>his country fell for the Clearview meme
http://www.citylab.com/commute/2016/01/official-united-states-highway-sign-font-clearview/427068/
I've never seen clearview, ever.
Every sign here has been highway gothic for as long as I can remember.
I'd just like to say that I looked up "clearview" and discovered that there exist nerds and autists and entire forums dedicated to fucking highway design.
What the fuck.
>>52679714
Top one looks better.
top: NVIDIA
bottom: AMD
>complaining about traffic sign fonts
As long as it's perfectly readable and not something retarded like comic sans it's fine
I'm travelling at like 130+ km/h anyways so it;s not like I'll be seeing it for long
>>52680155
If you are willing to argue about something, there will be at least one other person to argue with you.
Make a thread about anything tech related on here and people will argue for hours about.
See the jobs vs. gates thread right now
>“Helen Keller can tell you from the grave that Clearview looks better,” Meeker says.
I can't barely tell the two apart and I'm not completely blind I think.
>hellen keller can tell you from the grave that clearview looks better
Holy SHIT
Highway Gothic is plainly more attractive and more easily differentiated.
>>52679714
Second one looks much better, as I value doubling by distance from the shithole that is bethlehem.
>>52680166
the bottom one is clearly compressed differently. that image is not a fair comparison of text-rendering algorithms.
>>52680457
Compression has nothing to do with it, you retard. The top font is superior.
>>52680302
Comic sans is actually insanely readable. People with dyslexia prefer it over traditional fonts like TNR or Arial.
>>52680302
Wrong my blind little pig. Hundreds of millions of road signs are passed each day. The difference in legibility even by the tiniest percent can be the difference between life and death at this scope. Take a Calligraphy class at your local community college.
>>52680500
We should just make everything bigger and in comic sans
>>52680500
>knowing your exit is a life and death situation
>>52680500
Fucking Hellen Keller could see this from the grave.
PA of course fell hard for the Clearview meme, which made local street signs terribly generic.
>>52680496
do you have a single fact to back that up because that just might be too hilarious to be true
How can hellen keller see if her eyes weren't real?
>>52680518
>My vision will not decline as I age.
>Road visibility will always be clear.
>I will never be distracted.
>>52680601
>glasses
>headlights, cat eyes, and proper driver education
>implying I'm a normie driver who texts and drives
>>52680554
I've read the same from supposedly dyslexic people. Their reasoning is that each glyph is so unique they're much easier to differentiate.
>>52680601
not him, but this is off point. none of those things (even in confluence) should cause someone to die. in his ridiculously exaggerated world, he's totally right.
you might be able to argue that old people who are distracted or confused or whatever will see the exit and not realize it's theirs until it's too late to *safely* merge over to the exit lane, and then they'll do something dangerous, but how narrow a slice of situations are we designing for?
i agree that the font matters, but between highway gothic and clearview, if someone has trouble reading either (outside of fairly extenuating circumstances), i think that's on the driver.
i happen to think that the states in the US are criminally lax about whom they license (and i'm from california, not some dickbag in another country looking down my nose at everyone else), so i realize that my ideal solution - to revoke the licenses of elderly people as their faculties diminish - is unreasonable, but that's the best solution. dealing with news stories like elderly folks tearing through a farmer's market or falling asleep and plowing into a bus or whatever shouldn't be part of the norm.
i know that we have cars baked into our national culture, but we shouldn't. it's bad for us.
Lol I know that sign. I went to school at lehigh university. Girls weren't the best looking but boy were they easy.
2nd one is better
They doubled the distance
>>52680695
This, such minor differences in font don't matter when the driver's can't even tell the gas pedal from the brakes
Highway Gothic > Clearview, but Transport > Highway Gothic
who gives a shit
Fuck readability, DIN > all
also >>>/gd/
>>52680840
green background > blue background
>>52680856
white on black > black on white
>>52680449
under8ed
>>52680155
>there exist nerds and autists and entire forums dedicated to fucking highway design.
What's wrong with it? Infrastructure is fun.
>>52680391
are you hellen keller?
just compare the "e". clearview > *
>>52682476
>Infrastructure is fun.
Too bad the US has none.
Clearview is clear winner for me but both are acceptable
>>52680155
big money in owning fonts
big autism in talking about it
>>52679714
How the fuck changing font changed distance?
Americunts please explain.
>>52684278
They're different signs you fucking nimrod.
My country created its own traffic sign typeface.
>>52680500
>the difference between life and death
Well, but those signs are pictograms anyways, so the font doesn't matter.
No sane country would do shit like writing >road works ahead on a sign, instead of just using an easily identified pictorial
ANWB-Ee confirmed for best highway font
>white on green
>are you even trying
>>52679714
Which is which? Top reads better.
>mfw road signs here were standardised fucking 50 years ago
Get your shit together America Jesus fuck
I tried doing a Photoshop project that required road signs and I discovered that there was an "official" don't and it was like $150+
I think it's absolutely retarded to charge for how letters look. And I could not find a single "free" version on the internet. Are fonts harder to pirate than videogames???
