hey guys you can turn the botnet off
Most people that install Windows don't know that 'that exists, they just smash that express button.
>>52659047
SHH you'll extinguish the banter ;>)
Doesn't disable everything faggot
Software supposedly does the job
>>52659047
You actually can't. Microsoft has already admitted that.
>>52659093
sauce?
>>52659098
Use DOS like a real man
>>52659098
link to source?
>>52659117
https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/
half of that shit only applies to tablet functionality and windows store 'apps' in the first place
Activate godmode. Then you have access to all settings and can disable it.
>>52659047
Yeah I recommend "Destroy Windows 10 Spying". It's even 'Free' as you loonix cooks always want it to be.
https://kat.cr/destroy-windows-10-spying-final-version-exe-t11835356.html
https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying
Have fun
>>52659047
>he thinks he can flip a switch and "Done! No more botnet!"
>>52659192
>Cooks
You all know the botnet literally cannot work if you set up a firewall and block your PC from sending out information? It takes like 2 minutes to set up.
>>52659137
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/#6b70f1a22f4a
It's only possible in the enterprise and education edition of Windows 10.
>>52659229
how you know what outgoing not to block?
>>52659229
botnet or no security updates, sounds great
>>52659276
Wireshark
>>52659047
It's not a botnet. Use a different OS if you don't agree with their terms of service.
>>52659302
I once installed that. Didn't know if it was working
>>52659302
while you are at it, why dont you use wireshark to prove that turning the shit on and off doesnt do anything?
and no, just because it is sending probes to an ip doesnt mean anything
>>52659240
and how would you do it then?
>>52659047
Fuck off Pajeet
>>52659386
Install enterprise genius
https://youtu.be/LQyapjh5w3U
>>52659374
Argumentum ad Ignorantiam.
>>52659401
Argumentum ad hominem.
so enterprise/education is 100% botnet free? kek
>>52659386
It's literally an option where telemetry and other spyware in settings is to completely turn it off, but only in enterprise and education
>>52659418
i am serious. you cant even prove what is being sent in the first place, so until you can actually show there is no difference at all you have nothing to go off of in the first place.
and make sure you realize that the 'telemetry' shit is what cant be turned off completely, but that isnt sending shit you type or any of the other scare tactics linux shills like to talk about in the first place
>>52659476
>I am serious
I am too. Im not him, but an ad ignorantiam is not a valid argument for your assertion.
>linux shills
If you know anything about Linux you'd know there's no such thing.
>>52659476
what do i have to prove, it's in the control panel, it's in the eula, it's already been shown MS can install and uninstall software without warning
>>52659522
dont respond with high school tier grammar just because you cant come up with anything but scare tactics.
if you knew anything about 'telemetry' you would realize it sends bullshit like uac escalations, and only if you are in the ceip in the first place.
but no, you dont real kb's, you read dumb fucking /g/ threads and play along. until you can actually prove something, stop acting like a fucking tool
>>52659240
Still doesn't in enterprise. I'm sure some kind soul has the .webm showing this.
>>52659560
link says otherwise
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt577208(v=vs.85).aspx
>>52659551
saying 'its in the eula' doesnt mean shit kid. you have to show that turning the stuff off doesnt actually turn it off. keep in mind those options are NOT telemetry, and telemetry is only used when you are opted in to the ceip which you have to do manually.
>>52659476
it will always send data unless you fix it with external software like -> >>52659192
>pic related, thats wireshark
>>52659590
>you have to show that turning the stuff off doesnt actually turn it off
so the burden is on me to reverse engineer every signal Windows 10 makes while Microsoft can be as shady/vague as they want?
>>52659555
>dont respond with high school tier grammar just because you cant come up with anything but scare tactics.
That's another ad hominem. Keep it up, kid.
>if you knew anything about 'telemetry'
Wild assumption.
> you would realize it sends bullshit like uac escalations, and only if you are in the ceip in the first place.
It send far more telemetry than just being in CEIP.
>you dont real kb's
Please, have you read any RFCs for that matter?
>until you can actually prove something, stop acting like a fucking tool
That's yet another ad ignorantiam. Shall we see how many fallacies you can make in a hour?
