>Requesting purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM
>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones
>Previous thread:
>>52599124
HD 800 measured using my measurement rig 2.0 with artificial ears and some ear-canal volume. Getting consistent results, too. I noticed that the insertion depth of the measurement mic in the ear canal has a relatively large impact on the response. I'm not sure about the large dips present in the high frequencies. Some of them went away with different insertion depth/adjustment of the headphone on the coupler but some persisted.
Here's a REW measurement data file for analysis if someone is interested:
https://a.uguu.se/filsds_HD800LR.mdat
>>52619375
k.
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>>52619319
How are those bose? I figured the headphones are shit but are their in ears good?
>>52619409
I love them, usually only use them for sport.
Very comfy and they sit ultra thight, I can do sprints with them without them popping out.
Sound is fine, bass could actually be higher which is funny considering they are bose and they are a lil bit too quiet on my mp3 player but still loud enough.
People usually shit on bose and for a good reason but I still believe those inears are fine.
>>52619488
I think for any iem that will be used on the go is required to have a good bass response, specially in noisy environments. That soft rubber looks comfy, is it attached to the ear tip?
>>52619537
the whole rubber part is removable.
I need to upgrade form my ath-m50, but I can only spend 120 dollars on it. Preferably something with open ear.
What do I buy, and how do I get it cheap enough?
>>52619665
>upgrade
It depends on what you are looking for. What sounds sig are you looking for? Many of the open backs in that price range are not going to have the bloated bass the ATH-M50s have. If you are accustomed to the V shaped response of the M50s a flat response might be disappointing.
>>52619375
What does it look like now? Where is the microphone now relative to the entrance?
>I noticed that the insertion depth of the measurement mic in the ear canal has a relatively large impact on the response
Canal resonance is a huge part of the normal ear's gain response.
>Some of them went away with different insertion depth/adjustment of the headphone on the coupler but some persisted.
Some of those are natural properties of the ear. Pinna/concha has natural cancellation effect in high frequency.
>>52619043
reminder:
Linkin Park are colossal f/a/ggots
and that's ok
>>52619043
>Coming from m50
>I like closed hp
>I like the bass of the m50
>I listen to everything, from ambient to dubstep to vacals only
I'm currently floating between m50x and anc9 (because dat noise cancelling is sexy tbhfam).
Any other suggestion that I might have overlooked?
Also, I have big ears and the m50 are barely big enough
I just measured my dell laptop's output impedance on the headphone jack. 60 ohms.
>>52619984
Obligatory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H4l9RpkwM
>240p
Linkin Park pls.
>>52619988
What makes you like the IOSYS punk covers over the originals? I listened to a few and they felt mostly unnecessary.
Then again it's nowhere near that one Puncolle cover album.
>Budget
$300 maximum
>Location
USA
>Source
Fiio X1
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I'd like them to be comfortable, obviously.
>Preferred tonal balance
Darker, as I'm a little sensitive to sibilance
>Preferred music
Synthwave/Nu-disco, Electro-house, Dio-style heavy metal
>Past headphones
ATH-M50
>>52620172
didn't you ask yesterday too?
>>52620227
Yes, is that frowned upon in these threads?
I don't get many replies.
>>52620249
no was just making sure, it allows you to get more replies
if it wasn't you I'd point the guy to your post yesterday
>>52620012
Give it the D. Divider, that is.
>>52620249
>>52620172
And your thoughts on m50?
>>52620107
Tbh the originals are kinda screetchy to me.
And I like punk so its a good mix.
>>52619375
Just for reference, here is the new measurement using the external ears vs the old one with essentially a flat plate with a flush mounted mic. Ear resonance is quite massive.
I still don't get where that really uneven and inconsistent upper midrange came from in the plate measurements.
>>52619918
Mic is about 1.5 to 2cm down in the canal which is about as far as I can get it using these ears.
A small gallery of how it looks like:
http://picsurge.com/zkg7YN
>>52620012
What did you use? A standard multimeter and a resistor? That's a pretty normal Zout honestly and a rather poor one for driving headphones.
Dudduruu!
Which player are you using for your music /hpg/?
Currently I'm using AIMP3, but I'm kind of bored of it and I want something different and pretty so I could sit and reflect on my life decisions.
Any suggestions?
>>52620012
What laptop model are you using?
I have an XPS M1330, and I've had the impression it's not driving my HD 558 properly.
>>52620522
where you going to get the headphones to do large number of measurements?
you work in a store or some shit?
>>52620668
I own them but I could grab some stuff from friends and even work to measure. Mostly just terrible stuff though. I also know a few salesmen in a nearby store who sell Hi-Fi. I might be able to persuade them to give me some pairs to loan even if just for an hour or two to make measurements. The M50X was not mine anymore. I really didn't enjoy it and sold it to a buddy who seems to enjoy it loads.
>>52620522
>Ear resonance is quite massive.
It's normally quite huge, but maybe your canal is slightly short?
>Frequency = Speed of sound / (tube length*4)
>343m/s / (4*.02 m) ~ 4300 Hz
Quarter wave resonator, hence the 4, and it also has peaks at odd number multiples.
