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"who would've thought it? You do love the 970!"
>being nVidia "customer"
>cucking yourself
>having to lick up your bulls jizz, too.
How beta do you have to be? I don't think the greek alphabet has enough letters to express the submission of the average nvidia fanboi
>>52653661
>there are people who fell for the 3.5GiB meme
>>52653661
Nvidia customers are generally just ignorant when it comes to technical minutae. They want to play their children's gaymes and don't care if it stutters a bit. Appealing the the lowest common denominator is almost always a winning strategy.
>>52653679
>there are people who buy team red products though they are inferior.
What matters is performance if you have money, and price/performance if you dont.
Anyone who votes for any team as mindlessly as a big part of /g/ does, is almost equally fucking retarded.
Also, >>52653661 is what you get when AMD is weak. So Nvidia fanboys are slightly worse than AMD fags imo.
>>52653763
>willingly supporting closed source kikeware
>>52653763
But the 390 objectively offers better price/performance right now, as well as much better potential longevity than the 970. The 970 sells more because of marketing, nothing else.
>>52653796
>being to stupid to understand simple, written text.
You are fucking retarded. Literally.
>>52653763
>this relativism
I guess you enjoy being lied too? Or just bummed out you missed returning your 970?
>>52653836
>literally supporting kikes
You're fucking retarded. Literally
>>52653835
>>52653838
>>52653861
Just as >>52653796 you totally misunderstood.
Im against "chosing a side"
Read:
>Anyone who votes for any team as mindlessly as a big part of /g/ does, is almost equally fucking retarded.
And I generally DISLIKE Nvidia fanboys MORE because they dont understand, that a weak AMD leads to shitty Nvidia products aswell.
Read:
>Also, >>52653661 (OP) is what you get when AMD is weak. So Nvidia fanboys are slightly worse than AMD fags imo
When did /g/ get flooded with underage fucking faggots that ARE UNABLE TO READ? This is plain horrible.
You people are the fucking worst. Kill yourselves.
>>52653886
>literally supporting kikes
>>52653965
So underage, it hurts.
>>52654016
>LITERALLY a kike
>>52653965
cringe.
>>52654061
>literally a KIKE
>>52653886
welp, apparently you can't read since you completely dismissed >>52653835 very valid point.
It is hardly people making the rational choice as you claimed >>52653723. The 390 completly outperforms the 970 at a cheaper price. So it has to be some sort of stockholm-syndrome if you are going for nVidia.
>>52654069
Well done. You are worse than guys spaming spiderman.
>>52654077
Welp, I never disagreed with that. Never. Not once. Literally. If I did, please quote me.
>>52653835
>tfw 980 build for $1,150
>>52653661
The one case I accept 970s are the itx 970s, I value having a small rig cuz I lan a lot with friends.
>>52653661
i cant read nazi, no idea what youre trying to get across with the pic, but i got a 970 on sale for $250 like a year ago and ive had no issues what so ever with my purchase. I'm actually thinking about getting another to sli them
I have 2 980Ti in SLi.
I'm a richfag though.
>>52654082
>literally A kike
>>52654098
buy a nano and don't be a cuck
>>52654077
Oh, I forgot to mention that >>52653723 is not me.
>>52653763
is my first post.
In your guy's opinion, who makes the best cards?
>>52654191
Both. In the current lineup Nvidia is better performance wise but AMD better price/performance wise.
>>52654191
AMD for everything under $650
>>52654208
Ty kindly for your input anon
What bothers me about AMD cards right now is that they use like twice the fucking wattage. Why?
Lol the more money, the worse it gets?
>>52654235
They don't.
Post proof they do if you're gonna claim that shit.
Protip: They don't.
>>52654290
What card do you currently recommend?
>>52654235
because nvidia lies about power consumption
>>52654230
>AMD for everything under $650
so poorfags. amd confirmed for poorfags once more
>>52654318
and AMD is now housefire meme
>>52654290
They do. Only 1 google search away, you lazy fuck.