>>52659623
that doesnt show shit. you have 4 dns packets, and the rest are not to the telemetry ips, those are for that stupid MIRC message
nice try though, why dont you post the video where the guy uses the rsa decrypter program to reveal windows is sending back screenshots of programs you install
Just install a packet sniffer and look for yourself
turning on the privacy related settings doesnt prevent the os from sending several megabytes of unknown encrypted data to a handful of servers every minute.
>>52659664
#ShillLogic
>>52659623
To avoid botnet, whenever you want to open your start menu, turn off your computer
>>52659677
>literally nothing but /g/ pandering
>respond line by line with bullshit skipping around the point
its so cute seeing unpaid linux shills get called out. id say prove linux doesnt/cant do the same thing, but considering the bugs that have existed in that open source software for decades before getting caught, you couldnt do it
>>52659574
>>52659736
if you bothered to even look at those ips, you would see they are going to a domain not associated with microsoft, and most of them are http redirects
do you even know what the fuck to do with a packet capture in the first place?
>>52659694
>that doesnt show shit. you have 4 dns packets,
do you know what DNS is? I get those packets on all systems, im on a VPN afterall, it checks for time outs
>>52659718
>>literally nothing but /g/ pandering
>>respond line by line with bullshit skipping around the point
You're not aware of your own fallacies, are you?
>its so cute seeing unpaid linux shills get called out. id say prove linux doesnt/cant do the same thing
Yet another ad ignorantiam.
>, but considering the bugs that have existed in that open source software for decades before getting caught, you couldnt do it
Please, http://www.cvedetails.com/vendor/26/Microsoft.html
>>52659783
do you? 4 fucking dns resolves, which have nothing to do with any of the following packets means literally NOTHING.
maybe if the rest of that traffic was going to those resolved queries you would have something, but the only other traffic is mirc.
shit, if anything that shows that turning off those options prevents any data from being transmitted after the dns queries.
dont fucking try to lecture me on the types of fucking internet traffic you dumb shit, because if you even bothered to look at that stupid webm you would see it is literally NOTHING
>>52659772
Not him but im just wondering, is someone paying you? i was curious myself and i installed a packet sniffer and just observed what was going on a fresh w10 install.
I could not prevent w10 from sending several megabytes of data to known ms ips and some other adresses that were implied to be connected to nsa harvesting.
I researched and came up with my own conclusion that microsoft have 0 respect and that the privacy settings are fake.
>>52659789
>STILL responding line by line, word by word
>have to resort to posting microsoft cve's
>>52659441
>>52659677
>>52659418
>pointing out logical falacies to disprove comment
>not realizing that that in and of itself is a logical fallacy
>>52659736
Was this before or after they set the telemetry level to 0?
>>52659843
no you fucking fag, i am just not playing along trying to fit in. i run windows, linux, and osx across multiple devices. they all have their pros and cons but when fucking retards try posting webms of wireshark when they obviously have no idea what they are doing i am not going to sit by and go MUH BOTNET
the fact you think i am fucking paid just because i am challenging this dumb shit proves how much of a fucking tool you are.
>>52659818
Theres nothing send to microsoft, just give up
>>52659848
Yet another ad hominem, and a poor attempt to annoy me. Keep it up.
>>52659858
I'm not disproving him. I'm pointing out why his assertions aren't supported by his invalid arguments, mate.
>>52659772
65.55.44.109 United States
State: Washington
City: Redmond
ZIP: 98052
Hostname: 65.55.44.109, Whois
Organization: Microsoft Corporation, History
Now fuck off pajeet.
The same goes for all the other shills doing damage control.
>>52659867
There is no '0' in the telemetry, not even in the enterprise edition despite what the settings say.
>>52659882
But why was my computer sending MEGABYTES to microsoft after i told them not to?
>>52659908
Don't bother arguing with the shill, they have been very pervasive lately.
>>52659902
In the group policy settings you can set it to zero which is the "security level"
>>52659882
>being this asshurt on a Traditional Taiwanese Theatre forum
>>52659942
And that still sends a lot of data to Microsoft, hence the point being that there is no such thing as actually having 0 telemetry.
