My sister bought herself a Macbook Air, and it's given me my first chance to use a Macbook. I think it's actually pretty good. Why do some people on /g/ hate on it? Even I fucking did. The touchpad, screen, and keyboard are actually pretty good. It's very thin and light weight with a good aluminum build. I need a laptop that I can move around easily and take it to places that I might need it. I can get one of these for around 400 used, what is a good laptop for that or cheaper?
I'm currently using rn and the keyboard feels good, but I can tell that the quality isn't the best.
>>52695031
yeah, it looks good. that's the point of a macbook.
however, you'll find that the software selection is useless and it's almost impossible to carry around for the real portable use they advertise
get a used thinkpad for half that price and install gnu/linux
this guy does a good job of explaining, but i think he uses windows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFWJP5yCujw
they are all fine, airs are some of the better cost ratio ones you can get, but the screen resolution leaves much to be desired. but considering how many people jerk off to x series thinkpads which have the same resolution, whatever. (yes i realize $200 vs like $1200 is something to talk about).
the problem is you end up spending like fucking $2500-$3000 for a modern mbp, and the screen is nothing special anymore so that leaves you with the trackpad.
yes, the trackpad on these things is worth a premium, but only to a certain extent. i fucking love the trackpad on my 2011, but i spent like $2300 on this fucker and then later added my own ram and ssd upgrade
>>52695031
Its an apple product, thats why
>>52695096
>software selection is useless
>get a used thinkpad
Yeah you're fucking retarded.
now i now you're trolling
the screen on the macbook air is straight up garbage, and thats coming from a $1000 pc
>>52695096
why would you complain about the software of osx and then recommend fucking linux?
>>52695096
>you'll find that the software selection is useless
You realise it has almost exactly the same selection of software as GNU/Linux, right?
>>52695031
Stupid /g/ ebin maymay, basically.
>hurr overpriced
>implying ecosystem, build quality, and OS is free
>hurr macfags
>implying the behavior of fags you've never met should ever influence your personal selection of tool
>>52695096
Ignore this faggot.
Grab Homebrew (http://brew.sh) and you've basically got an in to almost any command line app you want.
There's a reason you see a lot of goddamn macintosh computers among software developers. They're solid UNIX workstations with a decent UI.
>>52695116
>>52695109
>>52695113
That guy is a classic of example of a redpilled /g/ user. Goes around parroting what he sees even though he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.
>>52695109
>>52695113
>>52695116
osx is a toy os faggots
you will literally never get any real work done with the bullshit restrictions apple put on you
THAT's why software selection sucks
now fuck off, you hipster homosexual cunts
>>52695145
>maximum damage control
>>52695145
Tell that to the millions of developers that use it day in and day out. There are literally no bullshit restrictions, you can compile and run anything you want and download anything you want. Do you honestly have any idea what you're talking about?
>>52695145
>restrictions
You mean code signing that can be trivially overridden by a radio button or holding shift once? Silly nigger.
>inb4 photoshopped security control panel
>>52695133
replied to from my thinkpad x201 where i do actual fucking programming work, not browse facebook and make node.js "apps" :)
>>52695031
> I need a laptop that I can move around easily
I don't understand why people point this out. It's not like they make laptops with CRTs in them anymore. Anything under 15 pounds is easy to move around.
>>52695031
Applel shills are pretty fucking active in this thread. Don't do it OP, you'd have to be an idiot.
>>52695163
Let me guess, you're unemployed at home doing programming "work" in C and Haskell and whatever other meme language is hot this month while people making node.js "apps" have a career?
>>52695163
You're using a laptop that's well over six years old. You're in no position to talk about actual fucking work :^)
>>52695176
>i cant afford it so theyre shills!
>>52695163
Calm down buddy, don't give yourself an aneurysm.
>>52695177
node.js "developer" detected
>>52695096
Yea I can agree.
>>52695109
I like Thinkpads but people always say they smell like ass lmao. Well, they are also quite heavy and etc.
>>52695112
Ohh ok. I'm trolling, yet you are the same faggot that goes around and tells people to install gentoo. Go fuck yourself, you autistic fuck.
>>52695187
i can definitely afford it.
why would i pay a premium to eat shit from my hands?