Canal frequency is around 2-7-3.0 kHz. Although the graph doesn't look that far off from those expensive dummy heads otherwise.
Can you measure the HD 650 and HE-500, I might like more data.
>>52621046
>maybe your canal is slightly short?
Likely is. I'll have to figure out a way to mount the mic with good seal further away from the ear canal entrance.
I'll measure the HD 650 and HE-500 next.
I'd like to do a diffuse field compensation for these graphs but can't seem to find a way to do it in REW. Any ideas?
>>52619984
don't you mean /m/
>>52620357
>And your thoughts on m5
They were slightly too bright for me; the highs felt too harsh.
My ears are a bit fucked, so you can't place any real stock in my opinions.
I need new headphones, any recommendations?
>Budget
Around 50€
>Location
EU
>Preferred type of headphone
see past headphones
>Open or closed
closed or semi
>Comfort level
preferrably high, I will use them multiple hours a day
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>Preferred music
metal,orchestral occasional house and the kind
>Past headphones
Superlux HD-681 served me well for 2 years but due to abuse cord broke today.
I would like something similiar but same size cup is a must because dumbo-tier ears
>>52621396
HD668b with a pad change, Samson SR850 (semi-open)/SR950 (closed)
Takstar Hi2050, maybe add HM5 pads in the future or something
>Budget
$200 CAD
>Location
Canuckistan
>Source
FIIO X1
>Preferred type of headphone
Over the ear (I.e. pads touch your head not your ears)
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
High preferred
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm and bassy side of neutral
>Preferred music
Metal (symphonic, gothic, doom, prog, industrial), darkwave, new wave, some IDM and electronic.
>Past headphones
Virtually all IEMs for portable use. Currently enjoying Westone W20s for that application.
>>52620606
a dell studio 14z. it's pretty old.
>>52617752
Bump
>>52621798
Meizu HD50
>>52621564
HD 558 seems to fit your preferences perfectly.
>>52621820
Looks good except the first google result says they're "on ear" and I'm looking for over. Less importantly, I'm nervous about the small hinges (they're full metal though so idk).
Is Stax electrostats snake oil or are they really good? What dynamic headphones are comparable to their lower end models?
>>52621990
Just Ctrl f'd the xiaomitoday review and that says over ear. I'll keep reading about these.
>>52621097
Text file loaded into REW house curve, then plot EQ. That's what I did here.
Still haven't figured out how to run two channels at once.
Need on-ear portable headphones for around 100$. No specific genre, will use with ipod. Was looking at akg y50, are they fine?
So, /g/
I am in the market for something I can use with both my PS4 and my PC, ideally something not a pain in the dick to change between. Considering I would like to use it with PS4, built-in microphone is a must, bonus if that mic works with PC as well. Does such a thing exist, and is it below $200?
inb4 >headsets
>>52622166
HE-500 and HD 650 here.
https://a.uguu.se/mxrjfj_HD650HE500.mdat
There is a clear correlation between the differences in channel specific measurements here. I just couldn't get them to match properly. I took roughly ten measurements a channel per headphone. It's hard to judge channel imbalance with this kind of a difference between channels most likely caused by measurement gear.
>>52622382
I realized I had not quite disabled all the shelf filters that were on by default.
Still fighting through REW's interface.
Where are the AKG shitters?
do people like stax here?
>>52622310
i want to know this too anyone have an answer?
>>52622310
>>52622532
The PS4 has a 4-pole 3.5mm jack, right?
If so, HyperX Cloud and shut the fuck up, it comes with a dual 3.5mm to single 4-pole adapter.
The Cloud II has a 4-pole jack connector as standard instead of dual 3.5mm, but it's $30 more expensive and comes with a shitty USB sound card for your PC.
I'd say grab the Cloud I and spend the extra $30 on HM5 pads instead for maximum comfy.
>>52622531
some stacks are shit, some fine. i could use an ed 1 and lambda pro.
>>52622595
You're a saint, anon.
>>52622960
No prob. I'm using their open-back cousins and I'm very pleased with them.
>>52623009
Now if only they were wireless :^)
>>52623043
There's probably some bluetooth adapter thing out there. Wireless tends to fuck with sound quality though, so I'll stick to using the 2m extension cable.
My ATH-M20X broke after less than 1 year of light home use (well, didn't really completely break: the stupid fucking cable snapped, which is amazing since I pretty much never touched it. Sending them back to amazon, with money back.)
So, I need a new set.
>Budget
50-80€. Maybe 100€ if its REALLY worth it.
>Location
Rome, Italy. I want it to be on Amazon.
>Source
Asus Xonar Phoebus audio card in my PC.
>Preferred type of headphone
full size yo
>Open or closed
Never tried open. I guess I'm willing to try, but preferably closed as I'd like gaming at night with the door of my room open without disturbing other people at home.
>Comfort level
Might be used to game for extended periods of time, so comfort is a must.
>Preferred tonal balance
I dunno. Not bass heavy, I'm no audiophile but I like listening to stuff without the bass taking over and murdering everything.