>>52659902
>>52659942
and diasble MSRT/defender
>>52659772
What are you trying to fucking pull?
>>52659908
why the fuck should i know? for fucks sake it could have been windows update for all you know. you think just turning that shit off means the os isnt going to send anything back?
>>52659902
in the very beginning, you see about 2 microsoft ips. after the window was moved that traffic is going to someone else.
and no one ever said turning those settings off means all communication ends, it says right there that basic is still turned on, but that data could be from any number of things
>>52659884
so it didnt send anything because there was nothing to send? that is the weakest response yet. why even show that capture? you think someone is going to see all the shit at the end and freak out?
>>52659981
yeah, i should have used the qualifier 'most' or some shit. the vast majority of that traffic is going to some random web site
>>52659984
>so it didnt send anything because there was nothing to send?
what do you mean there was nothing to send? if i hadnt blocked them already there'd be atleast 400 packets being send everytime i open the start menu
>>52659984
>you think someone is going to see all the shit at the end and freak out?
the end was just there to prove that this is not faked and there are requests coming through wireshark.. obviously those were not microsoft IPs but IRC IPs
>>52659981
>>52660019
guys stop responding to the shill.
>>52659961
only temporarily :^)
Does NetLimiter work on Windows 10?
You could use that to block all the telemetery shit if you take some time to blacklist all the services.
>>52660015
No, the vast majority are literally only going to MS IP addresses.
Honestly, I never knew the shilling was literally this fucking bad.
*grabs popcorn*
>>52659902
>>52659942
>>52659952
>>52659981
"No user content, such as user files or communications, is gathered at the Security telemetry level, and we take steps to avoid gathering any information that directly identifies a company or user, such as name, email address, or account ID. However, in rare circumstances, MSRT information may unintentionally contain personal information. For instance, some malware may create entries in a computer’s registry that include information such as a username, causing it to be gathered. MSRT reporting is optional and can be turned off at any time."
>>52660053
>only temporarily :^)
or permanently.
https://youtu.be/u1kGMCfb2xw
>>52660048
>its just a shill guys! no one would ever go against the /g/ hivemend!
you are a fucking tool
Oh, please, anons, windows just needs to know how many times and what have you access at any given time with the software they are lending to you. How is that unreasonable?
>>52660067
everything after the halfway mark goes to one address. if you actually had that capture you could display the results and show traffic by ip
>>52660109
18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'
>>52660091
clearly malware has disabled windows defender, but don't worry microsoft will push an update periodically to fix those settings
>>52659984
I could have agreed if we talked about a few bytes. But the fact that we are talking about megabytes every few minutes means they could be doing anything. We could have our desktops snapshotted. We are talking about a fairly big stream of encrypted data. How can you look at this and not worry about whats going on?
I really really really wish someone would break the encryption from our data streams just to either completely bust the w10 conspiracy or prove us right.
And if microsoft didnt do anything wrong why wouldnt they spend 5 minutes making a presentation showing the procedure of how they decrypt and then handle our data?
>>52660135
>ill show him, ill post the forum sliding bullet point 18!
like i said, you are a tool. i already stated my side and you have yet to do anything to counter it. you are welcome to show the different in data being sent when the options on and off any time now. otherwise i guess crawl back to the gnu handbook
>>52660166
This guy is winning
>>52660141
>microsoft will push an update
what update?
>>52660166
dude come on, nothing is sending megs of data back every few minutes. yes you are making an exaggeration but we are talking about like 20 packets
>>52660217
0* packets if you fix your windows.
>>52660172
you can't deny you're forum sliding.
also there's been a bunch of things posted here by others already, but that's not what you're here for, you're just here to shill.
>>52659981
>>52659902
>>52659736
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/
>>52660239
sliding to what? for fucking who? you need to remove the tin foil fucking hat you dumb shit, i am simply calling you out.
and stop posting fucking forbes im not going to turn off my adblock to visit that fucking website. the fact you can visit it right there is a red fucking flag that you are in no position to be acting tough
everyone already knows that the telemetry shit can only be tuned down not off, but that isnt sending your god damn keystrokes back
Have anyone noticed how the w10 advocators just attack credibility while completely ignoring the facts that caused this debacle?