>>52654290
>970
>145 W
>r9 390
>275 W
So not LITERALLY twice you fucking aspie, it was exaggeration, but the point is, why are AMD cards so much hotter and louder?
>>52654318
Would like to see proof, honestly interested.
>>52654104
>"the jizz was so good!! I'll prove you by going for a second round!"
Man the lengths people will go to, just to spite someone on an image board. kek
>>52654352
244 x 2 = 488, not 371 you chucklefuck.
Now go find a chart that shows averages instead of full load, and you'll see the difference go down to 30 or 40W, tops.
Of course you won't, since you only care about the charts that make whatever you got look good, to justify your shitty purchase. Deal with it kid.
![power_average[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/lsKuVxI.png "power_average[1].png")
>>52654363
nvidia uses 10w more average than they say, AMD uses 14w less than they say
>>52654352
>>52654290
Also this picture, before you even think about complaining that the previous one compared the 900 series to the 200 series, you fucking piece of shit.
>>52654413
Also, these cards are meant to be fucking played on, which means they WILL go up to FULL FUCKING LOAD you moron. Who gives a shit about idle power consumption when thats not the thing making your PC run hot and your wallet empty, in BOTH cases.
>Nvidia and AMD both consume similar power when they are not under full load
>AMD consumes more power under full load
>naaah, lets forget that last part and sway on /g/ saying they need the same power
Your logic is fucking stupid.
![power_peak[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/4Nh1UNq.png "power_peak[1].png")
>>52654363
>>52654473
AMD hits the tdp just a bit over
nvidia goes 46W over at max load
Nvidia is more efficient but they also lie to make it look more efficient.
>>52654363
>145W
You sure about that? How about you go by actual data, and not the shiny tag Nvidia puts on the box? You know, it's not the first time that their label tells you something that isn't quite true. They still put "4GB" on the boxes of the 970.
>>52654413
>difference go down to 30 or 40W tops
Didnt you claim there is NO difference at all in this post? Even twice?
>>52654290
>>52654490
>power spikes are more significant than the average over the course of playing a game
Okay kid.
>>52654363
>but the point is, why are AMD cards so much hotter and louder?
because maxwell changed the game. it's not that AMD got so much hotter, its that nvidia got way more efficient and cooler.
it was generally the trend of GPUs to get louder/hotter as they got more powerful, as it was the outcome of using an inefficient architecture
just take a look at the gtx 770, it's at 375w !
40/50/60w might not seem like that much when looking at total system power, but it does mean fans will be running faster/louder.
so there is some trade off here.
>>52654526
I didn't claim there wasn't a difference. I claimed it wasn't two times higher, which was what was stated. Go double check.
And I stand by it. The difference is not double. In fact, it's barely noticeable.
The difference in power usage over the course of a year, is less than $5. You're buying cards in the $300 price bracket, and you care about $5 difference in power usage, not in getting the card that performs better. How does that sound for retarded?
>>52654552
>spikes
>SPIKES
Both my R9 390 and my GTX770 are between 95 and 100% CONSTANTLY when playing muh gaymes.
So the fuck are you talking about?
>>52654576
Funnily enough, Nvidia only started marketing towards less noise/temperature with the coming of Maxwell. Before that, no one cared. They even burned down a couple houses, and everyone forgot about that already.
Now, getting a card that saves you $5 in power a year, and that is 5ºC cooler, is more important than getting the better performer for cheaper. Just because it's more "efficient", even if negligible.
Go figure.
>>52654584
I apologize, I didnt think you took his exaggeration literally. I must admit, I didnt believe anyone would take it literally because that statement is actually stupid.
>>52654614
That doesn't mean it's spiking up to 1000W, though.
The fact that the card MIGHT need some extra power at some points, doesn't mean it will average out at that point. The average is always much lower than the absolute maximum power spike.
Put it this way: AMD cards average under their announced maximum TDP, while Nvidia cards average much higher than the announced TDP. You think that's fine? I don't.