>Preferred music
A lot of electronic music, even more ambient-ish stuff like Phaeleh
>Past headphones
ATH-M20X and not much else. I liked the way those sounded. But the design was shite, with those terrible exposed cables.
unrelated bonus: if you can stick to the max 80€ price range, suggest a good mic I can clip on.
>>52623210
Pro 80, or their headset version, HyperX Cloud. Will run you about €70-80. Add HM5 pads (€20) for additional comfy, stock pads aren't bad though.
>that feel when K7xx master race
>>52622382
Just one channel for now, HE-500 left. I should work on the DF curve a bit.
>with this kind of a difference between channels most likely caused by measurement gear.
Possibly the ears?
Also, thanks for the measurement fun. Why did you decide to make a measurement jig anyway?
I just bought one of these new for $50. How badly did I fuck up?
HF-5 bros ww@?
AKG just refreshed their low end headphone lineup, about time since the low end AKGs (AKG K99 Perception) were total shit
>>52623934
still made by chinks
>>52623934
hopefully its better than the K99 but the K99 was shit so that shouldnt be to hard, but i kind of knew AKG would base the designs of their future headphones on the K550 and K553 but i thought they were going to refresh the K702 first
>tfw K550 - K92 style with K702 sound
>>52623972
so is everything else fag
>>52620249
i told you, nad viso hp50. i dont think you understand.. this isnt an opinion. it is perfect for you, maybe except aesthetics of course
>>52624067
>Viso HP50 design
What did they had in mind? Seriously!
>>52624085
yeah, it looks pretty silly. but im not kidding when i say theyre extraordinary headphones in almost all regards. theyre even just a tad dark like you want. and, in spite of their looks, ive never heard any comfort complaints. comfort always seems to be very hit and miss though, there will always be someone that will find even the most comfy for me as absolute shit for them. so i dont pay too much attention to comfort reviews unless theres a metric fuckton of them
guys, does the hd558 have a proprietary connector of some kind or will any 3.5mm fit?
>>52624452
dont bother the hd 558 is shit
>>52621798
Found the headphones I could only provide a link for, looks like the model is from "kotion", a Chinese brand.
Any tips on not getting downgraded counterfeits from amazon sellers? No US sellers have that brand name (or like I already stated , any name) listed.
>>52623379
>Possibly the ears?
Possibly those yes. Although the LF difference puzzles me. It's similar on both headphones yet ears shouldn't really have an effect on it as far as I know. Not like that at least. It resembles a leakage problem the most but then again with the amount of different positions I tried there should've been at least one measurement which didn't have significant leak.
>Also, thanks for the measurement fun. Why did you decide to make a measurement jig anyway?
Np. I was just curious. I wanted to measure my headphones as I've been staring at graphs for a good two years now without any personal experience. I also wanted that mic for room response correction for my loudspeakers.
>>52624680
I forgot to mention I'm definitely not buying these (at least from amazon); theres 3 sellers, all but one has mixed reviews on the phones the last being 7/7 5 star ratings.
Just want to know what warning signs to look for.
K702 dude from the other day here, the one that had the question about whether amping the K702 would make the sound more balanced.
It definitely sounds better on my ears, way better. Treble isn't as harsh and my ears definitely don't ring at all afterwards. Really pleased with the sound.
>>52621910
How do the HD 598 compare to the HD 558? I've read that they have both more and less bass and more and less highs, which is the kind of subjective nonsense that makes me start to grit my teeth.
>>52624627
Why? Are there any comparatively priced open, over the ear headphones that are on the warm and bassy side of neutral?
Googling around turned up a bunch of V shaped and treble forward alternatives, which would not be to my taste.
>>52625081
They are exactly the same save for a little piece of foam on the back of the 558's driver, the headband padding and the color scheme.
>>52625081
they are both shit
>>52624452
It has a 2.5mm connector to the headphone itself and it goes to 1/4in, but comes with a 3.5mm adapter. Not ideal in my opinion, but it works.
>>52625081
The 558 is great for its price and I can definitely recommend it. From what I've heard, the 598 has the same driver and is basically the same headphone but with a better build quality and different color. The 558 is solid and very comfortable though. Don't forget to do the foam mod on it though, gives it a more airy, open sound
>>52624834
The subbass/infrasound looks about right here. Left channel not so much, and not the HD650. Velour or leather?
>there should've been at least one measurement which didn't have significant leak.
Might as well clamp down the cup to the fixture. How porous is the foam you're using around the ear now?
Now what curve to use, ISO 11904 or that other DF curve from the other Hammershoi study?
>>52623393
i'd say it's fuck-up somewhere around 50$.
Is it fine if I plug DAC/AMP to an AMP like O2?
Is an e10k enough to power a 250ohm DT880?
Motherfucker
Are electrostatic headphones going to make my AKG weebshit cans obsolete?
I just oreder a pair of K7xx senpaitachi i need to know
Should I have Dolby Headphone on or off for movies? I only turn it on for games; I've got a Xonar DG.
> Lose hearing on my left ear
> Go to a doctor
> Wax literally covering my entire ear canal
> Can't even see my eardrum from the wax
> Get it cleaned
> My headphones now sound like shit
what can I do guys?