>>52695176
>>52695187
KEK
>>52695171
You're an idiot.
>>52695096
> software selection is useless
Yeah, it can't even run 90% games in the market. Complete utter garbage.
>>52695145
>you will literally never get any real work done with the bullshit restrictions apple put on you
Your Idea of "work" is ricing and shitposting on /g/. OS X is perfectly adequate for software development and other work, as is evidenced by the thousands of professionals that use a Mac.
>>52695228
>games
Opinion irrelevant.
>>52695031
>screen
>pretty good
Overall, this was a 4/10 shill attempt. You almost had us, but you goofed by calling that atrocity from 2011 "good".
>>52695031
buy a 2013 or newer. difference in battery life between haswell and previous models is tremendous and well worth any premium you pay
>>52695199
basement freetard "programmer" detected
I hear FOSS can really feed your family!
>>52695232
UBUNTU
HAHAHAHAH
OH MY GOD
HAHAHAHHAHAHAH
H-HOLY FUCKING SHIT
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA DUDE AN UBUNTU USER REPLIED TO ME
HAHAHAHAH
HAHAHHAHAHA DUDE
OH MY GOD MY FUKCING LUNGS
I CANT EVEN CONVEY THROUGH TEXT HOW HARD IM LAUGHING
ARE YOU LITERALLY 12 YEARS OLD OR WHAT KID????
HAHAHAHAH
FUCKING MANCHILDREN I SWEAR TO GOD
JUST INSTALL GENTOO ALREADY
>>52695236
>my when face you got memed on
>>52695239
Dude I'M NOT A SHILL. In fact i've always hated Apple and everything to do with them. Yes, the screen isn't the BEST but for shit posting and watching videos it isn't half bad.
>>52695228
>>>/v/
>>52695243
How much would a 2013 model cost?
>>52695260
TOP KEK
>>52695243
Air only?
I have a 2012 macbook pro and honestly never had any battery life issues. 6-8 hours is more than enough.
>>52695283
How is your laptop? As far as price and all of that now.
>mfw all these man children arguing over their preferred OS
>>52695305
install debian
>>52695266
I would argue that the best experience can only be felt only on your personal macbook. I have so much shortcuts that probably no one else would know.
>>52695283
>6-8 hours is more than enough.
no it's not lol
haswell air gets 16 hours
>>52695031
Look, the air is solid but the retina is godly, the display is on another level and it uses the same great build quality. The trackpad is even better because it has force touch, the processor and graphics are better and basically the same battery life.
Try getting a refurbished or used for better price.
>>52695326
Kinda confused but okay.
>>52695318
Install Fedora
>>52695266
>>52695236
HAHAHA GOTEM
Seriously thought both of you are either retarded or severely autistic
fug quoted wrong
>>52695349
The only thing you have is your moms cock in your mouth faggot.
>>52695352
I set my Trip as Anon just so I can be recognized easily as OP.
Well anyways what years are good?
>>52695373
Here >>52695376
>>52695227
>I can't lift 15 pounds effortlessly
Do you have trouble with grocery bags, changing tires, and college textbooks? I don't even work out and I can't imagine what it would be like to have trouble lifting 15lbs.
>macbook air
good value for the money especially because of dat build quality and dat battery life.
That being said you should go for a macbook pro if you're willing to spend the cash. More powerful and you get dat retina display. All of Apple's products are exceptionally well built and have a very "premium" feel to them but that feel does come at a price. I use Apple products everyday (2015 27" iMac, 2015 Macbook Pro, iPhone 6 and Apple Watch) but I'm not some shitty fanboy and I'll be the first one to tell you that you are paying a lot for the materials used and the insane build quality rather than hardware. That being said the entire Mac line is comprised of some very powerful machines that run extremely well due to the insanely optimized OS. The only Apple computers that aren't worth buying at this point are the Mac Mini and the new MacBook thing that has an Intel Core M in it and one fucking USB Type-C for $1300
also I can tell you that the MacBook pro has an amazing battery life. I took this off the charge at 8:00a.m. and used it all day at work, played some light vidya on it, and watched a shit ton of jewtube videos on and I'm still good to go for a few hours
>>52695352
Hell naw dude. They are all over $1,000, I don't have that much money. Especially after just finishing a build and buying a PS4
>>52695295
Still functions like new, looks like new externally. Never had any failures where apple is to blame. Been using it mainly since 2012. The only problem would be the overheating problem. Do some heavier computing, hit Tj max, and your thigh gets hot. The plastic cover between the monitor and main body has a lot of mini cracks too, which I think is caused by the blowing hot air.
