dedicated to technology.
>>52698782
When does he say it?
Don't want to watch the whole thing
>>52702195
~27:50
>>52700692
>I don't care if it's gonna be 2025
It's gonna be 2025
>>52702078
Awful idea.
Western countries birth rates are lowering all the time. Why don't we just exterminate all Muslims and blacks instead? They never do anything useful anyways, and their birth rates are the highest of all ethnicities.
>>52702310
Which is why it would have to be a worldwide effort, but that'll never fly because various cultures and religions don't allow birth control and actively encourage high birth rates.
>>52702310
Muslims and blacks aren't ethnicities.
>>52698782
>make the date far enough away so no one can hold you accountable
Fuck snake oil sales man. All he does is take US money, buys already made Soviet rockets for cheap, and pockets the cash.
>>52702527
>>52702285
You're legitimately, the perfect stereotype.
>>52702527
https://my.teslamotors.com/zh_MO/forum/forums/i-always-deliver-what-i-say-just-maybe-not-time-frame-i-say-it-elon-musk?page=1&redirect=no
>>52700747
underrated
>>52698782
I've fallen for so much 'By XXXX we will be Y' and I've decided I am not going to fall for this one.
He should land more than one rocket without it exploding first.
>>52700692
I don't get the obsession with colonizing Mars to "save" ourselves. If we have the technology to terraform Mars then certainly we can fix whatever environmental issues there are on Earth.
>>52700990
The difference between a one way and round trip isn't enough to leave humans on Mars. A manned mission to Mars will cost almost a trillion dollars. What would it be if they didn't return? Half a trillion?
>>52698782
elon more like eat-on
fatass
lol
>implying a person would start experiencing DNA mutations because of radiation within days of entering Mars.
I bet there will be many whiling to waste their life just to go see hur hur Mars
>>52703462
I'm assuming it's a propellant problem. Too expensive/impossible to haul enough propellant to Mars so whatever rocket they have on the surface can produce enough delta-v to launch from Mars.
>>52703499
lmao
>>52703549
>impossible to haul enough propellant to Mars
Nope.
It's easy to get off the Martian surface, the problem is landing. The thin atmosphere makes slowing down difficult. It's only very recently extensive tests of landing a rocket from orbit have been conducted. The Biglow/SpaceX rockets are potential Martian landers.
Rocket fuel could be made on Mars. All you need is water.
>>52702310
>Why don't we just exterminate all Muslims and blacks instead?
This. Just think of all that time and energy Hitler wasted on the jews
>>52704152
It's the Neoliberals who are the problem; they#re busy destroying the planet to turn a profit. And, they assure us this is fine, or it's not really happening.
They don't actually care because they will all be dead when the shit finally hits the fan.
http://theantimedia.org/stephen-hawking-warns-humanity-leave-earth-ruling-class-destroys/
>>52703223
Clearly, the issue lies with the population. It's easier to make a "perfect" society from scratch.
>>52702612
>>52700747
I volunteer as tribute.
>>52704081
Sounds like a gross simplification of the problem. I know I heard of automatic fuel factories on Mars decades ago to solve the returning home part. Sending enough fuel to Mars is of course not impossible. Just economically unfeasible.
>>52704335
What makes you think the problem wont follow you along to Mars?
>>52704390
I'm sure it will and it'll turn to shit as well but that'll take awhile.
>>52704356
Why do you think it's too expensive to place a fuel into orbit? Just a series of rocket launches would do it with our current heavy lift capability
Tranch three of the Space Launch System will be able to lift 150 metric tons into low Earth orbit. That's just a single launch. Or, it can send 70 metric tons straight from Earth's surface direct to Martian orbit.
>>52704456
>Why do you think it's too expensive to place a fuel into orbit? Just a series of rocket launches would do it with our current heavy lift capability
Because it's actually very expensive to launch stuff into space?
>Tranch three of the Space Launch System will be able to lift 150 metric tons into low Earth orbit. That's just a single launch. Or, it can send 70 metric tons straight from Earth's surface direct to Martian orbit.