>>52625766
Give your ear 2 weeks to go back to normal, if they still sound like shit go get headphones that aren't shit
>>52625766
being thinking of going to the doctor to check my hearing as well, how does he examinate it?
also, what headphones do you own?
>>52625864
Used a camera on a stick to check inside my ear canal. Once she realized my entire eardrum was protected by a wall of wax she attempted to get it out with a thin metal stick. When that didn't work she used some sort of spray to soften it up and a thin pipe connected to a vacuum to suck it up. If your ears are really fucked up they use a hose to spray water and clean it up. Apparently that hurts like a bitch so you better hope it works before that.
Hurt a bit and my head felt dizzy most of the day but I can hear much better now.
I'd recommend getting checked even if you're not experiencing any problems as wax builds up naturally and blocks your eardrums.
Don't wait until you go deaf like I did.
Got a pair of K550's
>>52625945
>wax builds up naturally and blocks your eardrums
It actually never does this you just have shit genetics.
>>52626009
> Tripfag
> Accusing anyone of having shit genetics
drink bleach onegai shimazu
>>52625864
They look into your canal with a special ear-magnifying glass thing. If they can, they will clean it out with a curette which is a long metal rod with a loop on the end to grab the wax. If that isn't sufficient, they will load up a plunger with warm water and jet it into your ear, which is oddly pleasurable. Overall, it's a painless process and takes under 30 minutes.
How can I EQ my 598s to sound less harsh? After half a hour or so of listening they pretty much drive me deaf even on low volume
>>52626041
eq down 9-10k about 3-5db
its the only part of the treble thats "too high" on the 598
>>52619988
Been looking into those headphones for a while. What should I expect were I to drop the cash? How do you find them?
>>52626075
>any part of the treble on the 598
>too high
the treble is rolled off as fuck what are you on about
>>52625864
Just get an ear syringe. Put some warm water or first-aid kit grade hydrogen pyroxide in there. Let it sit and suction it out.
>>52625945
Glad that your hearing is fine, Anon.
That's not a bad headphone, maybe it's just you getting used to your good hearing again.
>>52625945
>>52626032
Cool, doesn't sound too complicated, i do feel i sometimes have trouble listening to whispers and lower sounds, it's the first step of hearing loss iirc, but hopefully it's just some acumulated wax, anyway, gonna make an appointment tomorrow. Thanks for the answers.
>>52626030
You literally have to be born deformed, premature or carry a genetic mutation for this to occur. Normal people never need to clean their ear canal the wax travels out by itself.
>>52626193
It's called anatomical variants, look it up
>>52626186
> first steps of hearing loss
How old are you?
>>52626193
Why haven't you killed yourself yet
I know they're kind of a mem brand but I got a pair of Hesh II's (skullcandy) for christmas.
Like em a lot better than my Sony pair I got the year before.
>>52626169
well i put it in quotes, but you can easily see a peak at 9-10k, as i said. if hes actually hearing a harshness, theres no way it would be anywhere then there, looking at the measurements.
>>52626224
As long as you like them that's fine, just know that when they break in 6-7 months (they will) you can get better sound for cheaper.
>>52626211
Its called your mom was eating junk food and doing drugs so you were born with fucked up ears and ankles.
>>52626193
>You literally have to be born deformed, premature or carry a genetic mutation for this
>tripfag describes why he's a tripfag
as if it wasn't bad enough already that you're tripfagging, you pretend to know japanese like a really, really sad autist.
>>52626273
Guess you really did fail highschool biology
>>52626273
> All this projecting
It's clear now why you tripfag
How big is your forehead m8?
>>52626218
25, i've being noticing or a few months, there's also the possibility that it was after being forced to listen to two loud songs during a concert, heard ringing for two days after that, got better afterwards, now i don't know if it's some sort of permanent trauma or something else like wax.
>Budget
$80
>Location
NYC
>Source
HTC M8,Mac desktop.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
wearing this shit for most of my day
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral
>Preferred music
EDM,Mostly trap and hardstyle.But everything under the banner.
>Past headphones
Sony MDR-XB500
Honestly i bought my MDR 2 years ago for $80 shit was a deal from what everyone was telling me.Sadly they broke down 2 months ago.
>>52626395
Every time you are exposed to loud noise cilia die off and never grow back, shits permanent. They also die off naturally as you age.
>>52626563
>Preferred tonal balance: Neutral
>Preferred music: EDM
>has headphones marketed as "Extra Bass"
Are you sure you want neutral?
>>52626606
That's what i'm worried about, although no one seemed to be bothered by how loud it was (or badly played if that matter)... anyway, of to the doc i go, maybe i'll check my hearing range as well.
so whats the new clip+?
i gave mine to a friend a while ago and the clip zip is kind of shitty
>>52626669
Those concerts where they crank the shit up to earbleed level and you can't hear each other shouting are for dipshits anyway. Anyone with half a brain is only there to fuck teenagers and will wear earplugs.
>>52626704
>tripfag tries to act like he's socially capable
kill yourself
>>52626563
You should probably get your XB fixed. Nothing in the 80$ range will come even close to that, and for EDM you don't fucking want neutral sound.