>>52654520
my 970 runs assassins creed syndicate at all max settings at an average 30 fps at 1080p even and it said it's using 4040 ish mb.
>>52654352
>>52654235
It is done. The typical nvidia-fag draws his last resort weapon: power consumption.
Yes, nVidia is better because on an average gaming load you save $10 a year on energy cost.
Yes, you are not a poorfag because you bother about $10 of energy cost
Yes, your mom will love you for saving 30watts for 2 hours a day
Yes, the one thing you care even more about then your vidya is paul the polar bear, which you just saved by buying a nvidia graphics card.
I love the power consumption phase of the nvidiot. Next stop: buyers remorse phase.
>>52654762
The heat and noise in a small room with poor airflow IS a big deal, though. You're right, nobody cares about $10/year.
Don't be an idiot.
>>52654661
good point, actually.
>>52654621
The trend to be more efficient had to come eventually, you can't just keep making shit hotter eventually you won't be able to cool it or will have to have a closed loop cooling system like AMD has to cope with it what happens when that isn't enough? you go with a 240mm radiator next ?
Also lets be mindful of the prices of the cards when the 970 did come out, at the time of release it was priced well, well under the 290x and under the 290 as well and then out performed them both (most of the time) and it drew less power and was quieter too.
The only way for AMD to compete with that was just to slash prices, it seems to be the only way for AMD to compete by slashing prices.
Intel and nvidia both enjoy double digit margins, AMD has negative margins..
>>52654784
With headphones, you won't notice the noise if you're playing. Unless you're using the card on something other than games that puts it under load, noise isn't relevant, you won't be noticing it.
As for heat, good coolers on AMD cards play a huge roll, and can minimize that massively. If you have a good case, it also minimizes it even more. Small room won't be a big problem.
I have a 390 and it idles at 30ºC in the winter and 38ºC in the summer. Under load, it never goes over 75ºC, which is not even 10ºC higher than a 970, if I'm not mistaken. And that's at the absolute maximum, it's usually under 70ºC even with load on it.
The absolute only reason to buy a 970 is on one of those mini-ITX builds, if for some reason you want one. Other than that, if you get a good 390, none of that is an issue.
>>52654855
Which brand of 390 would you recommend? As in Sapphire, evga, etc
>>52654829
I mean... That's what AMD is doing now too, and they're not doing too bad.
Zen will also have a new upgraded cooler that performs much better than a good part of the aftermarket coolers. They're actually investing hard into it now.
>>52654784
who cares about stock coolers? Any OEM cooler is just as silent as nvidia ones and the heat argument is just lame. If you don't run furmark 24/7 and live in a cupboard the average room temp difference will maybe be 2-3°C
>>52654881
EVGA doesn't make coolers for AMD, as far as I know.
Basically, avoid ASUS at all costs. They are part of the reason AMD gets such bad rep. They just reuse the same coolers they make for their Nvidia cards, and the result is obvious, their coolers suck donkey dick on AMD. It's absolute trash.
MSI, PCS+ and the Sapphire coolers are the best. This is for the 300 series, for the 200 you should stick to Sapphire.
These 3 are all really good, and will keep the card under 75ºC at all times under normal conditions, and at under 40ºC on idle. Some of them have fans off by default until they reach 60ºC though (it's some no-noise marketing shit), but you can just turn the fans up to 10% on idle instead of off. Even with fans off while idling, it won't even get to 60ºC. I know MSI does this, not sure about the others.
XFX and Gigabyte are the middleground there. Not too bad, but not as good as the other 3. If you get them considerably cheaper, it's a decent option.
>>52654881
I'd recommend the new Sapphire 390 8G nitro. Seems good in reviews. Or just wait for polaris as the 390 and fury inevitably drop in price.
Going into power consumption, would it not make sense to at least mention the issues with high refresh rate screens on idle?
This shit literally ruins all of the power saved on games.
>>52655059
Wtf
/g/ is fucking retarded today. I guess non-retard just don't discuss in shill thread.