Yes that's nice. Almost successfully recreating 60s tech half a century later. A shame the system doesn't exist outside the drawing board. It will be cancelled like every other expensive NASA project nowadays.
who is the qt?
>>52701914
I think we should leave people that use the term SJW and nigger behind aswell
>>52704523
>Because it's actually very expensive to launch stuff into space?
Relative to what?
A Delta IV Heavy rocket can place 30 tons of fuel into low Earch orbit for around $375 million.
> Almost successfully recreating 60s tech
The SLS is more advanced, and more capable, than the SaturnV. It's the first explorer class rocket; it can deliver a sizable payload, including people, anywhere in the solar system.
To the casual observer it resembles '60s tech, that's because NASA were producing technology that was decades ahead of its time.
> A shame the system doesn't exist outside the drawing board
Er... no, the SLS Block 1 passed its "Preliminary Design Review" in 2013 and its' "Key Decision Point C " in 2014. All the boosters already exist, they come direct from the Space Shuttle production line.
First launch is just two years away.
> It will be cancelled like every other expensive NASA project nowadays.
Let me guess... you vote Republican?
if elon musk sends us to mars then we dont even need socialism
>>52704950
Mars will be Socialist.
>>52703499
more like
k-on
>>52704928
>explorer class rocket
That sounds badass af
>>52698782
he should be investing in a cure for autism instead
>>52705200
I think we should be investing directly in autism
>>52705225
that's easy, you should just buy stocks in his stupid fucking companies.
>>52704928
>A Delta IV Heavy rocket can place 30 tons of fuel into low Earch orbit for around $375 million.
That sounds kind of expensive to me. Then you need to get the shit to Mars.
>The SLS is more advanced, and more capable, than the SaturnV. It's the first explorer class rocket; it can deliver a sizable payload, including people, anywhere in the solar system.
Block 2 will almost achieve what Saturn V achieved. Its purpose is to haul shit into space and then haul it further away using similar tech. I'll call it more advanced when we have fusion engines.
>First launch is just two years away.
That's nice but I believe it when I'll see it.
>Let me guess... you vote Republican?
Let me guess. You are retarded.
>>52705225
4chan is a cure for autism, in a way. on 4chan autists relentlessly bully each other to the point where they are completely unable to set foot outside their autism caves and/or end their lives
>>52698782
He's been saying that for years now. And his estimations are usually off, if everything they plan to do works as they want I expect them to send the first people to Mars by the 2031 opposition.
>>52705657
>That sounds kind of expensive to me
Relative to what? In terms of US GDP it isn't even a pin prick.
> Its purpose is to haul shit into space and then haul it further away using similar tech.
You can't change the laws of physics.
> I'll call it more advanced when we have fusion engines.
Nuclear pulse drives are 1950s tech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion)
>>52705657
>I'll call it more advanced when we have fusion engines
You sure have a good grasp of technological advancement there, buddy.
>>52702078
Capitalism won't allow it. It demands continual economic growth which demands continual population growth.
If the demand stabilizes profit can't be made. Population growing means demand increases. The west can sustain growth while its population doesn't grow because the demand in developing countries is increasing as is their population. We can only halt population increase if capitalism seizes to be.
>>52705832
>Relative to what? In terms of US GDP it isn't even a pin prick.
What economical advantages can you see in sending a bunch of retards to Mars?
>You can't change the laws of physics.
Slap a modern guidance system on a rocket and achieve the exact same thing as 60s tech is modern rocket technology? OK. We just lifted slightly less into space than a 60s rocket did.
>Nuclear pulse drives are 1950s tech.
I'm not talking about Project Orion.
>>52705839
Installing a GPS into a 30 year old car doesn't somehow magically make it haul more shit.
>>52702310
Middle east doesn't have that high birth rates m8
All while the west has the highest population density in the world.
>>52698782
yeah but they'll be sending a Diversity Crew™ so i doubt there will be any long term success.
>>52705947
>All while the west has the highest population density in the world.