Not sure about the XB500 in particular but pretty much any headphone above 100$ from a respectable brand is made to be fixable. They're not disposable headphones.
>>52626718
>for edm you dont want a neutral sound
hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
>>52626717
>earbleed concerts
>socially capable
Nobody goes to those to enjoy music, its a bunch of autists pretending to have taste in music while they try and fuck eachother. The music is so fucking loud that the most socializing you will get is having your ass randomly grabbed.
>>52626766
stay in your room, virgin.
>>52626666
Sorry satan im not a audiophile.I'll read more into headphones so i wont be as retarded next time around.
But in all honesty really don't focus on all the heavy stuff as much,I really phase every once in a while.
>>52626718
Yeah,I was going to look into that.
A friend had told me they discontinued my model so i was afraid they wouldn't fix it or something but honestly it doesn't hurt to try and look into it.
>>52620543
AIMP4
poorfag reporting in
>>52626793
not either of those guys but the 7506 is probably what you want to get
Thinking about getting the Xiaomi Piston 2 later. anything better than them for under $50?
>>52626793
how did you liked the XB? That's a pretty bassy headphone, if it works well for you something neutral might not be your cup of tea, unless you happen to find it away too bassy for some genres or something like that.
Using AKG k612 with my HTC One M8 (Not the greatest setup in the world), but I notice even with my little fiio amp some songs just are not very loud even on max volume. Is this something to do with the DAC in my phone? Are there better phones to play music with out there?
>>52627096
the m8 actually has one of the better dacs on the market, but no, it would be your amp. which one is it specifically? the k612 is not the easiest to drive
>>52627024
It was honestly perfect IMO,I really did get it as a steal for $80 at the store i went to,Because a few of my friends wanted to get one for themselves but everywhere they looked it was over $200,Then got discontinued.
I guess really have to look into getting it fix.I was just wonder/hoping there would be something around the price range that i had previously bought my headphones with possibly better specs(since i really dont know much about headphones).And i didn't want to feel like i was cheated or anything.
>>52627096
HTC along with Samsung make some of the best DACs on Android phones. Apple DACs are fine too.
If you're having troubles driving your headphones on an M8 along with an amp either something is broken in that setup or you're attempting to reach ear raping levels.
>Budget
Preferentially below ¥5000, could be as high as ¥10000.
>Location
Japan
amazon.co.jp
>Source
Nexus 6P
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Comfortable, I guess...
>Preferred music
Lots of podcasts/audiobooks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pfLbrbb2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLUX0y4EptA
I'm not sure if this is the kind of thing the you look down upon, but I also would like if it could be waterproof(swimming/shower), and bluetooth/cordless.
MDR V6 here. Can anyone explain why these sound better with the pads off? Its uncomfortable as fuck, but the sound is much better.
>>52627327
inb4 weeaboo responds with week one tier japanese
>>52627349
PERKELE
Wait, no, that's wrong...
>>52627349
Ow, please no, I don't know any japanese at all.
I just happen to be living on Japan for some months, company bussiness...
>>52627407
i'm talking about some of the sad faggots on here who jump at the chance to show off their shitty japanese when they see someone is in japan on a form.
>>52619319
why is Rei camping in the woods?
morning m8s
>>52627120
>>52627166
I've been using the fiio e6. It definitely increases the volume, but not by much. It might also be a combination of the amp and my expectations for LOUDNESS getting in the way
>>52627327
Looks like bluetooth is still bad for audio unfortunately. In order to send the signal over the allotted bandwidth/frequency it needs to compress the audio.
For swimming in particular it may not be a big deal with all the background noise you'll have but then you have to worry about signal loss if you're doing laps or something.
If you really want a waterproof Bluetooth pair you should start from there because you may not have much to choose from.
>>52627541
Humm... yeah, I've been searching, but what I can find usually doesn't have decent reviews or it is as ugly as it can be.
any recommended headset to pair with an antlion modmic? i like open ear headphones and prefer comfort, less than $50 would be ideal.
Any DAC and Amp recommendations for HD650s? I also own some 702s.
>>52626146
What you should expect is maximum comfyness because thats what youre getting
Just gotta wait two days and I'll own my first pair of veilheisers
>>52627980
jesus dude you fucked up badly
>>52628014
Well I was looking for a pair of open backs for 150 and after all the reviews I looked at and the frequency responses and whatnot it looks like it fits the bill
I guess if I don't like it I'll just return it.
>>52627866
fiio e10k
>>52628035
The AKG K612 would have been far better for the same price, the hd 598 is overpriced and unjustifiable
>>52628035
akg k612 would be better, the hd558 is the same thing also, for less money
>>52628071
>>52628065
I can still cancel the order
Just made if 5 minutes ago
You guys sure? This is my first pair of audiophile headphoens
>>52628084
why wouldnt you ask us first? yes were fucking sure
>>52628103
Fuck, it's 120Ω though.
I'm gonna need an amp for sure.
Though I think my home receiver will cut it.
>>52628121
then just get the hd558
but id be worried about the output impedance on that receiver coloring your audio
>>52628121
>high impedance = needs an amp
no, k612 need an amp for an entirely different reason.