>>52695352
>basically the same battery life
lol no
>>52695447
Thanks for explaining a bit dude.
They are kinda expensive desu.
>>52695437
Nope, I actually do all of that easily. I'm pretty good at fixing cars desu. I think your an idiot. How would you like having a 15 pound laptop in your bookbag, or having it on your stomach at night while your in bed. I haven't seen an idiot like you in a while, so just die faggot.
>>52695498
not a problem.
If you do get a macbook air make sure you get a model that has an SSD in it. The apple SSD's are the fastest SSD's in production right now.
the 2015 models have a 2GB/s read speed and a 1.25GB/s write speed. They're fucking insane.
>>52695145
>you will literally never get any real work done with the bullshit restrictions apple put on you
Don't know what you're talking about. There's usually a mac alternative for software. If there isn't I just need to run windows/linux in parallels.
If you're talking about installing software from outside the app store, it's literally one change you need to make in the system settings.
>>52695145
LOL
>>52695572
They are putting pcie ssds on macbook? Fuck i want that
>>52695437
>Do you have trouble with grocery bags
... I should get macbook air?
My back hurts after walking with more than 4kg of groceries.
>>52695572
Damn that is insane. I'm really considering one the price tag is kinda high for a newer 2015 model. I spent 660 on my desktop and I got
i5 3470
16GB of RAM
1TB HDD
EVGA 500W PSU
Zotac GTX 970
So spending more than that on a laptop is kinda insane, but it might be worth it.
>>52695563
> How would you like having a 15 pound laptop in your bookbag, or having it on your stomach at night while your in bed.
15 pounds in a book bag would be light compared to the textbooks I had when I was at college. A 15 pound laptop would be built like a tank so I'd appreciate the fact I could do whatever I wanted to my bookbag and not worry about damaging the laptop.
15 pounds on your stomach is nothing. A transmission on your stomach is a little uncomfortable but not a laptop. There's no way you can change a tire and not be able to effortlessly handle any laptop that is currently made.
>>52695691
LMAO! You don't put a transmission on your stomach. Changing a tire is 3 minutes not the hours that you might have to carry a laptop. We can all agree that your a ignorant faggot.
>>52695678
If you have trouble with groceries you should definitely get something light.
>>52695691
This
>>52695031
>Why do some people on /g/ hate on it? Even I fucking did.
that's because you are a bunch of retards hating on something you never used.
>>52695751
I use Macs all the time. I never used the laptops though.
>>52695437
I'm 110lbs, I struggle with lifting most things
>>52695781
Damn how tall are you? I'm 5'9 120 lbs.
Currently in boxing training.
>>52695266
I apologize for calling you a shill. It just seems like a shill type of post. I mean, there's always a Mac thread everyday.
I'll be real with you. The 11 inch air starts at $1100 here (Canada), yet a cheap $200 Windows laptop (Asus x205ta) has a screen just as good as it, minus the matte coating.
When you get to battery life, the Dell XPS 13 1080 model gets more than both the 11 and 13 inch Macbook air, while having a much better screen, no bezels, and a smaller overall size. They are completely overpriced for what they offer. You could argue the trackpad is better, and it is. But compared to the XPS, its not worth paying even a $50 premium for. The XPS has a trackpad that is 95% as good as the pros (the only Macbook I've spent more than a month with, so I'm using it as a comparison).
>>52695678
Yup. All of the new MacBooks have them except for the non retina MacBook Pro
>>52695461
That hinge issue and heating issue is definitely something you can blame Apple for.
>>52695729
>LMAO! You don't put a transmission on your stomach.
You do when you change one without a jack. You put the thing on top of you and bench press it while your buddy bolts it in.