100% Complete bullshit.
>>52700638
Why should he?
>>52705933
However, tweaking and improving the engine can make the car haul more shit. Not significantly more, but definitely more than your fancy new drive that doesn't even exist in prototypes yet will be hauling for a couple of decades. Technology is not just about new stuff, but also about improving old stuff. (By the way, I'm talking more about rockets in general, not the SLS alone)
>>52706021
I will be amazed when it actually outperforms Saturn V.
>>52701938
>We should fix it
How?
>>52705987
Europe has the highest population density in the world mate. Africa doesn't come near it.
The middle east is actually one of the poorest regions in population. An area bigger than Europe with only less than 400 million people.>>52705997
>>52705922
This.
>>52706083
>Europe has the highest population density in the world mate
Absolute bullshit.
>>52705978
>black guy steals food rations
>indian guy poos everywhere but the loo
>asian women crashes the rover
>muslim guy prays all day every day
>everyone dies after a few days
>>52701846
He meant vertically 'land' it
>>52704390
no refugees for one.
>>52706132
It does?
>>52706132
That video shows a landing.
>>52706123
>>52706130
So funny.Upvoted
>>52705933
>What economical advantages can you see in sending a bunch of retards to Mars?
You see the thing you're typing on right now? It was first commissioned by NASA to send "retards" to the Moon.
The first microcomputer was required by NASA as a flight control system for the Saturn V, they commissioned IBM to make it happen. There was no commercial demand for such a device.
>Slap a modern guidance system on a rocket and achieve the exact same thing as 60s tech is modern rocket technology
Are you Russian?
Rocketdyne's F1 engine is obsolete, newer generations of rocket engine are far superior, in terms of efficiency and performance.
>I'm not talking about Project Orion.
You mean fusion rockets rather than pulse drives? Nuclear rockets are 1960s tech.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_thermal_rocket
>Installing a GPS into a 30 year old car doesn't somehow magically make it haul more shit.
Upgrading the engine does.
>>52706219
>>52706229
Its not landing though.Its just reducing the impact
>>52706123
>>52706297
Reduce your autism
>>52706327
looks like china/india have it beat.
>>52701751
"They" could vertically land a rocket 25 years ago.
The McDonnell Douglas DELTA CLIPPER was being tested in the late 1980s.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzXcTFfV3Ls
>>52698782
SpaceX is nice and all, but I'm surprised he still believes (or pretends to believe) that in nine years, he'll have his big motherfucking rocket to colonize Mars.
>>52705839
fusion would fuel free hydrogen production -> cheap flights
I have to say that Tesla & Space X are the only morally good companies that I've ever known. I would donate money if I didn't know that it would make no difference to them.
The sad reality of it is that if Elon Musk dies or their business plan collapses, we won't get another chance again.
>>52700779
he's saving us before we kill each other on earth, he's thinking ahead
>>52700779
Resources. Mining operations in space have a huge monetary potential.
>>52700779
I think that it will be heavily subsidized by NASA since they have a similar mission plan and are pushing for commercializing space operations.
The only thing that spacex is good for is watching rockets explode
>>52706541
They are also entirely unfeasible
>>52706546
Most of SpaceX's funding comes from NASA, already.
>>52706277
>You see the thing you're typing on right now? It was first commissioned by NASA to send "retards" to the Moon.
ENIAC's purpose was to send people into space? I never knew.
>The first microcomputer was required by NASA as a flight control system for the Saturn V, they commissioned IBM to make it happen. There was no commercial demand for such a device.
Well a German guy was way ahead of NASA without having to send people into space.
>Are you Russian?
Are you retarded?
>Rocketdyne's F1 engine is obsolete, newer generations of rocket engine are far superior, in terms of efficiency and performance.
It's still the most powerful engine in its class ever developed. I'm still waiting for SLS to reinventing existing tech.
>You mean fusion rockets rather than pulse drives? Nuclear rockets are 1960s tech.
Can you link me to this fusion rocket manufactured in the 1960s? I think you should call up the ITER guys because they obviously missed that the tech already exists.