>>52627327
And if I went without the waterproof/bluetooth. What would you guys suggest?
I think I would just go as high as ¥5000(~$50) tough.
>>52628137
What then if not the impedance?
>>52628174
etymotic mk5
>>52628179
sensitivity
>>52628179
voltage sensitivity? in what world does less current needed = needs an amp to drive it
>>52628198
>etymotic mk5
Not really trying to offend, I just don't know anything about headphones, but why does it look like a alien-gun?
Also the cables seem a bit "flimsy", don't they? I've lost a couple of earphones because of this on the past.
>>52620543
Rhythmbox because I'm boring.
>>52628222
>>52628210
Well, what makes my receiver a shitty amp as opposed to some 60 dollar fiio one?
>>52628270
output impedance and lack of driver control
>>52628254
only a child would take offense to this
those are the ones you want to get. dont ask me why their research led them to ear dildo shapes, because i dont know. you could get soundmagic e10 to save some money, but they are vshaped, so they wont sound as good for an audio book
>>52628047
Any reason why I should get it over what else is on the market?
>>52628319
weve done all the reasoning for you, you should just accept the rec. otherwise, we would just be teaching you everything as if this were an electronics and their affects on analog audio signals and acoustics class. unless thats what you want?
>>52628319
I'm gonna get the SMSL SD793-II
>>52628353
actually shit nevermind my mobo doesn't have toslink
FUUCK
Now I have to decide between that 100 dollar fiio or the shitty mobile ones
>>52627327
http://www.amazon.co.jp/%E3%83%A9%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%A6%E3%82%B9-%E3%83%80%E3%82%A4%E3%83%8A%E3%83%9F%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF%E5%AF%86%E9%96%89%E5%9E%8B%E3%82%AB%E3%83%8A%E3%83%AB%E3%82%A4%E3%83%A4%E3%83%9B%E3%83%B3-radius-HP-NEF21-HP-NEF21R/dp/B00HWKO3T0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1453791591&sr=8-1&keywords=radius+HP-nef21
Jesus christ, Why its so hard to get proper link from amazon JP?
>>52628401
it's not, you're just retarded.
http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B00HWKO3T0/
>>52628410
Pardon me anon. I'm not that often fiddling with amazon as I always use local retailer for shopping.
>>52628423
it's unicode.
>>52628377
Just wait until the E10k drops to its normal price near $75.
>>52628457
>wait
What's a "wait"? Is that some kind of food?
>>52626682
Fiio M3, or for more monies, the X1.
Or buying another Clip+
>>52620543
AIMP3 aswell
Is it silly to use studio monitoring headphones for gayming?
Just got my Senfer UE.
Sound is amazing for the price.
>>52629222
the tags marketers add to shit doesnt matter
>>52629222
You want open headphones for gaming in general.
AKG is your best bet for that. I'd recommend the K702.
>>52619986
don't get noise cancelling
>>52629254
Holy shit i just ordered those memes yesterday, how are they compared to more expensive iems?
>>52629362
Looks good but it's a bit too expensive for me. I've been using and loving the Superlux HD668B (king of poorfag) for quite some time and now looking to upgrade. If what you're suggesting is really great hell I might actually do it. Fuck everything.
>>52629418
Cheaper options, the ATHAD500X get recommended a lot. No experience though.
>>52625766
Atleast you didnt find a pricetag in your ears
>>52629254
All these cheap chink iems are impressive. I'm going to purchase a few KZ models off amazon, i have about a 75 dollar limit so would you guys suggest some new/relatively obscure iems to test out?
>>52629418
681 is better
>>52629472
auglamor-R8.
>>52622513
>>52623315
>>52624009
Hello my friends!
>>52623934
They look really nice imo. Let's hope the look will match the sound! As long as K550 stays in production, I think that there's no need to get any other closed AKG.
> tfw we'll probably never see a successor of the K1000
>>52625063
Hello there! I remember you from some threads ago. As I told you then, the K702 really benefits from a little bit of amplification. I'm glad to know that thye sound better and more balanced now.
>>52626146
Amazon has a good deal on them right about now. Just bought myself ones.
I should be sleeping instead of bothering with this
>>52629254
When you don't want full cans but still need to look turbo autistic in public
>>52629472
Try this thing for me anon: http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2015-New-SK-DIY-Go-Pro-K3003-Ring-Iron-Dural-Unit-Earphones-Fever-HIFI-In-ear/519064_32511074373.html
>>52629627
If it was cheaper i would, i'm trying to limit myself to 75 dollars to get a bunch of cheap iems not just a single one. It's for comparison purposes.
>>52629513
Sounds good! still leaves me enough space to get a few pairs of cheap iems.
Is it worth getting an amp for my HD600s? Powering them via a Xonar DGX right now.
>>52629686
>>52629472
I know what you guys are going to say but zeos sang high praises about the TTPOD T1, which is around 25$
could you pick em up and post a review?
I would want to try these, but it's Chinese spring holidays so you can't order them right now.
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/2015-New-Easy-UE-3-Version-Custom-Made-Armature-and-Dynamic-Around-Ear-Earphone-IEMs-Hybid/519064_32601599310.html
what are some good IEMs with relatively balanced sound and great clarity? $150 or something. I currently have Beyerdynamic DX 120 ie
About to buy a MDR 7506. Someone stop me.