>>52660277
>this much damage control
>>52660296
yeah that's a typical shill tactic
>>52660296
>facts
>>52660277
sorry forbes is not available here
>>52660334
>im too purposely too retarded to open a website, therefore anything there is false!
>>52660347
>im too purposely too retarded to open a website, therefore anything there is false!
l2greentext
>>52660327
and a linux shill tactic is to make and post fuck retarded montages like that?
im not one who is able to hit the forbes website, or say that megabytes of data is being sent back every 15 minutes, or post packet captures with no context
>>52660277
> im not going to turn off my adblock to visit that fucking website
>everyone already knows that the telemetry shit
appealing to the crowd?
>>52660277
>2016
>not having an adblocker that blocks forbes' adblocker blocking
>>52660347
we have all seen that article, the fact is you are running your browser without an adblock or have that website whitelisted, which means you are in no position to try and school others.
>>52660277
>posting an article from a reputable source means you're full of shit
lel
You can look at it without turning off adblock, no clue why you're so dumb.
>>52660296
Probably never paid attention in shill school
>>52660277
original statement:
>windows 10 doesn't spy on you, all the botnet can be disabled!!!
now:
>ok ok I admit you cant disable all the spying, but it's not bad I swear!!
>>52660383
yeah, i run adblock plus i guess it cant bypass that shit. oh well, i know exactly what article it is, that shit was spamming for weeks when it actually came out. the thing is, this thread was started on the basis of the OP's picture, which has nothing to do with the telemetry shit being only able to go to basic or whatever. not to mention you need to be in the ceip
>>52660419
adblock plus is at least half a botnet. I could go on a rant about it but to save us all some time I'm just going to say that I've switchted to uBlock Origin and I've had 0 issues.
>>52660361
where was linux ever mentioned in this conversation? If you're gonna play the you're a shill too card, at least have some relevance.
>>52660418
the botnet is OP's picture, the stupid shit that mostly was related to apps from the app store and tablet shit. that is not the same telemetry which i never said could be fucking turned off, however like i said before it is looking at shit like uac escalations, and you need to be in the ceip.
but since you or i cant even prove what is or isnt in the information being sent out, it is either you with your scare tactics or me not giving a flying fuck and living my life
>>52659047
BOTNET
>>52660387
try ublock origin
>>52660463
wtf
>>52660456
what scare tactics, i just think it's funny how they all backtrack. it's not like we have ids here and i know who posts what.
>>52660489
that you think the os is actually sending back your keystrokes, and using the term spying on you to make people think everything you do and look at is being sent home
>>52660456
Wait, so your position is "well, those megabytes being send are probably nothing important, so why worry"? Because, all right, feel free not to care but everyone on this side of the debate will not ignore behaviour normally only seen in malware and loggers. And let's not forget MS boasts about what and how long users were doing with windows 10.
>>52660532
but it does send keystrokes if you have it analyze your typing and handwriting. Also even without keystrokes, the telemetry sends a lot of undesirable info that cant be disabled.
>>52660361
it wasn't okay when canonical was doing it with ubuntu/amazon, it's still not okay when microsoft is doing it with windows 10
>>52660532
The biggest thing that people should really be worried about are the changes in the 10 TOS. It contains wording that states that microsoft has the right to access any file stored on a windows PC, if the file is involved in illegal activity.
I never knew the shilling here could be so bad. People defending Microsoft and their data gathering programs. WTF.
>>52660334
what a fucking tool
>>52660277
your efforts are admirable considering you only get paid 2 cents per post, but you're not fooling anyone rajesh
>>52660584
>>No user content, such as user files or communications, is gathered at the Security telemetry level
>>52660601
>difficult for non-techy users
>>52660613
For real though, the shills aren't bad at all at forum-sliding and antagonizing people that argue with them.
>>52660615
Yeah, it's all gathered at the "anti-weaboo & /g/tard protection level" instead. Fact is, terms of service basically give Microsoft legal access to the entire contents of your PC.
>>52660601
it literally says that its just sending error reports to fix them in the future, no personal data. l2read fucking faggot
>>52660659
Sauce?