>Upgrading the engine does.
After upgrading the engine the car can suddenly carry less cargo. Is it still an upgrade in performance? Is the cargo improved somehow by being transported in a vehicle with an upgraded engine that perform worse than the old engine?
>>52706567
For now. With enough resources and technology, there's nothing standing in the way of a space mining colony.
>>52706567
>They are also entirely unfeasible
Unfeasible?
Travelling to an asteroid isn't outside the realm of Newtonian Physics. There are many near Earth objects that spectral observations have releved to contain millions of tons of metals.
>>52698782
>travelling in anything build by Elon 'brace for impact' Musk
>>52702019
>Even Elon Musk fell for the engineering meme
>>52706588
>ENIAC
You think ENIAC was a microcomuter?
hehe
>Well a German guy was way ahead of NASA without having to send people into space.
Are you suggesting the V2's gyroscopic flight control system is sufficent for modern space flight?
hehe
>F1... It's still the most powerful engine in its class ever developed
You do realize you don't need an F1 to get into low Earth orbit?. There was no need to develop a more powerful rocket motor until there was a committment to return to interplanetary space flight. The new Dynetics F1-B is more powerful, btw.
Out of curiosity, why do you insist on clinging to 50 year old rocket designs?
>Can you link me to this fusion rocket manufactured in the 1960s
Manufactured?
They were outlawed under the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty.
> I think you should call up the ITER guys because they obviously missed that the tech already exists.
Do you know what a hydrogen bomb is? It's a fusion bomb.
>after upgrading the engine the car can suddenly carry less cargo
Wut?
>>52706826
>You think ENIAC was a microcomuter?
I don't know what a microcomuter is.
>Are you suggesting the V2's gyroscopic flight control system is sufficent for modern space flight?
I'm suggesting you are fucking stupid and don't know the history of modern computing.
>You do realize you don't need an F1 to get into low Earth orbit?. There was no need to develop a more powerful rocket motor until there was a committment to return to interplanetary space flight. The new Dynetics F1-B is more powerful, btw.
F1 remains the most powerful engine ever developed. I can draw a dick on paper and claim the rocket dick is twice as powerful as the F1 rocket. That doesn't mean the rocket dick actually exists.
And you do realize you need as much delta-v as possible to haul idiots like you to Mars? Kind of what Saturn V can do.
>Out of curiosity, why do you insist on clinging to 50 year old rocket designs?
Because it's the most powerful engine ever developed apparently still outperforming all competition. Why do you opt for mediocre solutions?
>Do you know what a hydrogen bomb is? It's a fusion bomb.
Wooosh. Do you know that you have no fucking clue about what you are talking about?
>Wut?
It's what your shill launch system will achieve.
>>52706973
Reddit ksp player spotted
>>52700779
you can create a big hype in stocks.
that's where the money lies.
>>52706327
Looks like East Asia has a higher population density.
But most importantly, the population growth rate of Europe is sustainable, while Nigeria will have half a billion people by 2050.
>>52706973
>I don't know what a microcomputer is.
You're using one right now.
>I'm suggesting you are fucking stupid and don't know the history of modern computing.
I have an Msc in Computer Science.
>F1 remains the most powerful engine ever developed.
It's an old design which has been surpassed by the new Dynetics rocket motor design. Rocket technology has moved on over the past 50 years...
>Because it's the most powerful engine ever developed apparently still outperforming all competition
Er.. competition? No one has initiated an interplanetary space program. There is no "competition". The Apollo program ended, that's why the Saturn V was retired,
>Wooosh. Do you know that you have no fucking clue about what you are talking about?
What do you think a hydrogen bomb is?
I can enlighten you... it's known as the H-Bomb. It uses a nuclear fission bomb (like the one they dropped on Hiroshima) as a "trigger" to fuse Hydrogen and deuterium, for a much bigger bang.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermonuclear_weapon#Basic_principle
>>52707438
>You're using one right now.