But you seriously can change a tire but can't effortlessly lift 15 pounds for a day? My backpack weighed at least thirty in university and I carried it miles every day. I've hiked 5 miles in a day with a 70 rucksack. I'm not fit at all.
>>52695809
forgot to add a pic.
>>52695447
Kek, Windows is more efficient than OS X. It's not optimized worth shit, and it constantly breaks WiFi with every new update.
Also, Apple computers have a very high rate of failure (just look up all the logic board issues). Build quality is only perceived. It isn't actually any better than other similarly priced laptops. In some cases worse, as some oems use carbon fiber these days, which is leagues ahead of aluminum. Then there's the business laptops, which are made of magnesium and shit.
>>52695790
5'5
I thought I was thin but you must be skeletal with that BMI
They're not bad machines, just not worth the money.
If they cost at least 25% less than they do, I'd consider owning one.
>>52695801
NP bro, and Thanks for acknowledging that. Yea there always is dude and I hate them, but I did truly have a question.
Are does cheapo laptops any good? Might be good enough for what I need it for.
Dell XPS are great laptops, I like the older ones, pretty cheap actually for the specs.
>>52695572
You mean Samsung SSDs that Apple uses are really fast. Iirc, Dell has also started using them in the new XPS laptops and business/gaming shit.
And yeah, they're incredible. Apple got that shit right for being the first to use them commercially.
Also, side note, fucking oled displays in laptops are a thing now! Fucking HP and Dell! Who would have thought those dinosaurs would step up and be first.
>>52695889
Naw I'm actually not that bad. I could gain more weight but for boxing that really isn't of much importance.
>>52695899
>>52695914
This.
>>52695833
What is the point of that? If your fixing cars a jack is a fucking must. M8 that is easy, I dare you to walk in the fucking mountains, I hiked for like 6km or more in the forest of the highest mountain in Cuba. Shit is fucking crazy, I'll post a pic in a second.
>>52695903
It's really good if you want long battery life, browse the web, and use office (minus huge spreadsheets of course). I get 10 hours a charge out of mine, and its small and light, so carrying to and from school with all my books is easy. And it's cheap, so getting a few scratches or anything isn't anything I worry about. It honestly depends on which cheap laptop you pick. There are some good ones and bad ones. I'd wholeheartedly recommend the Asus x205ta though.
I agree. XPS stuff is great. I haven't gotten one yet, though I've been planning to. Just waiting for next year to see if they include more than one USB C port. Right now its 2 USB 3.1, and 1 USB C, and I want the reverse of that for future proofing.
>>52695914
if they drop a MacBook with an oled display this year I'm gonna buy it. The oled display on my apple watch is fucking great.
>>52695833
>>52695993
Yep, its why I've always bought Samsung phones. They get the most important part fight, the screen. Been enjoying amoled for the past 5 years. Love it.
>>52695989
You own the ASUS one correct?
>>52695989
I'm gonna shit post, browse the web, watch YouTube vids, and maybe mess around with some Linux installs.
>>52696027
if they do drop one with an oled in the next 30 days I'll return my current MacBook Pro (just bought it last week to replace my old 2011 macbook pro) and exchange it for the new model. More than likely they're not going to do it though because the retina display is still fucking GOAT. If anything they'll drop a fully 4k rMBP but I wouldn't want that desu because I already have a 5k iMac and honestly its not THAT much better than what's already on the MacBook Pro. Don't get me wrong, It's REALLY fucking nice on the 27" iMac but on a 13" or 15" screen it really doesn't make much of a difference
>>52695031
>i recently visited fascist Spain/Italy/Argentina/nazi Germany, why do people hate it? Everything is clean, the train runs on time , everything functions smoothly.
Because you have no freedom, and can only do the tiny amount of choices that the overlords allows you to do. It's a system for imbeciles who can't think for themselves, who have little knowledge and people who love to follow orders without asking why.
as a windows user that just picked up a MBP, what things can I do to make it a little more (windows) user friendly ? is it possible to put the RYG window controls on the righthand side ?
>>52696094
Sell me your 2011 model. Email: [email protected]
>>52696118
Install fedora
If you prefer Macs and you're on this board you're retarded. It's not about comparing the specs of the machine to rival machines. it's the fact that everything that has to do with Apple hardware or the OS is forcefully shoved down your throat.