>>52660615
>>52660659
Really, what are you going to do when loli porn becomes illegal in the US, and microsoft decides to expand their anti-cp filter from their web services onto the desktop? According to the TOS, which you had to agree too, they have every right to do fuck you with it.
>>52660662
Clickbait title 10/10
>>52659047
OK Satya Nadella we believe you
>>52660662
>overlooking ublock origin being on on forbes
i was pointing the fact that I entered Forbes with an adblock on faggot. we know you just didnt wanted to give that article more traffic
>>52660699
kek
>>52660721
>i was pointing the fact that I entered Forbes with an adblock on faggot
great, you entered a pointless and utterly useless website that only the lowest of the lows use
>>52659623
yeah, Kat seems like a legit place to download software... what's to say there's no malware inside?
>>52659229
Alright Chris Capossela. Sure...
>>52660671
>To the extent necessary to provide the Services to you and others, to protect you and the Services, and to improve Microsoft products and services, you grant to Microsoft a worldwide and royalty-free intellectual property license to use Your Content, for example, to make copies of, retain, transmit, reformat, display, and distribute via communication tools Your Content on the Services.
>>52660840
>We do not use what you say in email, chat, video calls or voice mail, or your documents, photos or other personal files
>>52660755
the link below
>>52660923
>we do not use WHAT WE COLLECT you saying in email, chat, video calls, voice mail, documents, photos, personal files
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement/default.aspx
>>52661071
>But there's no keylogger!!!!!
- Microsoft shill
I'm still debating whether to go OSX route or Linux route after Win7 support ends.
>>52661376
Whatever works for you. If you're alright with the way apple does things then go apple, if they get on your nerves later on down the road then you can always switch to linux then.
>>52661376
I went with Debian and haven't looked back at all. Steam was a pain to setup, but it's working fine now. Dolphin isn't optimal with only openGL, but it's great. If you really need Windows later, you can try the difficult passthrough if you have the right hardware.
>>52661071
That only happens if you enable input personalization...
You faggots make it sound like Microsoft automatically enforces this shit on everybody. It's fucking pathetic.
>>52662836
>Pajeet fervently writes, desperate to receive a shilling bonus for the month.
>>52662870
Jesus fucking christ you faggots have taken this Hindu shill meme to the next fucking extreme.
You're literally the Internet equivalent of Islamic extremists. I bet you're all virgins who haven't been inside a vagina since the day they came out of one.
>>52662925
No need to worry Pajeet, I think you'll get your whole 3 cent bonus this month.
Hey guys, op is an idiot Microsoft has flat out stated that you can't entirely disable telemetry reporting.
So you can minimize the amount of shit you're eating, but you can't stop eating feces. I don't have that problem with my OS wincucks.
>>52662925
>provided with links and factual supporting statements that contrast with his own opinions
>"Oh yeah? w-well, y-you're a virgin!"
>>52659047
>implying you can trust what any functionality does when you don't have access to the source
keep memeing tho
>>52659047
>2016
>Not falling for winkek10 meme
What's your excuse?
>>52663553
Funny how everything except for 1 review is either 5 stars or 1 star.
>>52663687
That goes for everything, not just W10. People are stupid and try to polarize everything.
>>52663553
>1. Thank you, everything is working perfectly
Shill
>2. New Windows
Retard
>3. It's Windows, buy it
Confirmed shill
>4. Works great: Best operating system for a personal computer, way better than fapple (not a typo)
Retarded shill
>All those customer images
My sides
>>52659156
>3rd party gui which "supposedly" does the job and isn't malware using the anti-telemetry hype
You're dumb.
>>52659926
the shill paranoia is fucking retarded in the first place but you realize one of the threads you capped as "evidence" is literally someone asking how to steal Windows, right?
>Windows 10 is a botnet because you can't disable anonymous telemetry
>posted from my smartphone :^)
>>52663717
>i bought this product and it works
>shill
you are literally a retarded person
>>52665441
It's windows, buy it :^^)
this thread is proof enough that all windows users need to be b& from /g/
you people are all fucking dumb.
>>52665664
What's a bampersand?
>>52659192
Strange. The first link is blocked in my country (Portugal)
>>52659047
Fuck off Rajeesh.