>>52630014
did you actually fill out the form and get recd that? if so, youre fine
Someone said K702's get better with time?
can someone confirm/clarify?
>>52629710
there seems to be a lot of copies, it's what happens with a lot of these Chinese iems. They're all essentially Sennheiser ie800 clones but even the clones get cloned just like the xiaomi pistons. I'm trying to order them all from this store http://www.aliexpress.com/store/519064?spm=2114.12010108.0.49.UO6c6L and they don't seem to have ttpod's in stock. I might order them separately.
>>52630053
burn in is a meme, if thats what youre referring to
>>52630053
Jesus no.
>>52630014
do you want nobass & pretty high treble?
>>52630074
they have them on amazon but they seem to be resellers so might be fake
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TTPOD-T1-High-Fidelity-Quality-Dual-Dynamic-Professional-In-ear-Earphones-/121345906576?var=&hash=item61db4ef6c1
BigBargainOnline has them, I've purchased pistons 3 from him & they're legit
>>52630053
No headphone should have a change in sound quality over its usable lifespan.
>>52630053
yes
>>52630084
>>52630090
sennshills
>>52630053
No, they sound better during time because your ears get progressively accustomed to their sound signature (which is close to neutral).
>>52630240
>Budget
preferably under £100 (~$140)
>Location
LONDON
>Source
laptop/PC
>Preferred type of headphone
Open over ear (not too strict about this)
>Comfort level
high please
>Preferred tonal balance
more or less neutral but decent bass I guess
>Preferred music
weeb shit like 2hu remixes and anime music, gaming too
>Past headphones
a cheap comfy pair of Philips headphones that was like £20, nowadays using Xaomi Piston 2
>>52630443
hd558
>>52629362
No you really don't.
>>52628084
Just keep your order.
>>52630053
It doesn't. No headphone does unless you are talking about psychoacoustics and perception of the sound.
>>52630544
>No you really don't.
Can't wait to hear this explanation.
>>52630485
Is it worth paying £10 more for the hd598 or £15 more for k702?
>>52630558
What makes you think open headphones are so great for games? What is the benefit? Please don't say anything about "soundstage" giving you a competitive edge.
>>52630564
>Is it worth paying £10 more for the hd598
No. HD558 can be easily modded into a HD598 and HD558 may sound even better than HD598 out of the box.
> or £15 more for k702?
Yes, but you might need an amp to drive them.
>>52630568
Competitive sure. Large sound stage is better for immersion.
>>52630564
no
maybe
do you like treble?
If so, get the k612 or k702 if you think you can drive them
>>52630568
you know what the answer is
>>52630564
i would just get the 558
im the original guy btw
k612: needs an amp
k702: still needs an amp, high in treble
598: not worth the money. practically the same thing as the 558.
of course, the 558 is also colored badly by high output impedance sources, so you may end up wanting to get an amp anyway depending on how shit yours is. so pick your poison
>>52630635
> K702
> high in treble
K702 is slightly bright compared to really bright headphones. Still I agree with the rest you said.
>>52630668
but the 702 is still pretty bright compared to neutral. even the k612 is still too bright compared to neutral, but less bright than the 702.
dt880 > the sun > k702 > 400i > k612 > neutral > 558 > 650 > lcd-2 pre fazor
>Budget
300€ Flexible.
>Location
Portugal
>Source
PC first, DAC/AMP external later.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized, Prefer with mic attached, much better for gaming.
Also love the 5.1 from the Kave on movies.
>Open or closed
Either, But I hate leather touching my skin.
>Comfort level
Maximum comfort. Even if less sound quality.
>Preferred tonal balance
No Idea, its for gaming/movies. But I like bass, but too much is also too much.
>Preferred music
Nightcore like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyW2ajAVyfA
>Past headphones
Steelseries 5HV2
Gamescom 780
the first Roccat Kave 5.1
>>52630719
heh, friend please, mic attached = shit headphone. just get yourself an hd650 and pick up an O2 or magni 2 down the road
>>52630761
It's over his budget.
>>52630719
Open heapdhones usually have velour pads and they're better than closed headphones. Avoid headsets (headphones + mic) and buy separate headphones and mic. Since you're thinking about upgrading your setup with a DAC/amp in the future, I'd recommend to get a K612/K702 and get a V-moda boom pro or a Antlion Modmic.
>>52630761
Damn.. Too much money for me.
>>52630800
oh oops, for some reason my brain interpreted his money as the british pounds
>>52630800
if anon gets a k612 and a vmoda boom pro I swear to god
>>52630719
dt880
>>52630944
theres nothing wrong with those things
>>52630800
How would I get a V-moda boom pro on a k702?
>shitposting intensifies
>>52631197
Get your dirty hands off my waifu
>>52631083
k612 didn't have detachable cable. How did you apply the vmoda boom pro?
I'm about to buy some steelseries Siberia v2
Did I fuck up?