>>52685002
Land of the free
>>52679714
The Swiss shows their superior taste once again
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frutiger_(typeface)
>>52685002
FLOSS road signs when?
>>52679714
>l that look like Is
why do font designers still do this to this day
>not using frutiger
Plebs, baka desu senpaitachi
>>52685002
Fonts actually can't be protected like most works of art. The name of the font and any logo that makes use of the font can be protected but there's nothing stopping anyone from making a functionally equivalent font with a different name.
>>52685540
Other than the fact that making the rendering routines is a bitch.
Interestingly there was a FOSS font family released just recently that is based on highway gothic
http://overpassfont.org/
>>52685565
wtf
>>52685686
Something weird going on with your font renderer
>>52685540
>Fonts actually can't be protected like most works of art
That sounds like bullshit. There wouldn't be studios that do nothing but make fonts if that was the case, and it would be impossible to licence them, because people could just copy them and say "oh, this isn't helvetica, it's 'melvetica', it just so happens to look identical in every way"
>tfw you'll never design highway signs this cute
>>52685771
In the US at least that's how it is
http://copyright.gov/title37/202/37cfr202-1.html
Section (e)
The glyphs themselves cannot be copyrighted but any software used to create them can be so some of them are still locked down by other means.
>>52685820
slut
>>52680545
NYC fell hard for this meme too, replacing their iconic street signs with this shit.
>>52685852
tbqh I prefer capitalized street names rather than ALL CAPS ST
>>52679714
>his country fell for the clearview meme
actually 4 days ago it got denied :^)
"Based on these findings, FHWA does not intend to pursue further
consideration, development, or support of an alternative letter style(Clearview)."
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2016-01-25/html/2016-01383.htm
>>52685939
add.
this means that as of Feb. 25th Clearview will no longer be used and Highway Gothic (FWHA) will remain the standard issue highway font
>>52680545
>>52685852
ew that is fucking disgusting
>>52685939
>https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2016-01-25/html/2016-01383.htm
"This notice terminates the Interim Approval for Use of
Clearview Font (...)The result of this termination
rescinds the use of letter styles other than the FHWA Standard
Alphabets
>Clearview
BTFO
T
F
O
Clearview? Yeah, clear that it's a worse view.. h-heh
>>52686393
heh
adwaita? more like ad rather not
>>52685827
not the glyphs, but the designs the glyphs are describing
>>52679714
The top sign's font looks better from that distance.
Does the large font spacing in the lower sign work better at a greater distance? The pictures are taken from much closer than where I try to initially read a roadsign.
Caracteres L1 best font
I sincerely cant tell a difference between the two in ops picture
>>52687888
Pretty sure that's highway gothic. The lower case letters aren't rounded as much they're more edgy and also they're also not cut flat at the top they're cut at an angle.
>>52687888
dem button-copy interstate shields
meanwhile 90% of traffic accidents are caused by human error
hopefully this new font will help reduce this number at least 50%
>>52679714
>>52685852
Clearview looks so much better.
>>52687888
You are unironically dyslexic. Seek medical help.
>>52680155
See this very thread.
Autists arguing about highway design!
>>52688153
Everyone thinks of autists as loving trains, but really it's any kind of transportation. Buses, highways, ships, airliners...
>>52688088
Even hellen keller could see that!
>>52688216
I think autists can summon hyperfocus on any random esoteric subject, but are more visible in areas normal people might generally ignore.
>>52679714
Based Detroit uses Clearview.
>>52688428
It's important to quickly tell which street you've been stabbed on.
feels like they just didn't want to pay the $800
>>52685852
>iconic street signs
Laughable
They just replaced their generic street signs with different generic street signs
>>52679714
>Here is a photo with a camera
>Here is a photo with a shittier camera
>>52687888
This sign and highway exit could literally be anywhere in the USA. Why is it always so homogenised?
>>52687888
this trogger zozzles me
>>52680292
amd capable of twice the view distance confirmed
>he doesn't walk/bike to his location
What does it feel like having inferior public transport?
>>52690780
well that's part of the point, connecting the whole country was the reason they built it.
in any case if you wanna get autistic about how highway signage differs based on where you are, exit numbering differs. Note how there's exits 2E and 2W? Most places don't number east/west like that, it's just the mile marker number, appended with A, B, C, etc if there's more than one exit within a mile. Until a few years ago, one major expressway near me (I-294, a bypass around Chicago) didn't have it's exits numbered at all. For a long time it varied state to state whether exits were numbered by mile marker or simply sequentially, but most of that's been moved to mile-marker now. Interstate 19 in Arizona is signed in kilometers. You'll see different schemes for whether or not to put upcoming exits on several signs on one gantry, or put a list of exits on one sign. (roughly speaking, the former is found in urban areas and the latter in rural areas). You'll also find limited-access, grade-separated, high-speed, multilane roads in general called different things in different parts of the country - parkway, freeway, expressway, or just "highway", which often doesn't refer to surface streets. The only term that's not used in any part of the country is the European word "motorway".