Where's the cheapest place to get a 970? I remember seeing them for less than $300 somewhere but I can't recall where.
>>52655125
>I can call people retards to my liking
Lookout we got a badass over here.
>>52655059
This is actually a valid concern for people who use 144Hz monitors.
For those who don't know. NVIDIA cards don't downclock even at idle when using high refresh rate monitors.
>>52655125
nvidia invites retardation since that is their fanbase
>>52653835
Linux drivers may also be a small part. Nvidias actually work
>>52655157
I like AMD cards over Nvidia, but I believe AMD also keeps their memory clock maxed while using 144Hz, that's not exclusive to Nvidia, but don't quote me on that, I'm not too sure and I don't own one of those monitors myself.
>>52655184
why the fuck would you use linux and then go use nvidia drivers?
>>52655149
Have you read the thread ?
It's just memes after memes.
With one guy writing novel full of non sense and acting full reddit by quotingj every posts and stating which are his.
Stfu and have a bit of self-awareness please.
>>52655195
Interesting to note. Guess it's not a NVIDIA-only issue then...
Not like I give a shit, 4k is where it's at.
>>52655195
No, this is an old known issue that was outlined by pcperspective while testing the newest swift again.
Here is full story: http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/Testing-GPU-Power-Draw-Increased-Refresh-Rates-using-ASUS-PG279Q
>>52655208
Calm down your autism is showing.
Most of the games i play are optmized for Nvidia, so it makes no sense to me to buy AMD.
Also
>muh drivers
>>52655208
>calling other people out on memes
le ebin reddit le meme.
Jesus. Have some self-awareness.
>>52655311
>are optmized for Nvidia
You mean, less gimped for Nvidia
>>52655354
Same thing for me m8
>muh aftermarkets coolen
They slap the same ones on both brands,
Easier to keep the temps on a colder one. Means less noise on a colder one.
I fucking hate the shit Njewdia consistenly pulls but cum on.
Following that logic we all may just as well let them make cards reaching 200C because i can attach a leaf blower to my case and play on headphones.
>>52655382
Willingly supporting anti-consumer shit is actually pretty stupid m8.
You know that the "optimized for Nvidia" sticker on it, just means that comes next generation, it won't be "optimized" for your card anymore, right? You gotta keep supporting them, you know, so they want you to buy a new card every generation. Are you ready for that?
>>52655402
No they don't. But since you're the one claiming they do, go ahead and source that, or at least prove it.
MSI is pretty good on both ends, no way they would be able to get their temperatures close to Nvidia cards if they just slapped the same cooler on the AMD card. They have to make slight changes to coolers for them to even fit properly on the card.
Source your shit.
970 > EVERYTHING ELSE
HAHA CRY NON 970 KEKS HAHA YOU ALL SUCK
970 MASTER RACE
>>52655208
>Stfu
>>52655196
Because the OSS drivers are horrible, for both companies
>>52655526
Damn, baiting tier went down quickly here.
>>52655580
HAHA BET UR A LITTLE 950 BABY HAHA GO CRY TO MOMMY BABY HAHAHA
>>52655435
So according to you i should join a moral fight against an evil company so in a "possible" utopic future vdya may run equal on all cards?
Nah m8, i just want the best performance for what im playing right now.
Its fucking video games, not politics or some other ground-breaking cause.
>>52655574
then stop using linux
>>52655614
It's got nothing to do with a moral fight. Your actions will end up biting you in the ass though. Because while Nvidia has a history of gimping their older cards, AMD doesn't. AMD cards do only marginally worse than Nvidia in GameWorks games, to the point where it's irrelevant or you just tone it down a notch and barely notice the difference.
On the other hand, older Nvidia cards on "Nvidia optimized games" completely shit the bed and are considerably worse than their older AMD counterparts.
Case in point, Project CARS, which is one of the most obvious examples.
>>52655627
And use what instead Windows? Please no
Apple: no thank you, I don't have crippling autism and/or brain damage
Bsd/wtf os nobody has Hurd of: I want to actually use my os for things