This is a technology board. People prefer business grade laptops here because it allows them to easily mod every single piece of hardware on it. Before you mature /v/irgins migrated here, we used to value shit like that.
>>52696144
I gave it to my son for his birthday so he can do his homework. It was pretty slow by today's standards anyways.
You really should go the MacBook Pro route if you're looking to have a computer that will last you a while. If you want to buy used I'd suggest looking for a 2013 model or newer as they still have some life left in them.
Something else to consider is Apple's financing. If you qualify for their Barclays visa apple rewards card your first purchase of $1000 or more will have 0% interest for 18 months. That's how I bought this MacBook. Not because I could't afford to outright pay for it but because why drop $1550 right now when I can make a few $300 or $400 payments over a few months at 0% interest.
After it's paid off that card is going straight in the shredder though because I absolutely refuse to use credit cards under most circumstances.
>>52696206
Are you good? I was never nit picking and comparing the specs. If anything I've had way more sex than you so calm the fuck down you mouth breather. Besides who even games anymore
>>52696254
Thanks dude. I understand 4 sure.
That seems like a good idea m8, do you recommend paypal credit?
>>52696283
I've never used it. Go ahead and apply here for dat card with the 0% for 18 months. Unless paypal can offer 0% interest this is your best bet. Even if you don't think you'll get approved there's no harm in applying.
http://www.apple.com/shop/browse/finance/instant_credit
>>52696364
Damn dude, I appreciate it bud. Really do.
>>52696259
>If anything I've had way more sex than you so calm the fuck down you mouth breather
who even seriously bases any degree of worth at all on how many people you have conned into letting you stick your penis in them?
>>52695031
have fun watching youtube videos on 420p because the heatsink on that thing is utter shit
>>52696391
Any time man. If you get approved I really suggest the 13" MacBook Pro with the base 2.7ghz processor but upgraded flash storage to 256gb. after taxes it'll run just over $1600 and be delivered to your door next day for an additional $20.
Pro tip, go through the education store and you'll get $100 off of the MacBook Pro. There's not even a verification process to make sure you actually attend the college you say you do.
>>52696391
>>52696453
forgot link
http://www.apple.com/us-hed/shop
>buying a Mac
>ever
>>52695031
thats because you haven't truly used it to experience all of its negatives
>>52695096
>>52695145
>says software selection is useless
>says impossible to carry around
>says you'll never get any work done
>recommends a used post-apocalyptic looking laptop that weighs 2 pounds more with Linux as a remedy
Hello meme-man my old friend
I see you've come to shitpost once again
>>52696042
Yep
>>52695031
>Why do some people on /g/ hate on it? Even I fucking did.
know that feel. i reckon it was just irrational prejudices or bigotry to make myself feel superior, if i'm being honest with you, kinfolk.
>>52696869
Like watch stupid shit on youtube and shitpost on /g/? What else would you do with your mac and how do the negatives show? I've used mac for several years and it btfos windows shills left and right. Only downside is a ridiculous price but that's justified for what the product really is.
>why do you hate macs /g/
You fucking shills always use the same fucking line. No one really hated it but then you group of shills came in and started this whole /g/ hates mac shit so you could post these kind of threads. Fuck
>>52695031
Do I have to be signed on constantly to use mac?
>>52699176
if you want to use it for anything but browsing the web they suck
>>52696479
Literally the MVP of /g/
>>52699499
What do you mean?
>>52699386
HOLY SHIT YOU FUCKING DIPSHIT>>52695266
I love macbooks, they feel great to use and look great, but they are really expensive and the OS isn't the best,
>>52700498
I feel the same. I think I might just look for a good and cheap windows laptop.
>>52699519
What else would you use them for?
>>52699115
KEK
>>52699063
I saw some of the reviews on Amazon it was below a 4 star average. What can you say about build quality?
>>52696823
What do you buy Nigel?
>>52696410
Then why are you calling people virgins you fuck? You haven't even had sex yourself you kek
>>52695232
no tabs in terminal, what da fug
>>52700601
Why not? It doesn't make others less vigrin.
>>52701705
kek