>>52631252
well the k702 is mini xlr, so thats not that easy either. i thought we were just throwing logic to the curb
>>52631291
not yet you didnt. dont do that, fill out the form
>>52631291
>about to
you didn't yet but you're close
if you ABSOLUTELY have to get headset, get hyperx cloud 1
if not, check OP for requesting purchasing advice
>>52631297
>Budget
Wanna spend like $80, flexible though by a lot though.
>Location
'murrica
>Source
Computer
>Preferred type of headphones
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy definitely
>Preferred tonal balance
As long as it doesn't sound like garbage. I don't know anything about music and stuff, so just as long as it sounds good.
>Preferred music
All types
>Past headphones
Garbage skullcandy and other cheap brands.
Thanks all
>>52631352
>As long as it doesn't sound like garbage. I don't know anything about music and stuff, so just as long as it sounds good.
this is really important though, do you like bass, do you like highs
if you don't like bass (which I doubt, as you buy gamer headsets and such)
Get an MDR 7506 or m40x
what's the absolute maximum you're willing to spend?
>>52631390
So I know what bass is, but what are highs?
Max would be like $200, but those have got to be like amazing. Like sex in my ears good.
>>52631418
highs are treble, you know, high pitched stuff
If you like bass, I'd definitely recommend dt770 pro 80 ohm
>>52629472
>>52629779
Not sure if you're still here but please try some of the iems in this thread
http://peace.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/av/1451593440/
>>52631348
I just bought the hyperx cloud literally a minute ago man. It's cheaper than headphones and I only play games anyway. Please tell me I did good.
>>52632047
well theyre the best headset you can get. but still theyre pretty shit
>>52632047
they're shit but they're the type of shit that has some pieces of candy in it
if you wanted to be a cheapfag, you could get a 30$ pair of headphones like HD681 and it'd be as good if not better
>>52632047
If you wanted a headphone just for gaming, you couldn't do better, but remember that it's still inferior to good stereo headphones.
Stax SR-207
Y/N
Why do people like to recommend Superlux hd681 but not hd668b?
>>52632346
why do people recommend the 558 and not the 598?
>>52632047
I was using the hyperx cloud after my dt 770 broke. It was okay. My brother just lent me his mdr7506, which I've never used before, and they sound pretty similar, maybe people who know better will disagree. The cloud is definitely heavier and less comfortable though.
>Budget
$200-$500
>Location
USA
>Source
PC.
>Preferred type of headphone
Over ear, want to try open for the first time (not playing games that much anymore, but heard open keeps your ears cooler than closed), Definitely want a detachable cable because that's how I fucked up my last pair
>Comfort level
MAX, willing to sacrifice for sound quality.
>tonal balance
Neutral I guess, with good bass but not necessarily dt series bass
>music
electronic music, ambient electronic music, rock
>past headphones
dt 770 were the most best ones I've used
I don't know how much I'd willing to spend right now, and I've been thinking about a lot of different models but I just can't commit to anything.
I was interested in the dt 880, but I want to try something a little more different than the 770 and with a detachable cable. Looked at the HD 598 and then read somewhere it's similar to the 558? but both might lack bass I'm looking for.
Then I started looking at some of hifiman's planar magnetic stuff like the HE-400 which supposedly has great bass and it's neutral, but they're kind of uncomfortable and heavy? Then there's a fidelio X2 on massdrop which is ending soon, don't know much about it though. Don't know what to do. Should I just get off my ass and go to music stores and listen to headphones?
TL;DR halp
>>52632635
HD650. If you want maximum comfy, Sony MDR-1A.
Also, get your ass off. Its always worth to audition the headphones compared just to see graph or listen to some recommendation.
>>52632604
But the hd681 is fucking ugly.
>>52632635
ma900, lightweight, big earcups and angled drivers (so you get more room for your ears in the back, if that's important).
Might be to much bass drop off for you.
http://en.goldenears.net/GR_Headphones/14492
>>52632712
>ugly
>waa waa muh looks
only time I'd care what it looks like is if it was a giant pink dildo that lay stretched over my head
K612 or M50X? Or is there something better around 150 bucks? I have a fiio e10k if that helps the choice.
Also my dad died last week and I'm dealing with it by buying a pair of headphones.
>Budget
300$
>Location
European Union (I travel with work a lot)
>Source
Laptop and Smartphone (Htc One M8 - which according to anandtech's tests has an ouput power of ~1.2 Vrms for all loads - "should be able to drive almost any set of headphones"
>Preferred type of headphone
Over-the-ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Don't care. I'd rather have build quality.
>Preferred music
Classical (orchestral, pipes and lots of strings - specially violin, choir - male voices), folk, some classic rock. Also intend to use it for watching movies.
>Past headphones
$20 Phillips IEMs
Looking for any good recommendations. I'm already torn between DT880, K702, HD558 and ATH AD700X/AD900X. I don't have the posibility to hunt for them in shops so I am really hoping you guys can help.
Also specify if I need an amp to drive them / recommend one. I'm open to something low effort an amp+dac combo like the e10k. I don't have the ear or the knowledge to bother with the expensive stuff. I just need a good pair of open headphones that I can drive from my laptop first (and at least to a listenable level from my smartphone).