I'm certainly not using a micro comuter. I do use a digital computer. Which a German guy kind of invented way before NASA.
>I have an Msc in Computer Science.
So does that include computer history? I guess not since you still don't get it. Oh and since we are flaunting around title I have a ph.d in engineering physics. I guess that makes me an expert on rockets then.
>It's an old design which has been surpassed by the new Dynetics rocket motor design. Rocket technology has moved on over the past 50 years...
And yet Saturn V outperforms it. The topic in this thread is getting to fucking Mars. Not some fucking getting shit to LEO.
>Er.. competition? No one has initiated an interplanetary space program. There is no "competition". The Apollo program ended, that's why the Saturn V was retired,
OK so you admit the best rocket to get to Mars is still Saturn V. Good we agree.
>What do you think a hydrogen bomb is?
Why are you so fucking retarded? My point is obviously going so far above your head I've just achieved LEO.
>>52707438
>>52708119
This much dickwaving requires evidence.
>>52708119
>I'm certainly not using a micro computer.
You are indeed using a microcomputer
> I do use a digital computer.
As opposed to..?
hehe
>So does that include computer history? I
Yes, it's in the introduction to computer science.
> Oh and since we are flaunting around title I have a ph.d in engineering physics.
Says the person who didn't know what a H-bomb was...
heh
>And yet Saturn V outperforms it
Er... no. The SLS will surpass the Saturn V.
>OK so you admit the best rocket to get to Mars is still Saturn V.
There are no Saturn Vs in development.
>my point is obviously going so far above your head
I suggest you take a course in basic physics.
>>52698782
>>52701749
>>52703549
>>52704356
>>52704523
>>52705657
How and why SpaceX will colonize Mars:
http://waitbutwhy.com/2015/08/how-and-why-spacex-will-colonize-mars.html
>>52708259
An MSc is no biggie, it's just a post graduate degree. You do need to know about CS to be awarded one, of course.
>>52708344
He's just being an anal twat about the way you spelled computer as comuter for christ sakes.
>>52708371
that's great. thanks for sharing.
unfortunately, it's a bit too long for the average space hating retard.
is it realistically possible for some out of shape hungry skeleton NEET to go to mars in 10 years?
>>52704390
we'll have thousands of years to worry about that instead of worrying about it right now
instead of worrying about colonizing mars.....
shouldn't we be asking what the fuck are we doing to be doing on mars?
work?
we can do work all fucking day right here on earth.
mars us a relic, a dead planet, time would be better spent exploring the oceans of earth and the uncharted lands covered in ice or dense forests.
space exploration on a big ass space station, now that's a better plan than trying to figure out how to live on mars. our current space station is small as fuck and old, we need to improve on that end first before a suicide mission to mars.
>>52698782
When will he be able to bring them back?
>>52708344
>You are indeed using a microcomputer
>As opposed to..?
You are a bit slow so see >>52708438
>Yes, it's in the introduction to computer science.
Well it appears you were asleep since you haven't heard about Konrad Zuse.
>Says the person who didn't know what a H-bomb was...
You still don't get it? I never ever talked about a fucking fusion bomb in the first place. But then you are a code monkey so I don't expect much from you in the first place.
>Er... no. The SLS will surpass the Saturn V.
My penis rocket already surpasses everything.
>There are no Saturn Vs in development.
Obviously not because stupid people demagnetized the schematics. They probably had a Msc in computer bullshit so they didn't understand the significance of what they were doing. Still doesn't detract there is no comparable rocket out there that beats its specs.
>I suggest you take a course in basic physics.
I suggest you stop being retarded.
>>52698782
A CEO says his company will be awesome.
Great.
>>52702038
>>52702063
>at the age of 24, he received a Bachelor of Science degree in physics at Penn's College of Arts and Sciences
Well, it's better than nowt.
SpaceX is a joke. Most of their space launches are failures, and full of problems. They're not sending anyone anywhere. Literally a meme company.
It's going to be difficult to get somebody to risk their life, to do nothing on Mars, and still nobody will care.