>>52659047
If everyone is complaining about windows 10, why the fuck don't they just stay on windows 7? I honestly don't see what the point of even upgrading is?
>>52666328
New hardware will only support Windows 10, Intel
>>52666328
Microshit shipped telemetry updates to 7 and 8.1 too.
>>52666328
Mate, the telemetry is also being backported to earlier versions of Windows.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/microsoft-accused-of-adding-spy-features-to-windows-7-8/
>>52666367
>>52666423
>>52666538
i guess loonix is my only hope then.
>>52659047
As a matter of fact, it's actually very much about what the default settings are. People even criticize Linux mint because it has yahoo as the default search engine for Firefox and flash pre installed.
>>52666554
>GNU/Linux
If you care about your freedom, yes. If you only care about playing the latest triple A computer video games, then you're going to have a hard time.
>>52666613
not huge into gaming these days so might try it.
it this a meme or is it actually sensible to do this instead if you want to protect freedoms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dbAUrtMX4
>>52666643
>Using virtualization to emulate Windows on your Linux box to play video games
That's basically what he's showing you. In other words, you're still using Windows. Meaning that you're still being violated with the omnipresent telemetry that's inside the OS you just installed on your hypervisor.
If you're aiming for freedom, it's a joke. If your aim is just play video game and you don't care about telemetry, it's not a joke.
Beware of a drop in performance, even when you use PCIe pass through. A dual boot would make more sense, unless you care about your freedom, of course.
>>52666643
Just get Linux native games. There are hundreds, just check steam and gog and search for Linux. If you want to get your ass handled by thugs like EA Origin and their newest cutting edge AAA bore fest tech demos, you can always stick with Windows.
>>52659926
Friendly reminder that he used his camera flash to take a picture, not Adobe's Flash to make a screenshot.
Can you please send me your Ubuntu drawings ? I'd like to engage a flame war in another thread
>trusting a liar telling you he's not lying
Lots of people in this thread, want to buy the bridge I'm selling.
>>52660674
>what are you going to do when loli porn becomes illegal in the US
nothing I don't care since I don't live in US
>>52666700
GPU passthrough.
Containing Windows in a VM means I can just thrw it all away and nothing of value will be lost. It's not going to be my daily driver, won't hold any critical files, won't be useful for anything work-related, so whatever telemetry MS collects in the end (since not everything can be disabled) will just be garbage data.
>>52659416
Holy shit. Typing is one thing, but screen shots are even worse. Fuck Microsoft.
>>52659156
>>52659461
No enterprise and so on only have the option to turn telemetry down to what Microsoft calls "basic" telemetry. Nothing can turn it off.
>>52667145
so you have either never used that version of windows or you are a deluded tinfoil hat wearing cunt that believes in the new world order, microsoft spying and that Bush is a lizardman
either way you are a fucking stupid idiot
stop spreading your memes
commit pic related please
>>52667996
Phajeet chill pleas.
>>52666858
>This retarded
My fucking sides
>>52668029
I see you like memes
I'm quite the memer myself
>>52666858
>he used his camera flash to take a picture, not Adobe's Flash to make a screenshot.
Man, this has to be the hardest bait dropped in /g/ today
>>52668057
anon, haha. Where did you find this one?!
>>52668075
In a designated shilling thread
>>52668086
anon: I really, really, really like this meme.
>>52668098
Where are my rupees?
>>52668098
It's all yours, friend :^)
>>52668118
Thanks, anon.
>>52668132
You're welcome Lori, and thanks for joining us <:^]
>>52668210
Celebration theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8&list=RDUZuzw2TCNSU&index=8
>>52659047
Obvs not. How new to /g/ are you?
>>52659093
>>52659156
>Not just configuring regestry, local gpo's and services
Top kek
>>52659884
>Theres nothing send to microsoft
Actually when you open the start menu it connects to Microsoft for internet search. If you disable it there won't be any connection.
>taking a picture of a screen
>these kind of people post on /g/
>>52669337
and how does one save a screenshot during Windows 10 installation?
>>52669572
Virtual machine.
>j-j-j-just turn the botnet off
